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Women's fashions

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    I think we have essentially frozen in time now.

    If you had a time machine in the year 2000 and went back to 1979, I think you would be instantly staggered by how dfferent everything looked. The hair, the clothes, the cars, it really would have been a different era.

    I think that, by and large, if you somehow travelled back in time to 2000, it really would not be as dramatic.

    Young lads didn't preen their hairstyles like they do now. Nor did they wear those ultra tight fitting trackies they currently wear, it was looser. Young lads going to bars and clubs were happy enough with a decent t shirt or a button up that cost 20 quid- no 18 year old boy these days goes out without Ralph Lauren, Lacoste etc. I actually have an old copy of The Slate magazine where a writer complains about the BT door staff questioning them for wearing a tracksuit- go into BT nowadays and every second buyer is wearing one, the working class are their main source of sales.

    Aside from all that though, for a 21 year period in time we have sort of frozen in time. Which I guess is the way it historically was- I can't imagine a man who lived in 1610 dresse dramatically different to one born n 1690.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    The 90s weren't all leggings and long baggy jumpers. The little black dress was popular amongst the indie set.
    Most likely with black tights.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    Seems the goal for young women today is to dress as slutty as possible.

    Several foreign women have mentioned to me that they consider Irish women to dress like prostitutes when they go out.

    A lot of French, German, Italian women in Ireland dress in a manner that broadcasts to the world how tight with money they are. Penneys/ Vincent De Paul bargain bucket from five years ago.


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    I do have a little snigger when I see men wearing no socks with ridiculous too tight jeans that only reach their ankles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I do have a little snigger when I see men wearing no socks with ridiculous too tight jeans that only reach their ankles.

    I'm fairly open to people wearing whatever the fcuk they want but that no socks look is horrible to me.
    The eyebrows on every woman under 30 is another one I just can't get my head around.
    Although, I think we've passed peak stupid eyebrows about a year ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    I'm fairly open to people wearing whatever the fcuk they want but that no socks look is horrible to me.
    The eyebrows on every woman under 30 is another one I just can't get my head around.
    Although, I think we've passed peak stupid eyebrows about a year ago.

    And the contouring! So that they all kind of look the same in the end. In my day (:D) we'd a labello Chapstick and some blue eyeshadow. The really exotic gals had an orange panstick and clear lash mascara.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    The fitness/ gym junkie craze that kicked off for young lads during the last recession really seems to have disappeared. It seems to be the thing now for young lads to be skinny as a rake, prpbably because it helps them fit into their ridiculously tight North Face/ EA grey trackies- until about 4 years ago they were all on some Geordie Shore inspired lifting craze.

    Also, 20 years ago nobody over the age of 11 wore runners with a see through panel on the heel (and these usually lit up :pac:). Now these bubble runners are the most expensive of the lot (and not worn by anyone over age 22).

    But generally, these are very subtle differences from say 1995 to 2021, compared to what a teenager was wearing in 1995 vs 1969. Different world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Antares35 wrote: »
    And the contouring! So that they all kind of look the same in the end. In my day (:D) we'd a labello Chapstick and some blue eyeshadow. The really exotic gals had an orange panstick and clear lash mascara.

    It was all about the eye liner with the girls I knew.


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anewme wrote: »
    No maybe YOU give it a rest.

    Sleazy creeps anonymous.

    Example below and it’s one of the milder examples ...the majority of posts have nothing to do with women’s ‘fashions’


    I think leggings are ghastly. What I reckon is really hot is a chick wearing a shirt thing that covers her hips and short shorts so as you can't tell if she's got anything on at all under the waist.

    Yeah, the very notion that a guy would find someone sexually attractive... The creep. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭SineadSpears


    Also, 20 years ago nobody over the age of 11 wore runners with a see through panel on the heel (and these usually lit up :pac:). Now these bubble runners are the most expensive of the lot (and not worn by anyone over age 22).

    .

    I'm well over 22 & I've a pair of Nike Vapormax :cool: Gorgeous runners they are, & the amount of times I've been asked where I got my ones.

    They aren't very comfortable though so I wouldn’t buy another pair. I think I paid 130 for mine. But that's the going rate for most decent trainers now so it is what it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭OscarMIlde


    I'm well over 22 & I've a pair of Nike Vapormax :cool: Gorgeous runners they are, & the amount of times I've been asked where I got my ones.

    They aren't very comfortable though so I wouldn’t buy another pair. I think I paid 130 for mine. But that's the going rate for most decent trainers now so it is what it is

    Ugh no. I hate those clunky runners. OG sambas all the way for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Yeah, the very notion that a guy would find someone sexually attractive... The creep. :rolleyes:

    Something very juvenile about a man going round on a constant mission in the hope that he might see a camel toe or a bra strap ( once it's only on a slim woman mind, no fat girls, they should wear a sackcloth so not to offend these salivating knicker searchers).

    And as for the comment that foreign women say Irish women dress like prostitutes....

    Creeping and ogling is sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Creeping and ogling are one thing, seeing and enjoying an attractive person with the goods on show is normal and healthy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Creeping and ogling are one thing, seeing and enjoying an attractive person with the goods on show is normal and healthy

    Yep and you can make your own decision as to which posts are which on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Fashionable or not, fat girls should wear sackcloth in public if the only other thing they have is yoga pants.

    As a woman who considers herself to be fairly fat, even the thought of wearing leggings or yoga pants without something covering my ass fills me with a kind of fear I can't really explain

    Anyone can wear what they like in my book btw, I don't judge others badly for it, but I envy people's body confidence in a big way sometimes!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭JasonStatham


    Man, the judgement in this thread. Seriously who gives a fcuk what you wear. Wear what you like and be happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    Man, the judgement in this thread. Seriously who gives a fcuk what you wear. Wear what you like and be happy.

    The existence of the judgement on this thread proves that people do give a fcuk what you wear, no?

    We get judged on our appearance every day, not always in a 'look down your nose' kind of way, but what we wear sends certain signals to the world.
    Not ideal, but it's reality imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Fashionable or not, fat girls should wear sackcloth in public if the only other thing they have is yoga pants.

    Who made you the fashion police?

    Why do you think you are qualified to tell anyone what to wear?

    People can lose weight, but you cant fix personal integrity, when its lacking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    lucalux wrote: »
    The existence of the judgement on this thread proves that people do give a fcuk what you wear, no?

    We get judged on our appearance every day, not always in a 'look down your nose' kind of way, but what we wear sends certain signals to the world.
    Not ideal, but it's reality imo

    The pandemic has made many people re evaluate what is important and what matters.

    The people here making judgements on what people wear and shoukld be allowed to wear according to their narrow minded stereotypes come across as pathetic.

    And no, not everyone is out to judge others daily, the people judging are usually the ones that have poor self esteem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    anewme wrote: »
    Something very juvenile about a man going round on a constant mission in the hope that he might see a camel toe or a bra strap ( once it's only on a slim woman mind, no fat girls, they should wear a sackcloth so not to offend these salivating knicker searchers).

    And as for the comment that foreign women say Irish women dress like prostitutes....

    Creeping and ogling is sad.
    anewme wrote: »
    Yep and you can make your own decision as to which posts are which on this thread.

    The problem here is you think every man that looks at a woman is a creep


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    anewme wrote: »
    The pandemic has made many people re evaluate what is important and what matters.

    The people here making judgements on what people wear and shoukld be allowed to wear according to their narrow minded stereotypes come across as pathetic.

    And no, not everyone is out to judge others daily, the people judging are usually the ones that have poor self esteem.

    I didn't say anything about approving the judgements of others, I responded to a poster saying "no one gives a fcuk what you wear" which imo, is not true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    The problem here is you think every man that looks at a woman is a creep

    No I think that people who go around looking for "hot chicks" camel toes or in the hope that they see a see through leggings are creepy.

    Dictating what people can and cant wear according to your own standards is also creepy.

    By the way, assuming you are qualified to tell others what they think is a bit presumptuous as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    lucalux wrote: »
    I didn't say anything about approving the judgements of others, I responded to a poster saying "no one gives a fcuk what you wear" which imo, is not true

    I didnt think you approved them at all.

    I'm with the other poster though.

    No one genuine gives a fck about what you wear.

    The rest dont matter and should not be given oxygen to impact your choices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    anewme wrote: »
    I didnt think you approved them at all.

    I'm with the other poster though.

    No one genuine gives a fck about what you wear.

    The rest dont matter and should not be given oxygen to impact your choices.

    My point remains the same. People judge things every day, one of the biggest ways we do that is on how we dress and present ourselves.

    Judgements are necessary to make choices, and to live basically. Fair enough people ought not to judge people solely on their appearance, but it happens sometimes.
    I know for a fact I've heard every member of my own family pass comments on what others were wearing, male and female.

    Have you never been in company with a person who commented on another's appearance?
    If you have, ok cool.
    Have you written off all those people as not worthy of oxygen, or as not being 'genuine'?

    You're making judgements yourself here on this thread, which is part and parcel of what we do, so maybe we just have a different view on what judgements mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭SineadSpears


    Love a set of leggings too :o

    I've to dress smart for work but on my own time it's leggings & runners thrown on :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭JeffreyEpspeen


    anewme wrote: »
    When you read back this thread, it is a bit creepy.hasn’t aged very well, even though it’s not that old.

    Yuk!

    I would consider borderline obese and morbidly obese Irish teenage girls and women's infatuation with wearing leggings and yoga pants that are WAY too tight for them more egregious and peculiar, but hey, that's just me. Nobody asks for them to literally have their genitalia and bare asshole with/without unhygienic thong stuffed up their (I'm presuming unbleached) butthole proudly on display even though they've never even looked at a gym in their entire lives and exist on a diet of copious amounts of takeaways and sweets.

    At least don't wear the leggings up to your nips/cover arse with a jacket or jumper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭JeffreyEpspeen


    And BTW girls/women are just as bad as men when it comes to sexual harassment. I'm not even that good looking and I've been leered at and groped. Can't imagine how bad it is for better looking guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    People make judgements about what others wear. However you can tell a lot about person by what kind of comments they make. Arse/tits/thongs/camel toe type comments usually imply lack of class and intelligence. Type of a man better to be avoided because they will never make it far in their job or command respect of anyone but few of their like minded pub buddies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭SineadSpears


    Creeping and ogling are one thing, seeing and enjoying an attractive person with the goods on show is normal and healthy

    Thats how I feel about men in grey tracksuit bottoms.

    I appreciate those men :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    And BTW girls/women are just as bad as men when it comes to sexual harassment. I'm not even that good looking and I've been leered at and groped. Can't imagine how bad it is for better looking guys.

    #metoo


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Salivating Knickers Searchers is a very evocative phrase, in fairness.

    And I could not agree more on the eyebrows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Thats how I feel about men in grey tracksuit bottoms.

    I appreciate those men :D
    You appreciate a bit of rough? Grey tracksuit bottoms are standard issue for teenage scrotes up and down the land


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Narrow minded stereotypes? If I think you're ugly, that's not a stereotype. If I think you're fat, you very likely are and it's still not a stereotype. And if I don't think you're attractive because you're a fat girl riding herself with her yoga pants while trying to keep everything tucked inside, that's just how attraction works and no amount of crying about it will ever change it.

    If you're truly shameless about going out in public dressed like a dumpy gym-dodging stereotype and waiting to be offended because some people think you look ugly and ridiculous dressed the way you chose to dress, that's your problem if you want it to be and not mine.

    People can wear whatever they want. It's a question of whether they should make the decision to wear things that make them a target of ridicule, or draw attention to the unflattering aspects of their body in a way that's pretty difficult to miss.

    So it's best to think again about cramming those yoga pants into your crotch and around your overfull arse if you haven't the figure to pull that off, unless you really don't care in which case nothing I say or think will bother you.

    But if you're one of those people who like to look well even with a bit more weight than you'd like to be carrying, rather than look like a spandex covered sack of potatoes, make a better clothing choice before leaving the house.

    And at bare minimum make sure you're not dividing yourself in combination with the hard to miss (often unfortunately) yoga pants if you don't want the attention. Boys will be boys and men will be men, and that's just how we are. We're wired that way and no amount of internet whinging will ever change that.

    Yoga pants on fat girls worn outside of the gym or a training session is just like putting lipstick on a pig. Some people might tell the pig it's a pretty little piggy, but to most others they're just going to see a pig looking for compliments. Especially pigs in yoga pants.

    Post says an awful lot about poster.

    Imagine referring to a person as a pig in Yoga pants.

    Nasty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    meeeeh wrote: »
    People make judgements about what others wear. However you can tell a lot about person by what kind of comments they make. Arse/tits/thongs/camel toe type comments usually imply lack of class and intelligence. Type of a man better to be avoided because they will never make it far in their job or command respect of anyone but few of their like minded pub buddies.

    Very naive to say that these comments only come from those of a lower class or intelligence. They come from all backgrounds. What's different now is the amount of hypersensitive ears that hear them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    meeeeh wrote: »
    People make judgements about what others wear. However you can tell a lot about person by what kind of comments they make. Arse/tits/thongs/camel toe type comments usually imply lack of class and intelligence. Type of a man better to be avoided because they will never make it far in their job or command respect of anyone but few of their like minded pub buddies.

    Not in my experience. You could hear those comments from all kinds of men.

    Makes no odds, whether someone's ahead in their career or a scrote, some people are just like that.

    Edit: I had missed the last posters comment, and have basically said the exact same thing, sorry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    lucalux wrote: »
    My point remains the same. People judge things every day, one of the biggest ways we do that is on how we dress and present ourselves.

    Judgements are necessary to make choices, and to live basically. Fair enough people ought not to judge people solely on their appearance, but it happens sometimes.
    I know for a fact I've heard every member of my own family pass comments on what others were wearing, male and female.

    Have you never been in company with a person who commented on another's appearance?
    If you have, ok cool.
    Have you written off all those people as not worthy of oxygen, or as not being 'genuine'?

    You're making judgements yourself here on this thread, which is part and parcel of what we do, so maybe we just have a different view on what judgements mean.

    The thread relates purely to judging people on appearances.

    People making comments about a pig in yoga pants are saying a lot about themselves. No judgement necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭SineadSpears


    You appreciate a bit of rough? Grey tracksuit bottoms are standard issue for teenage men scrotes up and down the land

    My kinda man yep


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 353 ✭✭discodiva92


    Manky runners seems to have become work wear


  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anewme wrote: »
    Post says an awful lot about poster.

    Imagine referring to a person as a pig in Yoga pants.

    Nasty.

    Imagine thinking some internet tut-tutting and high horsing overrides human nature.

    How about I replace 'pig' with 'Jane', or 'Aine', 'Sinead'? What difference? None.

    Clothing choices matter. Don't dress like a slob. Fashion is a catch-all at times for outright laziness, with athletic fashion being one of the clearest indicators that someone is taking shortcuts, even if the wearer isn't a fat girl in yoga pants.

    Dress like an adult if you're an adult and understand that you'll be judged by people, even when they don't mean to. I just accept that I do it, which is what seems to be bothering you most.


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  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anewme wrote: »
    The thread relates purely to judging people on appearances.

    People making comments about a pig in yoga pants are saying a lot about themselves. No judgement necessary.

    Yep. I'm saying, you shouldn't try to explain away what's plain to see from some appalling clothing choices people make.

    If it dresses like a pig, it's probably a pig. If it squeals like a pig, it's probably a pig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Imagine thinking some internet tut-tutting and high horsing overrides human nature.

    How about I replace 'pig' with 'Jane', or 'Aine', 'Sinead'? What difference? None.

    Clothing choices matter. Don't dress like a slob. Fashion is a catch-all at times for outright laziness, with athletic fashion being one of the clearest indicators that someone is taking shortcuts, even if the wearer isn't a fat girl in yoga pants.

    Dress like an adult if you're an adult and understand that you'll be judged by people, even when they don't mean to. I just accept that I do it, which is what seems to be bothering you most.

    Go to your Mammy and tell her a stranger on the internet said she needs to take away your shovel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    lucalux wrote: »
    Not in my experience. You could hear those comments from all kinds of men.

    Makes no odds, whether someone's ahead in their career or a scrote, some people are just like that.

    Edit: I had missed the last posters comment, and have basically said the exact same thing, sorry!
    It's a judgement. It doesn't need to be true. It's judgement on the character of someone based on statements they make. Like judging people by what they wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    Those leggings look trashy and cheap

    Classical fashion doesn't age.

    These trends will die soon hopefully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    anewme wrote: »
    The thread relates purely to judging people on appearances.

    People making comments about a pig in yoga pants are saying a lot about themselves. No judgement necessary.

    So, you've never heard anyone in your family or friend group judge someones appearance negatively?
    I'm genuinely amazed if you haven't.

    The point I'm trying to get at here, is that you've judged anyone who judges people on their appearance to be a waste of oxygen. Not genuine people.
    I disagree.

    JayZeus has extremely strong views on women in leggings, (their own opinions to hold) but that's what some people think when they see fat people in revealing or tight clothing.

    Beauty standards are always skewed towards thinner people.
    So people finding fat unattractive is not upsetting or surprising to me, it's a logical result of what we put on a pedestal, when you think about it.

    People judge, whether we think it's right or not.
    Pretending it's otherwise is all a bit PollyAnna to me, getting upset about others having different ideas of attractiveness is silly to me.
    Maintaining that 'good' people never judge people's appearance, I think, is incorrect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭rapul


    anewme wrote: »
    Go to your Mammy and tell her a stranger on the internet said she needs to take away your shovel.

    Ridiculous post, wheres your shovel


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It's a judgement. It doesn't need to be true. It's judgement on the character of someone based on statements they make. Like judging people by what they wear.

    I understand you, I just wouldn't personally consider those comments to tell me much about the commenter's social status, their ability to get along with others, be respected, or make headway in their career. Nor would I think it told me much about how intelligent the person is.

    It would tell me they make crass comments, and aren't afraid to be heard doing it, but not much else!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    lucalux wrote: »
    People judge, whether we think it's right or not.
    Pretending it's otherwise is all a bit PollyAnna to me, getting upset about others having different ideas of attractiveness is silly to me.
    Maintaining that 'good' people never judge people's appearance, I think, is incorrect.

    We all judge all the time. It's how we process things, what is different is how much weight we put on it and how obnoxious we are about it. I find it perfectly reasonable that simple mind could be occupied by different women wearing leggings for a long time. Less simple mind would be quickly bored by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    You appreciate a bit of rough? Grey tracksuit bottoms are standard issue for teenage scrotes up and down the land

    It's a common meme now, ladies (and men) being able to have a gander at what lies beneath :)
    The outlines can be very telling, I hear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    lucalux wrote: »
    I understand you, I just wouldn't personally consider those comments to tell me much about the commenter's social status, their ability to get along with others, be respected, or make headway in their career. Nor would I think it told me much about how intelligent the person is.

    It would tell me they make crass comments, and aren't afraid to be heard doing it, but not much else!

    It does actually tell a lot about a persons social standing and EQ. These comments would not be tolerated in public.

    Lets be honest, if JsyZeus had a position of any authority and made those comments in public, he'd be fired.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭lucalux


    meeeeh wrote: »
    We all judge all the time. It's how we process things, what is different is how much weight we put on it and how obnoxious we are about it. I find it perfectly reasonable that simple mind could be occupied by different women wearing leggings for a long time. Less simple mind would quickly bored by it.

    Fully agree. We all judge.


    Exactly my point when I started :)


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