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The Farming Protest @ Dublin City Centre

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    #92
    Collie D
    Registered Users Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Anyone know where I'd get a good /cheap breakfast in the Nassau st area? I have the John Deere parked up there and don't want to be walking too far.
    realdanbreen wrote: »
    ? Hello?
    Anyone know?
    BTW I can't see how people want to live up here with all the traffic and everything.

    Haven’t a clue. We all eat caviar up here.


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    #93
    Beechwoodspark
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    ? Hello?
    Anyone know?
    BTW I can't see how people want to live up here with all the traffic and everything.

    Spar baggot st nearby does v good breakfast roll

    Kc peaches is ok but little bit pricier too


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    #94
    AulWan
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I wish it had been addressed by the minister and his govt but no.

    Rural Ireland has had to take its grievances to central dublin and they should be addressed.

    Then take your grievances directly to the Minister at Leinster House, in a professional manner.

    Farmers have no business clogging up Dublin with tractors and disrupting the day to day lives of ordinary Dublin folk who are just trying to get too / from work. You have no right to block the streets and have most likely lost what little support you might have gotten from Dublin people.


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    #95
    ELM327
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    “Morons” who have achieved their first aim of getting creed to meet them

    Yesterday creed said no way no how

    This morning he folded.

    This is small progress but progress nonetheless


    So what does meeting the minister achieve?
    SFA. You dont have an aligned agenda.
    Your motions are more akin to a communist society (enforce better prices on our supply chain or else) than a capitalist country.


    This is nonsense and you are inconveniencing real workers to do it.


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    #96
    Paddigol
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    mr.stonewall wrote: »
    They are demanding a higher price but they are dealing with a cartel controlled by Larry Goodman. Also inaction from minister Creedregarding the agreement that was reached 2 months ago. Price of beef is now €90 per animal less than the EU average. No of them are looking for a handout just fairplay in the supply chain

    They're doing a super fantastic job of getting that message across. Not being sarcastic at all. Ultimately if you act like a clown you get treated like a clown. And these guys are acting like grade A clowns. I've no doubt that the beef farming sector - in fact the whole farming sector - is under severe pressure. But so are a lot of other sectors of society. Childcare. Transport. Housing. Pensions. Healthcare. The people that the farmers are deriding as 'them up in dublin' are getting squeezed from every angle. And an angry farmer trying to tell them that they have it easy is going to elicit one response "f**k you and the tractor you rode in on".

    If that's what they're trying to achieve, then well done indeed.


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    #97
    ELM327
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    Paddigol wrote: »
    They're doing a super fantastic job of getting that message across. Not being sarcastic at all. Ultimately if you act like a clown you get treated like a clown. And these guys are acting like grade A clowns. I've no doubt that the beef farming sector - in fact the whole farming sector - is under severe pressure. But so are a lot of other sectors of society. Childcare. Transport. Housing. Pensions. Healthcare. The people that the farmers are deriding as 'them up in dublin' are getting squeezed from every angle. And an angry farmer trying to tell them that they have it easy is going to elicit one response "f**k you and the tractor you rode in on".

    If that's what they're trying to achieve, then well done indeed.
    I think this is the response that the rest of Ireland should give them.
    I know I will.


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    #98
    Beechwoodspark
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    So what does meeting the minister achieve?
    SFA. You dont have an aligned agenda.
    Your motions are more akin to a communist society (enforce better prices on our supply chain or else) than a capitalist country.


    This is nonsense and you are inconveniencing real workers to do it.

    I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either


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    #99
    Collie D
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either

    You first.


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    #100
    realdanbreen
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    AulWan wrote: »
    Then take your grievances directly to the Minister at Leinster House, in a professional manner.

    Farmers have no business clogging up Dublin with tractors and disrupting the day to day lives of ordinary Dublin folk who are just trying to get too / from work. You have no right to block the streets and have most likely lost what little support you might have gotten from Dublin people.

    You think it's 'support from Dublin people' we are looking for?
    We are done with that, we want fair play.


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    #101
    PauloMN
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either

    Don't want an urban rural divide?!?!?!? :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac: Great way to achieve that goal, bring a load of tractors up to the city and cause traffic chaos for a few days.

    Deluded....


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    #102
    Slattsy
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either

    I have a feeling you are that brother.


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    #103
    mariaalice
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Anyone know where I'd get a good /cheap breakfast in the Nassau st area? I have the John Deere parked up there and don't want to be walking too far.

    Go around to the Kilkenny shop Nassau Street shop, the breakfast is lovely plenty of room if you want to get a big table to discuss strategy


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    #104
    Deebles McBeebles
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    If you're against this protest, I urge you to go to the nearest Lidl/Aldi, buy some really cheap meat and throw it at the farmers.

    Not that I'm anti-farmer, I'm just pro-humour.


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    #105
    VinLieger
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    They should hire a crane and several flat beds, come into the city and lift them each onto a trailer then bring them all to an impound area, anyone who attempts to interfere is arrested, job done. Its what would happen if any other group tried to pull a similar stunt.

    Appeasing these arrogant yokels is whats gotten us to this stage where they think they can just traipse up to Dublin and inconvenience everyone else because they refuse to adapt to new realities.


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    #106
    Padraig Mor
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    There’s unreal anger in rural Ireland.

    I’ve flagged this a few times before on various threads but yes, this has been coming a long time.

    A sense nobody is listening. Maybe they will listen now.

    LOL. I've been hearing the same poor mouth line from farmers since I was a kid and I'm in my forties now! Never a shred of gratitude from them.....


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    #107
    blackbox
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    What do they expect the minister to do? He can't control global prices.

    When there is more beef than anyone wants, it is inevitable that the price will be low.

    What would any other business do if demand for a particular product was declining. They sure wouldn't keep producing it at the same rate or even faster.


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    #108
    billybonkers
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either

    The protest should be now over as Creed agreed to meet with them. Can you pass the message along to remove the tractors please?


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    #109
    realdanbreen
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    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    If you're against this protest, I urge you to go to the nearest Lidl/Aldi, buy some really cheap meat and throw it at the farmers.

    Not that I'm anti-farmer, I'm just pro-humour.

    Ah come on, usually in times of crisis Dublin folk don't buy meat from Lidl, they wreck the shop and rob the meat!


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    #110
    VinLieger
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    blackbox wrote: »
    What do they expect the minister to do? He can't control global prices.

    When there is more beef than anyone wants, it is inevitable that the price will be low.

    What would any other business do if demand for a particular product was declining. They sure wouldn't keep producing it at the same rate or even faster.

    100%, they refuse to adapt to their own failing business models, they have l;and they can switch to cereal crops which not only are in demand but also will help the environment as they wont be rearing cattle.

    Also they complain about prices but who was it who sold off their controlling stakes in the co-ops again?

    Their current situations are 100% their own fault by selling off the co-ops and not having enough foresight or quite simply any joined up thinking to understand the saturation of the beef markets would mean they needed to adapt their farming produce.


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    #111
    mariaalice
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Im sick hearing these farmers feed us, not all of us eat beef, and they export the vast majority of it. Seems to be an oversaturated market, maybe try something else lads.

    Thats an important point that is being missed and is related to a much wider issue in rural Ireland, a fair few beef farmers are actually part-time farmers with 20 acers, while at the same time working as an engineering operative in the nearest big town, beef farming lends its self more easily to part time farming. its getting more difficult to do this

    The psychological change from seeing themselves as farmers to seeing themselves as employees is huge, farming is not just an occupation in rural Ireland.


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    #112
    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Looks like there is going to be traffic chaos in Dublin City, with the following roads closed tomorrow: Fran McNulty had tweeted the following:
    Kevin Street, Cuffe Street, Kildare Street, Merrion Square South, Dawson Street & Merrion Row will remain closed tomorrow as farmer protests continue.

    Having a look at the protests and what they are protesting about it almost seems like they are trying to be the Irish gilet jaunes. What started as a protest/movement against low beef prices seems to have morphed into anti-vegan, anti-climate and other that seem to go hand in hand with those issues. Indeed they are ultimately saying is that the rural way of life is dying.

    What say you? Are you on the side of the farmer?
    Do you eat?


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    #113
    AulWan
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    You think it's 'support from Dublin people' we are looking for?
    We are done with that, we want fair play.

    Right.

    So you're idea of "fair play", is to disrupt and cause nuisance and inconvenince to thousands upon thousands of ordinary people in Dublin - who can do nothing to help you, and whose support you don't want, from getting too and from their homes.

    You really thought that one through.


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    #114
    Collie D
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Ah come on, usually in times of crisis Dublin folk don't buy meat from Lidl, they wreck the shop and rob the meat!

    You’re lucky you’re in Ireland. Try this in Paris or London and you’d need to learn how to jumpstart a burned out shell to get home.


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    #115
    Plumbthedepths
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    VinLieger wrote: »
    100%, they refuse to adapt to their own failing business models, they have l;and they can switch to cereal crops which not only are in demand but also will help the environment as they wont be rearing cattle.

    .

    Small point but quite alot of land in this country is not fit for cereal production.


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    #116
    VinLieger
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    realdanbreen wrote: »
    You think it's 'support from Dublin people' we are looking for?
    We are done with that, we want fair play.


    LOL so "fair play" = even more government subsidies than you currently get and continued propping up of an industry refusing to adapt to modern realities


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    #117
    VinLieger
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Small point but quite alot of land in this country is not fit for cereal production.


    But theres still plenty that is in the south and east and is used primarily for livestock


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    #118
    Gael23
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    I imagine they will be arrested if they go near the M50


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    #119
    realdanbreen
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    AulWan wrote: »
    Right.

    So you're idea of "fair play", is to disrupt and cause nuisance and inconvenince to thousands upon thousands of ordinary people in Dublin - who can do nothing to help you, and whose support you don't want, from getting too and from their homes.

    You really thought that one through.

    I'd say the fact that it's all over the papers and media means it's going OK.


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    #120
    ELM327
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either


    Sorry, I'm at work. And if I wasnt, I'd rather pull off my toenails with a rusty pliers than join your socialist nonsense.


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    #121
    realdanbreen
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    Gael23 wrote: »
    I imagine they will be arrested if they go near the M50


    Ahem!-that's the plan.


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