The Farming Protest @ Dublin City Centre

MrMusician18

Looks like there is going to be traffic chaos in Dublin City, with the following roads closed tomorrow: Fran McNulty had tweeted the following:
Kevin Street, Cuffe Street, Kildare Street, Merrion Square South, Dawson Street & Merrion Row will remain closed tomorrow as farmer protests continue.

Having a look at the protests and what they are protesting about it almost seems like they are trying to be the Irish gilet jaunes. What started as a protest/movement against low beef prices seems to have morphed into anti-vegan, anti-climate and other that seem to go hand in hand with those issues. Indeed they are ultimately saying is that the rural way of life is dying.

What say you? Are you on the side of the farmer?

TheValeyard

Nice tractors though.

Kermit.de.frog

They seem able to pay their hotel bills anyway.

Wanderer78

Globalisation and free markets, everybody wins! Yippee!

boggerman1

I'm a farmer and don't support this nonsense.they blocked the factories for nearly 8 weeks and achieved sfa.this bull of a stroke now in Dublin will really get ordinary people's backs up.shame on these lads and when u see some of the people who are speaking on behalf of us farmers,some of Gemma Doherty's buddies,then no thanks.sorry people of Dublin

Bob Harris

If you never got a ride in a tractor then tomorrow is your chance.

Mr.Crinklewood

Creed talking to farmers.

Source -Newstalk.

Bob Harris

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Creed talking to farmers.

Source -Newstalk.

MrMusician18

boggerman1 wrote: »

I'm a farmer and don't support this nonsense.they blocked the factories for nearly 8 weeks and achieved sfa.this bull of a stroke now in Dublin will really get ordinary people's backs up.shame on these lads and when u see some of the people who are speaking on behalf of us farmers,some of Gemma Doherty's buddies,then no thanks.sorry people of Dublin

Yeah, it looks like the National Party have infected this group too.

DrumSteve

I think if they were anyone but farmers the garda wouldn't have been as nice to them.

gmisk

Ok bus atm into town all buses only going as far as pearse station zzz looks like a walk in the rain to work this am.
This isn't the way to win over the general public.

Edit now only as far as Nassau street.

Beechwoodspark

Go on the farmers !

Rural Ireland has been beyond patient and it’s not working

Collie D

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Go on the farmers !

Rural Ireland has been beyond patient and it’s not working

This rural v urban thing is nonsense. What do you think the average citizen of Dublin can or should do? We’re not out to get you ffs

suicide_circus

we need to deamonise these farmers quick!

Roger_007

Does anyone know what specificly the farmers are looking for, or are they just demonstrating that they can clog up the city any time they want?

MrMusician18

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Go on the farmers !

Rural Ireland has been beyond patient and it’s not working

Patient about what exactly? This group seem to have a scatter gun set of demands, ranging from issues on direct provision to technical classification for animals.

Seems rather disperate, so there is no hope of them succeeding.

The Satanist

Shouldn't the farmers and their lack of negotiating skills be protesting at the HQ of the retailers, or is that too logical?

Wanderer78

The Satanist wrote: »

Shouldn't the farmers and their lack of negotiating skills be protesting at the HQ of the retailers, or is that too logical?

it would be a good next move, along side other protests, such as this one, as this problem is highly complex, and involves many different elements, not just political ones

malinheader

The EU will step in with more subsidies,grants or another sweetener for the farmers at the expense of another sector and they will all be happy.

The Satanist

Wanderer78 wrote: »

it would be a good next move, along side other protests, such as this one, as this problem is highly complex, and involves many different elements, not just political ones

What's complex about it? If they're making a loss, as they tend to claim, either demand a higher price from the people they supply, or get out of the business.

Wanderer78

The Satanist wrote: »

What's complex about it? If they're making a loss, as they tend to claim, either demand a higher price from the people they supply, or get out of the business.

not at all, this is the fundamental failures of our current economic/political ideologies, we re watching it unfold, we re all effectively experiencing it

Beechwoodspark

There’s unreal anger in rural Ireland.

I’ve flagged this a few times before on various threads but yes, this has been coming a long time.

A sense nobody is listening. Maybe they will listen now.

The Satanist

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

There’s unreal anger in rural Ireland.

I’ve flagged this a few times before on various threads but yes, this has been coming a long time.

A sense nobody is listening. Maybe they will listen now.

Stop being angry and get back to work.

PopePalpatine

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

There’s unreal anger in rural Ireland.

I’ve flagged this a few times before on various threads but yes, this has been coming a long time.

A sense nobody is listening. Maybe they will listen now.

Gonna vote FF to own them'uns up in the Big Shmoke!

mr.stonewall

The Satanist wrote: »

What's complex about it? If they're making a loss, as they tend to claim, either demand a higher price from the people they supply, or get out of the business.

They are demanding a higher price but they are dealing with a cartel controlled by Larry Goodman. Also inaction from minister Creedregarding the agreement that was reached 2 months ago. Price of beef is now €90 per animal less than the EU average. No of them are looking for a handout just fairplay in the supply chain

Beechwoodspark

People in dublin are living in a bubble. Maybe they will wake up if they are disrupted a bit.

Wanderer78

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

People in dublin are living in a bubble. Maybe they will wake up if they are disrupted a bit.

doubt it, protests nowadays seem to entrench people

The Satanist

mr.stonewall wrote: »

They are demanding a higher price but they are dealing with a cartel controlled by Larry Goodman. Also inaction from minister Creedregarding the agreement that was reached 2 months ago. Price of beef is now €90 per animal less than the EU average. No of them are looking for a handout just fairplay in the supply chain

If that's the case, take it to the garda or EU level. Disrupting ther people that subsidise their industry and local authorities isn't the way to go.

Learning a few tricks from the French farmers it seems.

suicide_circus

ronoc wrote: »

Learning a few tricks from the French farmers it seems.

German and Dutch farmers have been doing similar protest recently

Beechwoodspark

ronoc wrote: »

Learning a few tricks from the French farmers it seems.

No harm

Softly softly has got the farmers and rural Ireland fcuk all

Sorry but there’s unreal anger out there.

It needs to be adequately addressed.

PopePalpatine

I haven't encountered any delays myself (coming in on the North Circular Rd), either they're approaching from the south or they're getting a taste of Dublin traffic.

suicide_circus

can you drive a tractor on the m50?

is_that_so

suicide_circus wrote: »

German and Dutch farmers have been doing similar protest recently

Have they been successful? As stated earlier this one seems to be a hodge podge of unconnected demands. The M50 threat is beyond stupid and won't win any friends nor support.

is_that_so

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

No harm

Softly softly has got the farmers and rural Ireland fcuk all

Sorry but there’s unreal anger out there.

It needs to be adequately addressed.

Acting angrily just means postponing the adult part of the conversation and everyone else sits on the moral high ground until people stop venting like intemperate children.

suicide_circus

suicide_circus wrote: »

can you drive a tractor on the m50?

Hopefully, I could do with a day off.

Omackeral

Wanderer78 wrote: »

doubt it, protests nowadays seem to entrench people

They're also a dime a dozen. Hard to give a fiddlers when it's something else every other week.

Wanderer78

Omackeral wrote: »

They're also a dime a dozen. Hard to give a fiddlers when it's something else every other week.

you d have to ask, why is there so many protests!

Collie D

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

People in dublin are living in a bubble. Maybe they will wake up if they are disrupted a bit.

Again as you seemed to have missed it earlier...what should we do?

Although I support them, social media does seem to be making protesting worst all sort of demands get tacked on to the main issue cranks with minor or obscure demands get tagged on the issue, those who want to vent at the government get tagged on to the protest.

Its happening everywhere and may be linked to ideas about the supposed end of democracy

Nermal

Too late to cancel the broadband?

Atlantic Dawn

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

People in dublin are living in a bubble. Maybe they will wake up if they are disrupted a bit.

People in Dublin are keeping most of the country afloat.

Beechwoodspark

Collie D wrote: »

Again as you seemed to have missed it earlier...what should we do?

Come out and support the protest is what ppl should do

is_that_so

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you d have to ask, why is there so many protests!

There's generally one of some form outside the Dail almost every day. It's called democracy and freedom of speech Anyone with an axe to grind can protest and usually does.

Beechwoodspark

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Come out and support the protest is what ppl should do

What would that do, does the government really have the power to force the main meat company to pay more or operate in a different way.

Remember we live in a free capitalist( sort of ) of society any interference fro the government and the produces would be straight to the courts.

Wanderer78

is_that_so wrote: »

There's generally one of some form outside the Dail almost every day. It's called democracy and freedom of speech Anyone with an axe to grind can protest and usually does.

something is going wrong though, there does seem to be a growing number of protests now

Omackeral

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you d have to ask, why is there so many protests!

Not including this one as such but there's definitely a few constants in various protests in Dublin City in recent times.

-Same people involved no matter what.

-Hijacking for their own means.

-Professional protesters who'd rather cause disturbances than actually work.

Atlantic Dawn

mariaalice wrote: »

What would that do, does the government really have the power to force the main meat company to pay more or operate in a different way.

Remember we live in a free capitalist( sort of ) of society any interference fro the government and the produces would be straight to the courts.

They should look for us to leave the EU if they want that level of market control.

Wanderer78

mariaalice wrote: »

What would that do, does the government really have the power to force the main meat company to pay more or operate in a different way.

Remember we live in a free capitalist( sort of ) of society any interference fro the government and the produces would be straight to the courts.

free market! i think not!

Omackeral

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Come out and support the protest is what ppl should do

People need to work and go to school

is_that_so

Wanderer78 wrote: »

something is going wrong though, there does seem to be a growing number of protests now

I really don't think so. The big ones just get highlighted more. Social media does magnify things especially the "anger".