Green Bay Packers Thread

Brendan Bendar · 13-10-2019 6:55am

Difficult game Monday night.

Need to show the same tempo as against Dallas.

15-10-2019 4:05am

Blut2 wrote: »

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/aaron-rodgers-has-been-magic-in-the-first-quarter-and-a-pumpkin-in-the-fourth/

Good article here on Rodgers' up and down performances to date this season. It basically goes into great detail on how hes been playing like the best QB in the league in Q1, but one of the worst in Q4, so far this year. And that the defense has been keeping the Packers alive in games in the second half.

Well, over 6 mins left in tonight's game to test his 4th quarter prowess as Pack trails by 2

pedatron · 15-10-2019 9:34am

Packers got some very suspect calls by the refs last night. Watched the highlights there now. The facemask one against Flowers was a joke. If anyone was at a facemask it was Bakhtiari. Still though, 5-1!

15-10-2019 9:55am

pedatron wrote: »

Packers got some very suspect calls by the refs last night. Watched the highlights there now. The facemask one against Flowers was a joke. If anyone was at a facemask it was Bakhtiari. Still though, 5-1!

Very suspect, 2 phantom face mask calls and a missed pass interference. Lions can feel a bit robbed, though the whole conspiracy theories about favouring the Packers can only come from people who forget things like last season when it seemed Clay Matthews was penalised for every second tackle. But bad night for the officials alright.

Brendan Bendar · 15-10-2019 2:20pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Very suspect, 2 phantom face mask calls and a missed pass interference. Lions can feel a bit robbed, though the whole conspiracy theories about favouring the Packers can only come from people who forget things like last season when it seemed Clay Matthews was penalised for every second tackle. But bad night for the officials alright.

Game ball goes to the officiating team!!!!!

Some very bad calls favoured the Packers last night, unusually it has to be said.

Good points...... Lazard.... could be a real weapon

Defense.... when the chips were down they delivered.

Jamaal Williams back and doing well

Mason Crosby... slotted the kicks that needed slotting.

The Smiths, did what they were paid to do.

Bad points

The slipping and sliding..... sack the footwear coach:D

Dispossessions after the ‘catch’, seems to be happening a lot

The injury to 81.

Overall this was a lucky win, I’m really enthused about Lazard but really feel sorry for poor Sheppard #10, hope he will come back from those bloopers.

raze_them_all_ · 15-10-2019 3:00pm

Packers got away with one. Always **** when your on the losing side of those calls

Jofspring · 15-10-2019 3:26pm

Definitely got away with it last night. It's still hard to call what way we will shape up overall. The defense looks good but has patches of coughing up big yards. The offense can be electric one minute and completely disfunctional the next.

In saying all that I think the Packers have had one of the harder run of games in the league. Compare it to who the likes of the Patriots have played so far.

15-10-2019 3:44pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Sheppard #10, hope he will come back from those bloopers.

The one that bounced off him in or near the red zone and neatly fell into the Lions players hands felt like a game ender at the time.

Brendan Bendar · 15-10-2019 7:14pm

Jofspring wrote: »

Definitely got away with it last night. It's still hard to call what way we will shape up overall. The defense looks good but has patches of coughing up big yards. The offense can be electric one minute and completely disfunctional the next.

In saying all that I think the Packers have had one of the harder run of games in the league. Compare it to who the likes of the Patriots have played so far.

Nothing new for a Packer defense to cough up big yards.

Dropping the ball is an issue,a big issue,and needs to be corrected.

Blut2 · 15-10-2019 10:21pm

All of the dropped balls really jumped out at me too. It must be incredibly frustrating for Rodgers to make good throws only to have them dropped. I guess its a result of the very callow receiver corps though, hopefully they'll grow out of it as the season continues.

raze_them_all_ · 15-10-2019 10:22pm

Blut2 wrote: »

All of the dropped balls really jumped out at me too. It must be incredibly frustrating for Rodgers to make good throws only to have them dropped. I guess its a result of the very callow receiver corps though, hopefully they'll grow out of it as the season continues.

Would love to have cobb this year tbh

digzy · 16-10-2019 7:01am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Would love to have a healthy cobb this year tbh

Fyp!

Brendan Bendar · 16-10-2019 1:18pm

It would be great if Allen Lazard trained on,given the health of our receiving corps.

Why the fook do we have such bad luck with TEs.

Other teams seem to be able to get them.

Jaysus we had Jarrod Cooke who was the last half decent one we had and got rid of him.

Sternberger is injured, Jimmy is too slow, Evan Baylis?

Why can’t we get a durable fookher who can catch and run.....on the concrete.... between the numbers.

Anyone.

Brendan Bendar · 20-10-2019 10:57pm

I’d love to say the big win over the Raiders was a huge turning point but it wasn’t.

The way Carr cut open the defense with big plays to Weller down the forkhing middle was concerning.
Nobody laid a glove on him.
What is it with the Packers defending 3rd and longs..... will be beaten to a wide open TE almost

every time.

This one was closer than the score suggests.

ScummyMan · 20-10-2019 11:19pm

Christ on a bike, ye can be a negative bunch sometimes. With some key injuries on both sides of the field, we're 6-1 and 3-0 in the division! Not sure our season needs a turning point.

Yes we gave up big chunks on defense, but came up big when needed with 3 redzone stops. We don't match up well against tight ends with Savage and Greene out, and Gruden schemed it well.

Tough game at the Chiefs next week, but with Mahomes out and Rodgers in this form I'd fancy us to edge it.

Brendan Bendar · 21-10-2019 7:01am

ScummyMan wrote: »

Christ on a bike, ye can be a negative bunch sometimes. With some key injuries on both sides of the field, we're 6-1 and 3-0 in the division! Not sure our season needs a turning point.

Yes we gave up big chunks on defense, but came up big when needed with 3 redzone stops. We don't match up well against tight ends with Savage and Greene out, and Gruden schemed it well.

Tough game at the Chiefs next week, but with Mahomes out and Rodgers in this form I'd fancy us to edge it.

You have a point Scum, but when knockout football comes, if it does, we will need to eliminate those weaknesses .

raze_them_all_ · 21-10-2019 4:57pm

Rumours of us being in for sanders from the broncos. Thoughts?

Blut2 · 21-10-2019 7:31pm

Hes not a game changer, but he couldn't hurt. The WR corps is really lacking in both experience and depth. As long as its only a 1 or 2 year contract, and the price in draft picks is reasonable (A 5th rounder?) I'd be all for it.

Brendan Bendar · 22-10-2019 11:27am

ScummyMan wrote: »

Christ on a bike, ye can be a negative bunch sometimes. With some key injuries on both sides of the field, we're 6-1 and 3-0 in the division! Not sure our season needs a turning point.

Yes we gave up big chunks on defense, but came up big when needed with 3 redzone stops. We don't match up well against tight ends with Savage and Greene out, and Gruden schemed it well.

Tough game at the Chiefs next week, but with Mahomes out and Rodgers in this form I'd fancy us to edge it.

Yes, will be a difficult game.

Regarding my “criticism” of the D in a previous post , a podcast I subscribe to brought up the very same ‘fears’ ,ie, they had two guys who could beat us in the O and we couldn’t handle either.

Yes we got the stops when needed but you don’t have to be too sharp to notice that three of those stops, whilst great, could have easily gone in which whilst not maybe game winning for the Raiders, would certainly been seriously momentum changing and possibly game altering plays.

Sorry for the negativity but maybe I have been watching Packers games for too long:D

digzy · 22-10-2019 12:34pm

Can anyone recommend good packer podcasts?

Brendan Bendar · 22-10-2019 2:42pm

digzy wrote: »

Can anyone recommend good packer podcasts?

Yes.

‘Locked on Packers’. This is a daily podcast.

‘Packernet Podcast’. Host (Ryan Schlip)is a bit ‘gobby’ but otherwise ok

Plenty of others but I like those two.

Brendan Bendar · 22-10-2019 2:49pm

digzy wrote: »

Can anyone recommend good packer podcasts?

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-pack-daddy-podcast/packernet-podcast

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/locked-on-sports/locked-on-packers

Jofspring · 22-10-2019 8:16pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Rumours of us being in for sanders from the broncos. Thoughts?

Sanders gone to the 49ers

Blut2 · 22-10-2019 9:30pm

And Sanu to the Patriots. Shame we got neither. It would have been worth trading away some draft capital given Rodgers age.

Jofspring · 23-10-2019 10:17am

https://www.packersproshop.com/2019-packers-yearbook

I'm probably going to pick up one of these. Anyone else interested in getting one and splitting the cost? Two would work out about €20 each including postage but ordering one individually works out at about €27, including postage.

Or does anyone know somewhere in Europe it can bought?

28-10-2019 1:10pm

That 3rd quarter throw by Rodgers was pretty remarkable.

It has to be said, after his performance last weekend, the alleged row with Lafleur is producing some great displays...

Brendan Bendar · 28-10-2019 6:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That 3rd quarter throw by Rodgers was pretty remarkable.

It has to be said, after his performance last weekend, the alleged row with Lafleur is producing some great displays...

I’d say he was ‘throwing’ to Jimmy G.

28-10-2019 11:12pm

Was just searching for posts about Aaron Jones to see who was first to spot his potential and it struck me...no sign of Billy86 this season...

peejay1986 · 04-11-2019 4:32am

Nothing short of abysmal, today. Couldn't get anything going. Really didn't agree with some of our play calling but regardless, the Chargers (the Chargers!) had our number today.

Thankfully the division went 0-4 today, but we really need to learn from this.

Brendan Bendar · 04-11-2019 5:45am

peejay1986 wrote: »

Nothing short of abysmal, today. Couldn't get anything going. Really didn't agree with some of our play calling but regardless, the Chargers (the Chargers!) had our number today.

Thankfully the division went 0-4 today, but we really need to learn from this.

Yes we do.

Penalties...

Stop giving up huge chunks over the middle.

Not getting to the QB

Would expect to see a much improved display next week.

cosatron · 04-11-2019 10:44am

the chargers really are funny team, when they are on form, they have a top defence and rivers has the weapons, unfortunately we got them when they were on form. just a bad day all round, but a good lesson for them to not take any team for granted, which obviously they did.

Blut2 · 04-11-2019 12:37pm

Some silly penalties didn't help, but the killer was the O-line just getting eaten alive. Apart from the one TD drive in Q4 when the game was already over Rodgers never had any time in the pocket to actually make throws.

Lucky the rest of the division also lost at least.

Brendan Bendar · 04-11-2019 1:01pm

Blut2 wrote: »

Some silly penalties didn't help, but the killer was the O-line just getting eaten alive. Apart from the one TD drive in Q4 when the game was already over Rodgers never had any time in the pocket to actually make throws.

Lucky the rest of the division also lost at least.

What never ceases to puzzle me is that we can’t get a good reliable TE to catch some passes up the middle, yet every other team seems to have one?

When I see the Packers defending the opposition on a first and twenty, I know, I know, they are going to complete with a big pass down the middle.

Happened last evening.

Was it wise to play Davante Adams.... don’t think so, didn’t seem fully fit and seemed to knock the offense out of kilter.

Way too similar to the first few games he played in...not his fault, but hey... the similarity is there.

Food for thought there.... O-line poor, defense worse, one to forget.

Need a big upscale in performance for the game against Carolina next week

Don’t want to be going into a bye on the back of two defeats. …… with a game against the Niners after that.

raze_them_all_ · 04-11-2019 11:56pm

Cmc is going to **** g destroy us

seiphil · 07-11-2019 4:17pm

Really expected to see more from Kenny Clark this season. We are practically no threat through the middle. The Smiths are getting to the QB, but if they don't then they have all the time in the world to go 40 yards down the middle run or throw(There is nothing more annoying than seeing the ball launched 20 yards down the middle with soft coverage for the receiver to go another 10/15) This has been happening for at least 6 years no. I believe Clark is injured. If thats the case rest him for a week or two because he might aswell not be playing the last 5 weeks.

Offense really struggled this week but we have seen what they can do once the O-line stops giving up penalties and puts up a bit of a fight against the pass rush. Also Rodgers has a SUPER bad habit of replying on Adams too much. Spread the ball around. Thats what this offense has been thriving on.

Anyway, We should beat Panthers. Conceding points and a lot of yards on the way.

Brendan Bendar · 07-11-2019 4:58pm

seiphil wrote: »

Really expected to see more from Kenny Clark this season. We are practically no threat through the middle. The Smiths are getting to the QB, but if they don't then they have all the time in the world to go 40 yards down the middle run or throw(There is nothing more annoying than seeing the ball launched 20 yards down the middle with soft coverage for the receiver to go another 10/15) This has been happening for at least 6 years no. I believe Clark is injured. If thats the case rest him for a week or two because he might aswell not be playing the last 5 weeks.

Offense really struggled this week but we have seen what they can do once the O-line stops giving up penalties and puts up a bit of a fight against the pass rush. Also Rodgers has a SUPER bad habit of replying on Adams too much. Spread the ball around. Thats what this offense has been thriving on.

Anyway, We should beat Panthers. Conceding points and a lot of yards on the way.

Yep, agree with most of that.

I wouldn’t throw too much shade on Kenny Clark, yes there are injuries but he also gets doubled a lot .
Got a good grade from PFF.
Agree he might need a rest but with a bye week coming won’t get it this week.

If Greg Olsen has a big day .....uhmmmmm bad things will happen.

Jimmy G ..... a fcuking oil tanker would turn quicker.

Anyway.... expecting a good win on Sunday

Blut2 · 07-11-2019 5:19pm

McCaffrey will probably tear up the middle for a couple of TDs. But it should still be a win hopefully unless things go very wrong elsewhere. The bookies reckon the Packers by 5.5pts.

Brendan Bendar · 07-11-2019 5:29pm

Blut2 wrote: »

McCaffrey will probably tear up the middle for a couple of TDs. But it should still be a win hopefully unless things go very wrong elsewhere. The bookies reckon the Packers by 5.5pts.

Panthers are dead last against the run in the NFL.

So 30 and 33 should profit.

Now it’s a back up QB, ****e weather, biggest threat CMC .

If Pettine can’t handle that it’s problems.

The D need to front up big time......will be a very interesting game to see if the Packers can erase the rumours going around about the Chargers game.

raze_them_all_ · 07-11-2019 5:52pm

Lads are ye serious. Cmc is going to ****ing rip that defence apart

Brendan Bendar · 07-11-2019 6:05pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Lads are ye serious. Cmc is going to ****ing rip that defence apart

Let’s wait and see......

Blut2 · 07-11-2019 8:20pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Panthers are dead last against the run in the NFL.

So 30 and 33 should profit.

Now it’s a back up QB, ****e weather, biggest threat CMC .

If Pettine can’t handle that it’s problems.

The D need to front up big time......will be a very interesting game to see if the Packers can erase the rumours going around about the Chargers game.

The D weren't the problem in the Chargers game, though. They did well in the first half, and only really leaked in the second half by which point they'd spent far too much time on the field.

The offense scoring 3 pts total in the first 3 quarters, and getting blown off the field almost instantly repeatedly, was the main issue. No defense in the league could reliably win a game with that going on.

I'd have far more worries about the O-line leaking like a sieve again than the defense not performing. But hopefully thats overblown, its only the Panthers. The 49ers game in a couple of weeks on the other hand...

seiphil · 08-11-2019 1:55am

Blut2 wrote: »

The D weren't the problem in the Chargers game, though. They did well in the first half, and only really leaked in the second half by which point they'd spent far too much time on the field.

The offense scoring 3 pts total in the first 3 quarters, and getting blown off the field almost instantly repeatedly, was the main issue. No defense in the league could reliably win a game with that going on.

I'd have far more worries about the O-line leaking like a sieve again than the defense not performing. But hopefully thats overblown, its only the Panthers. The 49ers game in a couple of weeks on the other hand...

The D is a huge problem when they can't turn the ball over. They had some nice redzone stops but thats after being driven 90 yards time and time again.

Both sides of the ball stunk. Offense couldn't create any drives which gave the D no rest. The D left the offence is poor starting spots. But the D has been stinking since week 3. Think we are like 31st/32nd in yards against this season. That is terrible.

Brendan Bendar · 11-11-2019 1:51am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Yep, agree with most of that.

I wouldn’t throw too much shade on Kenny Clark, yes there are injuries but he also gets doubled a lot .
Got a good grade from PFF.
Agree he might need a rest but with a bye week coming won’t get it this week.

If Greg Olsen has a big day .....uhmmmmm bad things will happen.

Jimmy G ..... a fcuking oil tanker would turn quicker.

Anyway.... expecting a good win on Sunday

Almost did.....Rookie Qb...career yards..... Greg Olsen 97 yards.In Lambeau Field.

What does that tell you.

Packers tried to give it away....dodged one on the last play

Not impressive apart from the RBs

An experienced QB would cut that D apart.

seiphil · 11-11-2019 1:51am

Nice snowy finish to the game.

We made tough work out of that I feel. Much better than last week. Great game from Clark, more like his form earlier on in the season.

Offense needs more work and defense needs more work.

On to the needed ye week. 8-2!!!

raze_them_all_ · 11-11-2019 8:33am

Oddly kept cmc quiet. Some weird calls, the best player on offence, blocking when he prob should of got his hands on the ball in some big moments

cosatron · 11-11-2019 4:54pm

8-2 and not the finished article on offense and defence is a great place to be. Martinez lack of coverage ability is getting very worrying at this stage and doesn't seem to be much of thumper either. I think we really need to sure up the middle and maybe get another wideout before we can starting talking about superbowls.

Brendan Bendar · 11-11-2019 6:04pm

cosatron wrote: »

8-2 and not the finished article on offense and defence is a great place to be. Martinez lack of coverage ability is getting very worrying at this stage and doesn't seem to be much of thumper either. I think we really need to sure up the middle and maybe get another wideout before we can starting talking about superbowls.

I would suggest that we concentrate on even making the playoffs before we even think of Superbowls.

We have a way to go before we get to that stage.

Next game will answer quite a few questions I would suggest.

peejay1986 · 25-11-2019 4:53am

This is excruciating to watch. Can't get anything going, whatsoever.

raze_them_all_ · 25-11-2019 5:05am

Rodgers really needs to get off devote Adams dick. When he's on form he's great but when he's not on form he is absolutely garbage. No I between with them.

peejay1986 · 25-11-2019 5:49am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Rodgers really needs to get off devote Adams dick. When he's on form he's great but when he's not on form he is absolutely garbage. No I between with them.

I really didn't see that as the issue at all tonight. Moreso the play calling and lack of invention.

When we can't get the run game going we struggle massively to open up the field for passing. Couple that with our O-Line getting absolutely dominated, it meant we were hopeless from the off.

We desperately need more creativity in the passing game. I like how we're utilising the run more this year, but instead of complimenting the passing game, it really seems to be at the detriment of it.

Graham has to go. I just don't see what he's offering. You've Lewis there to block and then I'd much rather see Tonyan and (when he's ready to go) Sternberger get the snaps. The position is becoming more and more versatile in the league and we're so far behind on it.

On the receiver front, I just don't think the quality is there, bar Adams. MVS will offer a deep threat, but what else? Lazard is big and an interesting option, but we're very much becoming an easy team to read on passing.

So frustrating watching that tonight. We've easier games (on paper) coming up now before Minnesota and I'd love to see us try and work on some better schemes in preparations for the playoffs, because as things stand, we simply won't cut it.

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