Clongriffin - Parkedge

Gumbo · 29-05-2015 7:03pm

george507 wrote: »

Did you asked them to change the solar PV panel?

They will not be changed for a buyer. No developer will alter the internal plumbing and pipe work in a constructed house that will sell again tomorrow if the OP backs out.

Volthar · 29-05-2015 7:39pm

As it stands now I am ready to close the purchase with funds in place, home insurance and mortgage insurance sorted, issues on the snag list addressed. The only thing standing on my way is lack of Completion Certificate. I called KF again today to ask if there is any update and they claim "they know nothing", not even if application was made. They cannot tell me how long would it take and that she will update me next week. Not even an estimate. Buying shoes in Clarks is better customer service. I may sound bitter but when I was due to sign the contract KF called me every day asking for an update and made me believe that the fact that my solicitor had so many inquiries causes delay once this is sorted I will "get the keys" in couple of weeks.

On another hand a guy that assisted me during the inspections was very helpful and real nice person.

Oppybar · 30-05-2015 1:05pm

Volthar - that sounds incredibly frustrating! Thanks for the update and do let us know how you get on... it seems odd to me that they haven't applied for completion certs yet - do you think it is something to do with the finish still outstanding on the other side of the site? Hopefully they will do it soon!

I had a similar experience with KF and as soon as I signed, they became considerably less helpful:/

How long was there between you snagging and re-snagging? (No kids here, btw - but I'd be sure there'll be more with the proximity of park, schools etc. I surely expect to have a lot of kids as neighbours:))

Volthar · 30-05-2015 1:14pm

Oppybar - I did not know about the Completion Cert until kceire mentioned in an earlier post. It may have something to do with access to the other side of the development not finished yet or something with sewage as I have seen them digging up the road the other day. When I asked them a direct question about it I was totally ignored. Although houses built by Gannon seem to be really nice I will be warning future buyers to be careful dealing with their selling agent.

As the snag list did not have anything major/structural it took them less than 1 week to address the issues.

Which type of a house did you buy?

Oppybar · 30-05-2015 1:36pm

One of the smaller terrace houses, that back onto the semis? I think we met on the site one Sunday and had a chat about solar vs pv panels!

Volthar · 30-05-2015 4:24pm

Oppybar wrote: »

One of the smaller terrace houses, that back onto the semis? I think we met on the site one Sunday and had a chat about solar vs pv panels!

Was it you or someone else who told me they plan to adapt the attic straight away?

umatrangolo · 30-05-2015 7:28pm

Hi,

I'm thinking of buying a house in Clongriffin Parkedge new development.

I know that Gannon is the builder and that there is a plan to build a mosque near the place; was wondering what is the general feeling about this and if the area is a healthy one or we will face drug dealers and unpleasant people around.

Also, did anyone buy an house from Gannon in the area before? How are they in terms of build quality and finishing ?

Anyone here that lives there and could kindly provide some knowledge from inside the area ??

Thank you very much,
A prospect buyer in Clongriffin

Gumbo · 30-05-2015 7:51pm

Mod Edit - link to this thread removed

I've seen them up close and personal. I like them and if location works then I would recommend them.

Gumbo · 30-05-2015 7:53pm

Volthar wrote: »

Was it you or someone else who told me they plan to adapt the attic straight away?

Just be careful doing this guys.
They were designed as two storey houses so there's quite a bit of work to get them to 3 storey house standard with regards to complying with Part B of the building Regulations and it's ultimately why the builders don't do it from the start due to extra cost issues.

Volthar · 30-05-2015 8:22pm

kceire wrote: »

Just be careful doing this guys.
They were designed as two storey houses so there's quite a bit of work to get them to 3 storey house standard with regards to complying with Part B of the building Regulations and it's ultimately why the builders don't do it from the start due to extra cost issues.

I am not going to do it though I heard that if you plan to have it officially 3 storey you need to comply with several regulations incl. fire regulations and this involves lots of investment to the rest of the house. not to mention that our roofs are trussed and this by itself is an expensive makeover.

Volthar · 01-06-2015 11:49am

umatrangolo wrote: »

Anyone here that lives there and could kindly provide some knowledge from inside the area ??

I have just bought there so what I am about to tell you is not a first hand experience. However I know people who live there for couple of years already and general feedback is a positive one. Otherwise I would not be buying there. One thing I noticed cycling from Sutton to Clongriffin was some shattered glass and debris around Baldoyle. Also there are lots of families who moved there when the "old" Clongrifin was built circa 2005 and their kids are now teenagers so you can expect groups of youngsters strolling around.

McCalvin · 01-06-2015 11:59pm

umatrangolo wrote: »

Hi,
...
Also, did anyone buy an house from Gannon in the area before? How are they in terms of build quality and finishing ?

Anyone here that lives there and could kindly provide some knowledge from inside the area ??
...

As I mentioned a page back, I bought new in Beaupark and have been there since. Obviously the town never grew into what was intended; the gym, supermarket/mall etc. but we did get a DART station and the essentials are at our door step.

In terms of build quality, the houses on the square were built by Menolly who have come back and remediated the pyrite infill and re-finished all Congriffin houses in the last 5 years. Gannon did the same. So long-term, you've nothing to fear, the builders have a good history. And the re-finish was as new, there were snag items but nothing out of the ordinary.

I'm not sure it's still the same, but houses finished in Beaupark/earlier Clongriffin phases had all rooms wired with CAT5E, terminated in the hall. Very handy for a house LAN.

Oppybar · 02-06-2015 8:18pm

Volthar wrote: »

Was it you or someone else who told me they plan to adapt the attic straight away?

I'm not sure - I probably mentioned that I intend to get an engineer to look at what is involved fairly soon so that I have the information - but I don't plan on doing anything about it in the short term. There is enough to be doing with the fit out...my domesticity quota for this decade is exhausted already tbh!

As kceire mentioned already I'm told it is likely to be a nightmare job...

Volthar · 04-06-2015 11:17am

Anyone got a call from KF about a further delay?

Oppybar · 04-06-2015 12:40pm

I spoke to them yesterday V, they said that completion certs were delaying closings and they'd call me as soon as they had an estimated date? I'm not snagging until next Monday, but it seems that closing before month end is unlikely. Were you talking to them?

Gumbo · 04-06-2015 12:50pm

Oppybar wrote: »

I spoke to them yesterday V, they said that completion certs were delaying closings and they'd call me as soon as they had an estimated date? I'm not snagging until next Monday, but it seems that closing before month end is unlikely. Were you talking to them?

That means the delay is on the builder/Assigned Certifier end.

Oppybar · 04-06-2015 12:53pm

Yes, it sounded like that. They said they were waiting to hear from Gannon...

Volthar · 04-06-2015 4:39pm

Issues with land registry, will take 4-6 weeks to solve...

Gumbo · 04-06-2015 7:15pm

Some completion certs were lodged with DCC recently. I will update on Monday to those affected in this thread.

Gumbo · 08-06-2015 2:53pm

According to Localgov and BCMS system, Completion Certs lodged for :

17 Park Street
20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30 Dermot Street
18 King Street

Any of you guys own any of these ones?

Volthar · 08-06-2015 3:51pm

kceire wrote:

17 Park Street 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30 Dermot Street 18 King Street

These were finished in April. I wonder why they could not submit for the rest of the King Street.

Gumbo · 08-06-2015 4:54pm

Volthar wrote: »

These were finished in April. I wonder why they could not submit for the rest of the King Street.

They were not complete totally. Internally a lot of work was still required.
They are lodging the other certs for the remaining 20 in the next week or so I believe.

You have to remember that the Building Control Officer will request final BER certs and Air Tightness Test Results before accepting completion certs etc

Volthar · 08-06-2015 7:33pm

kceire wrote:

They are lodging the other certs for the remaining 20 in the next week or so I believe.

I hope this will be done soon. By the way the exact wording was "delay on closing due to administrative process with the land registry maps" can't figure what this means.

Thanks for your help clarifying things so far. Buying a new house is very stressful especially when it is buying from plans.

Oppybar · 08-06-2015 10:06pm

Thanks Kceire for the info. It seems as if there are two separate processes going on - Completion Certs and Land Reg. KF said the same to me Volthar - odd that there's a delay on the Land registry - it isn't unexpected that the Land Reg would take six weeks, it is hard to believe that they are finished on site in good time, but the paperwork is lagging behind!

Thanks all, for the info on this thread. Great to know i'm not the only one who is stressed!

Gumbo · 08-06-2015 10:12pm

Oppybar wrote: »

Thanks Kceire for the info. It seems as if there are two separate processes going on - Completion Certs and Land Reg. KF said the same to me Volthar - odd that there's a delay on the Land registry - it isn't unexpected that the Land Reg would take six weeks, it is hard to believe that they are finished on site in good time, but the paperwork is lagging behind!

Thanks all, for the info on this thread. Great to know i'm not the only one who is stressed!

Just to clarify they are not finished on site a good while, and in fairness to the builders they are ahead of schedule I believe. There was a lot on internal works, 2nd fixing for the PV etc and with the new Building Control Regulations, you can't nowadays build an estate and sell them one by one and let people move in one by one anymore.

The whole site has to be accessible and every house has to be 100% complete before applying for completion certificates.

Volthar · 08-06-2015 10:34pm

kceire wrote: »

[...] 2nd fixing for the PV [...]

I was there today and some houses now have 5 PVs while others are left with 3. Why would that be? Anyone knows?

Gumbo · 09-06-2015 12:19am

Volthar wrote: »

I was there today and some houses now have 5 PVs while others are left with 3. Why would that be? Anyone knows?

Some houses, in general,now, not just this specific site, due to orientation, solar gain, heat loss will require different amounts of renewables to achieve compliance with Part L.

Maybe one reason.

Oppybar · 09-06-2015 11:19am

kceire wrote: »

Just to clarify they are not finished on site a good while, and in fairness to the builders they are ahead of schedule I believe. QUOTE]

Absolutely - apologies - I wasn't entirely clear - I was making the point that the builders appear to be well on schedule to me, and the houses and site are in good shape. All my contact with Gannon has been helpful and professional overall tbh. It seems that the administration is lagging behind on a number of fronts - which may not be a Gannon issue at all!

It cannot be a surprise to anyone that Land Reg matters take six weeks - and I think that clear communication of this information to us, earlier in the process could have avoided some of the difficulty now, is all. From what I've seen of house buying in Ireland though - this isn't unusual at all...and I entirely take your point that the new Building Regs make it all more difficult to manage.

Volthar · 09-06-2015 2:17pm

I am not familiar with the admistrative process and hence my frustration may not be justified. Nevertheless I was led to belive that the house is ready with only a small delay (May instead of end of April) and once I sign the contract I will be asked to submit a snag list and then it will be ready for closing. Once I did my part it turned that there is a delay.

Gumbo · 09-06-2015 3:13pm

Oppybar wrote: »

kceire wrote: »

Just to clarify they are not finished on site a good while, and in fairness to the builders they are ahead of schedule I believe.

Absolutely - apologies - I wasn't entirely clear - I was making the point that the builders appear to be well on schedule to me, and the houses and site are in good shape. All my contact with Gannon has been helpful and professional overall tbh. It seems that the administration is lagging behind on a number of fronts - which may not be a Gannon issue at all!

It cannot be a surprise to anyone that Land Reg matters take six weeks - and I think that clear communication of this information to us, earlier in the process could have avoided some of the difficulty now, is all. From what I've seen of house buying in Ireland though - this isn't unusual at all...and I entirely take your point that the new Building Regs make it all more difficult to manage.

Volthar wrote: »

I am not familiar with the admistrative process and hence my frustration may not be justified. Nevertheless I was led to belive that the house is ready with only a small delay (May instead of end of April) and once I sign the contract I will be asked to submit a snag list and then it will be ready for closing. Once I did my part it turned that there is a delay.

Guys, just to be clear, i dont work for the Builders, Gannon or anybody else in relation to this project.

I dont benefit from anything in relation to the site and as Volthar already knows from previous PM's, i just have access to the site from another avenue. i am just passing on the info at my hand to prospective owners, and i hope i dont offend anyone in that process, if i help in any way, thats what i am aiming for.

Just to let you know that you dont have to apolagise to me or anything

Have you guys got your BER Certs or Air Tightness Test results or anything?

Best of Luck

Volthar · 09-06-2015 3:45pm

kceire wrote:

Have you guys got your BER Certs or Air Tightness Test results or anything?

None of these yet but I will ask them.
You are very helpful. Thank you. Without your input here I would not know about regulations and such.

Gumbo · 09-06-2015 4:01pm

Volthar wrote: »

None of these yet but I will ask them.
You are very helpful. Thank you. Without your input here I would not know about regulations and such.

PM me your new house address and an email adress

Volthar · 09-06-2015 4:59pm

kceire wrote:

PM me your new house address and an email adress

Done

Volthar · 10-06-2015 4:19pm

Hi All,

While we all are waiting for the keys it is about time to think about floors, appliances, etc. How about sharing our ideas?

I am not sure how it is done in other houses but all semi-detached only have tiles in half of the kitchen. I asked builders and they will be able to supply same type of tiles so I can tile the rest of the kitchen/diner floor and have an uniform look just like in the show house. I haven't decided yet as laminate/wooden floors are nicer to walk on. Same tiles could be used in the hall.

As for downstairs I like this color:
http://www.floordesign.ie/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/594_GRDwel-242x300.jpg

It will also work in hall and the dining area of the kitchen.

Walls: I will leave it as is, gray-ish white for a while. Maybe add some graphics to kids bedrooms.

Stairs: carpets for comfort and safety (kids).

Upstairs: here is main argument between myself and my wife. I would like carpets in bedrooms, she would prefer off-white laminate like this:
http://www.floordesign.ie/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/579_MAG-244x300.jpg and a deep fluffy rug

For stairs I have checked prices with Raheny Carpets and Carpet Right. Pretty much same price. Both tried to sell me beads to go along the skirting boards but I hate the look of it and insisted they will remove skirting boards and put them back. Worst case scenario I will have to repaint walls... I also have a recommended carpenter from Drogheda who will visit the place next week to measure and price it for me. I will let you know how it went.

Furniture: we will likely start with a chaotic mixture of what we already own with some cheap stuff from IKEA

Appliances: madster pointed me to appliancesdirect.co.uk
good prices and delivery/installation options.

Back garden: I have no idea what to do with it. They are in general small. As it is now - lawn -I have to buy a lawnmower which leads to having a storage shed that will further reduce the area. Going "low maintenance" = gravel and does not look great. Any ideas?

Finally, I must add that I am horrible if it comes to choosing colors and decor in general. I have a duplex apartment that I am letting (abroad) and while ago I painted kitchen pistachio green and staircase wall in burgundy... looks horrible but I thought it will be "class" he he he. Sadly I cannot afford professional designer.

Oppybar · 14-06-2015 8:50am

Great idea V!

I'm tiling the downstairs as the front of the house is north-facing and I want to catch as much light as possible with a light coloured tile. I'm currently pricing tiles in a range of places. Didn't find what I wanted in Tile Style, found it in nationwide...I'm also finding it hard to decide what exactly I want to live with!

On appliances - I've ordered the kitchen things and have asked Cawley's to add an island - I thought a lot of the kitchens don't actually have much cooking space.

On blinds - I'm going with Alpine blinds, I found them reasonably priced, really helpful to deal with and they had a lovely selection. I hope to get them in to measure over the next few weeks.

Like you, on furniture, there'll be a mix at the beginning - IKEA is very close by and handy:)

Carpet - I'm carpeting stairs and the entire upstairs. I've checked out a few places and I am hoping to get someone in to measure - your skirting board point is a good one, I'll bear it in mind! I haven't been offered beads yet - sounds hideous!

Garden, I think mine is large enough for a shed and I'm thinking about a metal shed in the long run. I've had someone look at the grass and the recommendation is to add topsoil if you are thinking of keeping grass and/or want anything to grow. I had thought of paving / decking alternatives - but don't plan on making any garden decisions other than topsoil and re-seeding the lawn until next summer. There are too many decisions altogether...

btw - a friend told me that some people have moved into the 3 storey houses. it's reassuring that they have got through this seemingly endless process, at least! Hopefully the rest will be sorted by August;) Have you talked to KF and your solicitor about an insurance waiver so that you can decorate pre-completion? I think Gannon are considering that due to the delay - which might help your timeline!

Good luck!

Volthar · 14-06-2015 1:23pm

Oppybar wrote:

Have you talked to KF and your solicitor about an insurance waiver so that you can decorate pre-completion? I think Gannon are considering that due to the delay - which might help your timeline!

Thanks. I am still waiting for templates. I want to be sure what I will sign will not affect my other rights.

madster · 14-06-2015 9:00pm

btw - a friend told me that some people have moved into the 3 storey houses. it's reassuring that they have got through this seemingly endless process, at least! Hopefully the rest will be sorted by August;) Have you talked to KF and your solicitor about an insurance waiver so that you can decorate pre-completion? I think Gannon are considering that due to the delay - which might help your timeline!

I am waiting for one of the 3 storey houses too.. and I got the 4 to 6 weeks delay... Is your friend a reliable source? ^ ^

Volthar · 14-06-2015 9:50pm

madster wrote: »

I am waiting for one of the 3 storey houses too.. and I got the 4 to 6 weeks delay... Is your friend a reliable source? ^ ^

I cycled there this evening and indeed one of the 3 storey houses, second from the left as I remember, seems inhabited already, flowers in windows, parked car etc. This is getting quite bizarre. I think you should call KF and ask them what is going on.

Gumbo · 16-06-2015 10:20am

Completion Certificates have been placed on the Public Register for this development now so this would allow the properties to be occupied at this stage.

Oppybar · 24-06-2015 11:55am

kceire wrote: »

Completion Certificates have been placed on the Public Register for this development now so this would allow the properties to be occupied at this stage.

Hey Kceire - can you let me know where I might find the public register? I'm still being informed that the delay is due to completion certificates....and if I could locate them, this would be of great help!

Volthar · 24-06-2015 12:07pm

I was told it is due to process Land Register maps. In the meantime they cannot answer why someone has already moved in to one house while a buyer next door was told there is a delay.

Volthar · 27-06-2015 10:31am

New stage called Belltree will be launched soon. See belltree.ie
Selling agent will be Sherryfitz this time. I hope with more houses being built around the shopping center will also open soon.

Gumbo · 27-06-2015 11:17am

Volthar wrote: »

New stage called Belltree will be launched soon. See belltree.ie
Selling agent will be Sherryfitz this time. I hope with more houses being built around the shopping center will also open soon.

They have already commenced on site.
4 houses currently under construction with a further 26 due to start in the coming weeks.

With regards to the shopping centre, is that the space down in Block 12?
If so it's an empty shell currently but as you say, if more homes appear and along with the new nursing home beside parkedge/belltree, it may happen.

Gumbo · 27-06-2015 11:18am

Oppybar wrote: »

Hey Kceire - can you let me know where I might find the public register? I'm still being informed that the delay is due to completion certificates....and if I could locate them, this would be of great help!

I'll try route it out on Monday but as Marcin says, the delay is not a council completion cert now. It's most likely a Land Registry issue.

Volthar · 27-06-2015 2:32pm

I do not know the block number but it is right next to the Dart station. I have seen trucks there and a builder told me they are fitting out a fitness club.

Also more people are moving in to houses on Dermott St. and Park Ave.

Gumbo · 27-06-2015 3:40pm

Volthar wrote: »

I do not know the block number but it is right next to the Dart station. I have seen trucks there and a builder told me they are fitting out a fitness club.

Also more people are moving in to houses on Dermott St. and Park Ave.

Agh the gym is a different block alright. I'm not involved in that one though.

vonbarracuda · 27-06-2015 3:49pm

Is Belltree that timber framed structure they are building or is that the nursing home? Surprised to see timber frame after all the bad press it got last few years

Gumbo · 27-06-2015 4:20pm

vonbarracuda wrote: »

Is Belltree that timber framed structure they are building or is that the nursing home? Surprised to see timber frame after all the bad press it got last few years

There's actually nothing wrong with timber frame once it's constructed properly.
Heat retention levels can be greater than traditional builds but as always particular attention to detail with regards to fire separation between dwelling should be exercised.

But yes that's belltree under construction now, the nursing home hasn't started yet.

Oppybar · 29-06-2015 8:19am

kceire wrote: »

I'll try route it out on Monday but as Marcin says, the delay is not a council completion cert now. It's most likely a Land Registry issue.

Thanks! I'd really appreciate that - as the developer's solicitors are telling me that the Land Reg issue is sorted but they are waiting for compliance certs, it would be very helpful if I could point to publicly available certs to help clarify...

Oppybar · 29-06-2015 8:25am

vonbarracuda wrote: »

Is Belltree that timber framed structure they are building or is that the nursing home? Surprised to see timber frame after all the bad press it got last few years

According to the original plans, the nursing home is to be over on the corner of park row and park avenue. So directly facing the end of the 3-storey row and the first couple of terraced houses on park row.

Clongriffin - Parkedge

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