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Railway in Navan

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    #32
    Nostradamus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Nostradamus


    DWCommuter wrote: »
    It could be worse than it is now. It could be better. Who knows?


    I am willing to bet it will actually be much worse. The USA economy is living off paper money printed out of thin air with nothing to back it up except massive inflationary cycles in the years to come.

    Most of our foreign investment is from the USA - dollar is worthless now.
    We have almost no national economy of our own - building houses was not a sound economic development the geniuses have finally figured out
    The Euro is rocketing in value - too expensive for British and American multinationals to remain here
    We have a Government who are only interested in getting a YES to Lisbon vote and nothing else - we would be better off if we were out of the EU and had control over our own currency and interest rates again
    Our old reliable; tourism, is ruin thanks to all the half-built mansions which have destroyed the countryside.


    Add all the above coupled with energy insecurity, global poltical issues and Gombeen Stroke Poltics and excuse me for being pessimistic but we are looked F'd-in-the-A for a VERY long time.


    I am simply amazed when the likes of Cowan, ERSI, George Lee etc talk about "economic activity picking up in 2010" - which is about as reality based as an double amputee expecting to score the wining goal in the next World Cup Finals and win the Tour De France at halftime.

    Things are shocking bad out there and we have only just started to collaspe.

    Rail to Navan in 2015? Maybe if Dempsey's buys his kid a Hornby train set.


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    #33
    DWCommuter
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    Interestingly, Cowen said today that he expects the deficit to be even greater in 2010. Considering this Governments financial predictions thus far I take that to mean they will be disasterous and unprecedented. But one wonders when they will be honest enough to own up re rail projects, so we can at least get the small incremental projects like the PPT and look again at routing trains to Navan via Drogheda. It would be a huge tragedy if we got absolutely nothing out of all this. So far (excluding the daft wrc)the rail and luas projects have been driven by property development and not areas of dire need. The single most impressive plan (Midleton) did everything by the book and waited nearly 30 years for a green light. The WRC comes from a background of false social injustice claims, whinging, moaning and diatribe of the higest contradictory order.

    Rail plans in this country have been shrouded in lies, deceit, complacency, political interference and skullduggery. Plain and simple.


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    #34
    Nostradamus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Nostradamus


    DWCommuter wrote: »

    Rail plans in this country have been shrouded in lies, deceit, complacency, political interference and skullduggery. Plain and simple.



    You should write a book on Irish Railway History from a reality based standpoint and what you wrote above should be the foreword. Becuase that is the absolute truth beyond a showdow of a doubt.


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    #35
    SeanW
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    +1 to both of the above.

    There is a nice thread on Rail Users Ireland explaining all the crap surrounding the Navan railway alignment and many of the obstacles recently built on it, unfortunately that thread is in the private section. Summary for Fender543: The Dunboyne-Navan railway will not happen in the next 10 years, maybe not even 20 or further. FF has been promising the Navan Line since they came to power in '97, it was a pack of lies then and it's a pack of lies now.


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    #36
    DWCommuter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    SeanW wrote: »
    +1 to both of the above.

    There is a nice thread on Rail Users Ireland explaining all the crap surrounding the Navan railway alignment and many of the obstacles recently built on it, unfortunately that thread is in the private section. Summary for Fender543: The Dunboyne-Navan railway will not happen in the next 10 years, maybe not even 20 or further. FF has been promising the Navan Line since they came to power in '97, it was a pack of lies then and it's a pack of lies now.

    Sean, a similar thread is also available here with photos of the obstacles. Ive made sure that its as well documented as possible.


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    #37
    Banjoxed
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    Fender543 wrote: »
    I'm from Navan and have been keeping an eye on the regional development plan here for years. The exciting parts are the Regional Hospital planned for Either Tara Mines site or a site near Balresk 1 mile outside Navan. The planned date for the start on the hospital is Spring 09, when finished it will have a work force of 2500, Quinn Insurance is opening its office in Navan in June 09, 800 will be employed. Also with this Rail link into Navan, planned for 2015. Things have started to look up for Navan. Motor Way open in 2010. About time we have some work in Navan.

    Must have missed the rail link. And the Regional Hospital. How's the Quinn Insurance thing as well?

    What goodies promised now in the East will never materialise in any of our lifetimes, and why are voters so bloody gullible? However Dempsey delivered all right - a gigantic outdoor relief scheme that needs shadow tolls. Nice one for the landowners though.


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    #38
    Infini
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    Banjoxed wrote: »
    Must have missed the rail link. And the Regional Hospital. How's the Quinn Insurance thing as well?

    What goodies promised now in the East will never materialise in any of our lifetimes, and why are voters so bloody gullible? However Dempsey delivered all right - a gigantic outdoor relief scheme that needs shadow tolls. Nice one for the landowners though.

    Uhh...... nice 7 year old necro bump! :P


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    BuffyBot
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 24,924 Mod ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    zombie thread


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