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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    mzungu wrote: »
    I dunno Pete. Do you mean that the vast majority of folks out there in the burbs have settled for lack of better offers? I am not disputing that there are a hell of a lot of ramshack unions out there, plenty in fact. However, when George Clooney or Brad Pitt, or whomever the hunk du jour is, I am sure they fantasize about women that are not their OH. In that sense, would they not be settling too, even though they would be at the top of the gene pool looks wise?

    Well, I'm only really using the word 'settled' because the OP used it, but what I mean is that people make their choices based on what choices are available to them and for most people what is 'available to them' is not their ideal (physically speaking at least). I don't mean that the majority of people who find themselves settled down have all gone 'Ah fcuk it, you'll do' at some point but in general unattractive people don't tend to do very well with attractive people. You'll always get the odd Julia Roberts / Lyle Lovett type combos of course, but then money is a great leveller. Jay Z wouldn't be getting anywhere near Beyoncé if he was working at Popeyes.

    The fact that some people do end up with partners who are way better looking than them is more than enough reason to try for that person though. I certainly don't think anyone should let the fact that they weren't aesthetically blessed put them off doing so. Go for it, life's too short not to, we only go round once., best of luck and all that, but chances are they'll end up with a 'Nah you're grand'.. at best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I was somewhat joking, but come on, of course people are more physically attracted to attractive people than unattractive ones. The OP mentions fat people but the title of the thread is standards and so I feel they are in fact speaking more broadly than it appears.

    The way I see it is that it's extremely naïve to think that people who are 'not exactly models', just also happen to fancy other people who also are 'not exactly models'. Of course they are settling. Would be a mad coincidence otherwise, don't you think. There'll always be exceptions of course. Have a neighbour who is defiantly punching above his weight for example, but by and large (excuse the pun) like tends to end up living in the suburbs with like... whacking off to better looking people when they get the house to themselves.

    It might be my age speaking, but I never really found myself attracted to people who are considered attractive by general consensus - not the guy in class many of the girls were hot for, not Brad Pitt, not George Clooney, they just honest to goodness never did anything for me.
    Same with the ladies, too. I would not generally be attracted to the slim ones considered beautiful.
    In fact, I've got an extremely hard time sometimes telling people considered to be beautiful apart, they look very much the same to me quite often.

    That's not saying I don't like beauty, far from it. I just seem to see it in other things and other people than the majority.
    As such, I love women with really full curves. And I like men that are "chubby" (for lack of a better word) - for me it's the distribution of weight and how it makes the person look overall. But I would rarely if ever go for anyone slim. And never for anyone considered athletic.

    Funnily enough, the same is true with my taste in cars. I find any kind of sporty car extremely ugly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Kev_2012


    Standards are for virgins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ( or beer-holder as the joke goes :D )
    That's not so much true. There are known formulas and ratios that are aesthetically pleasing to people, they're fundamentals that don't preclude fat people. Just think of babies, fat little feckers that own cute. It's a matter of preference after that.
    beks101 wrote: »
    Isn't there a study knocking about somewhere about how people tend to couple up with others of similar body fat to them? Sure I read something to that effect once.
    I remember hearing or reading something about most people choosing people that have similar features to them. If you look at couples you'll see some that could pass for brother and sister they look so similar. Other times the similarities are much more subtle. It was making out that we're all narcissists.

    Of course in humans physical beauty and fitness aren't essential. A king could be fat and useless and still be attractive because of the lifestyle they can provide. There are so many variables in human society that all you can do is talk in generalities and statistical likelihoods. There are no hard and fast rules, each person's experiences will affect what they find attractive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I just seem to see it in other things and other people than the majority.

    I hear ya, but it's the majority I was talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭nkav86


    Large people are naturally attracted to each other because in the event of a food shortage they can eat each other.

    cython wrote:
    They also exert larger gravitational fields by virtue of their masses, and the complementary effect of two gravity wells is what draws them together.....


    As a fat person, I find these hilarious!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I hear ya, but it's the majority I was talking about.

    The majority of fat, unattractive people? ;)


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