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Who thinks winter 2011/2012 will be even colder than the last 2?
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Points taken. Older houses not set up for the cold and the older generation might find it tougher, although some of the older people I know might disagree with me, some are fantastically tough as nails!
If these harsher winters did become the norm, then proper support would be needed to help the more vulnerable in our society to adapt, but that's another long debate!
A lot of it is about heat management isn't it, I was sitting there last winter and if I did feel cold I'd automatically say put the heat back on, the wife would look at me and say, "Am, that's because you're sitting there in a light t-shirt, it is winter you know, go put on a jumper or a cardigan!"
In my opinion, I think it simply comes down to whether you're a winter person or not. How you define a "winter person" I'm not sure exactly, but if you like the good things about winter, you'll put up with or work around about the bad things, if you're not a winter person, the bad things seem multiplied tenfold, and it's very hard to draw any joy from the good things... to each their own of course and I respect that, but I know which camp I'm in! 0 -
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vote on what you actually think this winter will be like! not what you want it to be like!i bet most of you who are saying you think this winter will be mild just want it to be mild but you actually do think it could be cold. what reason is there for it to be mild. the last 4 winters in uk and ireland have gotten progressively worse so why wouldnt next year be the same, and with so many forecasters predicting cold weather next winter and cus of jet stream,low solar activity one would think there is definitely a higher chance of a cold winter next year! I genuinely beleive that next winter will be worse than the last and ill be seriously depressed if i dont see A LOT OF SNOW:D
Ha, ha.. I love your optimism, but even the Maunder and Dalton minimums had some milder winters! We just have to remember that nothing is a given, and even though signs might point towards a colder set up, it equally wouldn't totally surprise me if it there was a massive heatwave over the Christmas holidays and we were all outside on sun loungers sipping pina coladas with our turkey dinners!
Weather can be crazy and unpredictable, and sometimes when it looks like it'll definitely swing one way, it goes the other... but that's what I love about it!0 -
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No reason atm to suspect a harsh winter is coming for the 3rd year in a row. It is impossible to forecast this far out. In fact going on probability alone that we would have a 3rd successively harshly cold Winter would mean it is highly unlikely. Still id have said the same about last Winter too. Worth remembering that from Christmas day throughout Jan and Feb it was mostly on the mild side and wet. I wonder will that trend simply continue. I think it might!
Remember this from last November
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Spot on post...I read LRFs but to take them seriously? Never. Better to follow the weather on a day by day basis
Aye Long range as in 6 months is a bit over the top but MTs winter forecast last year was pretty spot on.
Personally I think we have a good chance of getting another cold hard winter, just another gut feeling.
The world is pretty messed up weather wise and Im sure we will get very cold winters in the future. Our winds seem to come from the North a lot more than usual recently. 0 -
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Aye Long range as in 6 months is a bit over the top but MTs winter forecast last year was pretty spot on.
Personally I think we have a good chance of getting another cold hard winter, just another gut feeling. The world is pretty messed up weather wise and Im sure we will get very cold winters in the future. Our winds seem to come from the North a lot more than usual recently.
M.T. had the first 6 or 7 weeks of his forecast spot on, but after that it was fairly off. Even M.T. doesn't get long range ones right over 2 months!!!0 -
thetonynator wrote: »M.T. had the first 6 or 7 weeks of his forecast spot on, but after that it was fairly off. Even M.T. doesn't get long range ones right over 2 months!!!
I think every Long Range forecast was wrong after December...Nearly every single one went for the Mid-January Freeze, then it was the end of January, then the beginning/middle of Febuary and we ended up nothing. There may have been one LRF that didn't buy another cold spell after December, but I can't pick a name, otherwise, the Models were a b*tch to anyone who even tried to predict a pattern.
My answer to the thread? Will it be colder than 10/11? Overall for the duration of winter, I say yes. People brand last "winter" as cold, but on a whole it wasn't. The last week of Novemeber and most of December were brutally cold and snowy, but after that, yeah, I sadly didn't see another flake, barely another frost. Though, In terms of minimum temps, December '10 will be tough to beat.
Will it be colder than 09/10? I'm not sure, for the duration of that Winter, there was countless periods of snow, I believe in my log I reached nearly 20 days of snow falling or more, I can't remeber the specifics and I'm not rooting for it, (with more in March but that's not Winter.) It will be tough to beat that Winter in terms of Cold over each Winter Month.
I see this Winter either being spectacular, with similar snow events in terms of depths, or else, it will fail miserabley and we'll be saying hello to 2007 or so. I'll be looking for Northern blocking to be returning in October, similar to last year, once the signs are there that heights are able to rise up North, signs for Winter could be good.0 -
No reason atm to suspect a harsh winter is coming for the 3rd year in a row. It is impossible to forecast this far out. In fact going on probability alone that we would have a 3rd successively harshly cold Winter would mean it is highly unlikely. Still id have said the same about last Winter too. Worth remembering that from Christmas day throughout Jan and Feb it was mostly on the mild side and wet. I wonder will that trend simply continue. I think it might!
Remember this from last November
Hey Darkman,
Good to see you back on the boards - winter must be only around the corner now
During the winter , I find your posts some of the most entertaining and interesting so long may they continue!
However, I think you might be deliberately playing things down in the above post....we all know you are a snow monster like the vast majority of us!! 0 -
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For those of us in the north, undoubtedly my favourite day of last winter!
I know nothing about how to make a long range forecast but simply going by probability its unlikely that we'll have another severely cold winter but then I thought the same of last winter and it proved unfounded. Nobody can do more than give an educated guess at this stage really0 -
MABS will tell you that utility heating bills were huge last Winter. It takes a great deal more energy to maintain a reasonable temperature when it's -10c outside unless your home is well insulated. If you then add in all the costs due to transport problems etc a cold winter will be a nightmare.
during the last winter we spent our time in an apartment in clondalkin in the middle of the snow and all and the apartment had no heating at all because your man was a cheap skate but we were still able to walk around in just t-shirts and slacks not a bother.... i remember christmas week there were 4 of us sitting in the living room and we actually opened the door to the balcony cos it was a bit warm :pac:
anyway i cant fecking wait for the snow
i was actually on youtube the other day looking at all the videos from last year and the start of this year and im soo excited now 0 -
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Speaking of Shower trains or tracks I just hope this and variations of it doesn't happen to Bray again this year
IIRC Bray had an hour or two of decent snowfall 2 or 3 times during the hole 5 week period. The fact that we accumulated at most 4-5 inches down the seafront was down to temps and the slow thaw in the intervening periods. Its a long time since we even got that and while I did appreciate it, I couldn't help but feel robbed. That 5 inches from those few showers merely showed the accumulation potential had we not been in the gaps between streamers, IOM shadow, Anglesey Shadow from the depression pictured above or the Wicklow/Dublin Mountain shadow for the frontal snow from the west.0 -
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Snow sounds grand though, i reckon we'll get what we want lads Advertisement