Green Bay Packers Thread

Brendan Bendar · 14-01-2020 10:10am

Blut2 wrote: »

Garoppolo's lack of running game is the big reason I'd have some optimism for next weekend. The defense should be able to both sack him a few times and make some good stops.

It'll just come down to if Rodgers and the offense can actually get things going and get some scores. If only we could clone Davante and have a second top tier WR for Rodgers to target...

I have some optimism too, but I feel George Kittle will be the biggest threat.

Our running game has slowed up a bit and Bosa will make it more difficult.

Hopefully the ‘virus’ in the camp will have run through and all are fully fit.

Must limit these ‘ten yards a pop’ drives that Wilson was allowed to complete almost undefended.

Difficult but by no means impossible is my take on the game.

Think Titans....

pedatron · 14-01-2020 10:24am

I'm actually much more hopeful than I was a week or two ago. I just think we might just rise to the challenge. Jimmy G is in unchartered territory now as a QB1 and if the Packers can get in his face and slow their run I think we have a chance. Rodgers definitely feeling himself more now after that game. We need a lot of stuff to go in our favour but it's definitely not impossible!

Jofspring · 19-01-2020 9:05pm

Only a few hours to go. Really hope Rodgers can come up with some magic but it just feels like it's the 49ers year to be in the Superbowl. They have a serious team all over the park. Can see Kittle doing serious damage to us.

In saying that I'm going for an optimistic GB 25-23 SF

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 20-01-2020 1:38am

Slicing punt and dropped snap. Packers were already up against it, jesus.

raze_them_all_ · 20-01-2020 1:56am

Well that's a bigger stomp than the regular season. If the packers don't make moves for offence in the offseason we can say goodbye to being relevant

Brendan Bendar · 20-01-2020 8:41am

Bit of a nightmare , anything that could go wrong ,did.

Not unexpected though, a lot of work to be done in the off season especially on offense.

GBPackers · 20-01-2020 12:38pm

The team exceeded everybody's expectations!
They were the most One-And-Done looking team in the Play-Offs and yet managed to get into the NFC Conference Championship game.
That is not too shabby for a team without star players (ARod excepted).

Insofar as ARod, i see he finished 6th in QBR this year which is not bad while having an off year.
But questions remain about his longevity, time will tell as it always does.

Really have to relish those rare seasons whereby we beat both the Vikings and Bears twice!
Could you imagine had it been Vikings in place of Seahawks in the Division PlayOff game at Lambeau?
What.A.Pity!

Oh to have beaten the Vikings 3x in the same season, sending them home to sulk.
Would have put the entire state of MINN into a year long depression.

Blut2 · 20-01-2020 12:50pm

I gave up at half time and went to bed. That was fairly painful to watch, the much much better team won easily.

Heavy investment in the offense needed next season now, if Rodgers' performance continues to drop theres very much a ticking clock on the time left to make him count.

Brendan Bendar · 20-01-2020 1:17pm

Blut2 wrote: »

I gave up at half time and went to bed. That was fairly painful to watch, the much much better team won easily.

Heavy investment in the offense needed next season now, if Rodgers' performance continues to drop theres very much a ticking clock on the time left to make him count.

Yes exactly as I did..... forget about the second half performance, SF had the game won and were not going to risk injury two weeks before the SB.

Well beaten by a much livelier better balanced team.

That said: Great season to get so far, always guessed they couldn’t go the full way, but congrats to all, that with a newish GM a new HC they got as far as they did and laid the foundations for the future.

Lot of work to do in the off season especially offense, and despite a lot of hype the D is far from the finished article... still way too many big gouging plays both air and ground especially down the middle.

However...... 13-3 regular season, only a right sourpuss would complain about that:o

raze_them_all_ · 20-01-2020 1:59pm

We didn't deserve a 13-3 season if we are being honest. We didn't play like a 13-3 team. Other teams beat themselves for us.

Rodgers fumbled the ball 3 times last night and threw two picks. Worst ball security from him I can remember.

raze_them_all_ · 20-01-2020 2:01pm

Also this year or next year packers should draft the next qb, and sit him behind ar for 2 years or so

Brendan Bendar · 20-01-2020 5:22pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Also this year or next year packers should draft the next qb, and sit him behind ar for 2 years or so

Unfortunately won’t have a very high pick.

Do you not rate Boyle?

cosatron · 20-01-2020 5:32pm

The better team won who will beat the chiefs handy enough, that defensive line is something else, 5 first round picks. To come from where we were last year is a great achievement and to take the next step will be huge. Allot of holes to be plugged, I think we need a player in each position group to be honest but im optimistic about what we can achieve with lefluer. shanahan is in his 3rd year with 49ers and has fully implemented the offence, I think this is the type of offence we will be moving towards.

raze_them_all_ · 20-01-2020 6:30pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Unfortunately won’t have a very high pick.

Do you not rate Boyle?

The packers have drafted two good qbs in about 25 years. We are utterly spoiled with favre then Rodgers. Look at every qb they picked up since.

I just think the scouts got by easily due to the qbs we had that they elevate talent. For the most part we haven't drafted well... Or more specifically our draft picks do ****e with us, leave then become first team all pros

Blut2 · 20-01-2020 8:23pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Also this year or next year packers should draft the next qb, and sit him behind ar for 2 years or so

Next year Rodgers should hopefully still be playing well enough for a potential last "win now" attempt year. I'd prioritize putting some more weapons around him through both drafting and FA.

Come 2021 though then I'd definitely be thinking its time to settle down for a rebuild. Trade some picks/players to get a high pick to bring in a top tier new QB, have him learn under Rodgers for a season or two, and go from there.

raze_them_all_ · 20-01-2020 11:05pm

Maybe I'm just disaluioned, two hif qbs in a row and only 2sb's

Brendan Bendar · 21-01-2020 7:45am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Maybe I'm just disaluioned, two hif qbs in a row and only 2sb's

QBs alone can’t win Super Bowls.

Unfortunately Packers teams didn’t match up.

Let’s look forward......learn how to stop the run.

That would be a good start.

raze_them_all_ · 21-01-2020 9:16am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

QBs alone can’t win Super Bowls.

Unfortunately Packers teams didn’t match up.

Let’s look forward......learn how to stop the run.

That would be a good start.

Oh I know but my point is it's highly unlikely we will draft a third hof qb in a row so can look forward to some mediocrity

Brendan Bendar · 21-01-2020 10:08am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Oh I know but my point is it's highly unlikely we will draft a third hof qb in a row so can look forward to some mediocrity

Indeed indeed, that’s perfectly correct,we got ‘lucky’ twice when others went through 7 or 8 .

Now, is it me or does anyone think Rodgers is very ‘dull looking’ in demeanor and interaction this season.

Compared to the other QBs GB have played he seems very ‘hangdog’ on the field and on the sidelines.

I studied Garropolo and he was bouncing around on the field and on the sidelines, interacting with his teammates and even seeming to be enjoying himself, pumping up the team who also seemed a lot more lively than GB.

My point would be that this kind of demeanor could seep into the team and even the Smiths couldn’t rise the energy levels.

The same with Mahomes, smiling and seeming to be full of energy.

The contrast between those two and Rodgers is quite stark....

Maybe it’s just me.........

raze_them_all_ · 21-01-2020 10:52am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Indeed indeed, that’s perfectly correct,we got ‘lucky’ twice when others went through 7 or 8 .

Now, is it me or does anyone think Rodgers is very ‘dull looking’ in demeanor and interaction this season.

Compared to the other QBs GB have played he seems very ‘hangdog’ on the field and on the sidelines.

I studied Garropolo and he was bouncing around on the field and on the sidelines, interacting with his teammates and even seeming to be enjoying himself, pumping up the team who also seemed a lot more lively than GB.

My point would be that this kind of demeanor could seep into the team and even the Smiths couldn’t rise the energy levels.

The same with Mahomes, smiling and seeming to be full of energy.

The contrast between those two and Rodgers is quite stark....

Maybe it’s just me.........

I'd imagine there's a lot going on, spending your career getting smashed by opponents, being bored by a stale offence for years, carrying a team solo on your shoulders for years, knowing you are in decline and your sb window is closing quickly, compared to two boys on great teams with great pieces both sides of the ball just starting out

cosatron · 21-01-2020 11:03am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Maybe I'm just disaluioned, two hif qbs in a row and only 2sb's

I read someplace that in the Rodgers era the defence has given up 37 points or more in 8 playoff games.

cosatron · 21-01-2020 11:07am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Indeed indeed, that’s perfectly correct,we got ‘lucky’ twice when others went through 7 or 8 .

Now, is it me or does anyone think Rodgers is very ‘dull looking’ in demeanor and interaction this season.

Compared to the other QBs GB have played he seems very ‘hangdog’ on the field and on the sidelines.

I studied Garropolo and he was bouncing around on the field and on the sidelines, interacting with his teammates and even seeming to be enjoying himself, pumping up the team who also seemed a lot more lively than GB.

My point would be that this kind of demeanor could seep into the team and even the Smiths couldn’t rise the energy levels.

The same with Mahomes, smiling and seeming to be full of energy.

The contrast between those two and Rodgers is quite stark....

Maybe it’s just me.........

Rodgers freely admitted his not ra ra type of guy and leaves that to other players. I thought some of his throws on sunday were out of this world and it was like the vintage Rodgers. I thought he looked his best the last 2 games and hopefully he brings that into next year.

raze_them_all_ · 21-01-2020 11:09am

cosatron wrote: »

I read someplace that in the Rodgers era the defence has given up 37 points or more in 8 playoff games.

8 out of the 10 worst defensive performances came under Rodgers jn the franchise. Combined both halves vs 49rs this year we were outscored 50-0

cosatron · 21-01-2020 11:14am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

8 out of the 10 worst defensive performances came under Rodgers jn the franchise. Combined both halves vs 49rs this year we were outscored 50-0

what do you think of pettine, in 3 games against the 49ers we got ran over and made no adjustment at half time, is it coaching or lack of personel. the tackling in the first half was horrific.

Brendan Bendar · 21-01-2020 12:05pm

cosatron wrote: »

what do you think of pettine, in 3 games against the 49ers we got ran over and made no adjustment at half time, is it coaching or lack of personel. the tackling in the first half was horrific.

The jury is out in my judgement.......

All year long the Pack were getting gouged down the middle.

I’d love to see stats on how many players both D and O had ‘career days’ against the Packers.

The 9ers RB had four rushing TDs and nearly 200 yds rushing last Sunday!!

There would have to be questions asked after those numbers......

We are talking record numbers in NFC championships and up there in total playoff games ever played.

If that doesn’t ring a bell as big as the Liberty bell that something is wrong I don’t know what does.

Now I don’t want to get negative but.....all through the season one could see given the number of games won by one score hanging on that the current team wouldn’t handle the ‘good ‘ teams especially out of Lambeau.

The good bit is there is less to fix now and the current management seem to be more amenable to ‘making moves’

Next season should be very interesting.

raze_them_all_ · 22-01-2020 1:45am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

The jury is out in my judgement.......

All year long the Pack were getting gouged down the middle.

I’d love to see stats on how many players both D and O had ‘career days’ against the Packers.

The 9ers RB had four rushing TDs and nearly 200 yds rushing last Sunday!!

There would have to be questions asked after those numbers......

We are talking record numbers in NFC championships and up there in total playoff games ever played.

If that doesn’t ring a bell as big as the Liberty bell that something is wrong I don’t know what does.

Now I don’t want to get negative but.....all through the season one could see given the number of games won by one score hanging on that the current team wouldn’t handle the ‘good ‘ teams especially out of Lambeau.

The good bit is there is less to fix now and the current management seem to be more amenable to ‘making moves’

Next season should be very interesting.

Gave up over 200 yards to one rb, we gave up more total to the rush, 282 to be precise,. Stats wise though we shut down there passing game only 77 yards. Here's the thing Blake martinez is a tackling machine, but reactive, he tackles 10 yards down the field not mobile enough for the position as it is rn.

Our defence has the pieces if you get someone mobile in mlb.

49rs have some absolute studs on offence. And same for defence, packers have 3 on offence but if you shut down one you shut down all 3 weirdly

Brendan Bendar · 22-01-2020 8:19am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Gave up over 200 yards to one rb, we gave up more total to the rush, 282 to be precise,. Stats wise though we shut down there passing game only 77 yards. Here's the thing Blake martinez is a tackling machine, but reactive, he tackles 10 yards down the field not mobile enough for the position as it is rn.

Our defence has the pieces if you get someone mobile in mlb.

49rs have some absolute studs on offence. And same for defence, packers have 3 on offence but if you shut down one you shut down all 3 weirdly

Good synopsis, however one could argue that we didn’t ‘shut down ‘ their passing game as Jimmy G didn’t throw much given the runners were gouging us on practically every series.

Very low number of pass attempts.

I feel Blake is gone, great tackler as you say but too slow.

Interesting off season in store.

raze_them_all_ · 22-01-2020 4:24pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Good synopsis, however one could argue that we didn’t ‘shut down ‘ their passing game as Jimmy G didn’t throw much given the runners were gouging us on practically every series.

Very low number of pass attempts.

I feel Blake is gone, great tackler as you say but too slow.

Interesting off season in store.

Sorry sarcasm didn't come through. On the shutting them down part. He had only thrown 8 times until deep into the third quarter.

Spot in Caroline for martinez I'd say

Brendan Bendar · 22-01-2020 4:54pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Sorry sarcasm didn't come through. On the shutting them down part. He had only thrown 8 times until deep into the third quarter.

Spot in Caroline for martinez I'd say

Hopefully, he is a good guy, deserves a spot somewhere but Packers need someone faster in thought and legs in that position,plus another wide load beside Kenny Clark to give him a break.

boreder · 22-01-2020 6:46pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Stats wise though we shut down there passing game only 77 yards.

Eh, look again. Jimmy G was 6 of 8 for 77 yards. That is 9.6 yds per attempt. 12.8yrs per completion.

He didn't throw the ball because he didn't need to, but when he did, there was zero "shut down" going on.

Brendan Bendar · 22-01-2020 7:12pm

boreder wrote: »

Eh, look again. Jimmy G was 6 of 8 for 77 yards. That is 9.6 yds per attempt. 12.8yrs per completion.

He didn't throw the ball because he didn't need to, but when he did, there was zero "shut down" going on.

Read post #3529 dude

Brendan Bendar · 04-04-2020 9:44am

Who from the wide receiver corps are we going to ditch this season(if there is one)

Who would our principal receiver corps be.

1. Davante
2. Devin Funchess
3 Allan Lazard
4. MVS
5. ESB

Leaves Kumerow, Ervin, plus some I forget

Also TEs

Big Dog Lewis, Big Bob Tonyan, Sternberger, James Looney is in there, plus at least one other guy.

Who will come out no1 there.

Love do get Denzil Mimms in the draft at receiver.

Some food for thought.........

raze_them_all_ · 04-04-2020 2:32pm

Is mvs not gone to lions or was that the other chap?? Both are ****e anyway

Brendan Bendar · 04-04-2020 3:24pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Is mvs not gone to lions or was that the other chap?? Both are ****e anyway

Don’t think so ..Geronimo Allison is though, maybe that’s the one you are thinking about.

EBS is coming back after long injury, hoping for a big season from him.

They have three big bodies 6’4 and over, pity the fchuukers are inconsistent.

What’s your view on TE?

raze_them_all_ · 04-04-2020 3:42pm

Haven't had one since finlay, still dont

Brendan Bendar · 04-04-2020 3:44pm

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Haven't had one since finlay, still dont

Jared Cooke was a good one.Wouldnt pay him, they say.

Seem to have problems in that dept.

digzy · 05-04-2020 9:43am

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Jared Cooke was a good one.Wouldnt pay him, they say.

Seem to have problems in that dept.

Don’t think that’s what happened.
Pack made him an offer, he refused. Pack moved on ( think martellus Bennett) then he took less than pack had originally offered with the raiders.

Brendan Bendar · 05-04-2020 11:09am

digzy wrote: »

Don’t think that’s what happened.
Pack made him an offer, he refused. Pack moved on ( think martellus Bennett) then he took less than pack had originally offered with the raiders.

Ok.... that would probably figure..... Bennett really stiffed them,

Let’s hope we can finally sort out that position.

digzy · 05-04-2020 9:33pm

Bit concerned to see we’ve had some virtual meetings with qb S!! We need o line, lb and cb. Why waste a first round pick on someone who won’t play for at least 2 years

raze_them_all_ · 05-04-2020 10:33pm

Why don't we need a qb?? AR IS WHAT 36?GOING ON 37?Sitting a qb for a year or two is very beneficial, ar did it, Mahomes did it etc. Drafting a q because your franchise needs one right now is not smart. Drafting a good qb will cost you less than trwding/paying free agents in other pisitions

Realt Dearg Sec · 05-04-2020 10:54pm

digzy wrote: »

Bit concerned to see we’ve had some virtual meetings with qb S!! We need o line, lb and cb. Why waste a first round pick on someone who won’t play for at least 2 years

I wish ye took that approach back when ye decided to draft Rodgers. Was he a wasted pick?

digzy · 06-04-2020 12:14am

Rodgers has at most 3 seasons left in him. We have to go all in. There’s no guarantee a qb we draft at 30 will deliver. The playoff game showed our weaknesses. We’re not weak at qb....right now!

cosatron · 06-04-2020 10:23am

digzy wrote: »

Rodgers has at most 3 seasons left in him. We have to go all in. There’s no guarantee a qb we draft at 30 will deliver. The playoff game showed our weaknesses. We’re not weak at qb....right now!

If 1 of the top 5 qbs are still on the board at 30, I would be very disappointed if his not drafted. Looking at this years draft class, the wide outs is deep so we could pick up a good one in the second round, there are only 2 inside linebackers worth a first round pick and they will be gone, all the good right tackles will be off the board and we have a knack of turning 3rd/4th round lineman into to pro bowlers. D lineman would be nice but not essential. So in summary I think if Murray and queen are off the board, we will be drafting best player available.

raze_them_all_ · 06-04-2020 10:58am

cosatron wrote: »

If 1 of the top 5 qbs are still on the board at 30, I would be very disappointed if his not drafted. Looking at this years draft class, the wide outs is deep so we could pick up a good one in the second round, there are only 2 inside linebackers worth a first round pick and they will be gone, all the good right tackles will be off the board and we have a knack of turning 3rd/4th round lineman into to pro bowlers. D lineman would be nice but not essential. So in summary I think if Murray and queen are off the board, we will be drafting best player available.

We picked up a wr in off season, we need either a tight end or at least a first 2 round qb, I'm tired of seen us pick qbs up in round 4+ Tom Brady is Tom Brady, generally your qbs are pretty pointless after round 3 at most

digzy · 06-04-2020 9:34pm

cosatron wrote: »

If 1 of the top 5 qbs are still on the board at 30, I would be very disappointed if his not drafted. Looking at this years draft class, the wide outs is deep so we could pick up a good one in the second round, there are only 2 inside linebackers worth a first round pick and they will be gone, all the good right tackles will be off the board and we have a knack of turning 3rd/4th round lineman into to pro bowlers. D lineman would be nice but not essential. So in summary I think if Murray and queen are off the board, we will be drafting best player available.

What are the chances there’s a decent qb available at #30?
I don’t see the reason to go speculating on a qb ( Brett Huntley ffs) when we have a good one. Rodgers will qb for the next few seasons. Not giving one of the games greats a shot at a Super Bowl now is madness. Might as well trade him if we’re not ‘ all in’.

raze_them_all_ · 06-04-2020 10:03pm

digzy wrote: »

What are the chances there’s a decent qb available at #30?
I don’t see the reason to go speculating on a qb ( Brett Huntley ffs) when we have a good one. Rodgers will qb for the next few seasons. Not giving one of the games greats a shot at a Super Bowl now is madness. Might as well trade him if we’re not ‘ all in’.

We got a new wr, outside of the what do we need?? You can get linemen and that in lower rounds and they turn out pretty decent. We filled Blake martinez leaving

digzy · 07-04-2020 6:22am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

We got a new wr, outside of the what do we need?? You can get linemen and that in lower rounds and they turn out pretty decent. We filled Blake martinez leaving

We need an o lineman, an ilb and a cb.

raze_them_all_ · 07-04-2020 6:31am

digzy wrote: »

We need an o lineman, an ilb and a cb.

Signed kirksey in off season, will pick one up round 3 ish I'd image. Signed a lineman, can pick one up in round 4 and they should do, packers develop linemen super well. Cb is the only need I see, if it comes down to one the better qbs sliding down to us or a cb in round one I'll take a qb

digzy · 07-04-2020 6:37am

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Signed kirksey in off season, will pick one up round 3 ish I'd image. Signed a lineman, can pick one up in round 4 and they should do, packers develop linemen super well. Cb is the only need I see, if it comes down to one the better qbs sliding down to us or a cb in round one I'll take a qb

You’re missing the point. How does drafting a qb help us ‘win now’ ?

raze_them_all_ · 07-04-2020 8:55am

digzy wrote: »

You’re missing the point. How does drafting a qb help us ‘win now’ ?

I don't think the packers will win a sb with ar again. Too much needed to win now. You need a te, slot, new dl men, prob another lb prob another safety,. I'll take a drafted qb, sit him for 2 years behind ar and learn. This win now bull**** never works, look at the rams, they went win now and now are in cap hell

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