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The Academies

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  • #2352
    donnybrook1
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭donnybrook1


    any news on the Under 18s/19s squads for summer training


  • #2353
    Hands Like Flippers
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Hands Like Flippers


    donnybrook1 wrote: »
    any news on the Under 18s/19s squads for summer training

    I think the Ulster squads are out but UR don't publicise them.


  • #2354
    worldcupfever
    Site Banned Posts: 25 ✭worldcupfever


    Possible Leinster U20 side this summer:

    1. Harry Noonan(Greystones RFC/Old Wesley)
    2. Bobby Sheehan(Clongowes Wood/UCD)
    3. Ryan McMahon(Clongowes Wood)
    4. Cian Prendergast(Newbridge College/UCD)
    5. Sean O'Brien(Blackrock College)
    6. Anthony Ryan(Clongowes Wood College/DUFC)
    7. Mark Hernan(St. Michaels College)
    8. Ed Brennan(Blackrock College)
    9. Jack Connolly(Gonzaga College)
    10. Paddy McKenzie(Wicklow RFC/Old Wesley)
    11. Max O'Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC)
    12. Mick O'Gara(Pres Bray)
    13. Luis Faria(Wanderers FC/DUFC)
    14. Andrew Smith(St. Micahels College)
    15. James Reynolds(CBC Monkstown)

    Possible Leinster U19 side:

    1. Hugo O'Malley(Blackrock College)
    2. Lee Barron(St. Michaels College)
    3. Sam Illo(Wesley College)
    4. Alex Soroka(Belvedere College)
    5. Joseph McCarthy(Blackrock College)
    6. Jack Guinane(St. Michaels College)
    7. Aaron Coleman(Belvedere College)
    8. Will Hickey(St. Michaels College)
    9. Ben Murphy(Pres Bary)
    10. Niall Carroll(St. Michaels College)
    11. Matt Grogan(Belvedere College)
    12. Justin Leonard(Belvedere College)
    13. Chris Crosgrave(St. Michaels College)
    14. Josh O'Connor(Wexford RFC)
    15. Jamie Osborne(Naas RFC)


  • #2355
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I've seen that 9 Ben Murphy play. Very impressed. Can't recall a more impressive SH at Leinster Schools level since Luke McGrath. Hopefully he can kick on in the next few years.


  • #2356
    Quin_Dub
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    I've seen that 9 Ben Murphy play. Very impressed. Can't recall a more impressive SH at Leinster Schools level since Luke McGrath. Hopefully he can kick on in the next few years.

    Is he Richie Murphys son?

    I see he's from Pres Bray.


  • #2357
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Is he Richie Murphys son?

    I see he's from Pres Bray.

    I believe he is, and he place-kicked for them too.


  • #2358
    worldcupfever
    Site Banned Posts: 25 ✭worldcupfever


    Faugheen wrote: »
    I've seen that 9 Ben Murphy play. Very impressed. Can't recall a more impressive SH at Leinster Schools level since Luke McGrath. Hopefully he can kick on in the next few years.

    there is a chance he skips under-19 level and plays under-20 this summer.

    He is Richie Murphys son yes.

    watched him for ireland u18 over easter, wasn't hugely impressed, interested to watch his progression.

    Leinster should have every young scrumhalf watching Craig Casey for the 20's.


  • #2359
    Lucas44
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Lucas44


    worldcupfever wrote: »
    Possible Leinster U20 side this summer:

    1. Harry Noonan(Greystones RFC/Old Wesley)
    2. Bobby Sheehan(Clongowes Wood/UCD)
    3. Ryan McMahon(Clongowes Wood)
    4. Cian Prendergast(Newbridge College/UCD)
    5. Sean O'Brien(Blackrock College)
    6. Anthony Ryan(Clongowes Wood College/DUFC)
    7. Mark Hernan(St. Michaels College)
    8. Ed Brennan(Blackrock College)
    9. Jack Connolly(Gonzaga College)
    10. Paddy McKenzie(Wicklow RFC/Old Wesley)
    11. Max O'Reilly(St. Gerards/DUFC)
    12. Mick O'Gara(Pres Bray)
    13. Luis Faria(Wanderers FC/DUFC)
    14. Andrew Smith(St. Micahels College)
    15. James Reynolds(CBC Monkstown)

    Possible Leinster U19 side:

    1. Hugo O'Malley(Blackrock College)
    2. Lee Barron(St. Michaels College)
    3. Sam Illo(Wesley College)
    4. Alex Soroka(Belvedere College)
    5. Joseph McCarthy(Blackrock College)
    6. Jack Guinane(St. Michaels College)
    7. Aaron Coleman(Belvedere College)
    8. Will Hickey(St. Michaels College)
    9. Ben Murphy(Pres Bary)
    10. Niall Carroll(St. Michaels College)
    11. Matt Grogan(Belvedere College)
    12. Justin Leonard(Belvedere College)
    13. Chris Crosgrave(St. Michaels College)
    14. Josh O'Connor(Wexford RFC)
    15. Jamie Osborne(Naas RFC)

    Can’t see Reynolds being with leinster 20s he was dropped from connacht u19s last year, wouldn’t be surprised to see cosgrave go straight into 20s


  • #2360
    worldcupfever
    Site Banned Posts: 25 ✭worldcupfever


    Lucas44 wrote: »
    Can’t see Reynolds being with leinster 20s he was dropped from connacht u19s last year, wouldn’t be surprised to see cosgrave go straight into 20s

    Cosgrave is still in school and therefore not eligible for 20's.

    Reynolds made the leinster-20 summer squad, after he had a very strong season for CBC Monkstown.

    Other contenders for fullback at u20 level are Sam Dardis(Terenure), who was dropped from leinster under-19 last season and John Maher(Clongowes)


  • #2361
    DonVito
    Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭DonVito


    I would imagine the favourite for the 15 shirt is Max O'Reilly. He trained with the u20's squad before they departed and has already played some Celtic Cup rugby.


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  • #2362
    worldcupfever
    Site Banned Posts: 25 ✭worldcupfever


    DonVito wrote: »
    I would imagine the favourite for the 15 shirt is Max O'Reilly. He trained with the u20's squad before they departed and has already played some Celtic Cup rugby.

    it was the Cara Cup no?

    O'Reilly could certainly be at 15, he was in the sub-academy this season unlike Reynolds/Smith/Maher who were still in school and therefore ineligible from 20's training or A games.


  • #2363
    Hands Like Flippers
    Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Hands Like Flippers


    worldcupfever wrote: »

    Leinster should have every young scrumhalf watching Craig Casey for the 20's.

    What do you reckon is good about him? Ta.


  • #2364
    worldcupfever
    Site Banned Posts: 25 ✭worldcupfever


    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    What do you reckon is good about him? Ta.

    The speed he gets to the breakdown
    the speed he gets the ball out of the breakdown
    his speed and accuracy of passing off both hands
    his overall aggressiveness and decision making

    he is a future star, despite his size.

    leinster haven't had a scrumhalf come through with that sort of talent since ciaran scally, luke mcgrath is the closest and his passing isn't near casey's level nor is his ability to get the ball out of the breakdown quickly.


  • #2365
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Some names confirmed for Ulster's academy
    https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/ulster-rugby/ulster-confirm-four-new-academy-contracts-as-nathan-doak-joined-by-wallace-team-mates-39090365.html


  • #2366
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Some names confirmed for Ulster's academy
    https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/ulster-rugby/ulster-confirm-four-new-academy-contracts-as-nathan-doak-joined-by-wallace-team-mates-39090365.html

    I wonder if that's the full intake or if they were mentioned because their schools already announced them.


  • #2367
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    I wonder if that's the full intake or if they were mentioned because their schools already announced them.
    Cant imagine it is. Would expect more than 4 to be announced. As you say could be their schools announced it.


  • #2368
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,112 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I think the shortened season is going to have an impact on the Academies next year.

    A lot of the Irish U20's that would have been hoping to show their value in the 6N's and the World Cup in the hopes of moving to the next Contract stage may not now move forward so you might see a bit of a logjam effect.

    That and the financial impacts could see a reduced official intake into the Academies with guys remaining in sub-academies for another year..


  • #2369
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Could impact the number graduating as well. I remember reading that Leinster had their intake limited last time by the higher ups for some reason, so if they're cash strapped I imagine it might get limited further. Would be awful if a Leinster lad had to go to an academy, say, two hours up the road ;)

    That being said, Ulster's don't seem to have been impacted, especially if there are still other players yet to be announced so I imagine Leinster will have no problem accounting for all the players they had planned to.


  • #2370
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Some names confirmed for Ulster's academy
    https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/ulster-rugby/ulster-confirm-four-new-academy-contracts-as-nathan-doak-joined-by-wallace-team-mates-39090365.html

    Carson looked decent in the clips I saw of the Wallace schools cup semi final. Doak was always going to be added. I take it Lewis Finlay is already in the Academy?


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  • #2371
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    I think the shortened season is going to have an impact on the Academies next year.

    A lot of the Irish U20's that would have been hoping to show their value in the 6N's and the World Cup in the hopes of moving to the next Contract stage may not now move forward so you might see a bit of a logjam effect.

    That and the financial impacts could see a reduced official intake into the Academies with guys remaining in sub-academies for another year..

    Yeah, but the four announced are all currently schoolboys so aren't even at U20 level yet so that will make that logjam even more congested.

    That said I think most of the Ulster lads in the 20s squad were already in the Academy, certainly Stewart, McCann and Hyde are.

    Not sure about Finlay and I actually don't think Ethan McIlroy is, which is odd because he is in the Irish U20 side and has already featured heavily in a Pro 14 game for Ulster.


  • #2372
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    bilston wrote: »
    Yeah, but the four announced are all currently schoolboys so aren't even at U20 level yet so that will make that logjam even more congested.

    That said I think most of the Ulster lads in the 20s squad were already in the Academy, certainly Stewart, McCann and Hyde are.

    Not sure about Finlay and I actually don't think Ethan McIlroy is, which is odd because he is in the Irish U20 side and has already featured heavily in a Pro 14 game for Ulster.

    Pretty sure it was announced mid-season that McIlroy was moved up to a full academy place. Seemed a no-brainer considering they were playing him ahead of the other current academy wing/fullback. Think Finaly is only sub-academy.


  • #2373
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    Pretty sure it was announced mid-season that McIlroy was moved up to a full academy place. Seemed a no-brainer considering they were playing him ahead of the other current academy wing/fullback. Think Finaly is only sub-academy.

    Is Doak rated higher than Finlay?

    I hope we don't end up with another Jonny Stewart and Rhys O'Donnell scenario. Bring them both through, although I suppose Doak is a 10 as well so there should be room for both.


  • #2374
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    bilston wrote: »
    Is Doak rated higher than Finlay?

    I hope we don't end up with another Jonny Stewart and Rhys O'Donnell scenario. Bring them both through, although I suppose Doak is a 10 as well so there should be room for both.

    I'd wager that Doak will focus on 9 given our lack of options there and we have two young 10's. The coaches must rate him higher than Finlay given he started for the A team and got an academy place straight out of school. Finlay certainly made a case for himself in the six nations and I think there's definitely room for him - just down to whether or not the coaches are convinced I guess. They might prefer a prospect in the u19 or u18 group and might not want to have three academy 9's at once.


  • #2375
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    I'd wager that Doak will focus on 9 given our lack of options there and we have two young 10's. The coaches must rate him higher than Finlay given he started for the A team and got an academy place straight out of school. Finlay certainly made a case for himself in the six nations and I think there's definitely room for him - just down to whether or not the coaches are convinced I guess. They might prefer a prospect in the u19 or u18 group and might not want to have three academy 9's at once.

    Ulster would be mad not to give Finlay an offer. They need to hot house the academy with 9's and create a competitive environment and hope at less 1 9 pushes through over next few seasons.


  • #2376
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Connacht adding Sligos Donnacha Byrne for next season. Sligo tweeted this evening


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  • #2377
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Don't know if any of the provinces had any interest but Dan Kelly is apparently joining Leicester's academy. Thought he went really well for Ireland u20's and would've been a good addition somewhere.


  • #2378
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    That's a shame as he looked a good prospect. Unfortunately, he's likely to be lost to Irish rugby now for next few years at the very least.

    It will be interesting to see if he plays for the U20 side next season. I assume he's eligible to play for Englan U20 next year if selected?


  • #2379
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Yep he looked promising for the U20s. I wonder if any of the provinces were in for him. Any reason why we don’t lock down players if they play for the U20s like some other countries do by the way?


  • #2380
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    clsmooth wrote: »
    Yep he looked promising for the U20s. I wonder if any of the provinces were in for him. Any reason why we don’t lock down players if they play for the U20s like some other countries do by the way?

    I imagine most of the exiles wouldn't play for us then. They probably wouldn't want to commit too early and it might impact their academy prospects in England.


  • #2381
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    Rumour is that Kelly was set to sign for Connacht when Leicester came in.


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  • #2382
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    Possible Munster Academy class?

    Mark Donnelly(Prop/CBC Cork) - u19
    Scott Buckley(Hooker/CBC Cork) - u20
    Cian Hurley(Backrow/CBC Cork) - u20
    Alex Kendellan(Backrow/PBC Cork) - u19
    Jack Crowley(Outhalf/Bandon) - u20
    Harry O'Riordan(Centre/CBC Cork) - u19
    Aaron Leahy(Wing/CBC Cork) - u19


  • #2383
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    Abbey Insurance Ulster Rugby Academy 2020/21 Squad:

    Prop
    Callum Reid(U22/RBAI)

    Hooker
    Tom Stewart(U20/BRA)
    James McCormick(U19/Dalradia)

    Lock
    Cormac Izuchukwu(U21/Roscrea)

    Backrow
    Azur Allison(U23/Ballymena)
    Reuben Crothers(U19/Wallace)
    Dave McCann(U21/RBAI)

    Scrumhalf
    Nathan Doak(U20/Wallace)
    Lewis Finlay(U21/Down HS)

    Outhalf
    Bruce Houston(U23/Ballymena)

    Centre
    Hayden Hyde(U21/Exile)
    Ben Carson(U19/Wallace)

    Back Three
    Ethan McIlroy(U21/Methody)
    Conor Rankin(U20/Campbell)
    Aaron Sexton(U21/Bangor)

    Ulster academy players released:

    Aaron Hall(Backrow)
    Joe Dunleavy(Backrow)
    Graham Curtis(Scrumhalf)
    Matthew Agnew(Backrow)
    Matt Dalton(Lock)
    Jack Regan(Lock)
    Iwan Hughes(Wing)


  • #2384
    macslash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭macslash


    Scottmactom wrote: »
    Rumour is that Kelly was set to sign for Connacht when Leicester came in.

    That's a shame.


  • #2385
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Connacht promoting 6 players from the academy
    https://www.connachtrugby.ie/six-connacht-academy-players-sign-first-pro-contracts/


  • #2386
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    4 from Leinster originally, Portloaise RFC, Blackrock, Newbridge Col & St. Andrews.


  • #2387
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    Prop
    James French(Bandon/UCC) - Y3/U23
    Josh Wycherley(Bantry Bay RFC-Roscrea/Young Munster) - Y3/U22

    Hooker
    Eoghan Clarke(CBC Monkstown/Shannon) - Y3/U23
    Scott Buckley(CBC/UCC) - Y1/U21

    Lock
    Thomas Ahern(Dungarvan-Waterpark RFC/Shannon) - Y3/U21
    Paddy Kelly(St. Munchins/Young Munster) - Y2/U21
    Eoin O'Connor(Waterpark RFC/Garryowen) - Y2/U21

    Backrow
    Jack Daly(Castleisland RFC/Garryowen) - Y3/U23
    John Hodnett(Clonakilty RFC/UCC) - Y2/U22
    Alex Kendellan(PBC) - Y1/U20

    Scrumhalf

    Outhalf
    Ben Healy(Glenstal/Garryowen) - Y3/U22
    Jake Flannery(Rockwell/Shannon) - Y2/U22
    Jack Crowley(Bandon/Cork Con) - Y1/U21

    Outside Backs
    Sean French(PBC/Cork Con) - Y3/U22
    Jonathan Wren(PBC/Cork Con) - Y3/U22


  • #2388
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    1st year academy players:

    Prop

    Hooker
    Scott Buckley(CBC Cork/UCC/U21)
    James McCormick(Dalradia/U19)

    Lock
    Cormac Izuchukwu(Roscrea/Old Wesley/U21)

    Backrow
    Alex Kendellan(PBC/U20)
    Rueben Crothers(Wallace/U19)

    Scrumhalf
    Lewis Finlay(Down HS/Malone/U21)
    Nathan Doak(Wallace/U20)

    Outhalf
    Jack Crowley(Bandon/Cork Con/U21)

    Centre
    Ben Carson(Wallace/U19)

    Back Three
    Ethan McIlroy(Methody/U21)


  • #2389
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    Connacht Academy

    Further additions may be confirmed in the coming months.

    Year 1
    Donnacha Byrne(Sligo/Backrow)
    Ciaran Booth(Exile/Backrow)
    Hubert Costello(Corinthians/Backrow)
    Eoin De Buitlear(Cornintians/Hooker)
    Cathal Forde(Outhalf/Corinthians)
    Darragh Murray(Buccaneers/Lock)
    Cian Prendergast(Newbridge/Lock)
    Charlie Ward(Tullow RFC/Prop)

    Year 2
    Declan Adamson(Clontarf/Hooker)
    Shane Jennings(Centre)
    Oisin McCormack(Backrow)

    Year 3
    Colm De Buitlear(Wing)
    Joshua Dunne(Exile/Backrow)
    Oran McNulty(Exile/Fullback)
    Seán O’Brien(Mullingar RFC/Centre)
    Dylan Tierney-Martin(Hooker)[/quote]


  • #2390
    luke9311
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭luke9311


    Any word on if lucas berti newman (newbridge) been offered any academy spot? He looked a class act in this years senior cup? And any of the michaels players too? A good few of that team looked like good prospects


  • #2391
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    luke9311 wrote: »
    Any word on if lucas berti newman (newbridge) been offered any academy spot? He looked a class act in this years senior cup? And any of the michaels players too? A good few of that team looked like good prospects

    LBN is still in school next season.

    Several of that michael side will be in sub academy on the path to a potential academy place. Rumours one player may join straight from 6th year, but to be determined if true.


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  • #2392
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    1st year academy players - minus leinster

    Prop
    Charlie Ward(Tullow RFC/Clontarf/U21) - Connacht

    Hooker
    Scott Buckley(CBC Cork/UCC/U21) - Munster
    Eoin DeButilear(An Gealtacht/U20) - Connacht
    James McCormick(Dalradia/U19) - Ulster

    Lock
    Cormac Izuchukwu(Roscrea/Old Wesley/U21) - Ulster
    Cian Prendergast(Newbridge/UCD/U21) - Connacht
    Darragh Murray(Buccaneers/U20) - Connacht

    Backrow
    Ciaran Booth(Exile/U21) - Connacht
    Alex Kendellan(PBC/U20) - Munster
    Hubert Costello(Corinthians/U20) - Connacht
    Donnacha Byrne(Sligo/U20) - Connacht
    Rueben Crothers(Wallace/U19) - Ulster

    Scrumhalf
    Lewis Finlay(Down HS/Malone/U21) - Ulster
    Nathan Doak(Wallace/U20) - Ulster

    Outhalf
    Jack Crowley(Bandon/Cork Con/U21) - Munster
    Cathal Forde(Corinthians/U20) - Connacht

    Centre
    Ben Carson(Wallace/U19) - Ulster

    Back Three
    Ethan McIlroy(Methody/U21) - Ulster


  • #2393
    luke9311
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭luke9311


    Scottmactom wrote: »
    LBN is still in school next season.

    Several of that michael side will be in sub academy on the path to a potential academy place. Rumours one player may join straight from 6th year, but to be determined if true.

    Ah ok sorry I was under the assumption LBN was a 6th year SP was a standout for them in the backs too I thought along with DM in the pack were pretty good. Yeah no surpise hearing about most them Michael’s lads joining the sub academy I guess.. I know a few older lads out of that school and we’re tipping their prop last year jb and the full back last year who’s name I can’t think of now but they were tipping them to go into academy even back at junior cup year


  • #2394
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    luke9311 wrote: »
    Ah ok sorry I was under the assumption LBN was a 6th year SP was a standout for them in the backs too I thought along with DM in the pack were pretty good. Yeah no surpise hearing about most them Michael’s lads joining the sub academy I guess.. I know a few older lads out of that school and we’re tipping their prop last year jb and the full back last year who’s name I can’t think of now but they were tipping them to go into academy even back at junior cup year

    No, he is u18 this summer along with DM. Both look like potential future academy players.. ideally both would be taller though. Wait and see how they go as they are both very young. LBN could be an electric scrumhalf for example, probably too late for that though. Several potential academy players on that newbridge side.

    Yeah Boyle and Cosgrave have been tipped since they were in 2nd/3rd year. Boyle is u18 this season and very young for a prop to join the academy proper at this stage, a year physical development and maturation in the sub academy will do him well.

    Cosgrave, is the player rumoured to be joining straight from school, he doesn't quite look like the prospect he was at JCT but still a very good prospect at wing or fullback.

    Barron(Hooker) & Hickey(Backrow) would be the other two players with a very strong chance at an academy place after sub academy. Then there is probably a few others O'Kelly(Centre), Guinane(Backrow), Kelly(Wing) and Power(Prop) who face an uphill battle in regards to an academy place.


  • #2395
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    rumours that leinster will only announce three academy entrants before the season resumes with further additions expected later.


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    Buer
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    Soroka, Smith and SOBv4.0 according to LeinsterFans.

    Not that surprising. Leinster had a smaller representation in the U20 team this year and already had Deeny and Clarkson in the academy too.

    Guys like Tim Corkery and Joe McCarthy have another year at U20 level so it's no surprise if they're not being added to the academy in the current financial climate. I imagine someone like John McKee would be disappointed to not get in after 2 years at Ireland U20 level. But with Dan Sheehan and Kelleher, Leinster aren't short on young hookers right now.

    Every chance another player or two is added in the coming months though, I'd guess.


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    Lucas44
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    Buer wrote: »
    Soroka, Smith and SOBv4.0 according to LeinsterFans.

    Not that surprising. Leinster had a smaller representation in the U20 team this year and already had Deeny and Clarkson in the academy too.

    Guys like Tim Corkery and Joe McCarthy have another year at U20 level so it's no surprise if they're not being added to the academy in the current financial climate. I imagine someone like John McKee would be disappointed to not get in after 2 years at Ireland U20 level. But with Dan Sheehan and Kelleher, Leinster aren't short on young hookers right now.

    Every chance another player or two is added in the coming months though, I'd guess.

    Was very impressed with the 7 from Michaels for 20s this year can’t remember his name but he definitely stood out. Would of thought he would have been in with a chance


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    ionadnapokot
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    Lucas44 wrote: »
    Was very impressed with the 7 from Michaels for 20s this year can’t remember his name but he definitely stood out. Would of thought he would have been in with a chance

    Mark Hernan?


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    Scottmactom
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    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Mark Hernan?

    presume he will get a chance to a earn a place this summer.


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    Locke_Lamora
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    Buer wrote: »
    Soroka, Smith and SOBv4.0 according to LeinsterFans.

    Not that surprising. Leinster had a smaller representation in the U20 team this year and already had Deeny and Clarkson in the academy too.

    Guys like Tim Corkery and Joe McCarthy have another year at U20 level so it's no surprise if they're not being added to the academy in the current financial climate. I imagine someone like John McKee would be disappointed to not get in after 2 years at Ireland U20 level. But with Dan Sheehan and Kelleher, Leinster aren't short on young hookers right now.

    Every chance another player or two is added in the coming months though, I'd guess.

    Soroka only ended up playing one game, didn't he? Still u20 next year as well so the coaches must rate him well enough, looked very good against England. Smith should be competing with the other back three players in the academy immediately imo (O'Sullivan, Silvester, Turner), he looks really sharp down the touchline and is physical enough. I thought SOB looked handier than Hernan and he looks like he could play across the backrow. Wasn't as impressed with Hernan as others I guess, thought he lacked the physicality and wasn't sure what he could do to a high enough level that I'd want him lining out every week in the backrow, if that makes sense?

    One of the hookers will be gutted to miss out. Sheehan and McKee are decent enough players, but I suspect the coaches would have wanted to see how the rest of the games played out. Barron coming up behind them as well, so no need to rush a decision. Can always bring someone in mid year.

    The sub academy should be competitive - quite a few handy players coming out of school, certinaly a few back three players who could get a contract somewhere. Then there's the likes of Joe McCarthy. Thought he might have done enough to sneak in, looked very physical for an u19 and with Dowling leaving, and fardy and toner getting along there's another spot in the row open. No harm in waiting a year, didn't get much game time this year.


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  • #2401
    Clegg
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    Hernan looks a good prospect, but there's such a logjam of talented opensides in the senior squad that it's hard to see where he'd fit even two or three years down the line. VDF is the oldest of that cohort and he's just turned 27.

    New SOB might be in a better position at blindside as there's only Ruddock and maybe Josh Murphy ahead of him there.


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