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Grazing 2021

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Zero growth here at the minute. Giving cows out a bale every day as was worried about the frost at night. Heavy rain yesterday did a lot of harm. Will be staying putting out a bale for the next while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Zero growth here at the minute. Giving cows out a bale every day as was worried about the frost at night. Heavy rain yesterday did a lot of harm. Will be staying putting out a bale for the next while

    You got that rain too


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Reggie. wrote: »
    You got that rain too

    Sure did. And cattle on reseeds which are tender so did a good bit of harm yesterday. Thank God today was a good day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Was hoping to sow the spuds this week and that’s gone out the window too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Sure did. And cattle on reseeds which are tender so did a good bit of harm yesterday. Thank God today was a good day.

    Yeah same here. Ill just run the guttler through the paddocks when it dries out more. Jaysus it came outta no where


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    Where was all this rain lads in clare here and tis shirt weather with last 3 days hard frost last night with heavy sea fog this morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    lab man wrote: »
    Where was all this rain lads in clare here and tis shirt weather with last 3 days hard frost last night with heavy sea fog this morning

    Small bit of rain on Sunday but not much else, growth has slowed a bit but certainly hasn't stopped. Cattle are catching up grazing the meadow though, but that won't be cut until July anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Was hoping to sow the spuds this week and that’s gone out the window too.

    https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210407-french-farmers-find-innovative-solutions-to-battle-unexpected-cold-spell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    lab man wrote: »
    Where was all this rain lads in clare here and tis shirt weather with last 3 days hard frost last night with heavy sea fog this morning

    It was more of a sudden downpour across the Midlands the other night. Something like a summers thunderstorm. Serious water fell in about 15mins


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Tomjim


    will the grass grow in this type of weather, or will the frost be a problem?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Tomjim wrote: »
    will the grass grow in this type of weather, or will the frost be a problem?

    Slow enough here in the Midlands with the frost at night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Hershall


    Tomjim wrote: »
    will the grass grow in this type of weather, or will the frost be a problem?

    I walked a field today that I will be grazing at the weekend there was more grass in it last week.
    Badly burnt by the frost


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Walk the farms and see how ye are fixed, how many days ahead etc. If things are very tight go in with a bit of silage or meal. If conditions suit put a round feeder in the paddock while they graze it and move them on once grazed. Alternatively bring them to the yard to eat a bite of meal


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Walk the farms and see how ye are fixed, how many days ahead etc. If things are very tight go in with a bit of silage or meal. If conditions suit put a round feeder in the paddock while they graze it and move them on once grazed. Alternatively bring them to the yard to eat a bite of meal

    Walked the farm this evening with the help of an experienced grass man. I was thinking 'its tight' but his advice was to push on. April is a month for living on the edge. I was surprised there was as much on some fields tbh.

    Demand is low with cattle just settling now and I have at least 15 days grass ahead. He was predicting I will be flush in a week when growth kicks in. Closing up some silage without grazing it if it goes that way. Happy enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Getting tight here. Should I strip grazing a few acres of silage ground which hasn’t a whole lot on it or open a few bales? I make too much silage anyway but I’ve bales left. Thinking bad of feeding bales as they’re out 4 weeks and I’ve settled into summer mode! Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Getting tight here. Should I strip grazing a few acres of silage ground which hasn’t a whole lot on it or open a few bales? I make too much silage anyway but I’ve bales left. Thinking bad of feeding bales as they’re out 4 weeks and I’ve settled into summer mode! Thanks

    It would really depend on how much fertlizer the silage ground got. This year I left about 20% of the silage ground with Slurry (2K gallons/acre) and 25 units of N. If I have to graze it I will. I have about 8-10 days grazing before starting second rotation. However the covers are heavy and dry weather is allowing mw to graze tight.

    It really never worries me about feeding bales or grazing a paddock set for silage. If you think you have a good reserve of silage I would strip graze a few acres. However if its got Slurry and 70-80 units of N I be more inclined to throw out a few bales

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    It got no slurry but 4 bags of Cut Sward. I think I’ll graze it. I’ll use my bales first next winter or maybe sell in July when the heatwave kicks in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Very little on silage ground so back with a bale in a round feeder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    Had a lad call yesterday looking to take some bales. He had all the cattle out with 3 weeks and they have gone through the fields like locust. He has fertilizer out but still no good. He's gone with 38 bales I had planned for next winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    Had a lad call yesterday looking to take some bales. He had all the cattle out with 3 weeks and they have gone through the fields like locust. He has fertilizer out but still no good. He's gone with 38 bales I had planned for next winter.

    Couple of weeks ago fellas were telling a lad with 2019 bales to give em away, the likes of that friend of yours would have bought em


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Had a lad call yesterday looking to take some bales. He had all the cattle out with 3 weeks and they have gone through the fields like locust. He has fertilizer out but still no good. He's gone with 38 bales I had planned for next winter.

    Hope you charged him enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    endainoz wrote: »
    Small bit of rain on Sunday but not much else, growth has slowed a bit but certainly hasn't stopped. Cattle are catching up grazing the meadow though, but that won't be cut until July anyway.

    Some difference in a few miles, no bit of growth here at all yet. Was out your way the other evening and couldn't get over the grass in places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,851 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    wrangler wrote: »
    Hope you charged him enough

    No point riding anyone either. What goes around comes around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    High Dry matter in the grass really aiding to stretching it out
    We're half way through 2nd round and going okay
    Just done a walk and will be bursting with grass this day week if the bit of rain comes, was going to be tight going by the walk I had done on Monday
    65u of N out plus 2k slurry and 13 units of available phos has kept things right
    Stocked at 4 cows per ha and no silage fed since mid march


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Some warmth is wanting more than moisture here. Looks a week away to anything mid teens again. Defiantly true regarding the dry matter, 24hrs worth doing another grazing with no fuss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭TooOldBoots


    wrangler wrote: »
    Hope you charged him enough

    450 euro. 2019 second cut bales a bit on the small side but the stuff is good. Not an outrageous price, I know the man so I wouldn't be out to screw him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,851 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Raining here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Some difference in a few miles, no bit of growth here at all yet. Was out your way the other evening and couldn't get over the grass in places.

    Ah I'd be under a bit of pressure if I wasn't grazing the meadow so late.

    Got a nice drop last night too, ground temps coming up a bit too and no overnight frosts anymore, I think this will shoot off over the next few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭I says


    Spread 18-6-12 during the week on grazing ground the drizzley wet day will wash it in. Roll on the warm weather.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Grazing conditions are excellant. Cattle cleaning out ground very well. Still on first rotation since turnout over 4 weeks ago. Silage ground cleaned by start of April. Land that got fertlizer in late February really benefited from it. One or two places that were wet had to be stayed out of these did not power ahead like rest of the paddock they were in. May have tp feed a few bales to one bunch that are away from main land bank but the other two bunches have 7-10 day grazing to finish first rotation unless grazing conditions do not hold up. Intend on getting out with fertlizer on ground alreadly grazed this week.

    Cattle have done some thrive. A lot have grown. Friesians are coming faster than a lot of the coloured cattle. Its a matter of pushing on magic day cannot be far away. Silage grounds are ready to burst ahead if temperatures raise 3-5 degrees. According to Met Eireann soil temp are just hitting 10C if they rise 2-3 degrees grass will power ahead

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Grazing conditions are excellant. Cattle cleaning out ground very well. Still on first rotation since turnout over 4 weeks ago. Silage ground cleaned by start of April. Land that got fertlizer in late February really benefited from it. One or two places that were wet had to be stayed out of these did not power ahead like rest of the paddock they were in. May have tp feed a few bales to one bunch that are away from main land bank but the other two bunches have 7-10 day grazing to finish first rotation unless grazing conditions do not hold up. Intend on getting out with fertlizer on ground alreadly grazed this week.

    Cattle have done some thrive. A lot have grown. Friesians are coming faster than a lot of the coloured cattle. Its a matter of pushing on magic day cannot be far away. Silage grounds are ready to burst ahead if temperatures raise 3-5 degrees. According to Met Eireann soil temp are just hitting 10C if they rise 2-3 degrees grass will power ahead

    Starting on second rotation here. Hoping for first silage mid May and then end of May. Living on the edge of grass in front of them at the minute. I'm giving the older ones a touch of meal to keep them from getting ahead of me. Needed this rain badly to get the ground ready for the warm week coming. Got 2 acres reseeded and grass starting to peek through. Got another 2 acres overseeded that got badly poached mid March before the dry spell kicked in. Both sown with a multi species so we'll see how that takes to the dry ground here. All and all I can't complain as cattle grazing since start of March. Cattle thriving very well. Two below from different ends of the Larrys grading machine. 😉


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Starting on second rotation here. Hoping for first silage mid May and then end of May. Living on the edge of grass in front of them at the minute. I'm giving the older ones a touch of meal to keep them from getting ahead of me. Needed this rain badly to get the ground ready for the warm week coming. Got 2 acres reseeded and grass starting to peek through. Got another 2 acres overseeded that got badly poached mid March before the dry spell kicked in. Both sown with a multi species so we'll see how that takes to the dry ground here. All and all I can't complain as cattle grazing since start of March. Cattle thriving very well. Two below from different ends of the Larrys grading machine. 😉

    Friesian should grade on. Shod be an O= at 330/340DW. After that it a matter how long you want to keep him

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Friesian should grade on. Shod be an O= at 330/340DW. After that it a matter how long you want to keep him

    No panic on him yet. The closer ge gets to 30 mts the taller and heavier he will be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,120 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Grazing conditions are excellant. Cattle cleaning out ground very well. Still on first rotation since turnout over 4 weeks ago. Silage ground cleaned by start of April. Land that got fertlizer in late February really benefited from it. One or two places that were wet had to be stayed out of these did not power ahead like rest of the paddock they were in. May have tp feed a few bales to one bunch that are away from main land bank but the other two bunches have 7-10 day grazing to finish first rotation unless grazing conditions do not hold up. Intend on getting out with fertlizer on ground alreadly grazed this week.

    Cattle have done some thrive. A lot have grown. Friesians are coming faster than a lot of the coloured cattle. Its a matter of pushing on magic day cannot be far away. Silage grounds are ready to burst ahead if temperatures raise 3-5 degrees. According to Met Eireann soil temp are just hitting 10C if they rise 2-3 degrees grass will power ahead

    There's no extra warmth in the coming weeks forecast
    Silage and grazing ground are very dismal here, a good wet week needed more than heat imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    There's no extra warmth in the coming weeks forecast
    Silage and grazing ground are very dismal here, a good wet week needed more than heat imo

    Ground is still moist enough here. We got a lot of rain up to mid February. As well we got a nice bit mid March, even since we got a few mm here and there.

    Ground temperatures are still below 10C until they go above 12C you will not get sustained growth. According to my area forecast we are supposed to get 4-6mm tonight. Daytime temp over last few weeks have been 9-10C with an odd warm day. But there has been a cold wind as well.

    From Wednesday on temp are supposed to rise to 12-15C with ground frost from Thursday night on. That should push grass growth during the day however as frost should burn off early

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    , a good wet week needed more than heat imo

    Do you want to destroy the place altogether. Last Monday did enough harm and it was only one day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Do you want to destroy the place altogether. Last Monday did enough harm and it was only one day.

    I am in the south east like Grasstomilk. I am now getting it hard to drive a pigtail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Grueller wrote: »
    I am in the south east like Grasstomilk. I am now getting it hard to drive a pigtail.

    The problem.is if the SE gets an inch of rainy we get 1.5-2 inches. Ground still very moist in places. We need heat only. I will need rain in May but not now.

    A wet and windy May fills the barns with corn and hay

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    The problem.is if the SE gets an inch of rainy we get 1.5-2 inches. Ground still very moist in places. We need heat only. I will need rain in May but not now.

    A wet and windy May fills the barns with corn and hay

    A wet and windy May fills the bales with water and clay!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    A wet and windy May fills the bales with water and clay!

    Tell your contactor to stop cutting it so tight then!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    A wet and windy May fills the bales with water and clay!

    Na you just wait until the first of June and the Sun shines

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Grueller wrote: »
    I am in the south east like Grasstomilk. I am now getting it hard to drive a pigtail.

    Ah fair enough but that’s a first world problem on the heavy land in the midlands. Still soft enough here in places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Grueller wrote: »
    I am in the south east like Grasstomilk. I am now getting it hard to drive a pigtail.

    I'm back feeding some silage now to drag it out a bit. Two ring feeders in a paddock.
    Same paddock where the cows were fed in 2018 drought.
    Those patches where the feeders were then are still evident today with darker carbon rich soil and greener stronger grass.
    Feeders are in a different place of course now to spread the benefits. Cows in that paddock at night eating silage from a few years ago.
    On my third round heading for fourth quick enough so needed to slow it down.

    All springs, drains have dried up.

    Did a drive around yesterday and grass is not growing back on lots in the area.
    Even saw silage gone off a field and slurry spread in grasstomilks general area. The specialist silage swards and those with the fert and slurry out early are the only one's I see with a reasonable cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I'm back feeding some silage now to drag it out a bit. Two ring feeders in a paddock.
    Same paddock where the cows were fed in 2018 drought.
    Those patches where the feeders were then are still evident today with darker carbon rich soil and greener stronger grass.
    Feeders are in a different place of course now to spread the benefits. Cows in that paddock at night eating silage from a few years ago.
    On my third round heading for fourth quick enough so needed to slow it down.

    All springs, drains have dried up.

    Did a drive around yesterday and grass is not growing back on lots in the area.
    Even saw silage gone off a field and slurry spread in grasstomilks general area. The specialist silage swards and those with the fert and slurry out early are the only one's I see with a reasonable cover.

    I have 6 acres of 1500 covers on an out block a mile away from the yard. Just off the phone from the contractor to zero graze in a load tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Hard to drive pigtails here too but it's the height of fecking stones lol. Getting a bit of drizzle/ light rain the last few days, will help the fert kick into gear. Slurry lads had to avoid bits of wet ground last week all the same. Had growth of 36 last week, getting thru the second round now but covers of 1400 down lines up so grass is just right still on 5kgs ration as well. Closed 2/3 of what would normally be silage ground which got the slurry, will see about the other third as the week goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Just moved the two big bunches of cattle. Paddocks they went into looked heavy from a distance. However grass is heavy around last year's dungpads but very little grass on the rest of it. Grass is ready to burst. Black tips indicate that there is Urea in the grass but ground temp too.loe to push growth on.

    No problem pushing pigtails into ground. For some was able to do it by hand alone.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Are many lads feeding bales?
    Just a like would do. No need to comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Are many lads feeding bales?
    Just a like would do. No need to comment.

    Pit silage but same thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭green daries


    Grueller wrote: »
    Pit silage but same thing
    Buffer for the foreseeable according to Mt's forecast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,776 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Buffer for the foreseeable according to Mt's forecast

    You'd notice there today now any regrowths don't have that burnt frost look.
    It feels kinder today too.
    If we get a little bit milder it looks there's enough of moisture still in the ground to keep things going. (Well here anyway).
    We're not done for yet..


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