Grazing 2021

Say my name · 18-03-2021 10:51pm

Castlekeeper wrote: »

Cows just went out again today, there's no great drying in this cool drizzly weather now compared to the last dry spell. It's supposed to stay cool too so I'm not expecting much growth, I'd say it'll be slow 'til May. We're due a bad year, I might sell a few extra cows while prices are good...

We're not getting the drizzly weather over here.
I'm actually grazing the wettest parts atm. Last few days have been real sunshine belters. Have a few maidens to sell myself.
Anywhere got that jms is really showing the benefits now. Regrowths are way better than not. Ground is drier too.
For the road you're going I'd have no hesitancy in recommending it. Test plot in the garden with char and jms put on heavy is really full of nitrogen.

memorystick · 18-03-2021 11:00pm

Is it too chilly to let raw bullocks out off slats?

endainoz · 18-03-2021 11:00pm

Castlekeeper wrote: »

Cows just went out again today, there's no great drying in this cool drizzly weather now compared to the last dry spell. It's supposed to stay cool too so I'm not expecting much growth, I'd say it'll be slow 'til May. We're due a bad year, I might sell a few extra cows while prices are good...

Ah I'm more of a glass half full kind of lad! Great drying here anyway, bit of fog overnight but the sun came soon after.

Good loser · 19-03-2021 1:45am

memorystick wrote: »

Is it too chilly to let raw bullocks out off slats?

No. Let them off.

Birdnuts · 19-03-2021 2:18am

endainoz wrote: »

https://www.met.ie/forecasts/monthly-forecast

Met eireann seem to be saying it'll be settled in the long term though. They just started doing long term forecasting, will be interesting to see how accurate they are with it.

I would be very very wary of long term/seasonal forecasts for this part of the world.

endainoz · 19-03-2021 10:23am

Birdnuts wrote: »

I would be very very wary of long term/seasonal forecasts for this part of the world.

Well it does have a disclaimer at the start on the overall reliability, it's just more of an observation. Was never going to take what they said as gospel like. Though I'd still be more inclined to listen to them than some Donegal postman.

ESetter · 19-03-2021 10:32am

memorystick wrote: »

Is it too chilly to let raw bullocks out off slats?

Left off fr bullocks yesterday..ground only ok but they were sick of the slats and it was an ease to them to get them out.

memorystick · 20-03-2021 1:26pm

Let them out today. Not over dry but they’re better off out. It’s the first year I’ve the fencing as good as it is. Arms pulled out of me after driving 80 stakes with that pounder thing.

alan10 · 20-03-2021 8:29pm

Hi,
how long do you typically wait after putting out fert before you can let the cattle out on it?
Put out 10-10-20 on Paddy's day, was planning to let few out on it tomorrow? Can see the fert - does it do harm to stock?

Good loser · 21-03-2021 12:53am

alan10 wrote: »

Hi,
how long do you typically wait after putting out fert before you can let the cattle out on it?
Put out 10-10-20 on Paddy's day, was planning to let few out on it tomorrow? Can see the fert - does it do harm to stock?

Won't harm stock.

Some spread fert while stock are grazing the same field - have done it myself.

Bass Reeves · 21-03-2021 1:16pm

Got the last of them out yesterday. Will be tight to get all silage ground grazed my April 1st.

Reggie. · 21-03-2021 1:26pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Got the last of them out yesterday. Will be tight to get all silage ground grazed my April 1st.

I'm on my last bale on the outwintering ground. Be on the grazing platform in a day or two. Stitch the outwintering ground then

lab man · 21-03-2021 10:42pm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Where did you see this labman, or what are you basing it on?

The tide clouds and general signs I keep a good eye on things

lab man · 21-03-2021 10:47pm

Say my name wrote: »

We're not getting the drizzly weather over here.
I'm actually grazing the wettest parts atm. Last few days have been real sunshine belters. Have a few maidens to sell myself.
Anywhere got that jms is really showing the benefits now. Regrowths are way better than not. Ground is drier too.
For the road you're going I'd have no hesitancy in recommending it. Test plot in the garden with char and jms put on heavy is really full of nitrogen.

What is jms

TooOldBoots · 21-03-2021 11:03pm

Two lots of cattle out with 3 weeks. Unbelievable change on them, they have cleaned off and are fleshing up really well. I have them on grass and 2kg of barley beef ration. I hadn't given them any meal all winter only since I let them out, they look better than cattle on meal and silage all winter.
Great spell of weather, I'm glad I took no notice of the Druid weathermen and there silly forecasts! Met have been bang on with the forecasts over the last month

Say my name · 21-03-2021 11:44pm

lab man wrote: »

What is jms

Jadam microbial solution.

Sea salt or sea water or brakish water-(which I used), boiled or steamed potatoes - starch food source for microbes, deciduous forest soil never sprayed or fertilized - for the diverse microbes (brakish or seawater would have more microbes too). Then put the forest soil into a pillow case and kneed out the soil through the pillow case in a food grade circular water container with rain or untreated well water. Do the same with the cooked potatoes kneed it through the pillow case.
Then keep the water at 18c and in three days a circular disc of foam should be on the surface with a clear edge of liquid just be inside the container edge. When you have that it's immediately ready to spray on the soil. (The pillow case kneading through would have taken care of any blockages to your sprayer).
Spray before and after winter. On a cloudy day just before rain. The rain washes it into the soil where it does it's thing.

It's microbial so spray less than 2 psi and with wide bore nozzles. If you're gardening use a watering can.

https://youtu.be/6-CfEKPo6xY

Second pic is nitrates tester.
Solution was at 2 at start. Then went to 8 when the microbes were at optimum number. That would rise further if the microbes were left be in the container and used up their food source and kicked the bucket. Which is not what you want. All you're left with then is a fertilizer not a microbial solution.

But the disk is your visual guide that it's good to go.

Jb1989 · 22-03-2021 1:01am

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Two lots of cattle out with 3 weeks. Unbelievable change on them, they have cleaned off and are fleshing up really well. I have them on grass and 2kg of barley beef ration. I hadn't given them any meal all winter only since I let them out, they look better than cattle on meal and silage all winter.
Great spell of weather, I'm glad I took no notice of the Druid weathermen and there silly forecasts! Met have been bang on with the forecasts over the last month

Are you planning to get rid of them in the next few weeks with going with ration so early?

TooOldBoots · 22-03-2021 8:37am

Jb1989 wrote: »

Are you planning to get rid of them in the next few weeks with going with ration so early?

Yes they'll be gone by mid April. They are the lighter store cattle that wouldn't be factory fit till the end of the year. My land isn't good enough for fattening cattle so they have to move on

Base price · 23-03-2021 2:51am

I let out 14 yearling heifers for a nip of grass earlier this month. I moved them to another field on Thursday and noticed that two of them are showing signs of bloat - they appear ok and are grazing away but I'm concerned. I've never seen bloat at this time of the year as I always reckoned it was due to clover growth in late Summer. The land that they are grazing hasn't got any slurry yet and we don't use artificial fertilizer. They are CHx's amongst a group of bought in LMx, AAx and HEx in Dec/Jan. The bunch were dosed on arrival with Albex/Alltrace Mineral bolus and after a few weeks with Imec pour on.

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Base price · 25-03-2021 1:28am

I brought the two heifers back in this morning and gave them wheaten straw which they ate. This evening the bloat had gone down but not gone away. I will keep them in for while, give them wheaten straw and silage and see how they get on. As they are the only two CHx's in the group I thought that they maybe from the same herd but they are not.

I says · 29-03-2021 12:21am

Some rain after falling last night and scuttery day here all day. Cattle are out and are content. Moved from first field today. Mob grazing for now.

CloughCasey1 · 29-03-2021 9:46pm

I says wrote: »

Some rain after falling last night and scuttery day here all day. Cattle are out and are content. Moved from first field today. Mob grazing for now.

Have 2 paddocks in an absolute ****e after the weekend.

Reggie. · 29-03-2021 10:36pm

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Have 2 paddocks in an absolute ****e after the weekend.

I'm on my way with the guttler

CloughCasey1 · 29-03-2021 10:50pm

Reggie. wrote: »

I'm on my way with the guttler

I'll give it a rub of the grass harrow first ðŸ˜

memorystick · 29-03-2021 10:51pm

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I'll give it a rub of the grass harrow first ðŸ˜

Is it not too wet? A bit of dust might be a better job.

CloughCasey1 · 29-03-2021 10:54pm

memorystick wrote: »

Is it not too wet? A bit of dust might be a better job.

Ah it is. I was only giving smart arse a dig ; )
2 days of drying and id chance it all the same. Wouldnt mind seeing the nose of the dini turning in the drive after that.

Reggie. · 29-03-2021 11:07pm

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Ah it is. I was only giving smart arse a dig ; )
2 days of drying and id chance it all the same. Wouldnt mind seeing the nose of the dini turning in the drive after that.

If the price is right

CloughCasey1 · 29-03-2021 11:09pm

Reggie. wrote: »

If the price is right

Boards rates : )

Reggie. · 29-03-2021 11:12pm

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Boards rates : )

Ram it

TooOldBoots · 30-03-2021 5:11pm

Smashing day, you can see the grass coming over the last week, a bit of heat is unreal.
I let the last of the store cattle out, all the cow pairs are out, only the stragglers left to calf and the culls left inside. Great start to the grazing year so far

Dozer1 · 30-03-2021 9:05pm

Left off autumn calvers today after weighing for beep great day to let em off. Rest will be out over the next week

TooOldBoots · 30-03-2021 10:19pm

Dozer1 wrote: »

Left off autumn calvers today after weighing for beep great day to let em off. Rest will be out over the next week

I let out the spring calvers, I couldn't get them out of the sheds quick enough this year between scour and coughing I never had it as bad. Lucky they all survived, but idk what was the cause if it.
They are a lot healthier outside just as long as the weather holds for some of the calves to strengthen up

lab man · 30-03-2021 10:24pm

TooOldBoots wrote: »

I let out the spring calvers, I couldn't get them out of the sheds quick enough this year between scour and coughing I never had it as bad. Lucky they all survived, but idk what was the cause if it.
They are a lot healthier outside just as long as the weather holds for some of the calves to strengthen up

Weather not settled yet tide back to looking cat again this week we dunno wat twill do this time though I could hear the ferry again this morning which is about 4 or 5 miles away as crow flies wind gonna go north though that's for sure

memorystick · 01-04-2021 10:52pm

At slurry today and only had access to one field but it got nearly 4k gallons per acre of watery slurry. Didn’t think it wasn’t as wet underneath. Shure it’ll be there for the second cut! Cattle starting to clean up well.

Kevhog1988 · 07-04-2021 3:10pm

Grass seems to be coming the past week or so. have a paddock closed off for when i start lambing next month (Better late than never), gave it fert last friday so hopefully it drives on now for the next few weeks. We had a terrible time last year with drought and no grass for ewes. They were shook when sheared even though id pumped them with nuts and hay.

I says · 08-04-2021 6:46pm

Grass has slowed to snails pace here with the cold the last week.

TooOldBoots · 08-04-2021 7:53pm

I says wrote: »

Grass has slowed to snails pace here with the cold the last week.

Yep no regrowth. Grazing conditions are good, cattle are doing no damage and cleaning the ground but nothing coming after them. I'm gonna use slurry on the bare ground I think it would work better than bag fertilizer in this cold snap

Green farmer · 08-04-2021 9:18pm

I says wrote: »

Grass has slowed to snails pace here with the cold the last week.

Same thing here. Just stopped dead in its tracks. We're progressing through april now, so sooner or later milder weather has to come and when it does, the place will be transformed overnight.

memorystick · 08-04-2021 10:44pm

Lads will be looking for rain shortly.

Reggie. · 08-04-2021 11:03pm

Green farmer wrote: »

Same thing here. Just stopped dead in its tracks. We're progressing through april now, so sooner or later milder weather has to come and when it does, the place will be transformed overnight.

Think after this weekend its to be warmer

Finty Lemon · 08-04-2021 11:08pm

I plan not to graze the silage ground this year.
It delays first cut too much and every year seems to be June before it's ready. It got light slurry in Feb, 2 bags 0-7-30 and 2 bags urea on it 2 weeks ago.

Cut in 5 weeks time and have aftergrass by June 8th
Will hopefully have enough grass without it- calf to beef

Cavanjack · 08-04-2021 11:27pm

Finty Lemon wrote: »

I plan not to graze the silage ground this year.
It delays first cut too much and every year seems to be June before it's ready. It got light slurry in Feb, 2 bags 0-7-30 and 2 bags urea on it 2 weeks ago.

Cut in 5 weeks time and have aftergrass by June 8th
Will hopefully have enough grass without it- calf to beef

Quit grazing it early here too. Usually ended up that it wasn’t ate until mid April which was too late to close it to get a decent crop before the end of may.

Bass Reeves · 09-04-2021 7:46am

Last of the silage ground grazed off last Monday. All except last 5 acres got Urea a week ago. Slurry spread last Tuesday and Wednesday. Weather depending expect to be cutting last week in May.

whelan2 · 09-04-2021 9:16am

I normally graze it off. Great quality silage after it has been grazed down fully.

memorystick · 10-04-2021 11:17pm

whelan2 wrote: »

I normally graze it off. Great quality silage after it has been grazed down fully.

I think it’s a great job. Sheep here all winter and lovely clean ground. Nice leafy silage with very little stem when grazed in March. Can’t see the logic in not grazing it off.

I says · 10-04-2021 11:41pm

memorystick wrote: »

I think it’s a great job. Sheep here all winter and lovely clean ground. Nice leafy silage with very little stem when grazed in March. Can’t see the logic in not grazing it off.

I’m getting the white vermin next December ground will be perfect, according to experiment

Danzy · 11-04-2021 11:50am

My silage block is behind the sheds, one of Which has had a back door cut into it so Sheep can be Left graze over winter.

Bass Reeves · 11-04-2021 12:39pm

Cattle out 3-4 weeks now. You can really see the way some of the Friesians thrive compared to other animals and even other Friesians. Most cattle have coated or nearly coated. A good few have only the underbelly to clean off.

wrangler · 12-04-2021 7:50am

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Cattle out 3-4 weeks now. You can really see the way some of the Friesians thrive compared to other animals and even other Friesians. Most cattle have coated or nearly coated. A good few have only the underbelly to clean off.

Similar here, they've really cleaned off, they're still in the shed though.
Different looking animals...... time of the year I suppose

ABitofsense · 13-04-2021 6:41pm

Cows nearly finished the 1st rotation here and very little grass ahead of them. The growth has being very bad. Cold spell has really stunned it. I'm going to give a bale or 2 and slow them up & hopefully growth picks up. I was looking at pictures this time last year & the grass difference is crazy.

Grazing 2021

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