* Ag Science Predictions / discussion / aftermath * (One thread please)

Westsa · 21-06-2011 9:54pm

DanielGibbons wrote: »

Sorry westsa, just realised it was both of you :P

No problem.

Best of luck in the exam

Westsa · 21-06-2011 10:05pm

LC2010HIS wrote: »

At the moment, I'm trying to learn dairy.....it taking ages!!!!!!

Keep going with it, as you will cover lots of material that is common with other productions, for example the care of a lamb or beef calf is the same as the care of a dairy calf. Dairy over laps with grassland and diseases of dairy and beef are the same.

LC2010HIS · 21-06-2011 10:08pm

Westsa wrote: »

Keep going with it, as you will cover lots of material that is common with other productions, for example the care of a lamb or beef calf is the same as the care of a dairy calf. Dairy over laps with grassland and diseases of dairy and beef are the same.

Im doing it out of the rapid revision book. Is that ok? Green book is scaring me:(

Westsa · 21-06-2011 10:20pm

LC2010HIS wrote: »

Im doing it out of the rapid revision book. Is that ok? Green book is scaring me:(

Yes that's fine. But have a look at past exam papers as you study. All the answer to past exam papers can be found under marking schemes in exam material archive. This will help. website is www.examinations.ie

paperplane93 · 21-06-2011 11:55pm

Hi just wondering how important dental formulas are for the exam.
There in the rapid revision book but I cant find them mentioned anywhere in the syllabus. Does anyone know if there has ever been a question on them ?

rainbowtrout · 22-06-2011 12:01am

paperplane93 wrote: »

Hi just wondering how important dental formulas are for the exam.
There in the rapid revision book but I cant find them mentioned anywhere in the syllabus. Does anyone know if there has ever been a question on them ?

Dental formulas have appeared on past papers both higher and ordinary level. Have a look back through the last couple of years.

._. · 22-06-2011 12:38pm

K, slightly dreading Ag Science.

Brains? · 22-06-2011 2:14pm

is it better for the likes of Q9, the 'scientific explanation', to write a paragraph(s) or just simple bullet points? or does it matter?

Vodkat · 22-06-2011 2:29pm

Brains? wrote: »

is it better for the likes of Q9, the 'scientific explanation', to write a paragraph(s) or just simple bullet points? or does it matter?

I would personally recommend bullet points. Just so you don't end up waffling and the examiner doesn't have to search for your main points.

._. · 22-06-2011 2:38pm

Wait, so last year's paper was considered a tough paper?

Brains? · 22-06-2011 2:47pm

Vodkat wrote: »

I would personally recommend bullet points. Just so you don't end up waffling and the examiner doesn't have to search for your main points.

Thanks!:)
And how many points would you recommend for each answer?

rainbowtrout · 22-06-2011 3:13pm

Brains? wrote: »

is it better for the likes of Q9, the 'scientific explanation', to write a paragraph(s) or just simple bullet points? or does it matter?

It makes no difference once the correct answer is in there somewhere, but what Vodkat said is good advice.

Brains? wrote: »

Thanks!:)
And how many points would you recommend for each answer?

Going on the marking schemes for the past few years you need three correct points to get full marks for each scientific explanation, so really that's what you are aiming for. You may wish to write more to just make sure.

galwayman17.. · 22-06-2011 6:43pm

now that construction is finished my $***ting a br!ck for ag science can really begin! iv been revising genetics, soil, fertilisers,experiments, the uestion 9's and i have a good understanding of pigs, sheep and cattle. will i be able to get a good C or a low B?

frenchy1992 · 22-06-2011 6:55pm

Yea I'd say it's fairly possible according to how well you did in your oral / project..
Did you study your crops as well btw ?

NotExactly · 22-06-2011 7:01pm

Does anybody have the experiments typed up/on a digital file or can email me them? & also any other typed up notes. Thanks

galwayman17.. · 22-06-2011 7:55pm

frenchy1992 wrote: »

Yea I'd say it's fairly possible according to how well you did in your oral / project..
Did you study your crops as well btw ?

ino barley medioker. and i no potatoes well.

well my project id say i got less than 15% because me and my teacher dont quite see eye to eye!..:mad: hate that man but anyway you no any hints or is ag science too hard to predict?

galwayman17.. · 22-06-2011 7:57pm

NotExactly wrote: »

Does anybody have the experiments typed up/on a digital file or can email me them? & also any other typed up notes. Thanks

go onto eircom studyhub (if you have eircom broadband) and look at genetics, mitosis mieosis. its similar but sorry thats all i no because my notes aint printed!

rockycoolness22 · 22-06-2011 8:05pm

Im doing Ordinary Level and am so screwed for tomorrow. Hopefully all will be okay!

doctorg · 22-06-2011 9:07pm

Are there any predicted experiments for tomorrow?
Anyone pretty sure?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 22-06-2011 9:32pm

Can anyone give me a website where I can find all the experiments!? Its fairly urgent seeing as the exam is tomorrow (lawl!) but yea, lost my experiment copy a few weeks back and just competely neglected getting them! Help!!!!!!!

Griffen262 · 22-06-2011 9:40pm

galwayman17.. wrote: »

go onto eircom studyhub (if you have eircom broadband) and look at genetics, mitosis mieosis. its similar but sorry thats all i no because my notes aint printed!

Can you copy and paste them?...Throw a link my way somehow!

galwayman17.. · 22-06-2011 10:00pm

Griffen262 wrote: »

Can you copy and paste them?...Throw a link my way somehow!

this is it here create your own account and also genetics is on it too

Griffen262 · 22-06-2011 10:35pm

galwayman17.. wrote: »

this is it here create your own account and also genetics is on it too

Ahh Mr.G-man...you see, as you said yourself, only Eircom customers! In my part of the country we did away with Eircom along time ago.

therunaround · 22-06-2011 11:58pm

Can anyone give me a website where I can find all the experiments!? Its fairly urgent seeing as the exam is tomorrow (lawl!) but yea, lost my experiment copy a few weeks back and just competely neglected getting them! Help!!!!!!!

without being smart, all the experiments are in your textbook- at the end of each chapter in the green book, at the end of each section in the white book, and all together in the revision book. If you know the steps to take in each one well then you should get away with an incorrect result/ conclusion lightly enough.

Also if you read back through the thread ul get the link to eoin Jacksons predictions, however id be cautious as there are far more than 20-25 experiments, and possible more than 50, as there is no properly defined syllabus

The trick is, learn them as best you can, but if you cant remember then you can make up an experiment or trial yourself, and you could still pick up plenty of marks.

The best of luck and the best advice is to attempt all parts of question one, as it carries the most marks

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 23-06-2011 12:24am

Don't have a textbook - just notes! Thanks anyways for the help!

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 23-06-2011 12:22pm

Not a bad paper at all! I was never going to get higher than a C anyways but I may have pulled one off! If I actually studied the dam subject I may have pulled off a high B low A... ah well!

And of the only three experiments I knew they all came up! lol

crayon1 · 23-06-2011 12:38pm

I thought it was a challenging enough paper! But it's over now!!!

galwayman17.. · 23-06-2011 1:06pm

this paper was hard i thought. but i think i did reasonably ok. now i must go....my pint a vodka wont drink itself!!!!:D:D:D

Vodkat · 23-06-2011 1:18pm

Couldnt be any happier!! Loved Q. 5 and Q.3 opt 2 experiments were great!! So delighted to be finished. Can't wait for my results now!! I'm shattered so going to have a few hours sleep and then heading out!! Woohoo:D:D

Griffen262 · 23-06-2011 1:22pm

galwayman17.. wrote: »

this paper was hard i thought. but i think i did reasonably ok. now i must go....my pint a vodka wont drink itself!!!!:D:D

Your at home, now go to bed G-man... :rolleyes:

Now, I dont do Biology or Geography, but fúck me pink, when did Ag.Science become a combination of these two subjects?

:(

conorod · 23-06-2011 1:27pm

Overall quite a nice paper, much better than I was expecting! Flocculation and dry matter of potatoes were brilliant experiments to come up - did them both this year and last year so knew them well. Q5 was very straightforward, most of it from the biology course anyway and the genetics question was lovely too.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 23-06-2011 1:29pm

Griffen262 wrote: »

Your at home, now go to bed G-man... :rolleyes:

Now, I dont do Biology or Geography, but fúck me pink, when did Ag.Science become a combination of these two subjects? :(

Well some one's in a cranky mood?! lol

NotExactly · 23-06-2011 1:32pm

conorod wrote: »

Q5 was very straightforward, most of it from the biology course anyway and the genetics question was lovely too.

i taught the genetics question was phrased awkwardly. Anyone else think the same?

Indestructable · 23-06-2011 1:34pm

9:3:3:1 ?

Griffen262 · 23-06-2011 1:37pm

THFC wrote: »

Well some one's in a cranky mood?! lol

Haha! Nah, just not a nice way to finish off the exams. Thought it was fairly hard, the mocks was a piss-take compared to todays paper though...Just wasn't ready for it*

Blames shíte teacher*:P

conorod · 23-06-2011 1:50pm

NotExactly wrote: »

i taught the genetics question was phrased awkwardly. Anyone else think the same?

How so?

I suppose they could have been more specific about "what proportion" (i.e. say that they wanted it as a percentage/ratio, etc.) but I thought overall it was quite clear, and the cross was very straightforward thankfully.

._. · 23-06-2011 2:54pm

I'm happy with how it went

!!! · 23-06-2011 2:54pm

Question 1 was a bitch

Ave Sodalis · 23-06-2011 3:29pm

!!! wrote: »

Question 1 was a bitch

Wasn't too happy with Q1 either but I think I got my 6 parts...

Overall I was very happy

LC2010HIS · 23-06-2011 3:31pm

Horrible for me.

I had to write the "desperate note" to the examiner

Probably failed. The post mortem with friends killed me ..

!!! · 23-06-2011 4:24pm

LC2010HIS wrote: »

Horrible for me.

I had to write the "desperate note" to the examiner
Probably failed. The post mortem with friends killed me ..

What did it say? I considered it loads of times but didn't :L

Same though, and I'm a repeat too.

therunaround · 23-06-2011 4:28pm

Indestructable wrote: »

9:3:3:1 ?

Yep
Q7b- part 1- Three quarters of the popn. OR 3 hairy: 1 hairless

part 2- One quarter of the population OR 1 short : 3 long
(3 long: 1 short acceptable)

Part 3- 9:3:3:1

A dihybrid cross got you this answer. The statement that the genes were "not linked" may have prompted people to do 2 separate monohybrid crosses in which case they would have still gotten parts 1 and 2, but might have had to guess part 3.

Q7b was the trickiest question on it, while the test for Nitrogen in 2c might have thrown a few, but I thought that paper was good.

Now go and enjoy yereselves and forget about it

Farmer poet · 23-06-2011 6:14pm

Q1 -- did grand , wasn't the worst.
Q2 -- diphenalymine for nitrogen yea, blue?
Q3 opt 2, strip grazing fodder for sheep....wasn't sure what to say...said workload, water, no waste of fodder...
Milk quality was the reazurin one i think..

CokeyBear · 23-06-2011 7:01pm

Excellent paper IMO, there were some parts I didn't know if you used your head and common "agricultural" sense they were easy to answer.

LC2010HIS · 24-06-2011 9:28am

!!! wrote: »

What did it say? I considered it loads of times but didn't :L

Same though, and I'm a repeat too.

Dear examiner, please please pass me. Enjoy your summer"

Whats that smell? Oh ya, desperation...:rolleyes:

tippman1992 · 24-06-2011 12:28pm

Just a quick question. Can/is the refractometer method used to find the DM of a potato?

conorod · 24-06-2011 1:10pm

No, refractometer only tells you sugar content.

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