Two new Trek Series coming. What do you want?

TheValeyard · 05-02-2020 9:37pm

Brian? wrote: »

I don’t see the point to be honest. TOS was based on a 5 year mission exploring deep space. What the enterprise did before that isn’t really interesting, it was all the discovering that made it great.

For all we know Pikes mission discovered plenty of new worlds, races, etc

GreeBo · 05-02-2020 10:25pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

For all we know Pikes mission discovered plenty of new worlds, races, etc

The one mission of his we do know about was ridiculously interesting ending up with a no fly zone around a planet of pulsing brain people... I'm in!

Inviere · 06-02-2020 5:03pm

Brian? wrote: »

What the enterprise did before that isn’t really interesting

Well, it doesn't seem interesting because it hasn't been written yet...outside of a few canon references to certain things (and some non canon book related stuff which is almost universally crap). I think there's huge scope for a two or three season (short season) show there to cover a considerable array of in-universe content.

The big seller is Mount makes a great Captain to engage viewers, so with some clever writing, I feel there's definite potential there. Lord knows I'm as sick of prequels as the next person, but Mount might win me over....it'd all come down to the writing. There's some big lessons to be learned from Discovery, so who knows.

Brian? · 06-02-2020 7:23pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

For all we know Pikes mission discovered plenty of new worlds, races, etc

We’ve already had 4 series doing that. The Original Series, TNG, Voyager and Enterprise. With diminishing returns.

I liked the Pike in Discovery, but you can’t build a whole series around someone being charismatic. Ultimately we know what happened to them all. Pike ends up in a wheel chair thing, Spock becomes first officer of Kirk. Where’s the suspense if they’re in danger?

I want a new series, with new characters who can be put in danger and killed occasionally. One of the big problems with Discovery is that the main characters were never in actual peril.

The same goes for most of Star Trek I suppose. It’s ultra rare that anyone is actually killed off. Tasha and Judzea (sp?) Dax are the only 2 I can think of.

Give me a load of Romulans who try to infiltrate the Borg or a few Klingon pacifists.

I’d still be happy with Pike as long as section 31 weren’t in it. Have I mentioned I hate them?

Inviere · 08-02-2020 10:17am

Brian? wrote: »

Ultimately we know what happened to them all.

Unfortunately yeah, that's the thing about prequels...you're only really exploring within the confines of a predetermined end result. There are some adventures to be had in between landmark events, but yeah, it's not quite the same is it. There's a problematic trend of prequel focused ideas in Star Trek since, well, Enterprise really...so I don't see that mold breaking any time soon.

However, given what I've seen of Star Trek recently, a Pike show could be an optimistic return to form (end result aside). I'll take it, given the options.

I’d still be happy with Pike as long as section 31 weren’t in it. Have I mentioned I hate them?

You mean you don't like the super shadowy non-existent intelligence branch that everybody knows about? Same, the concept has been absolutely butchered. DS9 nailed it, heck, even Enterprise got it right a century before Discovery, but it's awful tripe now.

Brian? · 08-02-2020 12:22pm

Inviere wrote: »

Unfortunately yeah, that's the thing about prequels...you're only really exploring within the confines of a predetermined end result. There are some adventures to be had in between landmark events, but yeah, it's not quite the same is it. There's a problematic trend of prequel focused ideas in Star Trek since, well, Enterprise really...so I don't see that mold breaking any time soon.

However, given what I've seen of Star Trek recently, a Pike show could be an optimistic return to form (end result aside). I'll take it, given the options.

There's an entire universe of options. It'd be such a pity to play safe.

You mean you don't like the super shadowy non-existent intelligence branch that everybody knows about? Same, the concept has been absolutely butchered. DS9 nailed it, heck, even Enterprise got it right a century before Discovery, but it's awful tripe now.

DS9 got them bang on. It was a new concept that made sense. To have them operating entire fleets in Disco was pure ridiculous.

Inviere · 08-02-2020 2:45pm

Brian? wrote: »

There's an entire universe of options. It'd be such a pity to play safe.

I can only guess that there's a big fear of a post-Voyager time, in that Voyager brought back enough tech to fundamentally change Star Trek as we know/knew it. With the advent of Picard, hopefully studios and writers start flexing their creativity somewhat, and indeed exploring that universe of options. In a sense though, things that hamper prequels (like recycling the 'exploring strange new worlds concept' also affects sequels. I always felt Star Trek was really at its best when it was exploring the human condition, warp drive and phasers are only a vehicle for a real exploration.

DS9 got them bang on. It was a new concept that made sense. To have them operating entire fleets in Disco was pure ridiculous.

Compounded then with the black comm badges, and everyone knowing about Section 31...ridiculous. The first time we seen them in-timeline was in Enterprise, and they were very much like the DS9 organisation, just a little more primitive, as it should be. Discovery comes along then & basically gave us the Starfleet version of the Obsidian Order/Tal Shiar. Those organisations worked because of a culture of state controlled media & military...it's a bust for the Federation though, and needs to be literally cloaked in secrecy because it openly goes against the founding principles.

Calhoun · 10-02-2020 1:06am

I love hated this poll, as there were so many good options. Id have them all please.

If I was to pick two, Pike would be the safe bet as Anson Mont was excellent. For the other id love to see it maybe from the perspective of a non-federation species.

AllForIt · 13-02-2020 1:13am

Anything as long as hold to the original - more or less self contained episodes. And boldly going.

Chiorino · 17-02-2020 2:26pm

I was disappointed that this project never got off the ground, always thought it could have been very interesting.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation

Evade · 17-02-2020 2:34pm

Sounds a lot like Andromeda or where STD looks like it's heading.

AMKC · 17-02-2020 5:37pm

Chiorino wrote: »

I was disappointed that this project never got off the ground, always thought it could have been very interesting.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation

That would have been so much better than the 3 action films we got instead.

Evade wrote: »

Sounds a lot like Andromeda or where STD looks like it's heading.

Maybe it does but it would have been done in the Star Trek universe so much better. I so would have preffered that than the 3 JJ trek films we got.

TheValeyard · 17-02-2020 9:19pm

Evade wrote: »

Sounds a lot like Andromeda or where STD looks like it's heading.

That might not be a bad thing.

Minime2.5 · 25-02-2020 2:01am

Id like another enterprise series set in the 26th century .

corkie · 13-03-2020 11:36pm

Confirmed:
Captain Pike And The Enterprise
To Be Star Trek’s Next Show

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/star-trek-pike.html

https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/captain-pike-star-trek-spinoff-series-reportedly-development/

pixelburp · 13-03-2020 11:40pm

Kinda ironic that the thing folks have wished for the most in this new era of Trek, had been another prequel show, ha. You'd imagine this won't be a hard one to get going, given the Enterprise bridge set is already built. Even much of the costumes, piping notwithstanding.

That first link mentions two more in development, with Enterprise being one. Wonder what the other is.

Spear · 14-03-2020 1:12am

Another Canadian Directors Guild listing has appeared:

https://www.dgc.ca/en/ontario/productionView?p=54665

It refers to something called Strange New Worlds.

Inviere · 14-03-2020 7:49am

corkie wrote: »

Confirmed:
Captain Pike And The Enterprise
To Be Star Trek’s Next Show

Is that the actual name they've gone with?

Brian? · 14-03-2020 10:55am

corkie wrote: »

Confirmed:
Captain Pike And The Enterprise
To Be Star Trek’s Next Show

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/star-trek-pike.html

https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/captain-pike-star-trek-spinoff-series-reportedly-development/

I’ll watch it. But it doesn’t excite me.

Brian? · 14-03-2020 10:57am

How about they make a series set after Voyager? New Cree, new ship and new discoveries. Maybe exploring the gamma quadrant.

Evade · 14-03-2020 12:23pm

Brian? wrote: »

How about they make a series set after Voyager? New Cree, new ship and new discoveries. Maybe exploring the gamma quadrant.

It would gave to be set after Picard to remove the prequel restraints but yeah moving forward is better.

AMKC · 14-03-2020 12:36pm

Spear wrote: »

Another Canadian Directors Guild listing has appeared:

https://www.dgc.ca/en/ontario/productionView?p=54665

It refers to something called Strange New Worlds.

Star Trek:Strange New Worlds.

Its ok but sounds more like the title of a book.

Brian? wrote: »

How about they make a series set after Voyager? New Cree, new ship and new discoveries. Maybe exploring the gamma quadrant.

The problem I see with the Gamma Quadrant is that must or at least a lot of it was controlled/ruled by the Founders and the Dominion so most of them world's will now know of the Federation. Some might want to join some might not they might even be angry that the Federation won the war as they might have done well under there former leaders. Anywhere that was not under the former Empire are either very far from the wormhole or are at least as powerful or more powerful than the Founders and the Dominion were so unless tey wan t to trade will have no interest in the Federation.

Myself I would like to see a long mission ship in the 26th or 27th century exploring the Delta Quadrant too see what the after effects of it from Voyager and to a lesser extent the Equinox has been. What do races there think of the Federation now and the two ships that were from it that traveled through it.

Brian? · 14-03-2020 12:44pm

AMKC wrote: »

Star Trek:Strange New Worlds.

Its ok but sounds more like the title of a book.

The problem I see with the Gamma Quadrant is that must or at least a lot of it was controlled/ruled by the Founders and the Dominion so most of them world's will now know of the Federation. Some might want to join some might not they might even be angry that the Federation won the war as they might have done well under there former leaders. Anywhere that was not under the former Empire are either very far from the wormhole or are at least as powerful or more powerful than the Founders and the Dominion were so unless tey wan t to trade will have no interest in the Federation.

Myself I would like to see a long mission ship in the 26th or 27th century exploring the Delta Quadrant too see what the after effects of it from Voyager and to a lesser extent the Equinox has been. What do races there think of the Federation now and the two ships that were from it that traveled through it.

That sounds decent as well. Just something new.

Spear · 14-03-2020 1:40pm

AMKC wrote: »

Star Trek:Strange New Worlds.

Its ok but sounds more like the title of a book.

It was the title of a series of Star Trek books, so they already have the trademark. But it may suggest a return to the older style of exploration based stories.

AMKC · 14-03-2020 9:03pm

Spear wrote: »

It was the title of a series of Star Trek books, so they already have the trademark. But it may suggest a return to the older style of exploration based stories.

That's what I thought alright but was not sure.

corkie · 17-03-2020 3:02pm

pixelburp wrote: »

That first link mentions two more in development, with Enterprise being one. Wonder what the other is.

Star Trek: Seven of Nine
! ? ! ? ! ? !

Fans have loved seeing Jeri Ryan back as an older, more human Seven, too, who’s suffered tragedy yet come out the other end stronger. But could her Picard comeback lead to her own spinoff?

Star Trek: Picard Showrunner Has Pitched A Seven Of Nine Spinoff
^^^ May contain spoilers for latest Picard episodes.

Stark · 17-03-2020 4:11pm

Jonathan Del Arco said in a recent interview that Jeri Ryan was their second choice for lead if Patrick Stewart said no. So definitely something they've been thinking about.

AMKC · 17-03-2020 4:48pm

I would say no doubt if Jeri Ryan wants to do it and why would'nt she that they will do a spin off with her. Maybe call it Star Trek: Seven

Inviere · 17-03-2020 5:44pm

AMKC wrote: »

I would say no doubt if Jeri Ryan wants to do it and why would'nt she that they will do a spin off with her. Maybe call it Star Trek: Seven

Of any of the spin-off's mooted & confirmed, a show centered on Seven would get my vote. I just think Ryan nails the role, and she's lost nothing since Voyager. There's huge scope to explore her arc, potentially even bringing back/concluding some of the Voyager character arcs too.

ixoy · 19-03-2020 1:58pm

Inviere wrote: »

Of any of the spin-off's mooted & confirmed, a show centered on Seven would get my vote. I just think Ryan nails the role, and she's lost nothing since Voyager. There's huge scope to explore her arc, potentially even bringing back/concluding some of the Voyager character arcs too.

I'm possibly being a bit unfair here but Star Trek actors aren't always the strongest... Some had trouble escaping the shadow of the show but others aren't that good. Jeri Ryan though is one of the strongest of the actors (and actually had a successful post-Trek acting career) and her work on Picard showed she could do lead role work.

Inviere · 19-03-2020 2:04pm

ixoy wrote: »

I'm possibly being a bit unfair here but Star Trek actors aren't always the strongest... Some had trouble escaping the shadow of the show but others aren't that good. Jeri Ryan though is one of the strongest of the actors (and actually had a successful post-Trek acting career) and her work on Picard showed she could do lead role work.

Fully agree, some can be hit and miss (sometimes the writing doesn't help), but Ryan has acting chops, and it shows. She's brilliant

Kirby · 28-03-2020 9:43am

My issue is that she doesn't sound, behave or act like Seven any more. She sounds like Jeri Ryan.

Ryan herself talks about this in an interview where she states that she was panicking before her first shoot on Picard as she tried to find the distinctive Seven voice and mannerisms. And then the people in charge told her not to bother.

This for me was a massive mistake. I'm not saying characters don't or shouldnt evolve. People change over the course of a decade for sure but they don't have personality transplants. Too much L.A. sass and not enough borg for me.

I found it distracting and disappointing to be honest. I'm a bigger fan of Voyager than most on here and Seven of Nine and her relationship with both Janeway and the Doctor was a big part of that. I saw very little of that character in Picard. Perhaps the flashback with Icheb was the only bit that rang true.

Inviere · 28-03-2020 10:15am

Kirby wrote: »

People change over the course of a decade for sure but they don't have personality transplants. Too much L.A. sass and not enough borg for me.

There's been what, 20 years of development? I'm glad to see evolution in these characters...it'd be ridiculous to see the characters not having grown or changed at all in two decades. Seven especially, she has almost certainly spent a lot of time rebuilding herself, her personality, her identity.

Brian? · 28-03-2020 12:18pm

Kirby wrote: »

My issue is that she doesn't sound, behave or act like Seven any more. She sounds like Jeri Ryan.

Ryan herself talks about this in an interview where she states that she was panicking before her first shoot on Picard as she tried to find the distinctive Seven voice and mannerisms. And then the people in charge told her not to bother.

This for me was a massive mistake. I'm not saying characters don't or shouldnt evolve. People change over the course of a decade for sure but they don't have personality transplants. Too much L.A. sass and not enough borg for me.

I found it distracting and disappointing to be honest. I'm a bigger fan of Voyager than most on here and Seven of Nine and her relationship with both Janeway and the Doctor was a big part of that. I saw very little of that character in Picard. Perhaps the flashback with Icheb was the only bit that rang true.

She had the doctor fandangle her cortical whatsit so she had the full array of human emotions, in the penultimate episode of Voyager. I'd expect her to be completely different after 20 years, she had a cry with Chakote in the finale.

I'd say the most interesting part of 7's character was her evolution towards being human again. This is the result. If anything I was a little disappointed she still used the name 7 of 9.

Evade · 28-03-2020 12:22pm

I think what makes Seven being different more jarring is that she doesn't look 20 years older. Jeri Ryan must have a really decrepit portrait in her attic.

TheValeyard · 29-03-2020 12:00am

Evade wrote: »

I think what makes Seven being different more jarring is that she doesn't look 20 years older. Jeri Ryan must have a really decrepit portrait in her attic.

Season two spoilers

Slydice · 29-03-2020 1:54am

Maybe she's born with it, maybe it's nanoprobes!

corkie · 12-04-2020 7:57pm

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List of shows probably nobody wants in the spoiler.

Evade · 12-04-2020 8:02pm

corkie wrote: »

^^^ Who is the WE in the above title?

People who've heard of Star Trek and have to crank out a bunch of low effort blog posts every day?

pixelburp · 12-04-2020 8:45pm

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corkie · 12-04-2020 9:13pm

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AMKC · 12-04-2020 11:18pm

07. Lursa And B'Etor

As a Klingon series this could work if they were it it for some of the series or even just a season maybe see the bad parts of the Klingon Empire the ones that wanted to sell them out to the Romulans so you could have some Romulan elements in it too and maybe some Federation as well.

06. Q Continuum

That could be good if done right. We could get to see Q everywhere watching and even annoying lots of races. Imagine some episodes of the Next Gen from a Q perspective.

05. Guinan

I would not mind a show on her if it was done right but it would probably not be so best to just leave it.

04. Holodeck Sure just get all the Holodeck episodes from all the trek shows put them together and job done.

pixelburp · 15-05-2020 3:59pm

CBS has made a series order for the Pike spin-off:

The streamer has given a series order to “Star Trek: Strange New Worlds” starring Anson Mount as Captain Christopher Pike, Rebecca Romijn as Number One and Ethan Peck as Science Officer Spock. The series will follow Pike, Spock, and Number One in the decade before Captain Kirk boarded the U.S.S. Enterprise as they explore new worlds around the galaxy.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-trek-series-anson-mount-ethan-peck-rebecca-romijn-cbs-all-access-1234607259/

TheValeyard · 15-05-2020 4:18pm

I like the name.

TheIrishGrover · 19-05-2020 12:02pm

corkie wrote: »

^^^ Edited my post with a ClickBait warning, probably nobody wants the shows listed?

Christ Almighty. How dare you besmirch my poll with that list? Betazed? Ferengi? What the hell is Galactic Core even supposed to mean?

Yeah, great news about Pike series. We all knew it was coming but nice to see anyway.

Would be nice to see a non-Federation show set in the Trek universe. When Gotham was announced I thought it was a great idea: Normal cops on the beat doing their thing with vague references to vigilantes and more extreme villains...... I didn't get through 3 episodes.

AMKC · 20-05-2020 3:35pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Christ Almighty. How dare you besmirch my poll with that list? Betazed? Ferengi? What the hell is Galactic Core even supposed to mean?

Yeah, great news about Pike series. We all knew it was coming but nice to see anyway.

Would be nice to see a non-Federation show set in the Trek universe. When Gotham was announced I thought it was a great idea: Normal cops on the beat doing their thing with vague references to vigilantes and more extreme villains...... I didn't get through 3 episodes.

Awe that's a pity. I enjoyed all of Gotham and would happily watch the whole series all over again. BatWomen do I struggled at the beginning thinking this is just terrible and some of it is but its getting better. The flash on the other hand. I am on season 6 and the writing just gets worse and worse. Thinking of just giving up on it at this stage as its a lost cause. It does have one of the freakiest villains I have ever seen in what is supposed to be a family show do.

Justin Credible Darts · 21-05-2020 5:14am

A lwaxana Troi show ??

Seriously this has to be a windup

Two new Trek Series coming. What do you want?

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