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Results since 31 December, the first 3 weeks of January I wasnt really tracking but even with exercising most days I was losing feck all so I cut out all of the carbs i.e potatoes, bread etc etc, so really ive been following a keto slash dirty keto diet the last 3 weeks & boom the weight has started dropping nicely!
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I have to disagree, I think the human body is a lot more complicated than merely calories in vs calories out. I personally believe that eating 3000kcals spread out over the day is not the same as consuming 3000kcals during an 8 hour window and then fasting for 16 hours. ...............
From my own experience a 700/800 kcal deficit per day resulted in a 1.5lb/week weight loss, consistently over 6 months.
That's fact, not personal belief. When I went back to maintenance kcals I stopped losing weight.
Calories is energy, you burn what you burn.
IF may have an impact on the rate of burn but I would think it's minimal in % terms............ I personally believe that eating 3000kcals spread out over the day is not the same as consuming 3000kcals during an 8 hour window and then fasting for 16 hours. ...............
Folk who don't actually harp on IF fasting aren't eating every hour. I've breakfast at work at 9am and rarely eat much after 7pm.
I reckon the weight loss is due to a calorie deficit and so too is the reduced brain fog and bloating............ In addition to weight-loss I also notice increased energy and reduced brain fog, and I have much less bloating in general................
IF is essentially introducing a calorie deficit.
IF and eat your maintenance kcals and see how you get on
the Harvard spiel essentially details this..............
"“There is evidence to suggest that the circadian rhythm fasting approach, where meals are restricted to an eight to 10-hour period of the daytime, is effective,” she confirmed, though generally she recommends that people “use an eating approach that works for them and is sustainable to them.”
So, here’s the deal. There is some good scientific evidence suggesting that circadian rhythm fasting, when combined with a healthy diet and lifestyle, can be a particularly effective approach to weight loss, especially for people at risk for diabetes. (However, people with advanced diabetes or who are on medications for diabetes, people with a history of eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia, and pregnant or breastfeeding women should not attempt intermittent fasting unless under the close supervision of a physician who can monitor them.)
Key piece is "evidence to suggest", that's not fact.
Energy in v energy out is fact.......... fair enough loads of folk might find eating 2 rather then 3 meals a day effective in losing weight as they cannot seem to control their energy in amount by any other way. Grand. IF is still essentially just a diet, a reduction in intake.0 -
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From my own experience a 700/800 kcal deficit per day resulted in a 1.5lb/week weight loss, consistently over 6 months.
That's fact, not personal belief. When I went back to maintenance kcals I stopped losing weight.
Calories is energy, you burn what you burn.
IF may have an impact on the rate of burn but I would think it's minimal in % terms.
Folk who don't actually harp on IF fasting aren't eating every hour. I've breakfast at work at 9am and rarely eat much after 7pm.
I reckon the weight loss is due to a calorie deficit and so too is the reduced brain fog and bloating.
IF is essentially introducing a calorie deficit.
IF and eat your maintenance kcals and see how you get on
Yes and no I think. I would have been "it's all down to calories" myself until recently when my brother pushed me to Jason Fung's Obesity Code book, the central thesis oh which is that weight is essentially determined by insulin resistance. I was extremely sceptical but the referenced science seemed to stack up (and I am a biological scientist). Been doing it (IF and ~keto diet) for six weeks and the results in my post above I'm really happy with. Obviously there's a calorie element to it too - quite possibly most of the effect - but I think, even aside from weight loss etc, it's undoubtedly true that giving the body a break from insulin (by not eating) is 'a good thing'. Changing one's mindset from "must eat three meals plus snacks" to "nah, I don't need to eat now" has been a very important change for me.0 -
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Padraig Mor wrote: »........Obviously there's a calorie element to it too - quite possibly most of the effect -............
That's my point. Most of the effect is the calorie element IMO.
If folk who lost weight by means of IF tracked their calories and weight loss that would be very clear
The weight loss is by means of a calorie deficit that is the result of fasting for a large window of their waking day.
Well done on your weight loss, IF and Keto is my idea of hell tbh so fair play, I hope it continues to work for you longterm.0 -
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Rylee Purring Textile wrote: »Well done to everyone here on their weight loss journeys. I haven't posted before but I have been reading all the weight loss threads for the past year, and have found them a good support. Although I really envy the speed at which many of you see the pounds drop - some of you have lost in a few weeks what it has taken me 6 months to achieve!
Today marks a year since I decided I had to seriously do something about my weight. My weight gain was rapid and mostly down to medical issues and my diet was pretty good anyway, so it has been hard. I'm down from 80kg to 62.5kg. That puts me just barely in the healthy BMI range. My target, agreed with doctors and dietitian, was 64kg. But now that I have reached it I'm not really happy to stop there. Although I am pleased with my progress this year, I want to be back at 54kg.
My calorie allowance has been 1200 for the past year (lowest the dietitian will approve). Over Christmas I ate a bit more, though still healthy, and I have found that I will gain weight if I go over a weekly average of 1500. I'm advised to go up to 1400 now and just try maintain, but I'm not really happy with that. I use MFP and I weigh everything and record everything, so I'm confident the calories are fairly accurate. It's just frustrating when I see friends of a similar size lose weight while still eating 1400-1500 calories. And if they cut to 1200 they would see rapid results.
Just posting here mostly to get my own thoughts in order and consider how to proceed. Best of luck to you all and thanks for the inspiration over the past year.
Firstly, welcome to Boards!
I think we'll all agree that counting calories is a good guide to keeping track of what you eat, but the problem is that not all calories are created equal. For example, did you know that a well done steak has more calories than say a medium-rare? Or that it takes our body twice as much energy to break down wholegrain bread when compared to white bread? Here's a great article from Scientific American: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/science-reveals-why-calorie-counts-are-all-wrong/0 -
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