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Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,583 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I remember seeing him and hearing his name in September 1997 when I started in CBC in cork and he was involved helping the school. He seemed like a decent guy and him and Greg ahern were running the senior cup team in Christians for the majority of my six years there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Darren Sweetnam played AIL over the weekend. I imagine he'll get a run out against Zebre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,778 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Officials for our game on Friday evening v Zebre
    Zebre vs Munster at Stadio Giovanni Mari, Legnano
    Referee: Dan Jones (Wales)
    Assistant referees: Manuel Bottino (Italy), Rhys Jones (Wales)
    Television match official: Sean Brickell (Wales)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Players who are fit and didn't play against the Kings so could be in line to feature against Zebre

    L.O'Connor
    Barron
    Archer
    O'Shea
    Oliver
    O'Sullivan
    O'Donnell
    Casey
    Arnold
    Sweetnam
    L.Coombes
    Wooton


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭slingerz


    yerrahbah wrote: »
    Players who are fit and didn't play against the Kings so could be in line to feature against Zebre

    L.O'Connor
    Barron
    Archer
    O'Shea
    Oliver
    O'Sullivan
    O'Donnell
    Casey
    Arnold
    Sweetnam
    L.Coombes
    Wooton


    I wouldnt expect they would all be involved. I reckon we will lose JOD/Farrell from last week.

    Wont see wholesale changes really


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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I imagine half of those players come in to the side. The best available team will then feature against Scarlets.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,847 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    slingerz wrote: »
    I wouldnt expect they would all be involved. I reckon we will lose JOD/Farrell from last week.

    Wont see wholesale changes really

    JVG stated last week that the squad would be heavily rotated over this three game block with everyone getting some game time, so I'm expecting changes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    slingerz wrote: »
    I wouldnt expect they would all be involved. I reckon we will lose JOD/Farrell from last week.

    Wont see wholesale changes really

    Both named in the Ireland squad yesterday


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2020/02/20/munster-trio-sign-contract-extensions/

    Conway: 3 year deal
    Loughman: 2 year deal
    Holland: 1 year deal


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Kevin O'Byrne 2020
    Rhys Marshall 2021
    Niall Scannell 2021

    Diarmuid Barron Year 2
    Eoghan Clarke Year 2


    James Cronin 2021
    Dave Kilcoyne 2020
    Liam O'Connor 2022
    Jeremy Loughman 2022

    James French Year 2
    Josh Wycherley Year 2


    Stephen Archer 2022
    John Ryan 2022
    Brian Scott 2020
    Ciaran Parker 2020

    Keynan Knox Year 3 & 2022

    Tadhg Beirne 2022
    Billy Holland 2021
    Jean Kleyn 2022
    Sean O'Connor 2020
    Darren O'Shea 2020
    RG Snyman 2022
    Fineen Wycherley 2021

    Thomas Ahern Year 2
    Paddy Kelly Year 1
    Eoin O'Connor Year 1


    Arno Botha 2020
    Gavin Coombes 2021
    Chris Cloete 2022
    Tommy O'Donnell 2021
    Jack O'Donoghue 2021
    Peter O'Mahony 2021
    Jack O'Sullivan 2023
    Conor Oliver 2020
    CJ Stander 2021

    Jack Daly Year 2
    John Hodnett Year 1


    Craig Casey 2021
    Neil Cronin 2021
    Nick McCarthy 2021
    Conor Murray 2022

    Jack Stafford Year 3

    Tyler Bleyendaal 2021
    Joey Carbery 2022
    JJ Hanrahan 2021

    Jake Flannery Year 1
    Ben Healy Year 2


    Sam Arnold 2020
    Damian de Allende 2022
    Chris Farrell 2022
    Dan Goggin 2022
    Alex McHenry 2021
    Rory Scannell 2021

    Sean French Year 2

    Andrew Conway 2023
    Liam Coombes 2021
    Shane Daly 2021
    Keith Earls 2021
    Matt Gallagher 2022
    Mike Haley 2021
    Calvin Nash 2021
    Darren Sweetnam 2021
    Alex Wootton 2021

    Alan Tynan Year 3
    Jonathan Wren Year 2

    2019/20 NIEs:
    Arno Botha (capped), Chris Cloete (uncapped)

    IN: RG Snyman (LK, Honda Heat), Damian de Allende (CT, Panasonic Wild Knights), Matt Gallagher (FB, Saracens)
    OUT:

    Out of Contract:
    Kevin O'Byrne
    Dave Kilcoyne
    Ciaran Parker
    Brian Scott
    Sean O'Connor
    Darren O'Shea
    Arno Botha
    Conor Oliver
    Jack Stafford
    Sam Arnold
    Alan Tynan


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Delighted for Billy Holland. Terrific player.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,656 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Great deal for Conway. Happy out for Holland too. And Loughman of course


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    We badly need to grow a, mad monster of a Limerick tighthead prop...


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,189 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Out of Contract:
    Kevin O'Byrne
    Dave Kilcoyne
    Ciaran Parker
    Brian Scott
    Sean O'Connor
    Darren O'Shea
    Arno Botha
    Conor Oliver
    Jack Stafford
    Sam Arnold
    Alan Tynan


    Kilcoyne and KOB the only 2 who stay from that list?


  • Registered Users Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Kirk Van Houten


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Kilcoyne and KOB the only 2 who stay from that list?

    One of Parker or Scott will stay, probably Parker given Scott's injuries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Arnold has gotten so many recent starts he's surely in line for an extension, though Munster are stacked in the backline positions already.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I said it in the 20s thread but you lot have a potential star in Thomas Ahern. He’s an athletic freak who has been my stand out for the Irish 20s this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Faugheen wrote: »
    I said it in the 20s thread but you lot have a potential star in Thomas Ahern. He’s an athletic freak who has been my stand out for the Irish 20s this year.

    Stunning but he's a very recent convert from back 3 to second row (2 years afaik) rather than being a freak ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Caranica wrote: »
    Stunning but he's a very recent convert from back 3 to second row (2 years afaik) rather than being a freak ;)

    Did he have a growth spurt? :pac: strange that he’d be left playing back three being that big.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Caranica wrote: »
    Stunning but he's a very recent convert from back 3 to second row (2 years afaik) rather than being a freak ;)

    I honestly didn’t know that. He’s taken to it like a duck to water anyway. His work rate matches his athleticism.

    I would have loved to have seen the damage a 6’9 full back could have done though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2019/01/17/video-introducing-the-academy-thomas-ahern/

    Interview on Munster site from January 2019. He says he changed "last year" but also early 2017. They talked a lot about it when he scored that wonder try for Ireland v Scotland the first weekend of the under 20s, after a blistering run down the field. I'm sure they said 2018 which would tie in with "last year".


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Caranica wrote: »
    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2019/01/17/video-introducing-the-academy-thomas-ahern/

    Interview on Munster site from January 2019. He says he changed "last year" but also early 2017. They talked a lot about it when he scored that wonder try for Ireland v Scotland the first weekend of the under 20s, after a blistering run down the field. I'm sure they said 2018 which would tie in with "last year".
    he was a Munster youth in September 17 in second row and was playing in row a while before that. I would have coached aides/reffed his age group in Munster a fair bit and his move to 2nd row wasnt as late as some are making it out to be


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    yerrahbah wrote: »
    12 games played so far this season
    Munster have used 46 players
    Kevin O’Byrne and Archer have played all 12 games
    Rory Scannell, JJH and JO’D have played in 11 games
    In terms on minutes played Rory Scannell is top with 766 minutes, JO’D with 717, Haley with 705,
    Holland with 674 and JJH with 648

    30 trys with 20 different try scorers
    15 trys from the forwards and 15 from the backs
    Botha, Mathewson and Conway all have three each

    Three yellow cards
    Haley, Cronin, Marshall.
    One Red Card
    Botha

    Players yet to feature:

    Carbery, Sean O'Connor, Parker, Scott.

    Players who have since left the club, Mathewson and Holloway
    Player Mins played after 12 games Minutes in the last 6 games
    R.Scannell 766 326
    JOD 717 303
    Haley 705 320
    Holland 674 338
    JJH 648 339
    Archer 599 294
    S. Daly 538 138
    Botha 494 138
    C. Farrell 480 400
    Goggin 475 187
    Stander 455 389
    TOD 452 194
    Whycherly 438 147
    KOB 425 135
    J Loughman 381 145
    J Cronin 373 202
    Conway 363 283
    J. Kleyn 355 307
    N. Scannell 343 277
    TB 340 80
    C. Nash 335 160
    POM 320 240
    Earls 320 320
    C. Murray 304 280
    Alby M 262 33
    Sweetnam 240 0
    Cloete 235 87
    J. Ryan 207 154
    Nick McC 202 78
    LOC 192 88
    Darren O'Shea 191 61
    S. Arnold 179 93
    R. Marshall 178 68
    L. Coombes 177 80
    Beirne 159 159
    Knox 123 32
    Wooton 120 80
    N.Cronin 116 25
    Holloway 98 9
    C. Casey 76 64
    JOS 66 0
    Healy 61 61
    Kilcoyne 55 55
    Oliver 37 15
    G. Coombes 34 9
    Barron 19 0

    18 games played so far this season
    Munster have used 49 players
    Kevin O’Byrne and Rory Scannell have played in 17 games of those games
    With Archer, JO’D and JJH 16 playing in 16 of those games
    In terms on minutes played Rory Scannell is top with 1188 minutes, JO’D with 1109, Haley with 1091, JJH with 1000 and Holland with 980

    52 trys with 27 different try scorers
    24 trys from the forwards and 28 from the backs
    Botha has 6 tries, JO’D, Daly and Conway all have 4 tries

    Four yellow cards
    Haley, Cronin, Marshall, Cloete
    One Red Card
    Botha

    Players yet to feature:

    Sean O'Connor, Parker, Scott.

    Players who have left the club: Mathewson and Holloway

    Player Mins played after 6 games Mins played after 12 games Mins played after 18 games
    R.Scannell 440 766 1188
    JOD 414 717 1109
    Haley 385 705 1091
    JJH 309 648 1000
    Holland 336 674 980
    Archer 305 599 803
    S. Daly 400 538 780
    Whycherly 291 438 774
    Goggin 288 475 770
    Botha 356 494 717
    C. Farrell 80 480 640
    N. Scannell 66 343 639
    Stander 66 455 615
    KOB 290 425 594
    C. Nash 175 335 555
    TOD 258 452 541
    POM 80 320 540
    J Loughman 236 381 536
    C. Murray 24 304 510
    Conway 80 363 493
    S. Arnold 86 179 482
    J Cronin 171 373 480
    Earls 0 320 480
    J. Kleyn 48 355 425
    Cloete 148 235 410
    J. Ryan 53 207 392
    TB 260 340 340
    Darren O'Shea 130 191 326
    Sweetnam 240 240 315
    Nick McC 124 202 291
    Kilcoyne 0 55 273
    Alby M 229 262 262
    N.Cronin 91 116 232
    JOS 66 66 217
    Knox 91 123 214
    LOC 104 192 192
    R. Marshall 110 178 178
    L. Coombes 97 177 177
    Beirne 0 159 159
    C. Casey 12 76 145
    G. Coombes 25 34 124
    Wooton 40 120 120
    Carbery 0 0 104
    Holloway 89 98 98
    Healy 0 61 97
    Hodnett 0 0 63
    Oliver 22 37 37
    Barron 19 19 34
    Flannery 0 0 5



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Surprised that Alby hasn't been picked up by another club yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,189 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Caranica wrote: »
    Surprised that Alby hasn't been picked up by another club yet

    Ulster bound apparently


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Ulster bound apparently

    I was thinking Ulster would be the perfect club for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Caranica wrote: »
    Surprised that Alby hasn't been picked up by another club yet

    He is not that good that’s why not picked up

    Hopefully not going to Ulster, is the U20 scrum half not in Ulster?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    He is not that good that’s why not picked up

    Hopefully not going to Ulster, is the U20 scrum half not in Ulster?

    He was our best scrum half last season. And for portions of this season.

    Any team would be massively benefited by having him, for the influence and knowledge he brings to younger players if nothing else


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    He was our best scrum half last season. And for portions of this season.

    Any team would be massively benefited by having him, for the influence and knowledge he brings to younger players if nothing else

    He just blocked Casey from getting any game time


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,656 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    He just blocked Casey from getting any game time

    Wasn't Casey on a development contract last season and playing with u20s? If a player is good enough they will be brought up to senior side. Only 21 in April so till young and has been given his chances this season


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