Pro14 Season 2019-2020

Cookiemunster · 17-02-2020 1:10pm

razorblunt wrote: »

there's absolutely no way Edinburgh get 5k or anywhere near that.
2-3 tops even when the Irish teams are playing.

They work off of tickets issued not "through the turnstile" I'd say.

So you're claiming that in a 67000 stadium that you can tell the difference between 3000 and 4000? Sure you can.

Paul Smeenus · 17-02-2020 1:13pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Cardiff look out of contention in Conference B. Their run-in is too difficult. It's going to be quite a scrap between Edinburgh, Munster, Scarlets and Connacht.

Ulster's loss at Ospreys gives Cheetahs some hope of finishing second. Cheetahs have six remaining home games and two of their away games are at Dragons and Kings. Ulster host Cheetahs this weekend and a win is vital. Glasgow are up against it as their run-in is tricky.

We really dropped the ball at the weekend. Hopefully a sharp wake-up call.

razorblunt · 17-02-2020 3:14pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

So you're claiming that in a 67000 stadium that you can tell the difference between 3000 and 4000? Sure you can.

No, but you can tell the difference between 2000 and 5000.

For the games now they only open 4 "sections", the 4 sections hold combined ~1500 seats, pitchiside might have ~200 say, and the camera side might have ~100 (of corporate tickets, family friends of players etc).

aloooof · 17-02-2020 3:21pm

razorblunt wrote: »

No, but you can tell the difference between 2000 and 5000.

For the games now they only open 4 "sections", the 4 sections hold combined ~1500 seats, pitchiside might have ~200 say, and the camera side might have ~100 (of corporate tickets, family friends of players etc).

I'm no good at judging the size of crowds, but I'd say there's about seventeen million of them.

razorblunt · 17-02-2020 3:40pm

aloooof wrote: »

I'm no good at judging the size of crowds, but I'd say there's about seventeen million of them.

Every single one of them booing!

17-02-2020 3:55pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Every single one of them sarcastically cheering!

FYP

awec · 17-02-2020 8:24pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

because many Welsh dont like the league/regions and prefer to attend/support their clubs ahead of pro rugby.
What should change iin the pro14 in your opinion then?

There's that, but also the fact that the population of Wales is only a bit bigger than the population of Leinster, and it has to support 4 pro teams.

The Lost Sheep · 17-02-2020 8:30pm

awec wrote: »

There's that, but also the fact that the population of Wales is only a bit bigger than the population of Leinster, and it has to support 4 pro teams.

and all Welsh regions are in south/west Wales.
Bangor/wrexham/colwyn bay all closer to liverpool than the rugby sides down south.
Rugby is national game though so they get more of best athletes in the country than us in general.

Zzippy · 17-02-2020 10:21pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

they do support it. Wouldnt say its dying a death. Think calling international support bandwagon isnt really the truth. Hate phrase bandwagon as it's some fans trying to make themselves appear superior to others. It's far from zero support below international.

It's well documented in Wales by the likes of Simon Thomas. Loads of support for test games from fans who emerge from hibernation for the 6N and treat the games as a social occasion, massive drunkenness and anti-social behaviour on those weekends, so much so the WRU trialled an alcohol-free section in the stadium for families. Virtually none of these attend club or regional rugby. Bandwagon is a perfect way to describe it, and no judgement or superior attitude thanks, just stating an opinion that is widely held by fans and media in Wales too.

thomond2006 · 21-02-2020 10:26pm

The top three in conference B have created a bit of a gap from the chasers, assuming Scarlets get the maximum at home to the Kings.

awec · 22-02-2020 8:50pm

Another week, another Pro14 game buried on Eir Sport 2 and unavailable on Sky.

Will be ringing up to cancel on Monday.

Pro14 need to ditch these clowns swiftly.

Bridge93 · 22-02-2020 8:54pm

Yep Eirsport should be let go and die slowly. Useless channels with **** all on them. Good riddance

Bazzo · 23-02-2020 3:28pm

If it's any consolation I pay for premier sports here and all their streams went down from 20 mins into the first half of the Connacht match til the kick off of the second half.

23-02-2020 3:53pm

Bazzo wrote: »

If it's any consolation I pay for premier sports here and all their streams went down from 20 mins into the first half of the Connacht match til the kick off of the second half.

Rugbypass started to block VPNs the week after they automatically auto-renewed my subscription without notice.

thomond2006 · 23-02-2020 8:24pm

Round 13

Edinburgh vs Cardiff
Leinster vs Glasgow
Zebre vs Ospreys
Benetton vs Ulster
Munster vs Scarlets
Dragons vs Cheetahs
Kings vs Connacht

Cookiemunster · 24-02-2020 1:10pm

Both games in Italy have been called off next weekend due the carona virus outbreak.

thomond2006 · 24-02-2020 1:13pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Both games in Italy have been called off next weekend due the carona virus outbreak.

Benetton have already got a game in hand to play next week. That's going to be quite a pile up.

LuckyGent88 · 25-02-2020 11:32am

Liam Williams signs with scarlets from now. Great pick up and great to have him back in the pro14.

connemara man · 27-02-2020 11:17pm

2 games cancelled this week due to the coronavirus

An Italian ref was meant to head to SA but has been replaced by a hometown ref.

I don't see this calming down for a while, could the season be in jeopardy?

awec · 27-02-2020 11:17pm

Personally I'd just give Leinster the trophy now and save everyone the hassle.

connemara man · 27-02-2020 11:19pm

awec wrote: »

Personally I'd just give Leinster the trophy now and save everyone the hassle.

If a few more weeks of games get postponed that might happen there'll be no time to play all the games

Squidgy Black · 27-02-2020 11:26pm

Did I hear someone say replace the remaining games with interpros?

Cheetahs will be get second place in conference A in no timr

Cookiemunster · 28-02-2020 12:25pm

Statement from the Pro14.

Beyond the two postponements this weekend, all scheduled Guinness PRO14 fixtures are set to go ahead – including the refixed Round 11 game between Dragons and Benetton Rugby on March 6.

A process has already begun to find alternative dates for this weekend’s postponed fixtures involving Zebre Rugby Club v Ospreys and Benetton Rugby v Ulster Rugby.

In the event that any future games are postponed and no alternative dates can be found to ensure the fixture is fulfilled, the board of Celtic Rugby DAC has agreed that both teams will be awarded two match points and the game will be deemed a 0-0 draw.

stephen_n · 28-02-2020 2:00pm

awec wrote: »

Personally I'd just give Leinster the trophy now and save everyone the hassle.

So no different than before covid19 then

thomond2006 · 29-02-2020 8:56pm

Edinburgh (47):
Kings (A), Cheetahs (A), Benetton (H), Ulster (A), Ospreys (H), Munster (H), Connacht (A), Glasgow (H)

Munster (45):
Benetton (A), Benetton (H), Cardiff (H), Leinster (A), Glasgow (H), Edinburgh (A), Scarlets (A), Connacht (H)

Scarlets (37):
Connacht (A), Dragons (H), Kings (A), Cardiff (H), Benetton (A), Leinster (H), Munster (H), Ospreys (A)

Top three as it stands in Conference B. Connacht to play the Kings tomorrow and likely get to 35 points.
The Benetton fixtures are up in the air right now...

gally74 · 29-02-2020 11:54pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Edinburgh (47):
Kings (A), Cheetahs (A), Benetton (H), Ulster (A), Ospreys (H), Munster (H), Connacht (A), Glasgow (H)

Munster (45):
Benetton (A), Benetton (H), Cardiff (H), Leinster (A), Glasgow (H), Edinburgh (A), Scarlets (A), Connacht (H)

Scarlets (37):
Connacht (A), Dragons (H), Kings (A), Cardiff (H), Benetton (A), Leinster (H), Munster (H), Ospreys (A)

Top three as it stands in Conference B. Connacht to play the Kings tomorrow and likely get to 35 points.
The Benetton fixtures are up in the air right now...

Think the whole competition will be stopped soon, might be played behind close doors, but all large public events will soon be banned

01-03-2020 12:40am

I could easily see a bulk of matches being played behind closed doors for much of the remainder of the season it not cancelled all together. That's Six nations, Heineken cup, Pro14.

Wouldn't be surprised if we're home schooling our kids by the end of march.

thomond2006 · 02-03-2020 12:43pm

Edinburgh (47):
Kings (A), Cheetahs (A), ERCC QF, Benetton (H), Ulster (A), Ospreys (H), Munster (H), Connacht (A), Glasgow (H)

Munster (45):
Benetton (A), Benetton (H), Cardiff (H), Leinster (A), Glasgow (H), Edinburgh (A), Scarlets (A), Connacht (H)

Scarlets (37):
Connacht (A), Dragons (H), ERCC QF, Kings (A), Cardiff (H), Benetton (A), Leinster (H), Munster (H), Ospreys (A)

Connacht (35):
Scarlets (H), Zebre (A), Glasgow (H), Benetton (A), Ulster (H), Cardiff (A), Edinburgh (H),

thomond2006 · 02-03-2020 12:48pm

Ulster (41):
Benetton (A), Dragons (H), Glasgow (A), ERCC QF, Dragons (A), Edinburgh (H), Connacht (A), Glasgow (H), Zebre (A), Leinster (H)

Glasgow (34):
Ospreys (A), Ulster (H), Connacht (A), Cheetahs (H), Munster (A), Ulster (A), Ospreys (H), Edinburgh (A)

Cheetahs (32):
Leinster (H), Edinburgh (H), Ospreys (H), Glasgow (A), Zebre (H), Dragons (H), Benetton (H)

errlloyd · 02-03-2020 1:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I could easily see a bulk of matches being played behind closed doors for much of the remainder of the season it not cancelled all together. That's Six nations, Heineken cup, Pro14.

Wouldn't be surprised if we're home schooling our kids by the end of march.

To be fair to them, Edinburgh have been doing this as a precaution for the last 14 seasons.

Burkie1203 · 05-03-2020 10:30am

Italy v england postponed

Cannot see pro14 taking the alternative route of playing games behind closed doors given its in the most impacted area of Italy.

Podge_irl · 05-03-2020 10:34am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Italy v england postponed

Cannot see pro14 taking the alternative route of playing games behind closed doors given its in the most impacted area of Italy.

Way less to lose for the Pro14 in playing behind closed doors though. The postponement as opposed to closed doors is, I'm sure, as much financial as anything else.

Burkie1203 · 05-03-2020 10:41am

Podge_irl wrote: »

Way less to lose for the Pro14 in playing behind closed doors though. The postponement as opposed to closed doors is, I'm sure, as much financial as anything else.

I get that, but imagine if a player contracts the virus as a result of a trip to northern Italy.

I Think there will be games PP in next few weeks declares as 0-0

Buer · 05-03-2020 10:48am

Unless there are government directives to the contrary, I can see the Pro14 still seeking to continue the season with a plan in place for the Italian teams whether it's for them to play in a neutral venue or just award 2 points to both teams for the remainder of the season.

Currently, there are only 6 cases in ROI, 3 in NI, 3 in Scotland and (to my knowledge) 1 in Wales. I can see them continuing with games for the time being.

jacothelad · 05-03-2020 12:33pm

Buer wrote: »

Unless there are government directives to the contrary, I can see the Pro14 still seeking to continue the season with a plan in place for the Italian teams whether it's for them to play in a neutral venue or just award 2 points to both teams for the remainder of the season.

Currently, there are only 6 cases in ROI, 3 in NI, 3 in Scotland and (to my knowledge) 1 in Wales. I can see them continuing with games for the time being.

Scotland now up to 6. I'm climbing An Teallach in the Northwest Highlands today and it was on the news on BBC Scotland. Weather is glorious....but cold as a witches ho-ha. Blue sky, tourquoise sea and snowy mountains. Paradise.

Cookiemunster · 05-03-2020 1:15pm

Benetton v Munster and Zebre v Connacht are off. European weekends being looked at as possible dates to play them.
https://www.pro14.rugby/latest/pro14/two-italian-guinness-pro14-fixtures-postponed

Burkie1203 · 06-03-2020 3:08pm

https://twitter.com/Federugby/status/1235925283217321985?s=19

thomond2006 · 06-03-2020 10:25pm

Benetton earn a TBP win at Dragons, putting them level with Cardiff with a game in hand (home to Ulster).

They're not quite out of the running just yet for the playoffs, but assuming they end up playing all their games will at best one rest week once the Pro14 restarts. With 4 LBP defeats this season looks like an opportunity lost.

Burkie1203 · 07-03-2020 9:43pm

https://twitter.com/antoguerrera/status/1236373810699546628?s=19

Both areas are where Benetton and Zebre are based are included in this.

Edit
It seems there has been a spike in cases outside the original 4 now.

07-03-2020 10:19pm

Crazy. That's 1/6th the population of Italy. In two months we've gone from early reports of a virus in China to an effective quarantine zone 1500km away from Wexford.

Burkie1203 · 07-03-2020 10:24pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Crazy. That's 1/6th the population of Italy. In two months we've gone from early reports of a virus in China to an effective quarantine zone 1500km away from Wexford.

From reading online about this, the expectation seems to be this could be for 2-3 months.

Edit

Italy pushing through emergency legislation tonight to deal with this situation. Possibility that flights will be grounded too

Burkie1203 · 07-03-2020 11:04pm

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1236409411373015040?s=19

The Italian decree, weddings and funerals banned

Any games involving the Italian sides home or away will get PP now Too

Cookiemunster · 08-03-2020 2:30am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1236409411373015040?s=19

The Italian decree, weddings and funerals banned

Any games involving the Italian sides home or away will get PP now Too

I've tried to get a handle on the ban, but haven't been able to find anything clear in English. It seems like the restrictions in Lombardy aren't as strict in the other lock down the regions, but I can't find anything that actually confirms that.

What I have been able to confirm though (thanks Twitter) is that pro sport teams can continue to train and play behind closed doors in all regions. So Serie A games should be played

As Parma and Treviso aren't in Lombardy, there's a possibility that they'll still be able to travel.

I think.

But probably they can't.

Burkie1203 · 08-03-2020 8:34am

Cookiemunster wrote: »

I've tried to get a handle on the ban, but haven't been able to find anything clear in English. It seems like the restrictions in Lombardy aren't as strict in the other lock down the regions, but I can't find anything that actually confirms that.

What I have been able to confirm though (thanks Twitter) is that pro sport teams can continue to train and play behind closed doors in all regions. So Serie A games should be played

As Parma and Treviso aren't in Lombardy, there's a possibility that they'll still be able to travel.

I think.

But probably they can't.

Lombardy grabbing the attention because of Milans importance as a financial hub in Italy. Treviso and Zebre 100% impacted. Indications are a bit vague but mid April seems to be the earliest this would be lifted. Italian medical officer seems to be hinting at running out of bed, supplies etc

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1236464319140855808?s=19

08-03-2020 10:47am

I know he's just reporting the new here, but that same journalist (Palmeri, is he a journalist?) absolutely railed against the decision to call off the Ire v Italy game, can't remember his exact words but they were along the lines of it was ridiculous and made Italy seem virus riddled.

Burkie1203 · 09-03-2020 4:32pm

Cardiff v Zebre
Munster v Benetton

Both games above to have question marks over them now

Burkie1203 · 09-03-2020 7:08pm

Italian Olympic committee has suspended all sporting events until April 3rd at earliest and is seeking a govt decree to enforce it

Cookiemunster · 09-03-2020 7:58pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Italian Olympic committee has suspended all sporting events until April 3rd at earliest and is seeking a govt decree to enforce it

Zebre have already said that they're cancelling all training for the duration.

connachta · 09-03-2020 8:05pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Zebre have already said that they're cancelling all training for the duration.

Thank you!
Cardiff game is cancelled, then

connachta · 09-03-2020 8:13pm

https://www.the42.ie/pro14-cancelled-games-italy-5039071-Mar2020/

Pro14 Season 2019-2020

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