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Cavan_King · 16-08-2020 2:12pm

Thunderbirds wrote: »

Could Killygarry not technically pass out Mullahoran?

Actually any of the clubs on 0 could if it goes on point difference. So one win could be enough for a quarter final possibly.

piplip87 · 16-08-2020 6:48pm

Ramor hammering the Geals.... Theres no sweeter victory in any sport for me to be honest. I guess Elliott will have to get the cheque book again.... Any word of what McKeirnans transfer fee was again... ?

Cavan_King · 16-08-2020 8:43pm

Draw for last round of fixtures made. I wonder how many teams will put out weakened teams? I’d like to see my own club do it to give some youth a chance.

It shouldn’t matter where you finish in the last 8 - if you think you’re good enough to win it, you should be happy to play anyone.

I watched the Kells Dunboyne game today. Conor Bradley very poor. You’d forget he was on the pitch at times,

rrs · 27-08-2020 12:02pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Ramor hammering the Geals.... Theres no sweeter victory in any sport for me to be honest. I guess Elliott will have to get the cheque book again.... Any word of what McKeirnans transfer fee was again... ?

It won't count for much if Ramor don't beat the Gaels tomorrow night. It should be a interesting game. Ramor using McEvoy as a game changer from the bench.

Lavey v Castlerahan will be close as should Gowna and Crossetlough.

Mullahoran fluked into quarter finals with 1 win v Laragh. Killygarry tipped to reach a final by some,.. They don't see out games. Nice footballers but need to be ruthless if you want to win

Cavan_King · 27-08-2020 1:33pm

rrs wrote: »

It won't count for much if Ramor don't beat the Gaels tomorrow night. It should be a interesting game. Ramor using McEvoy as a game changer from the bench.

Lavey v Castlerahan will be close as should Gowna and Crossetlough.

Mullahoran fluked into quarter finals with 1 win v Laragh. Killygarry tipped to reach a final by some,.. They don't see out games. Nice footballers but need to be ruthless if you want to win

I thought Killygarry would be a good each way bet. Looks like this year came a bit early for them but they’ve serious talent coming up, along with the Bridge. Their fate was in their own hands and they choked.

Donal Keoghan reckons Ramor could be missing Breen O’Connell & Ado Cole so has tipped the Gaels.

I think the other games will go as the bookies expect - Kingscourt, Castlerahan & Crosserlough.

Mullahoran qualifying shows what a gap there is between the teams at the top level and those coming out of intermediate like them and Laragh.

Laragh getting a big shock after tipping themselves to compete for Senior last year!

rrs · 27-08-2020 2:30pm

It was mentioned there was problems with the Laragh management this year. The same management as last year, whatever went wrong, but a gap from winning Intermediate to Senior.
They were relegated in the League last year from Division 1.

Joe Dillon seems to be playing well with Kingscourt, back after a cruciate. He'd be worth another look with the County, if the County action goes ahead in October

Ted from Denn part of the panel. I watched him in a few Sigerson games earlier in the year and wasn't that effective. He's playing well with Denn but his size would probably count against him for County Senior. His club mate Ben Conaty a bit similar to Joe Dillon strong ball winner, another player maybe worth looking at

Cavan_King · 27-08-2020 3:48pm

rrs wrote: »

It was mentioned there was problems with the Laragh management this year. The same management as last year, whatever went wrong, but a gap from winning Intermediate to Senior.
They were relegated in the League last year from Division 1.

Joe Dillon seems to be playing well with Kingscourt, back after a cruciate. He'd be worth another look with the County, if the County action goes ahead in October

Ted from Denn part of the panel. I watched him in a few Sigerson games earlier in the year and wasn't that effective. He's playing well with Denn but his size would probably count against him for County Senior. His club mate Ben Conaty a bit similar to Joe Dillon strong ball winner, another player maybe worth looking at

I believe their management are quite expensive if the rumours are to be believed. Whatever happens, they have had issues with lads just not caring this year. It can be difficult to keep lads focused after a few hard years and they've had that.

Dillon was asked by We Are Cavan if he'd be interested in county and was about to say ''absolutely'' when he gave a more politically correct reply that he wishes to focus on performing with Kingscourt. Good to hear he wants to go back in though.

I also heard rumours re Killian Clarke but I think we're better off leave him where he is. He and David Gough can compete for who can get more headlines!

James Brady from Ramor has definitely held his hand up for a call in.
Wright from Castlerahan also playing well I hear but not sure he's interested.
Danny Cusack from Lavey looks to be the man marker we need.
If only he'd convince his club mate Tierney to share a lift into Breffni with him!

celt262 · 27-08-2020 3:50pm

Cavan_King wrote: »

If only he'd convince his club mate Tierney to share a lift into Breffni with him!

Has he not been tried under a few different managers and proved not up to it at that level ?

Cavan_King · 27-08-2020 3:57pm

celt262 wrote: »

Has he not been tried under a few different managers and proved not up to it at that level ?

He was with some of the U21 panels that won Ulster and didn't make the starting line up.

In regard to the senior team, I believe only McGleenan had him in around 2017. He played a McKenna Cup game that year I believe and played fairly well but then Mattie, as he did with alot of the panel, made promises he couldn't keep and Tierney lost interest and walked.

No point promising lads they'll start games and then not even naming them on the panel.

Mickey Graham has approached him but was rebuffed.

rrs · 27-08-2020 5:03pm

I think Shane Tierney was part of the U21 set up for 3 yea, rs without actually starting. 2010 to 2012. He's a very good club player. Duke is a good player too.

I see Mickey Brennan is back with Drumalee. He's seems to yo yo between Simonstown and Drumalee a bit

Thunderbirds · 27-08-2020 7:08pm

celt262 wrote: »

Has he not been tried under a few different managers and proved not up to it at that level ?

You thinking of Kevin Tierney, not Shane Tierney.

celt262 · 27-08-2020 8:44pm

Thunderbirds wrote: »

You thinking of Kevin Tierney, not Shane Tierney.

No Shane I'm thinking off maybe he was only in once before as mentioned earlier I though he had a few goes st it.

Cavan_King · 28-08-2020 4:35pm

celt262 wrote: »

No Shane I'm thinking off maybe he was only in once before as mentioned earlier I though he had a few goes st it.

Not sure there have been enough managers there in the last seven or eight years for him to be able to have a “few goes” at it!

rrs · 28-08-2020 9:51pm

Cavan Gaels seemed to lay down a marker, 10 pt win. The Cavan steam not laying down a marker, stream wouldn't work again for me . Listehed to it on Northern Sound.
Maloney Derham making first start since retuning got a goal,. They have lots of options to now. Johnston didn't start.

Was going to be hard for Ramor to beat Cavan Gaels twice. They won well in Crosskeys, but Gaels are more confident in Breffni.

Thunderbirds · 28-08-2020 9:56pm

rrs wrote: »

Cavan Gaels seemed to lay down a marker, 10 pt win. The Cavan steam not laying down a marker, stream wouldn't work again for me . Listehed to it on Northern Sound.
Maloney Derham making first start since retuning got a goal,. They have lots of options to now. Johnston didn't start.

Was going to be hard for Ramor to beat Cavan Gaels twice. They won well in Crosskeys, but Gaels are more confident in Breffni.

Stream worked perfect for me. Gearoid some game.

Cavan_King · 28-08-2020 10:37pm

Thunderbirds wrote: »

Stream worked perfect for me. Gearoid some game.

Worked perfectly for me too. There is a test to run over on the Cavstream page and they also state you need at least 20mb speed. I’m getting 20 to 40mb on Vodafone 4g wireless and I’m in the arsehole of nowhere not near a town.

Gaels have great strength in depth. I was impressed with Gearoid, Stephen Murray, Paul O’Connor & Daragh Sexton.

Looks like championship is there’s to lose if they can dispatch of Ramor that easily.

rrs · 28-08-2020 11:33pm

Obviously Cavan Gaels have won nothing yet, but would have been interesting if the Provincial Club Championship was on this year. The addition of McKiernan is worth 3 to 4pts a game.

Cavan_King · 29-08-2020 12:06am

rrs wrote: »

Obviously Cavan Gaels have won nothing yet, but would have been interesting if the Provincial Club Championship was on this year. The addition of McKiernan is worth 3 to 4pts a game.

Not sure if he would have been about for it. He did an interview with Colm Parkinson and he’s getting married to Donna English on 17th October.

To be honest, Castlerahan last year, and our general performance in Ulster over the years, shows we are way off pace at senior club level.

rrs · 29-08-2020 12:39am

Yes, the performances haven't been good. The Tyrone club championship was live on TG4. A good quality game,it was decided by penalties. Trillick led by Mattie Donnelly, Lee Brennan won. They play straight knock out in Tyrone, so always competitive.

The system in Cavan, while it's good for Clubs to play more games, is 4 group games not too much? . Usually by the 4th game is a dead rubber .,. The likes of Laragh, Shercock this year were just completing the final few fixtures and them out of the competition

Maybe a backdoor system, might be something that they should look at. Less quantity more quality

Obviously with crowds, more games means more income for the Co board, but they should be asking is there enough competive games.. Because the record in Ulster isn't good.

baconsarnie · 29-08-2020 9:40am

Cavan_King wrote: »

Gaels have great strength in depth. I was impressed with Gearoid, Stephen Murray, Paul O’Connor & Daragh Sexton..

All four were very impressive but one thing struck me was that the Gaels got most of their match ups right. And as you said, depth of that panel looks impressive. Martin Dunne was practically anonymous and then kicked two outrageous scores. A lot of people thought that without Jelly the Gaels would struggle (nice cameo at the end as well).

My stream was flawless and I have to say, the quality of play from both sides in the first half was outstanding. Really open game, lots of top notch scores from open play. Perhaps it’s because I am starved of football!!!

Finally, Gearoid was superb. He was clearly fired up for this one!

rrs · 29-08-2020 2:25pm

Might not improve, but even from a fatigue point of view teams wouldn't be as worn out. When Kingscourt won the Championship in 2015,they played 10 games. Which included replays. They were subsequently hammered by kilcoo in Ulster.

The teams compete OK in Junior and Intermediate. But Senior is the barometer.
The Glenties who beat Crahan last year were solid with being spectacular. A few County lads were to the fore but that was a missed opportunity for Castlerahan as they were capable of beating Clontibret in the Semi

piplip87 · 29-08-2020 2:51pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Ramor hammering the Geals.... Theres no sweeter victory in any sport for me to be honest. I guess Elliott will have to get the cheque book again.... Any word of what McKeirnans transfer fee was again... ?

Jaysus this post hasn't aged well at. The Geals looked very good last night. Ramor on the other hand absolutely terrible. No point starting the Championship off with some great football and good wins of you put in a performance like that in the knockout stages.

As a Ramor man I feel the age old question of what happens to Ramor players between underage and senior. If you look back at some of the players we've produced who have all faded away at 21 or 22. Who won everything at underage level. Some excuses can be made in the noughties as Healys was open and the lads liked to drink.... This team should be winning championships but seem to choke, should have beaten Castlerahan last year, played terrible last night.

rrs · 29-08-2020 3:59pm

Ramor seemed to lose a few players around the time Michael McDermott was manager. Anton Reilly being 1.
Paul Queally was a talented corner forward.

But with all the success at under age, should be doing better. Joint managers maybe not a great thing either?

Thunderbirds · 29-08-2020 9:10pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Jaysus this post hasn't aged well at. The Geals looked very good last night. Ramor on the other hand absolutely terrible. No point starting the Championship off with some great football and good wins of you put in a performance like that in the knockout stages.

As a Ramor man I feel the age old question of what happens to Ramor players between underage and senior. If you look back at some of the players we've produced who have all faded away at 21 or 22. Who won everything at underage level. Some excuses can be made in the noughties as Healys was open and the lads liked to drink.... This team should be winning championships but seem to choke, should have beaten Castlerahan last year, played terrible last night.

Do they not produce too many similar type players? All nice footballers but light. Don't seem to have any steel. Allowed gaels to push them to ground and didn't return it. Too nice.

Cavan_King · 29-08-2020 9:31pm

Super game of football this evening. Lavey were unlucky Gerry Smith went off or they would have won that game.

I was stewarding at Breffni. Great atmosphere even with the lack of a crowd.

A lot of off the ball stuff but nice guys win nothing.

tanko · 29-08-2020 10:04pm

Did Gerry Smith do his hamstring?

Thunderbirds · 29-08-2020 10:05pm

tanko wrote: »

Did Gerry Smith do his hamstring?

Seemed to be lower down his leg???

Cavan_King · 30-08-2020 10:49am

Thunderbirds wrote: »

Seemed to be lower down his leg???

I’m going on what was said in Breffni. From Cavstream coverage I watched later, I see he was down holding round his ankle right before it but then he pulls up on a run and it looked like his hammy.

He walked into full forward for a few minutes but he ended up having to come off, injury was too bad.

piplip87 · 30-08-2020 11:43am

rrs wrote: »

Ramor seemed to lose a few players around the time Michael McDermott was manager. Anton Reilly being 1.
Paul Queally was a talented corner forward.

But with all the success at under age, should be doing better. Joint managers maybe not a great thing either?

Yes McDermott came in and basically cut plenty of the older lads and got the young team of 2016 together. Anton would have been kept on nut went travelling. Some of them older lads are on the intermediate panel and should be doing much better there.

Hopefully they can kick on hard to imagine the young team people thought would dominate for a years haven't done anything since.

rrs · 30-08-2020 2:05pm

There was a bit of steel to a few of the older players. Anton Reilly played on the edge. The Monaghans.James McEnroe apsent too, he's away working.

Cavan could do with a player like McEnroe too.

Cavan_King · 31-08-2020 1:24pm

rrs wrote: »

There was a bit of steel to a few of the older players. Anton Reilly played on the edge. The Monaghans.James McEnroe apsent too, he's away working.

Cavan could do with a player like McEnroe too.

McEnroe a quality player but I'm not that sure he was all that committed to Cavan. There were years he was still in ROI and didn't seem interested in playing. Certain clubs seem to go through phases and the Ramor lads don't seem too interested in playing for the county at the moment.

Semi final draws made

Castlerahan vs Crosserlough
Kingscourt vs Gaels

rrs · 05-09-2020 11:34am

Think it will be a Ballyhaise v Ballinagh Intermediate final, if kept apart in Semi finals. Ballinagh should beat Belturbet again tomorrow, though Belurbet might have a point to prove after the hammering last week

Ballyhaise look to be at full strength. Pauric Moore and Tierney were away for the Championship last year. David Brady was recovering from injury. Niall McDermott has given Ballinagh an outlet in attack. Kevin Smith, David Finnegan, Thomas Moore are good back up.
. Cormac Timoney playing well at centre back.

Thunderbirds · 05-09-2020 8:36pm

rrs wrote: »

Think it will be a Ballyhaise v Ballinagh Intermediate final, if kept apart in Semi finals. Ballinagh should beat Belturbet again tomorrow, though Belurbet might have a point to prove after the hammering last week

Ballyhaise look to be at full strength. Pauric Moore and Tierney were away for the Championship last year. David Brady was recovering from injury. Niall McDermott has given Ballinagh an outlet in attack. Kevin Smith, David Finnegan, Thomas Moore are good back up.
. Cormac Timoney playing well at centre back.

Pauric Moore not gone back to Middle East?

tanko · 06-09-2020 10:01am

Is there any truth to the talk that the county board are considering moving games to Enniskillen so that 400 spectators would be able to attend?

rrs · 06-09-2020 10:59am

I doubt that would be allowed. Inniskeen managed by Oisin McConville wanted to play championship games in Armagh so spectators could attend, but weren't allowed.

If there was 400 spectators from Cavan going to Fermangh, it would be giving Fermangh Co board a potential problem if people were carrying the virus.

Remains to be seen if Inter County will have crowds so unlikely they would start letting fans go into another county to watch club football. 13th of September is when they are reviewing it.

Cavan_King · 15-09-2020 9:40pm

Yevon wrote: »

Are they releasing the numbers that are tuning the streaming? It's something i'd love to see them keep up. Stream each competition from the Quarter Finals onwards. It's a great opportunity for neutrals to view games that they probably wouldn't get out and attend as well as those abroad etc.

Would be great if they could stream future inter county League games too.

Intercounty training now back and I hear there are a few new additions to the squad.

celt262 · 15-09-2020 9:54pm

Cavan_King wrote: »

Intercounty training now back and I hear there are a few new additions to the squad.

Go on.....

cavan4sam · 16-09-2020 10:56pm

Rte showing the county final..

rrs · 18-09-2020 10:39am

I'd say lots of County panels will have new additions with players having performed in the Club Championship. Clare have a few lads back who were suppose to be travelling. Jamie Malone, Gary Brennan. The Murtagh brothers are back with Roscommon.

Bit strange that all four semi finals are Sunday. They usually have a few games across the weekend.

Cavan_King · 19-09-2020 4:54pm

celt262 wrote: »

Go on.....

Don’t have too many names. Danny Cusack (Lavey) & Oisin Brady (Killygarry) are in there anyway.

I don’t think any of the panel members who left like Killian Clarke have gone back.

cavan4sam · 20-09-2020 9:27pm

So Crosserlough v Kingscourt on Rte next weekend,
What kind of a game are we in for?
I was surprised how easy Kingscourt had it against the Gaels

mugsymugsy · 20-09-2020 9:32pm

cavan4sam wrote: »

So Crosserlough v Kingscourt on Rte next weekend,
What kind of a game are we in for?
I was surprised how easy Kingscourt had it against the Gaels

Didn't watch but heard it on the radio big surprise but well deserved by all accounts

rrs · 20-09-2020 9:45pm

Kingscourt controlled the game. The loss of Faulkner didn't really effect them. Some big performances by Barry Tully, Alan Clarke, Peter Corrigan and Barry Reilly.
Cavan Gaels flatter to deceive again. One big performance with a mediocre one.
McKiernan was playing well early but was rattled by the attention and was losing his focus.

Crosserlough v Castlerahan was a good game, lot of mistakes on either side added to the excitement. As keoghan said on commentary, it was a bad mistake not to start Paul Smith.

Ballinagh v Ballyhaise was decent. Kevin Smith playing great stuff. He was always a good club player. Not sure if he was ever asked into the County. McDermott was very good too, and will likely get a County recall.
Michael Brady for Ballyhaise is a good prospect, kicked a few quality scores. David Brady had his moments. Tierney was poor enough.

mugsymugsy · 26-09-2020 8:39pm

A draw!!! Final kick of the game. I thought kingscourt had it.

Game ebbed and flowed - I think a fair result overall.

tanko · 26-09-2020 8:48pm

Fair enough result in the end alright but Kingscourt will be kicking themselves that they didn’t close it out in injury time with a two point lead. Crosserlough got the last point very easily.

crackity_jones · 26-09-2020 9:17pm

Crosserlough got the last point very easily.

They also got a helping hand from the referee who added enough time for them to get the leveling score. 5 minutes was the stated injury time. The whistle was blown close to 7 mins extra played and there were no injuries or stoppages in those five minutes.

I know they do it all the time but I can never understand how it's fair to give teams another chance to level a game that should be blown up at the stated time.

rrs · 26-09-2020 9:24pm

It was a rally good game of football. Referees have a hard job but he had some really strange calls. Kingscourt didn't get much from the ref and the game should have been blown up before Crosserlough equaliser as was well over 5th minute

Barry Reilly showed bits of class that to a National audience. Faulkner was excellent and was being hauled down and kept coming back. Moved to midfield to curtail James Smith and done well.

Crosserlough play lovely direct ball. A lot of pace in the full forward line, Paddy Lynch will plsyu Senior County before long

cavan4sam · 27-09-2020 12:19am

A great game of football,
Decent quality scores, hard hitting and exciting
The public seem to have enjoyed it going by social media
Looking forward to the replay, I assume it'll be on cavstream?
Some great fielding and not much short kickouts, my type of game well done to both teams
Also crowds looked to be fairly spread out to which hopefully will help with the national media spotlight on the game

Cavan_King · 27-09-2020 8:49am

crackity_jones wrote: »

Crosserlough got the last point very easily.

They also got a helping hand from the referee who added enough time for them to get the leveling score. 5 minutes was the stated injury time. The whistle was blown close to 7 mins extra played and there were no injuries or stoppages in those five minutes.

I know they do it all the time but I can never understand how it's fair to give teams another chance to level a game that should be blown up at the stated time.

Not the first time he has done it this year. Earlier in the year, he played 8 minutes to allow Gowna to equalise against Lavey I think it was when five minutes had been announced. Several supporters reckon he also told the Gowna bench there was a minute left when they had a free 4 minutes into injury time.

Unfortunately, he had a poor performance yesterday. It’s a pity the best ref in Cavan Noel Mooney appears to be taking a year out - I haven’t seen him ref any games anyway.

Not to draw from a great game though and a fine showcase for the county. Fair play to both teams. I had friends from other counties texting me that it was game over 15 minutes into it but I warned them that Kingscourt never give up.

Padraig Faulkner clearly carrying an injury and still one of the best men on the pitch. James Smith and Patrick Lynch looking a cut above as well.

Thunderbirds · 27-09-2020 9:24am

Referee was very tough on Kingscourt. Should a next door neighbour be referee?

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