Clare GAA Discussion - 2024 All Ireland Hurling Champions

dohboy · 22-05-2023 6:47pm

TK's diving at the end was a smart bit of gamesmanship but it won't help the reputation we've been getting for that in the last few weeks...

windy shepard henderson · 22-05-2023 6:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120628519#Comment_120628519

Yeah we are certainly under that spotlight infairness, I don't like it but I am going to try and pass it off as the same thing as the lad with the contact lenses, or the guy that isn't injured but takes off his helmet to slow down a game

The problem with all three we saw yesterday when Cathal Barrett was injured, some Limerick players and support taught he took a dive , later they taught he was time wasting when all the time he was hurt

I don't blame the Limerick lads but the gaa need to come down harder on lads faking injury

keeponhurling · 22-05-2023 10:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120628519#Comment_120628519

He did take a hit though, and indeed he was probably also trying to slow down the game at that stage. Harmless enough. Doubt many players would have hopped up to help the opposition get it forward quickly for an equalizer.

the Rory Hayes one a few weeks ago was worse, not to mention Aaron Fitz last year

roashter · 23-05-2023 3:03pm

Clare v Tipp should be in Limerick, and Clare v Cork/Limerick should be in Thurles.

Would be hard to see how GAA justify dragging Clare fans all the way to Cork especially during this cost of living crisis.

supernova5 · 23-05-2023 7:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120631683#Comment_120631683

they did it for the League final between Limerick and Kilkenny which was probably even worse, we all know the Gaa don't care about spectators and possible extra expenditure, they will do what ever suits them like they've always done

windy shepard henderson · 23-05-2023 10:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120632752#Comment_120632752

the fact that cork already got the league final would suggest that the munster final will be on in limerick if its clare v tipperary

Even though its the main hurling venue thurles has only held the two finals on the same year on 10 occasions since 1980

limerick was the last venue outside of thurles back in 2008 to host both finals the same year

apparently the Munster council traditionally are reluctant to award the Munster final to a venue that has hosted a league final

if i were a betting man i would be backing limerick to get the final

Figerty · 24-05-2023 7:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633313#Comment_120633313

Saw online that there is talk of going to Cork for the final. FFS do the GAA not know the cost that people are carrying at the moment and going to Corks is only adding to costs; have they map of Ireland that might show them the stupidity of even thinking of Cork for Tipp and Clare people?

opinionated3 · 24-05-2023 8:59am

Irish examiner reporting that cork would be the forerunner to host a Clare Tipp final. I travelled to cork the last time we played there( against Wexford). The fans voted that time by staying at home. Iirc it was around 12000 that attended that day. There was literally an echo around the stadium at times. I know this is different because it's a final, but I imagine Brian lohan wouldn't be too happy with the Munster council if they decide to drag fans down to cork for a match which clearly should be on in Limerick.

windy shepard henderson · 24-05-2023 9:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634069#Comment_120634069

They are a cork newspaper they reported something similar for the Munster football final and didn't get it , it will be on in Limerick if it's Tipperary we are playing

roashter · 24-05-2023 9:54am

Capacity wise, Cork is only slightly bigger (by 797) according to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_stadiums?wprov=sfla1

So doesn't make sense to bring it all the way down to Cork.

I assume when people say Munster council are appointing cork as venue then it must go to a vote, so I would imagine if it's Clare v Tipp then Clare, Limerick and Tipp would surely vote for Limerick with cork voting for cork. Don't know what way Waterford or Kerry would vote.

I still find it hard to believe how Munster council could justify cork for a Munster final involving Clare.

Figerty · 24-05-2023 5:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634279#Comment_120634279

Cork has been underused so I can see why they want to push games down there. With the cost of living, and the number of games in Munster, sure there is some cop on to know that the costs aren't viable. 5 matches in Munster, 5 in the U20s 5 in the Minor, is 15 games.. even if you attended a fraction of these it's a case of managing cost.

Tipp might vote for Cork as venue.

windy shepard henderson · 24-05-2023 7:35pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCY6_9esKEw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUQawuP_BRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHPemlD0OXc

post match interviews from sunday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMl8q-hb78c

windy shepard henderson · 28-05-2023 1:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633903#Comment_120633903

its not going to happen , the examiner will always front up about hosting the final , but there is too much on in the city that weekend and they wont have the guards to start with , limerick have pull in the gaa at the moment too , oliver mann is highly taught of in croke park and is considered a future candidate for gaa president he will ensure parc na geal is ready if its tipp v clare

lim4ev · 28-05-2023 7:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120648973#Comment_120648973

It would be crazy to bring it to cork surely? Must be great to be a clare man today ye can sit back and watch the rest of us sweat

oppiuy · 28-05-2023 10:11am

Anyone know a website or shop that does giant flags or custom made stuff

windy shepard henderson · 28-05-2023 3:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120649108#Comment_120649108

cork were looking for it i believe , but wont get it limerick rarely get these games anyway

yeah this was the dream scenario when the fixtures came out , however we were only a puck of a ball away from the nightmare scenario where we needed resultes to go our way jus to stay alive

windy shepard henderson · 28-05-2023 3:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120649361#Comment_120649361

https://www.irishwholesaleflags.com/product/custom-flags/

keeponhurling · 29-05-2023 1:44pm

Tough battle for Limerick yesterday, hopefully Clare having an extra week off can make a difference.

In theory at least , motivation should come easier for the Clare lads too.

A huge concern is Cleary’s injury. I know Limerick have injuries too, but Cleary always did very well on Gillane so we don’t have a natural replacement. Maybe the 3 weeks will help them to get the new full back line used to working as a unit. Could they try Hogan at FB ?

I’d be reluctant to change the HB line especially facing Limerick.

Lots of speculation that the venue could be Cork. Doesn’t make much sense to me as Thurles is closer for both counties. Also easier for Clare or Limerick fans based in Dublin.

opinionated3 · 29-05-2023 5:20pm

Seeing as the Munster final was on in thurles last year, I'd imagine they will award it to cork this year. Paying for the new stadium and all that😡.

Hard to know what Lohan will do to make up for the loss of cleary. One of the few markers out there who seemed to be able to stick with Gillane. Hearing a bit of chatter about moving conlon to full back and Davy Mac to centre back with seadna at wing back. Wouldn't really want to mess around with our half back line but who else can play there? Any takers for Flanagan at full back?

keeponhurling · 29-05-2023 6:14pm

Hogan FB with Flanagan and Rory H in the corners ?

its a tricky one

Davy Mc to FB is an option as he obviously has experience there. Conlon to FB sounds pretty risky. Hogan is also risky given his youth and inexperience.

Flanagan and Gillane are pure class, no point saying otherwise . Anyone marking Flanagan needs serious physicality.

maybe most likely though is Davy Mc at FB with Morey on the wing

why did Cleary have to play every game in the league and nobody else get a chance ? This isn’t hindsight, everybody has been saying this all along

cnoc · 29-05-2023 6:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120655032#Comment_120655032

Two Flanagan's on opposite sides in the same line! Interesting!

keeponhurling · 29-05-2023 6:27pm

It happened before

pajoguy · 29-05-2023 11:21pm

What are ye at lads?

Would ye prefer to play in Limerick as opposed to Cork?

Strange goings on.

opinionated3 · 29-05-2023 11:23pm

Match should be on in thurles. Simples. And not James Owens as ref.

windy shepard henderson · 30-05-2023 12:08am

No idea whats going on , I was full sure all day it was going to be on in Cork

From what I am led to believe I think a few safety concerns is going against thurles

I would disagree with one or two Controversial media outlets online as the reason for no vote tonight, I am led to believe that not all the delegates were thare to vote tonight so the Munster council themselves will take a vote tomorrow,

It will still be cork I'd say,

I wouldn't be in favour of giving Limerick home advantage

It happened in the 1950s where Clare were red hot favourites to win and offered Limerick home advantage as it was nearer , we lost by 10 points I think 🙈🙈

opinionated3 · 30-05-2023 7:28am

What possible safety concerns would there be with thurles? Munster final was there last year with no issues. Cork seemingly have some music festival or concert on the same weekend as the Munster final. And let's be honest here, the traffic jams at buttevant and charleville would make this journey and absolute nightmare for those of us who travel down. To me, this comes across as trying to somehow get cork over the line so the profits can go towards stadium debt. The fans are, as always, way down the list of priorities

lim4ev · 30-05-2023 7:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120656377#Comment_120656377

Exactly. Limerick would suit everyone but understand why clare wouldn't want to play there.

Great occasion to look forward to though

opinionated3 · 30-05-2023 9:15am

Apparently story this morning is that the provincial council were about to go ahead and fix it for cork but Clare officially requested thurles, hence the delay.

windy shepard henderson · 30-05-2023 9:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120656401#Comment_120656401

I would prefer cork over Limerick, home advantage is huge for both teams in this fixture

keeponhurling · 30-05-2023 9:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120656151#Comment_120656151

So that means we are due home advantage this time.

Ennis it is then !

keeponhurling · 30-05-2023 9:42am

The only difference the venue makes is to the travelling fans.

For the teams and the match itself, I don't think it really makes much difference if it is in Limerick, Cork, Thurles or elsewhere.

waterwelly · 30-05-2023 9:45am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120656707#Comment_120656707

Why is there an advantage? With ~50/50 ticket allocations and a ground way closer to home I'm not seeing the issue.

opinionated3 · 30-05-2023 9:53am

I'm sorry but why is Limerick even in this conversation? Clare will not give home advantage to Limerick. That's madness. It's either thurles or cork. Cork is only being mentioned from a money standpoint. The vast majority of fans would prefer thurles. Cork would be simply a traffic nightmare.

YabaDabaDooley · 30-05-2023 9:57am

Not a hope the game will be in Limerick. Surprised some think it's a viable option.

waterwelly · 30-05-2023 10:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120656761#Comment_120656761

Limerick make sense, that's why.

Leinster hurling counties get home advantage for the all Ireland semis and final every year and nobody moans about it.

evolvingtipperary101 · 30-05-2023 10:58am

Are ye going to let the money men of limerick and cork bully ye into a stadium ye don't want?

The game has already begun.

If they get their way they've already won.

No hawkeye in there either...

Sunny Disposition · 30-05-2023 12:26pm

Thurles is the logical venue.

This shouldn't need to be debated, it should be agreed every year that Clare-Limerick munster finals should be in Thurles, Clare-Tipp in Limerick, Waterford-Tipp in Cork, Waterford-Cork in Thurles and home-away arrangements in the event of a clash involving two of Tipp, Cork and Limerick.

If this is played in Cork it is a disgrace. It will needlessly inconvenience tens of thousands of people, see increased emissions and unnecessary expenditure during a cost of living crisis.

I'd hope Clare would agree to Limerick rather than Cork, but with some concessions. Four training sessions between now and the game, and we get home advantage in the round robin in 2025. I don't think we need fear going there, we beat them there a few weeks ago.

ValentiahYes · 30-05-2023 12:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120657367#Comment_120657367

Limerick weren’t the ones proposing playing it in Limerick though.

The only ones mentioning Cork with anything confidence are the Examiner (formerly the Cork Examiner, Examiner Sport YouTube channel still has a Páirc Uí Chaoimh tribute video pinned on their channel).

Straight shot between Thurles and Limerick I reckon and more than likely Thurles.

keeponhurling · 30-05-2023 1:39pm

Article just published in the Examiner says it will take place in the Gaelic Grounds

Limerick's Gaelic Grounds to host Munster hurling final (irishexaminer.com)

opinionated3 · 30-05-2023 1:50pm

Colour me shocked. I've no idea what gain lohan thinks he's getting by playing it there

evolvingtipperary101 · 30-05-2023 1:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120657658#Comment_120657658

Limerick get home advantage for a final... talk about getting shafted. Oh, lads...

Munster council are a disgrace. Bought off it looks like.

Clare did well for their supporters to at least pull the plug on them having to go to Cork.

But that's bullshit. Neutral venues for a final, unless there's a home and away agreement, has been the case for a long time.

Cork and Limerick have way too power and money to be fought at committee and board level now it seems.

keeponhurling · 30-05-2023 2:00pm

Yeah, and where did the whole "not playing at Thurles" idea even come from I wonder ?

Very bizarre.

ValentiahYes · 30-05-2023 2:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120657739#Comment_120657739

Clare requested that it be played in Limerick.

supernova5 · 30-05-2023 2:06pm

its one thing Clare county board agreeing to concede home advantage in a Munster Senior Final but its quite another if they don't have some kind of stipulation in there like for example - Clare play Limerick in the 2025 Round Robin in Ennis and say if these 2 teams were to meet in the Munster minor or under 20 Munster final Clare get home advantage

if they have agreed straight up without any future arrangement them its just plain stupid

supernova5 · 30-05-2023 2:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120657739#Comment_120657739

its down for a 1.45pm throw in at Gaelic Grounds according to Munster Gaa.ie

ValentiahYes · 30-05-2023 2:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120657821#Comment_120657821

Why though? You’re reminding me of a quote from the Simpsons way back when it wasn’t crap;

Hello, jerry? Homer Simpson here. Remember last month when I paid back that loan? Well, now I need you to do a favour for me.

supernova5 · 30-05-2023 2:20pm

Now come on, for Christ sake its only common sense, would any other county agree to concede home advantage in a major final without getting something back - quid pro quo,

ValentiahYes · 30-05-2023 2:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120657948#Comment_120657948

Clare asked to play it in Limerick. Clare were unwilling to travel to Cork and Limerick did them a favour by agreeing to Clare’s counter proposal. It’s not in any way comparable to a normal home away agreement. You want to have the cake and eat it too.

YabaDabaDooley · 30-05-2023 2:26pm

Very surprised Clare agreed to this. Big advantage to Limerick. Great for the fans but home advantage makes this an even bigger uphill struggle for the banner imo.

ValentiahYes · 30-05-2023 2:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120658000#Comment_120658000

They didn’t agree to it, they proposed it.

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