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  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭tianna


    extrafluff wrote: »
    Is it ok to ask an estate agent that the sellers expectations are for them to accept a bid? We bid 10k under asking, a different offer came in at 5k under asking, we then bid asking price. A different offer came in at 5k over asking. We have maybe 1 or 2 last offers to make before we're at our max.

    Yes, we asked an EA the sellers expectation and he had no problem telling us they wanted 5k above the asking price.

    But if there are multiple bidders I would have to assume the seller is going to wait and see what the highest offer comes in at rather than going sale agreed once their expectation is hit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭theflash


    We paid our booking deposit yesterday and officially sale agreed now 😊 it's our forever home and ticks all the boxes so we are delighted! So nervous throughout the whole bidding process but it worked out in our favour.

    Can anyone tell me if valuations and surveys are all stopping in level 5 lockdown? I have heard differing things so not sure what will happen or when. Waiting for valuer to contact us as per brokers last message. Does anyone have any recent experience in this if their valuation went ahead in lockdown? Also when is the survey normally completed?

    Congratulations.
    We had a valuation completed today and have a survey booked in for next week. So yeah they are still continuing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    An EA just asked me for proof of funds, can someone tell me exactly what this means?

    I have AIP at the minute.


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Milena009


    Markitron wrote: »
    An EA just asked me for proof of funds, can someone tell me exactly what this means?

    I have AIP at the minute.

    Basically that you're good on money so I would provide him with Aip of course with deducted amounts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭CWF


    How long is HTB taking people to process?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    Milena009 wrote: »
    Basically that you're good on money so I would provide him with Aip of course with deducted amounts.

    That’s what I was hoping it meant, thanks!
    CWF wrote: »
    How long is HTB taking people to process?

    I’m still getting the error message


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭Cash_Q


    extrafluff wrote:
    Is it ok to ask an estate agent that the sellers expectations are for them to accept a bid? We bid 10k under asking, a different offer came in at 5k under asking, we then bid asking price. A different offer came in at 5k over asking. We have maybe 1 or 2 last offers to make before we're at our max.


    We asked and were told the figure they wanted, which was 5k over asking. We offered this figure and it was accepted.

    When selling our EA valued it between 265k and 285k and it went on the market at 265k. Of course we started out wanting 285k, thought we couldnt really afford to sell for less. Bids weren't as fast and frequent as we hoped for and we just really wanted to agree a price so in the end accepted 6k over asking. Luckily the house we bought was at the lower end of our budget so we needed less towards the deposit and could manage with the figure we accepted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭CWF


    Markitron wrote: »
    I’m still getting the error message

    When did you apply?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭lindtee


    Sweetaure wrote: »
    Did you have to look further away because you kept being outbid? We’re looking for something rather specific but there have been few house come on the market in the last year or so, and an estate agent is after telling me that they have very little to come on, especially with the lockdown being extended... we’re sale agreed on our current house a few weeks now, but the engineer won’t come out to us, so we’re in limbo...

    Was outbid on a number of houses but they were all 10-15 k from the city as I just couldn’t get what I wanted locally within my budget. The location in relation to the city was less important to me in the end, the type of house and plenty of parking (2 sons driving and 1 learning!) were high up the agenda as was having nice walks and outdoor amenities on my doorstep.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    CWF wrote: »
    When did you apply?

    I have been trying to apply since my SoL was issued last week but kept getting the error message, so the application never went through. It seems to be working now though and the application is pending.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭narodvale


    We have our closing inspection today at 12.

    Aside from looking for obvious things we missed, and taking a meter reading, is there anything else people would advise looking out for?

    This is our first home so any advice is greatly appreciated.

    Collecting the keys tomorrow, very exciting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    narodvale wrote: »
    We have our closing inspection today at 12.

    Aside from looking for obvious things we missed, and taking a meter reading, is there anything else people would advise looking out for?

    This is our first home so any advice is greatly appreciated.

    Collecting the keys tomorrow, very exciting.


    Fabulous, congratulations.


    Bins, day/schedule/supplier.



    Any contents/crap that are there or missing but included in the contract like white goods or curtains?



    Who else had keys over the years? Maybe change the locks, I was advised to do so.



    Parking permit if required?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭whatever76


    aquinn wrote: »
    Fabulous, congratulations.


    Bins, day/schedule/supplier.



    Any contents/crap that are there or missing but included in the contract like white goods or curtains?



    Who else had keys over the years? Maybe change the locks, I was advised to do so.



    Parking permit if required?

    Check the attic if there is one and ensure no surprise rubbish items up there

    Ensure Heating/Boiler working.

    best of luck !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    Just started the process of selling my home.

    I have a BER cert of C1 from last year, however, I have since got a new boiler in.

    This might bring it up to B3?

    My question is; Is it worth getting another one done (€160 cost) or is the BER rating of much importance to buyers. Was this a consideration to you when buying?

    It's not a big cost obviously, but just curious.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    Just started the process of selling my home.

    I have a BER cert of C1 from last year, however, I have since got a new boiler in.

    This might bring it up to B3?

    My question is; Is it worth getting another one done (€160 cost) or is the BER rating of much importance to buyers. Was this a consideration to you when buying?

    It's not a big cost obviously, but just curious.

    Thanks

    This is just my own thought, not based on any experience.
    If it's a house, I definitely think it would be worth paying a couple of hundred to have it bumped up to a B rating. Most houses that have had improvements done seem to be in the C range and having a B would be a differentiator.
    I'd be looking to get something else cheapish done as well to ensure the increase, like increasing the attic insulation thickness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭LasersGoPewPew


    We have been home hunting for the past year in south Dublin. Supply is poor, quality of most properties is poor. We got stuck in a few bidding wars for properties we really liked, but they reached prices which seemed ridiculous so we pulled out. We are not buying a forever home so this plays into our bidding mindset. Competition is fierce for nice properties but I am hopeful this will be our year to buy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭random_banter


    We have been home hunting for the past year in south Dublin. Supply is poor, quality of most properties is poor. We got stuck in a few bidding wars for properties we really liked, but they reached prices which seemed ridiculous so we pulled out. We are not buying a forever home so this plays into our bidding mindset. Competition is fierce for nice properties but I am hopeful this will be our year to buy.

    Same situation as yourself. Prices certainly seem to be ridiculous and comparing them to the PPR figures for the highest peak in 2018, definitely inflated due to the pandemic we feel. We're seeing 3-bed semi d's in South Dublin going for 30-70k over asking at least.

    Best of luck - like you, I hope we will get to buy this year. Sitting out the pandemic in a tiny apartment has been a wake up call on what we want for the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Fuzzy_Dunlop


    Just started the process of selling my home.

    I have a BER cert of C1 from last year, however, I have since got a new boiler in.

    This might bring it up to B3?

    My question is; Is it worth getting another one done (€160 cost) or is the BER rating of much importance to buyers. Was this a consideration to you when buying?

    It's not a big cost obviously, but just curious.

    Thanks

    Replacing the boiler is one of the best things you can do for a BER (unless it was already pretty new) so I would say it would bump you up. Could always put in more LED bulbs or something like that to try and make sure. I think it would be worthwhile getting the new BER done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    Could someone explain to me how a booking deposit works with HTB? If I go sale agreed with an EA and they request a transfer, do they then transfer it back to me later? Does it go off the mortgage total? I would rather have that money to spend on stuff after I move.


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Milena009


    Markitron wrote: »
    Could someone explain to me how a booking deposit works with HTB? If I go sale agreed with an EA and they request a transfer, do they then transfer it back to me later? Does it go off the mortgage total? I would rather have that money to spend on stuff after I move.

    Hi so,
    You never technically see the HTB funds. These go straight to developer who claims these via Revenue portal with access codes you provide the solicitor.

    If you go sale agreed, booking deposit paid (let's say 5k) and your total deposit is exactly 30k (so htb) the 5k can be refunded to solicitor to use for fees and such as far as i understand.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    Milena009 wrote: »
    Hi so,
    You never technically see the HTB funds. These go straight to developer who claims these via Revenue portal with access codes you provide the solicitor.

    If you go sale agreed, booking deposit paid (let's say 5k) and your total deposit is exactly 30k (so htb) the 5k can be refunded to solicitor to use for fees and such as far as i understand.

    Oh that's great thanks, basically I was worried about it going off the mortgage or deposit in such a way that I couldn't use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭CWF


    Help to buy approved this evening after I sent them a 'my enquiry' about getting my application fast tracked


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Sweetaure


    We paid our booking deposit yesterday and officially sale agreed now 😊 it's our forever home and ticks all the boxes so we are delighted! So nervous throughout the whole bidding process but it worked out in our favour.

    Can anyone tell me if valuations and surveys are all stopping in level 5 lockdown? I have heard differing things so not sure what will happen or when. Waiting for valuer to contact us as per brokers last message. Does anyone have any recent experience in this if their valuation went ahead in lockdown? Also when is the survey normally completed?

    We technically went sale agreed the 2nd week of December (purchaser transferred deposit to EA account, papers were sent to solicitors), but then Christmas happened, and then the new lockdown, so the engineer won’t come out to our house so we can’t proceed with the sale... hoping he’ll be allowed to come at the end of the month... although we have not yet found out next house, so we might have to rent for a few months... life is stressful at the moment!


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Sweetaure


    extrafluff wrote: »
    Is it ok to ask an estate agent that the sellers expectations are for them to accept a bid? We bid 10k under asking, a different offer came in at 5k under asking, we then bid asking price. A different offer came in at 5k over asking. We have maybe 1 or 2 last offers to make before we're at our max.

    We recently went to see a house that was really nice, it right at the top of our budget. We asked the EA what the vendors’ expectations were, as we knew that they had purchased their next house already (house was in the papers a few weeks prior). The EA told us that the sellers would accept a minimum of 9% below asking, so we went in at 8% below asking, knowing that this gave us some leeway. EA came back with counteroffer of asking price!!! So we increased to 4% below asking. Then 5 days later, the EA emailed me saying that the house had gone sale agreed!

    We were really peeved because had we known the sellers’ true expectations, we would have offered closer to asking price. And we didn’t get a chance to increase further after our 2nd offer.

    I don’t get the mind games...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Sweetaure wrote: »
    We recently went to see a house that was really nice, it right at the top of our budget. We asked the EA what the vendors’ expectations were, as we knew that they had purchased their next house already (house was in the papers a few weeks prior). The EA told us that the sellers would accept a minimum of 9% below asking, so we went in at 8% below asking, knowing that this gave us some leeway. EA came back with counteroffer of asking price!!! So we increased to 4% below asking. Then 5 days later, the EA emailed me saying that the house had gone sale agreed!

    We were really peeved because had we known the sellers’ true expectations, we would have offered closer to asking price. And we didn’t get a chance to increase further after our 2nd offer.

    I don’t get the mind games...
    I dont really see that as mind games to be honest. The other bidder may simply have not asked that question and went in at asking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Reins


    Sweetaure wrote: »
    We recently went to see a house that was really nice, it right at the top of our budget. We asked the EA what the vendors’ expectations were, as we knew that they had purchased their next house already (house was in the papers a few weeks prior). The EA told us that the sellers would accept a minimum of 9% below asking, so we went in at 8% below asking, knowing that this gave us some leeway. EA came back with counteroffer of asking price!!! So we increased to 4% below asking. Then 5 days later, the EA emailed me saying that the house had gone sale agreed!

    We were really peeved because had we known the sellers’ true expectations, we would have offered closer to asking price. And we didn’t get a chance to increase further after our 2nd offer.

    I don’t get the mind games...

    Other bidders offered the asking price. You counter offered 4% below that,correct?
    Why did you think they were going to entertain your lower offer?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Sweetaure


    Reins wrote: »
    Other bidders offered the asking price. You counter offered 4% below that,correct?
    Why did you think they were going to entertain your lower offer?!

    The owners counter offered at asking price, we don’t know what the other party offered. The EA never said that there was another offer. We were trying to bridge the gap between asking price and our offer. I think that makes sense?


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Sweetaure


    givyjoe wrote: »
    I dont really see that as mind games to be honest. The other bidder may simply have not asked that question and went in at asking.

    But then wouldn’t you think that the EA would come back to us to give us the option to offer more?

    Every time we’ve made an offer on a house, we’ve always been told that we’ve been outbid or our offer was accepted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Reins


    Sweetaure wrote: »
    The owners counter offered at asking price, we don’t know what the other party offered. The EA never said that there was another offer. We were trying to bridge the gap between asking price and our offer. I think that makes sense?

    Sorry, I'm confused by your posts.

    " The owners " counter offered on their own property??

    If there was an offer of the asking surely there can be only one party it came from " the other party "


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  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Sweetaure


    Reins wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm confused by your posts.

    " The owners " counter offered on their own property??

    If there was an offer of the asking surely there can be only one party it came from " the other party "

    What’s confusing? We made an offer, the owners counteroffered. Happens all the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Reins


    Sweetaure wrote: »
    What’s confusing? We made an offer, the owners counteroffered. Happens all the time.

    So the owners are selling their property to prospective buyers
    buyers make an offer on the property and the owners make a counter offer on the property they're trying to shift?!! " Happens all the time "
    :confused:

    " What's confusing " That :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭DubLad69


    Reins wrote: »
    So the owners are selling their property to prospective buyers
    buyers make an offer on the property and the owners make a counter offer on the property they're trying to shift?!! " Happens all the time "
    :confused:

    " What's confusing " That :rolleyes:

    I think its quite clear.

    Owner puts house up for sale

    Prospective buyer offers Say 400k

    Owners aren't happy so ask for 450k instead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,871 ✭✭✭✭klose


    Sweetaure wrote: »
    What’s confusing? We made an offer, the owners counteroffered. Happens all the time.

    How can the owners counter offer? They aren't involved in bidding, they can only accept a fee they are happy with?


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Reins


    DubLad69 wrote: »
    I think its quite clear.

    Owner puts house up for sale

    Prospective buyer offers Say 400k

    Owners aren't happy so ask for 450k instead

    That is clear - however the poster said there was a counter offer which indicates the offer came from a buyer. Sellers don't counter offer, they can say they now want the asking price which appears to what has happened here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    klose wrote: »
    How can the owners counter offer? They aren't involved in bidding, they can only accept a fee they are happy with?

    For your homework please watch 'A Place in the Sun'


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Reins wrote: »
    That is clear - however the poster said there was a counter offer which indicates the offer came from a buyer. Sellers don't counter offer, they can say they now want the asking price which appears to what has happened here.

    This is a bit weird, Yes, they obviously do. Seller rejects offer and counter offers to sell at x price. It's called negotiation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,871 ✭✭✭✭klose


    givyjoe wrote: »
    This is a bit weird, Yes, they obviously do. Seller rejects offer and counter offers to sell at x price. It's called negotiation.

    Then list the house for the price you want?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    klose wrote: »
    Then list the house for the price you want?

    The vast majority do not list their house at the price they want. They list it at a price they will generate lots of interest and multiple bidders.

    In this case, the seller DID list their house at the price they want, and the bidder here instead thought it would be wise to try and see if they could get it for less and it backfired.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Sweetaure


    givyjoe wrote: »
    The vast majority do not list their house at the price they want. They list it at a price they will generate lots of interest and multiple bidders.

    In this case, the seller DID list their house at the price they want, and the bidder here instead thought it would be wise to try and see if they could get it for less and it backfired.

    Precisely - nobody goes in at asking price, and tbh, had we known that’s what the owner wanted, we would have gone in closer to asking price in our first offer. That’s my whole point, IMO the EA wasted everybody’s time by not being “more” upfront.

    On another note, do you guys think that EAs will be able to conduct viewings at the end of the month?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,295 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Sweetaure wrote: »
    Precisely - nobody goes in at asking price, and tbh, had we known that’s what the owner wanted, we would have gone in closer to asking price in our first offer. That’s my whole point, IMO the EA wasted everybody’s time by not being “more” upfront.

    On another note, do you guys think that EAs will be able to conduct viewings at the end of the month?

    Asking prices are just a starting point in marketing a property. Low to generate interest, high to give a "discount. The job of the agent is to get the best price. If there is a lot of interest the price may move up. If there is little or no interest the price may drop. What a vendor may take today, may change next week after a round of viewings and offers.
    All any purchaser can do is decide what they think the property is worth and how much they are prepared to pay.
    It is not a supermarket with prices marked on the shelf. Asking the agent for an indication is a distraction. If the owner gets the best possible price and the agent his commission, neither the owner nor the agent care who has wasted time.
    If a house sells and you hadn't offered you maximum, then it is your own fault if you didn't put your best foot forward in time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 infinita


    Hi, a couple of questions here if anyone can help to answer. Thanks!

    I'm a buyer and the sale is about to close soon. The property is in need of renovation before we move in. Does anyone know about the rules/regulations in terms of house renovation under the current lockdown policy? We'll need at least to have floors and wallpaint done but I'm not sure if these are qualified as essential works.

    Also, the property is more than 5km away from where we live now. I'll need to travel there frequently before the renovation is completed. I wonder if gardai would accept this as a valid reason..


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Dave3030


    Asking prices are just a starting point in marketing a property. Low to generate interest, high to give a "discount. The job of the agent is to get the best price. If there is a lot of interest the price may move up. If there is little or no interest the price may drop. What a vendor may take today, may change next week after a round of viewings and offers.
    All any purchaser can do is decide what they think the property is worth and how much they are prepared to pay.
    It is not a supermarket with prices marked on the shelf. Asking the agent for an indication is a distraction. If the owner gets the best possible price and the agent his commission, neither the owner nor the agent care who has wasted time.
    If a house sells and you hadn't offered you maximum, then it is your own fault if you didn't put your best foot forward in time.

    Fair-BUT as someone who has recently sold-if I found out the agent hadnt gone back to all serious bidders then I would be livid.

    I think the OP should have at least got a chance to increase the offer before the sale was agreed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Zenify


    Dave3030 wrote: »
    Fair-BUT as someone who has recently sold-if I found out the agent hadnt gone back to all serious bidders then I would be livid.

    I think the OP should have at least got a chance to increase the offer before the sale was agreed.

    The only explanation in my head is the estate agent sold to a friend. Therefore, they didn't want to increase the bid for their friend and told the seller it was the highest bid. Incompetence could not have caused this, far to simple.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 jor428


    Can anyone advise.
    Is the probate office having delays or is it open and working. We are purchasers waiting on the house we agreed price on and probate was started in September. Nothing contentious afaik so what's the delay. Any info would be great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Dave3030 wrote: »
    Fair-BUT as someone who has recently sold-if I found out the agent hadnt gone back to all serious bidders then I would be livid.

    I think the OP should have at least got a chance to increase the offer before the sale was agreed.
    You won't find out though, not unless a bidder goes out of their way to contact seller. Even then I wouldn't be too bothered about someone who was initially trying to low ball.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    jor428 wrote: »
    Can anyone advise.
    Is the probate office having delays or is it open and working. We are purchasers waiting on the house we agreed price on and probate was started in September. Nothing contentious afaik so what's the delay. Any info would be great.

    A couple of grand higher is absolutely negligible to the estate agent in terms of commission, but why would they waste their time on someone who is trying to get the house on the cheap, when they have someone else who will pay the asking?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Dave3030


    I wouldnt call 4% under a low ball. My reading of it was they were the only person bidding at the time-in which case it would be daft to go straight to the asking price. Also the EA indicated they would entertain offers under asking (i know this is a tactic to get an offer on the table-but still)...

    When the new bidder entered the fray, any good EA would have used this offer to try kick start a bidding war.

    To just go sale agreed without giving them a chance to increase the bid is a poor (or dodgy) EA IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Dave3030 wrote: »
    I wouldnt call 4% under a low ball. My reading of it was they were the only person bidding at the time-in which case it would be daft to go straight to the asking price. Also the EA indicated they would entertain offers under asking (i know this is a tactic to get an offer on the table-but still)...

    When the new bidder entered the fray, any good EA would have used this offer to try kick start a bidding war.

    To just go sale agreed without giving them a chance to increase the bid is a poor (or dodgy) EA IMO.

    Nothing poor or dodgy about it at all, that's the risk you take with low ball tactics and crying foul about it afterwards is just silly.

    How do you know the agent didnt tell vendor about the low offer? The vendor could just as easily have said, no don't bother going back to them having been told about low price and fishing for minimum offer when there's an offer at asking on the table. The vendor may just have wanted a quick sale, got the asking. Nothing suspicious at all.

    Just to add, not sure how you view going in at asking as daft, when not doing it is literally what cost the bidder here the house. Writing this off as dodgy EA tactics is not going to help the OP in the future. It's not likely to be the explanation at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Dave3030


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Nothing poor or dodgy about it at all, that's the risk you take with low ball tactics and crying foul about it afterwards is just silly.

    How do you know the agent didnt tell vendor about the low offer? The vendor could just as easily have said, no don't bother going back to them having been told about low price and fishing for minimum offer when there's an offer at asking on the table. The vendor may just have wanted a quick sale, got the asking. Nothing suspicious at all.

    Just to add, not sure how you view going in at asking as daft, when not doing it is literally what cost the bidder here the house. Writing this off as dodgy EA tactics is not going to help the OP in the future. It's not likely to be the explanation at all.

    Lol-of course we cant be sure what the Vendor was thinking, but your assumption is that the vendor decided that a 30 second phonecall to gauge the interest of the previous high bidder (at 4% under), was not worthy (and actively instructed the EA not to bother).

    Its possible, but very foolish of the vendor IMO. Fair enough the vendor might want a quick sale but its not like the OP said, 'give me 2 weeks to think about it'. I agree that people seen as timewasters will often be ignored. i dont think this is the case here though.

    It seems far more likely to me than the agent was looking to get it off his plate and save himself some hassle-knowing the vendor would take the asking.

    To suggest that it was the OPs fault for not immediately offering up the full whack-this is the poor advice here IMO. and for context i recently purchased for ~9% under asking- so i dont see 4% at all unreasonable.

    Asking prices are not 'Buy it now' prices on Ebay. If you really think that going in immediately at asking is the right move (when there are no other bidders), then any estate agent will love to see you coming.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Dave3030 wrote: »
    Lol-of course we cant be sure what the Vendor was thinking, but your assumption is that the vendor decided that a 30 second phonecall to gauge the interest of the previous high bidder (at 4% under), was not worthy (and actively instructed the EA not to bother).

    Its possible, but very foolish of the vendor IMO. Fair enough the vendor might want a quick sale but its not like the OP said, 'give me 2 weeks to think about it'. I agree that people seen as timewasters will often be ignored. i dont think this is the case here though.

    It seems far more likely to me than the agent was looking to get it off his plate and save himself some hassle-knowing the vendor would take the asking.

    To suggest that it was the OPs fault for not immediately offering up the full whack-this is the poor advice here IMO. and for context i recently purchased for ~9% under asking- so i dont see 4% at all unreasonable.

    Asking prices are not 'Buy it now' prices on Ebay. If you really think that going in immediately at asking is the right move (when there are no other bidders), then any estate agent will love to see you coming.

    It's irrelevant and the OP has no one to blame but themselves, honestly, they could have bid the asking, but didn't and someone else did and they lost out. Framing bidding the asking is poor advice is absolutely ludicrous in the current market, never mind the fact we know what happened when the OP didn't! Honestly, delusional stuff. Presuming your advice to the OP would be to do the exact same thing again?! Seriously, have you been bidding on any properties yourself in the last year? If you have, how many have you successfully purchased or even gone sale agreed on :rolleyes: The OP claimed they were willing to offer the asking, so they obviously believed the property is worth the asking, then they've clearly made a mistake in this case and lost out. A friend of mine who just got their keys was on the exact opposite side of this scenario, someone offered 5k below asking, they offered asking and a couple of hours later they were sale agreed. No back and forth, no bidding war, they got their asking price and that was that.

    The OP can take whatever advice they want, but honestly the last person I'd be listening to is someone claiming something dodgy went on in this case.


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