History videos and photos

brianthebard · 11-09-2009 04:06PM #1

Post your videos and links here and if there are enough responses I will sticky this thread.

MarchDub · 11-09-2009 08:42PM

Some suggestions -

1. The Shadow of Beal na Blath - documentary/some drama on the life and death of Michael Collins. Great interviews by survivors of the period. Love the music.

http://info-wars.org/?p=4697

2. The Treaty. Drama. Quite good. A bit light on the Black and Tan issue.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Treaty-VHS/dp/B00004UEWH/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1252697391&sr=1-2

3. In Search of Ancient Ireland. Documentary. Collaboration of PBS and RTE. Interviews of Irish archeologists and medieval historians. Great visuals of ancient sites.

http://www.amazon.com/Search-Ancient-Ireland-Over/dp/B00078XGRY/ref=pd_sim_b_1

Morlar · 11-09-2009 11:12PM

The béal na mbláth one is very good, well worth checking out.

walrusgumble · 12-09-2009 10:33PM

brilliant idea

are youtube links allowed? there are a couple of documentaries from a certain national station on them, eg frongnoch and the blanket protests

Amtmann · 15-09-2009 01:28PM

This was truly great television. It encapsulated so much of how great the Late Late Show could be under Byrne's stewardship, as a chat show and also as a vehicle for cultural, social and civic debate in Ireland.

I found these clips on Youtube. Forget about the title of the videos and the obvious slant of their original uploader. Just watch.

Part 1

Part 2

I was particularly impressed from 2:35.

Part 3

You could hear a pin drop from 5:05.

brianthebard · 15-09-2009 11:43PM

walrusgumble wrote: »

brilliant idea

are youtube links allowed? there are a couple of documentaries from a certain national station on them, eg frongnoch and the blanket protests

Yes please.

Furet's thread merged with this one. Mod

walrusgumble · 16-09-2009 09:05AM

brianthebard wrote: »

Yes please.

Furet's thread merged with this one. Mod

sound, i know of two crackers. How do you get the link onto this site as seen with the chap who put on the Gerry Adams Late Late link as oppose to typing in the website address?

this one where gay byrne refused to shake his hand?. I distinctively remember usual preview/promo clip aired before the 9'0clock news (first time i released the impact in the north - was only 10ish) I remember it was a clip of gay byrne gagged and tied to a chair in the dark with a spot light over him, and out appeared a beardy man (obviously not the real G.A.) some smart remark was made, then cue the news. Ambush is not an appropriate word for this interview when you consider the great reception Ian Paisley use to get when he came down to RTE studios (his daughter have a show in the late 80's)

It would be excellent if this is kept as a stickie, saves all from endless minutes / hours looking for good history documents etc and a nice little reference pointer, an avenue to learn new things etc

brianthebard · 16-09-2009 12:37PM

Every video on youtube has a code in the url. You copy what comes after v= and post it inside youtube tags. It looks like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egom6-LIxdM

MarchDub · 16-09-2009 02:39PM

walrusgumble wrote: »

this one where gay byrne refused to shake his hand?. I distinctively remember usual preview/promo clip aired before the 9'0clock news (first time i released the impact in the north - was only 10ish) I remember it was a clip of gay byrne gagged and tied to a chair in the dark with a spot light over him, and out appeared a beardy man (obviously not the real G.A.) some smart remark was made, then cue the news. Ambush is not an appropriate word for this interview when you consider the great reception Ian Paisley use to get when he came down to RTE studios (his daughter have a show in the late 80's)

Gay Byrne is/was an idiot interviewer IMO with little knowledge or nuance. He was always a UK wannabe and wanted so much to be the new Eamon Andrews. Those of us old enough to remember recall his slight sojourn in the UK where he failed to catch on, had to return home to Dublin with the spin that he wanted to live in Ireland. His eye however remained on a possible UK billet.

I think that Adams held his own in the face of Byrne's "ambush" as you say and RTE which helped distort the true and appalling history of NI for a whole new generation.

walrusgumble · 16-09-2009 06:10PM

The following

"Frongoch, Ollscoil na Réabhlóide". TG4 Part One
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgG-L8thLvM

"Frongoch, Ollscoil na Réabhlóide". TG4 Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENOd8TOqRig

"Frongoch, Ollscoil na Réabhlóide". TG4 Part Three
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy6WaKYOadc

"Frongoch, Ollscoil na Réadhlóide". TG4 Part Four
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDY9YKauPRQ

Frongoch, Ollscoil na Réadhlóide". TG4 Part Five
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiS7Y4bhmyQ

walrusgumble · 16-09-2009 06:33PM

A Pathé clip of the British Troops handing over a town (Athlone) to the Irish Free State Troops. - Leading Free State was Seán McKeoin (or Mc Eoin?) The Blacksmith of Ballinalee. The castle itself will be 800 years old next year. The smart asses might be witty enough to note that there might be little difference with Athlone in 1921 and now.:D. Appartantly, the Free Staters did not actually have a flag pole when raising the tricolour, a bit embarrashing. i think they had to get a brush stick. something mad like that

http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiy-9VA42Dw

Surely there are some more news reels / footage out there of british leaving eg Spike Islands etc

walrusgumble · 16-09-2009 06:52PM

An interesting British Documentary entiled "The Irish Freedom Fighters". Its about 30-35 years old. The stars of the documentary are the people themselves you fought during 1916, Tan War & Civil War. We get to see them in the flesh. Tom Barry, David Neligan, Joe Sweeney and many more. There are some genuine moving moments (bearing in mind many of that generation who took part, were not always keen on talking about that time.)

Part 1
ttp://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gJYJCtfBJg

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYV7bzKwePM

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm6t7A4Rnbk

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFb9HugKJXE

Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9irRZ0cgSs

walrusgumble · 16-09-2009 07:31PM

Soundbites from the past

Churchill declaring German's unconditional surrender
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-KAkm3PnV8

Churchill's "We Shall fight them in the beaches..."
http://www.youtube.com/[youyube]MkTw3_PmKtc[/youtube]

De Valera's response to Churchill's VE Speech
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isNOQ3zQ2F0

De Valera Defending Irish Policy of Neutrality
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dasU9U7i3JQ

Apparently, according to people like Diarmuid Ferriter, both of these men got on great after WWII. wonder did Churchill do a bit of work for winnie the poo?

An Irish Documentary about Dev and Churchill
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0vK1ZiG3l0

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T54TaUbjUk

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Simye9lp8EI

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJfWSSnNM8

Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuSS_HqYGBE

Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBAO7-3thQ

MarchDub · 18-09-2009 05:51PM

http://www.casttv.com/video/z86oyf/the-funeral-of-the-batchelors-walk-massacre-victims-video

This is film footage of the funeral of the victims of the Bachelor's Walk killing of civilians by British Army 26th July 1914.

walrusgumble · 19-09-2009 12:44PM

jesus tg4 really do make an effort

here is a documentary of one of ireland's finest soliders: Ernie O'Malley

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3KYhEpyaIY

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTT40NWGiSQ

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfmHD-73pHo

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAb4r2bduXQ

Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrRpVIeibLw

Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8xPowuYl_w

walrusgumble · 19-09-2009 04:36PM

a documentary that may or may not raise a few eyebrows. a documentary set for bbc 2. de valera "ireland's hated hero". the usual heads contribute

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei8W0LVCuk0

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjrqIsKHMqw

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvb8HwX85xg

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0CYJDlzYuU

Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAcwyv8QFU

Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwUT9scjGl4

Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPF6JiJ85Y

http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHX9iLOjJ3E

Golly didn't RTÉ People have very Graaa-nd accents then

walrusgumble · 19-09-2009 04:56PM

many will remember this RTÉ documentary about 1916 and General Maxwell "The man who lost Ireland". The significance of this documentary, or the significance RTÉ made about this project was that it talks about the court martials in detail eg - William Wylie's account that The Countess pleaded for mercy on the basis that she is a woman

By the way, is this the same Willliam Wylie who became an Irish Judge??? or related to a William Wylie (well renowned lawyer in the area of land/property law?) if so, how did the country not turn against him when emotions & attitudes change?

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqVbVRkfh2w

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPOawBOYdr4

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5IbcSN0ajA

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3VnZ1QZUZA

Part 5 - cut to the point - the countess' account
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1lhPOoc5Ik

Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpi8TSQSwbY

brianthebard · 20-09-2009 11:17PM

Yes walrus I think it is the same man. I think there's probably a class explanation for why the country didn't turn against him, he would have been quite protected or insulated by other upper/middle class types and allowed to prosper in a way that others in different professions would not. btw I'm not a fan of Markievicz but I think his account of her breakdown in court goes against everything she said and did throughout her life. I'm fairly sure he was a well known misogynist though so that would have been as good a reason as any to lie.

walrusgumble · 18-10-2009 01:17PM

a couple of old clips from the Big Fella himself. Shame we will never get to hear his voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0wEaATmtcA

Rebelheart · 18-10-2009 02:09PM

Waterford County Museum's website seems to be head and shoulders above any other county museum. It is very well worth having a look at.

In particular, I love this clip from 11 November 1920 of two local IRA men forced to hold the Union Jack and march through Waterford by the Auxies after they had torn it down. It was done as a propaganda exercise by the British for showing in British cinemas during the war. Watch at the back of the Auxies there is a tall Black and Tan walking behind them with a pistol in his hand and a big smile:

http://www.waterfordcountymuseum.org/exhibit/web/Display/article/118/

You have to click 'download the video footage".

I'm sure you'll find much more on that site.

Rebelheart · 18-10-2009 02:15PM

How do you embed a video into a thread?

brianthebard · 18-10-2009 02:38PM

copy everything after v= in the youtube url then put it between

McArmalite · 18-10-2009 02:55PM

Rebelheart wrote: »

Waterford County Museum's website seems to be head and shoulders above any other county museum. It is very well worth having a look at.

In particular, I love this clip from 11 November 1920 of two local IRA men forced to hold the Union Jack and march through Waterford by the Auxies after they had torn it down. It was done as a propaganda exercise by the British for showing in British cinemas during the war. Watch at the back of the Auxies there is a tall Black and Tan walking behind them with a pistol in his hand and a big smile:

http://www.waterfordcountymuseum.org/exhibit/web/Display/article/118/

You have to click 'download the video footage".

I'm sure you'll find much more on that site.

Very good Rebelheart. I remember reading how in Leitrim when a train driver refused to transport the Tans citing the Irish rail unions rules forbidding him to do so, the brits beat him up, stripped him naked and tied him to the front of the train in an act of humiliation and forced another driver at gunpoint to drive the train. The following day the officer commanding was shot dead on his way from church in revenge for it.

walrusgumble · 25-10-2009 10:09PM

The following is a film about Ann Devlin, done in 1984

Part 1
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpsJAnPUi0s

Part 2
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAW2WBnEUB0

Part 3
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEkox_DQ7QM

Part 4
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61XlBYQwH18

Part 5
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juZ6NXNhf6Q

Part 6
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6EUPgqyxs

Part 7
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bZjwY725FM

Part 8
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGxiEJQWoDA

Part 9
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XDyg2hjSJE

Part 10
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW0vN55H1RI

Part 11
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyHk7OkxP_c

Part 12
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEBU8ZIs2_o

walrusgumble · 25-10-2009 11:19PM

lowing is a clip of the irish army in the congo. as many will be aware, the congo was ireland's first mission as a member of the un peacekeeping. the irish army went through some severe conditions and political hostility (not to mention intitially being badly equiped) anyone who has/had a family member or knew someone in the army will know that the irish army is one of great pride and excellent distinction when serving in the un

as the congo was ireland's first port of call , i feel it merits to be here

www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0JaquxhgnQ

walrusgumble · 25-10-2009 11:49PM

the forgotten ten

this is a documentary abut kevin barry and 9 other men who where executed during the war of independence and buried in mountjoy. as many will remember, their bodies were only removed from the jail 5 years ago.

this documentary looks at the hardship their families had to endure in order to get their bodies out of the jail. clearly, as sign of the times and shifting attitudes towards 1916-1922 in light of the government's preoccupation with the peace process.

members of the 6th btn 4th western brigade (athlone barracks) got the honour of acting as pallbearers from their original plot to the cars (other brigades were involved of course) i knew some of the lads. very proud day for them. i also remember the f*ckers in the Indo who had the gall to write sheer lies. (it was round this time i woke up to the notion of revisionists - i was only in my early teens then)

Part 1
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRqggADe1Q

Part 2
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rvh7DbjsVU

Part 3
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X7F7M986U4

Part 4
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4BdRKaPbxY

Part 5
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1D8k_C9m-4

Part 6
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJCTLnuC640

Part 7
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWbFyuV7j9c

Part 8
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmWP_iFcrUU

walrusgumble · 26-10-2009 12:58AM

clip from british pathe of roger casement's home coming
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYexm368VPs

british pathe for nelson's pillar (i doubt it had the dubliners singing along, but there you go:D)
www.youtube.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DcQe5z1cjs

the next clip is in relation to jeremiah o'donovan rossa. one of the signifcance of this was Padraig Pearse's first public outing (all in military uniform, which would have got the castle tongues waging.It was here that Pearse told the mourners that "ireland unfree shall never be at peace" (the music i think is from the chieftains)
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOw-LtdlsvI

here is a clip from thomas ashe's funeral. as many will be aware, collins gave the grave side speech. it is said, collins ripped up his speech after the guns were fired, and simply said that the noise from the guns was all that needed to be said....... . again, the people defied the castle by coming out in army uniform
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrLd5E1f1Fc

british pathe clip in relation to terance sweeney (ignore the music). i understand sweeney wrote a book about freedom or was it maccurtain who wrote it? anyone know?
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn0VAdLEVwA

clips of thomas maccurtain's funeral
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkj8klmymis

funeral of cathal brugha
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bi2a0St-go

shame the archives seem more concerned with funerals as oppose to clips of the men alive. then again, there was a war. they were on the run and hardly had time or safety to prance around to photo opportunities.

walrusgumble · 26-10-2009 01:17AM

this one is for the ladies, the wimen;) ah no seriously thou, honest to god. we seem to have completely forgotten one section of teh country when it comes to writting history. whether the subject/period of history is not agreeable to some, there is no doubt that women sacrificed just as much as the men. as many will know during the treaty debate markiveic, clarke, sweeney & cuman na mban, the women were extremely oppose to the treaty.as you also know, it was not just the men during any period of irish history who went on hunger strikes. as seen below, armagh prison is a case in point. Tim Pat Coogan describes in his work on the IRA the extrermely horrific and severe conditons he found when meeting some strikers in Armagh like mairead farrell (not we men don't have to worry about a certain time of the month)

this is Irish Women: political prisoners (about the north)
part 1
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjiLP9yTFk4

part 2
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88W6hPom1c

Part 3
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuT4AWgmNB0

Part 4
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV4aFgGGNPQ

Part 5
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmZE0DM14oU

Part 6
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISKb4e0gd0k

This is women in the civil war. considering how parnell had difficulty with his sister's branch of the land league and how cumann na mban were hostile to the treaty, it's no wonder De Valera took such a hostile attitude towards women with the Constitution. Maiden homely women my ar*e, a clear indication of telling women, particularily strong minded women, where their place was.
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvjdBKvLl1k

women of 1916
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiZJ2C8EwSA

Maud Gonne
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmn7cNrWiMM

Irish women in the Labour Movement
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9qI34r3Nqk

walrusgumble · 26-10-2009 01:54AM

Irish Americans - The Jubilee Plot - Fenians in America - Assisination attempt of the monarchy and attempt to sabotage Parnell

Part 1
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc7ydz3qAUU

PArt 2
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu68gIHLKKs

Part 3
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i87cwh5rLVs

Part 4
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLNvzgUCRY

Part 5
www.youtube.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1boU1D3Dm_E

walrusgumble · 26-10-2009 12:49PM

this is an Irish - Englsih language documentary made by RTÉ(2000) about the Kilmichael Ambush.One significant part of this documentary is the asertions made by Canadian Historian Peter Harte that amongst other things, the Auxies were robbed and hatched to death and we killed after surrender. Mr Harte raises issue over alledge inconsistencies with various reports made by Tom BArry. You decide

Part 1
www.youtube.com