Frongoch internment camp.

Wexford Wanderer · 27-11-2012 10:52pm

Robus wrote: »

HI WW, here is a few options , regards Robus
Here are all the J and James Quinn options

[*]Quinn James Ferns/Clonee/Camolin, : Frongoch Roll Book
[*]Quinn James of Camolin Park, Wexford was transferred from Richmond Barracks, Dublin to Wandsworth Detention Barracks on 9th May 1916.

[*]Doyle A. (jun) of Shannon Hill, Enniscorthy was transferred from Richmond Barracks, Dublin to Stafford Detention Barracks on 9th May 1916
[*]Doyle Andy Enniscorthy, : Frongoch Roll Book
[*]Doyle Andy Jnr. Enniscorthy, : Frongoch Roll Book

[*]Doyle A. of Shannon Hill, Enniscorthy was transferred from Richmond Barracks, Dublin to Stafford Detention Barracks on 9th May 1916
[*]Doyle A. (jun) of Shannon Hill, Enniscorthy was transferred from Richmond Barracks, Dublin to Stafford Detention Barracks on 9th May 1916

[*]Doyle Michael of Shannon Hill, Enniscorthy:Occupation Labourer, was transferred from Richmond Detention Barracks on 19th May 1916 to Lewes Detention Barracks

These look like good possibilities. My great-grandfather was Michael Doyle so I wonder about that entry, but he was probably too old to be involved at that point. Lots of Doyles in Wexford!

Thanks very much for your help Robus. And I'll send for the Frongoch book through inter-library loan as I would like to read it.

sbuch · 02-12-2012 6:55pm

Hi Robus
Just came across these boards while doing some digging for my family tree. Was wondering if you have any information about John Dutton Cooper. I've been told that he took part in the Rising and was imprisoned. He lived in Dublin.
Thanks for any info.

Robus · 03-12-2012 10:06pm

Hi

Cooper John of 43 Lanark Street was received at Wakefield Detention Barracks on 6th May 1916 from Kilmainham
Cooper John (ICA) 33 Lennox Street, : Frongoch Roll Book

Could that be him, (try a 1911 census to help confirm)

Robus

sbuch · 04-12-2012 1:10am

Thanks for the info. What does (ICA) stand for?

From his baptism record he lived on 82 Lower Camden St in 1870, in 1901 he was at 20 Long Lane, in 1911 he is at 13 Aldborough Parade so it seems like he moved around a lot.
Are these 2 different Johns or would it be 2 different internments? I am afraid I don't know much about the history yet.

Robus · 05-12-2012 7:49pm

ICA is “Irish Citizen Army” .
I would guess they are the same John and the address was spelt wrong on the first one.

sbuch · 05-12-2012 10:37pm

Thanks very much.

johnny_doyle · 06-12-2012 8:23pm

in the Nominal Roll of the Irish Citizen Army there is an entry for John Cooper, 30 Lennox St, member of the South Circular Road section. Army number 31. There's no indication of where he fought and there's a note in the copy I have saying [crossed out].

South Circular Road Section (No 3 section) is listed as having 14 members and commanded by James Kelly of 4 Clanbrassil St Upper. Kelly and others of the section are listed as having fought at St Stephen's Green/College of Surgeons.

briergirl · 12-12-2012 8:36pm

My great grandfather was Michael O Mahoney who was from Cork ( Bantry I think) and he was imprisoned at Frongoch along with his brother name unknown. His brother was executed in Frongoch. Can you give me any information????

Robus · 13-12-2012 7:04pm

briergirl wrote: »

My great grandfather was Michael O Mahoney who was from Cork ( Bantry I think) and he was imprisoned at Frongoch along with his brother name unknown. His brother was executed in Frongoch. Can you give me any information????

Sorry I had no luck.
Can you tell us more about the Frongoch executation?

johnny_doyle · 13-12-2012 11:03pm

I've not come across mention of an execution at Frongoch.

A number of German Prisoners of War died at Frongoch before and after the Irish and all have death certs. There is no death cert for an O'Mahoney in North Wales in 1916.

The Rebellion Handbook has a C O'Mahony from Ahiohill, Enniskeen, Co Cork as sent to Wakefield 2nd June 1916. There is a John O'Mahoney from Dublin listed in this batch.

lolli · 16-12-2012 3:24am

Robus wrote: »

All Camolin
Brennan Mathew of Camolin, Co Wexford was transferred from Richmond Barracks, Dublin to Wandsworth Detention Barracks on 9th May 1916.

Wow this is amazing

Mathew Brennan is my great grandfather. I remember my grandad telling me about him being arrested in a turnip field. He married a Quinn from the Ferns area.

briergirl · 17-12-2012 12:35pm

I have chased up with my great aunt and I was wrong about the Frongoch execution . The brother was executed in Cork Jail we think his name was Jack (O) Mahoney. My great grandad Michael Mahoney or O'Mahoney was interred at Frongoch. My grandmother had a photo of him there which was then lost. We think Michael was born approx 1884 and his family owned a large house on the rd into Bantry. He was involved in a court case with a british army officer regarding defamation. Any info would be gratefully received

johnny_doyle · 17-12-2012 5:25pm

a Partick Mahoney was executed by firing squad in Cork, Feb 1921.

briergirl · 17-12-2012 11:24pm

johnny_doyle wrote: »

a Partick Mahoney was executed by firing squad in Cork, Feb 1921.

Thanks so much!!!!! I'm a bit baffled about my great grandfather Michael. My grandmother always spoke if him being in Frongoch!!! Thanks again for looking

Robus · 29-12-2012 2:35pm

johnny_doyle wrote: »

a Partick Mahoney was executed by firing squad in Cork, Feb 1921.

Johnny, may i ask the source reference for this please.

johnny_doyle · 30-12-2012 12:08am

Robus wrote: »

Johnny, may i ask the source reference for this please.

I got his name from the list of those who suffered capital punishment :

http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/ireland.html

Listed as O'Mahoney on other lists re the Dripsey ambush

http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/html/getPDF.php?memorialID=512

http://irishvolunteers.org/2011/03/ira-cork-1-brigade-dripsey/

Robus · 03-01-2013 5:36pm

johnny_doyle wrote: »

I got his name from the list of those who suffered capital punishment :

http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/ireland.html

Thanks Johnny, that capital punishment list is new to me and brilliant, I will add it to my index referencing, Robus

Terry Hanlon · 09-01-2013 11:54pm

mirror mirror wrote: »

Robus wrote: »

Yes I have the full
The National Museums' "Roll of Honour",

Arrests ,transfers, detention and release lists from Irish & English Prisons.

Frongoch Camp in North Wales "Roll Call"

the "Statements to the Bureau of Military History"

The Catholic Bulletin 1916 - 1919 "Easter Week" articles on the killed in Action

Court Martial results for May 1916

Internment of Bodies in the Dublin Cemeteries

all in one database
Hi Robus,are there any Doyles from kilkenny mentioned on thos

Terry Hanlon · 10-01-2013 12:01am

Terry Hanlon wrote: »

Browsing, I see you may be able to Check if there is a Michael Sweeney, Irirs Volunteer during 1916 Rebellion in Dublin, a young boy who we are led to believe was sent to FRONGOCH. Returned to Dublin later and was killed aged 19/20. Can you help?

Regards Terry Hanlon

johnny_doyle · 10-01-2013 12:21am

Michael Sweeney from Harold's Cross?

Robus · 10-01-2013 12:52am

Sweeney Michael South Dublin Union Garrison , National Museum Roll Of Honour
Sweeney Ml. of Harold's Cross was released between 13th May and the 22nd May 1916.
Sweeney Michael Roll of Honour of Fourth Battalion Dublin Brigade

Terry Hanlon · 10-01-2013 12:36pm

Hi There, Yes Michael Sweeney From Harolds Cross Dublin was a Uncle of a friend of mine

Terry Hanlon · 10-01-2013 12:40pm

Yes Michael Sweeney from Harolds Cross Dublin

johnny_doyle · 10-01-2013 2:02pm

Michael Sweeney was my uncle's uncle.

http://johnny-doyle.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/irish-volunteers-sweeney.html?m=1

Terry Hanlon · 10-01-2013 5:48pm

Robus wrote: »

Sweeney Michael South Dublin Union Garrison , National Museum Roll Of Honour
Sweeney Ml. of Harold's Cross was released between 13th May and the 22nd May 1916.
Sweeney Michael Roll of Honour of Fourth Battalion Dublin Brigade

Thank you for the info, we wondered if he spent time at frongoch

rgds terry hanlon

johnny_doyle · 10-01-2013 6:34pm

news item re the death of Michael Sweeney

Mickey Sweeney's name can just be made out in the bottom right of this ASU Certificate for Jum Harpur

http://www.peteconnolly.co.uk/blog/wordpress/2009/11/26/jim-harpurs-active-service-unit-certificate/comment-page-1/

Fieldsman · 11-01-2013 4:23pm

Many years ago while travelling in Wales I saw a signpost for Frongoch and immediately remembered it as my late father often mentioned it when I was very young as he had been there.
I stopped and went down to the spot where I found nothing but a small shop in which the owner said this was a prison camp once a upon a time allright.
Sometime later I picked up a book called 'Frongoch' and I'm sure its in the house still.Robus I live in the west of Ireland and I'd be greatful if you or any one else would know of any website where I could check out names etc.

johnny_doyle · 11-01-2013 8:30pm

went to Frongoch last year as part of a trip organised by the 1916-21 Club.

There isn't a lot to see now but the locals are very interested in the subject and happy to talk about what they know. 2 authors about Frongoch were on hand - Lyn Ebenezer and Sean O'Mahoney - and a number of the 16 Lives books were donated to the school. A couple of young Welsh primary school kids were wearing Michael Collins badges and were very knowledgeable about who he was which was good to see.

Robus · 14-01-2013 10:05pm

Terry Hanlon wrote: »

Thank you for the info, we wondered if he spent time at frongoch

rgds terry hanlon

Sweeny: Michael: of 5 Harold's Cross was received at Wakefield Detention Barracks on 6th May 1916 from Kilmainham

Found one more spelt "wrong"

Terry Hanlon · 14-01-2013 10:19pm

Hi Robus,

Thanks a lot for that info, its all coming together bit by bit'

Rgds Terry Hanlon

richban · 21-01-2013 2:31pm

HI Robus - do you have any frongoch record of a Patrick Bannon from Co. Westmeath or Longford? thanks very much

Robus · 21-01-2013 6:57pm

richban wrote: »

HI Robus - do you have any frongoch record of a Patrick Bannon from Co. Westmeath or Longford? thanks very much

Sorry No

Bannon Christopher Roll of Honour of Fourth Battalion Dublin Bridge
Bannon John (ICA) Fole Street, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O'Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Bannon Thomas (CO904/193/4) Boyd-Barrett Dr. J H P (CO904/193/5) Dublin Castle Special Branch Files
Bannon Thos of Dublin was released on the 12th May 1916 following a full military investigation.

richban · 22-01-2013 11:24am

Robus - thanks very much for this

johnny_doyle · 25-01-2013 8:01am

Robus,

do you have anything on either of these men :

T (Thomas?) Parker, 12 Holles Row, Dublin

Miley Wilde, Enniscorthy

Johnny

Robus · 25-01-2013 5:40pm

johnny_doyle wrote: »

Robus,

do you have anything on either of these men :

T (Thomas?) Parker, 12 Holles Row, Dublin

Miley Wilde, Enniscorthy

Johnny

Hi Johnny, here is what i had for thoes names surnames

Wilde

See Army & RIC Crown Death's in Who's Who on 21/11/20

Parker
Bernard
Magazine Fort Garrison , See the "Roll of Honour" at the National Museum

Parker
Ellen (née O'Flanagan)
Four Courts Garrison , See the "Roll of Honour" at the National Museum

Parker
George
of 10 Rutland Square was received at Wakefield Detention Barracks on 6th May 1916 from Kilmainham

Parker
George
of Dublin was released on the 12th May 1916 following a full military investigation.

Parker
Joseph
Roll of Honour of Fourth Battalion Dublin Bridge

Parker
L/Cpl
See Army & RIC Crown Death's in Who's Who on 01/07/20

Parker
Lt
See Army & RIC Crown Death's in Who's Who on 28/10/20

Parker
T.
of 12 Hollaf Row, Dublin (Pte 2nd Leinster Regiment) was transferred from Richmond Barracks, Dublin to Stafford Detention Barracks on 9th May 1916

Parker
Thos
was detained at Richmond Barracks, Dublin on 20th May 1916

With a typo in my list

johnny_doyle · 25-01-2013 7:46pm

it's the T Parker 2nd Leinsters that I'm interested in. I saw him in the 1916 Rebellion Handbook and think that Hollaf Row is Holles Row. There's a Parker family there in the 1911 census. Can't find a BA service record or anything for him and interested to see if there was anything in any of the resources you have.

Miley Wilde is supposed to be a BA soldier who joined with the Volunteers in Enniscorthy but so far drawing a blank on him too.

Interesting to see the G Parker from 10 Rutland Square (Fowler Hall) in the list. A very Unionist address ie Orange Order and base for the Loyal Dublin Volunteers (a UVF spin off). An arms cache was found there in the 1930's from pre-1916. My Gt Gt Grandmother gave it as her address on her marriage record (ironically her surname was Carson).

gipsybabe · 09-04-2013 12:49pm

Hello Robus,
Could you check for my grand father - Michael Carolan or Michael O' Carolan. Ardoyne resident and then Dublin. He was in Frongoch and also escaped from Mountjoy. He was a Director of Intelligence of the IRA under Michael Collins.
Thank you so much

Robus · 09-04-2013 5:05pm

gipsybabe wrote: »

Hello Robus,
Could you check for my grand father - Michael Carolan or Michael O' Carolan. Ardoyne resident and then Dublin. He was in Frongoch and also escaped from Mountjoy. He was a Director of Intelligence of the IRA under Michael Collins.
Thank you so much

Carolan M. of 80 Chief Street, Belfast was transferred from Richmond Barracks, Dublin to Stafford Detention Barracks on 9th May 1916
Carolan Michael Was entered on the National Army Census of 12th November 2012 in Portobello Barracks, Rathmines (Dublin) Aged 23
Carolan Mick 80 Chief Street, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"

gipsybabe · 09-04-2013 5:07pm

Thank you Robus

Glenanail · 27-04-2013 5:36pm

Hello Robus,

I wonder if you could help me with any information you may have about my grandfather William Mulryan, of Kiltulla (also called Kiltullagh) near Oranmore, Galway.

I have a record of him being transferred to Stafford Detention Barracks (Stafford Goal) on the 13th of May 1916. He was taken from Richmond Barracks on the 12th.

I also have another couple of references;-

William Mulryan was a medal winner at Weight Throwing and Hurling. He
gave a Hurling medal to Michael Giles when Michael emigrated to the
USA. (Apparently he played for Castlegar about 1910.)

William was mentioned by Irish Patriot, Mr. Frank Hardiman, in a
statement written just before he died at age 77. He stated that
William Mulryan was a prisoner (with Michael Collins) in the 3rd Hut,
North Camp, of Frongoch Internment Camp, Wales in 1917. Referring to
Seán Hale**, Hardiman said, "...the late Wm Mulryan of Kiltulla,
Oranmore, another powerful man, with Michael Collins, tried their
skill with him in weight-throwing... What a pity those young Irishmen
should meet with such early and tragic ends." (Family sources suggest that William eventually died "due to injuries he sustained by being dragged along, tied to a truck by Black & Tans" although I cannot verify that).

I have not been able to find any other reference to him being in Frongoch or when he returned home, I would be very grateful if you could help in any way.

Robus · 28-04-2013 6:29pm

The following may help broden your research

Connolly John Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Connolly John of Kiltulla, Oranmore was transferred from Dublin to Barlinnie Detention Barracks, Glasgow on 19th May 1916
Doyle Peter of Kiltulla, Athenry :Occupation Farmer, was transferred from Richmond Barracks, Dublin to Woking Detention Barracks on 19th May 1916
Doyle Thomas Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Doyle Thomas of Kiltulla, Athenry was transferred from Dublin to Perth Detention Barracks on 19th May 1916
Forde Patrick Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Forde Patrick of Kiltulla, Athenry was transferred from Dublin to Perth Detention Barracks on 19th May 1916
Gilligan John Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Gillighan Patrick of Kiltulla, Athenry was transferred from Dublin to Perth Detention Barracks on 19th May 1916
Halloran Denis Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Kelly James of Kiltulla, Athenry was transferred from Dublin to Barlinnie Detention Barracks, Glasgow on 19th May 1916
Kelly Michael Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Kelly Michael of Kiltulla Post Office, Athenry was transferred from Dublin to Perth Detention Barracks on 19th May 1916
King John Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
King John J of Kiltullagh, Oranmore, Galway :Occupation Farmer, was removed on 12th May 1916 from Richmond Barracks, Dublin and lodged in Stafford Detention Barracks on 13th May 1916
King Patrick Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
King Patrick Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
King Peter of Kiltullagh, Oranmore, Galway :Occupation Farmer, was removed on 12th May 1916 from Richmond Barracks, Dublin and lodged in Stafford Detention Barracks on 13th May 1916
Mahon Patrick Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Mannion Michael Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Mullins Thomas of Kiltulla, Athenry was transferred from Dublin to Perth Detention Barracks on 19th May 1916
Mulryan Bart Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Mulryan John Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Mulryan William Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Mulryan William Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Mulryan Wm of Kiltullagh, Oranmore, Galway :Occupation Farmer, was removed on 12th May 1916 from Richmond Barracks, Dublin and lodged in Stafford Detention Barracks on 13th May 1916
Wall John Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Walsh Michael Kiltulla, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"

Glenanail · 30-04-2013 9:48pm

Robus,

Thank you very much for your help. I'm trying to get hold of Sean O Mahony's book.

I have an aerial photo of Kiltulla with many of the names you mention tagged to the houses - it will be interesting trying to match the names to the village.

You have given me a lot to work with.

Thanks again.

Blue850 · 02-05-2013 9:23pm

enfield wrote: »

Irish at Frongoch.
Immediately prior to that date over 200 men refused to answer their names or numbers, as they knew that in the case of Michael Murphy, wanted as an absentee under the Military Service Act, a wrong man was taken and M. Murphy was still in the camp.

I received some information yesterday that the "wrong man" was my grandfather

Peter Barrett, prisoner number 716, was housed in Number 6 Hut in Frongoch's North Camp. He is mentioned several times in W.J. Brennan Whitmore's book "With the Irish in Frongoch" published in Dublin December 1917, in connection with a British attempt to conscript one of the interned Volunteers into the British Army.

The British authorities in Frongoch knew the man they wanted, a Michael Murphy, was in the camp, but did not know which one he was. The Irish internees all refused to answer their names at roll call. The British tried every ruse they could think of, but the Irish refused to cooperate. This is the way W.J. Brennan Whitmore tells the story: "At last, driven to desperation, Sergeant Philips went over and laid his hand on a prisoner's shoulder. 'You are Michael Murphy, the man we want." said Philips. 'I am not the man you want." replied the prisoner, moving out of the ranks. Philips maintained that he was, so he was placed in cells. Now the man whom Philips had picked out as Michael Murphy, of London, was in reality a Galway youth named Barrett. Had Philips been endeavouring to pick out a man to suit our purpose he could not have succeeded better. Barrett was quite a different man altogether from Murphy so far as physical makeup was concerned; and besides which, he was full of determination and grit.

"That evening word went speeding to Mr. Gavan Duffy informing him of the whole proceeding, and instructing him to appear on behalf of Barrett. When Barrett was removed from the rest and placed in cells, the remaining 200 prisoners were informed they would be kept in the South Camp and deprived of all privileges 'until such time as they learned sense and answered their names and numbers.'"

"...Meanwhile, Barrett had been removed to London for Trial, and Mr. Gavan Duffy had been directed to defend him. Barrett had been kept in the guard room for nearly a week, but after he had stated to Philips, on the occasion on which he was picked out, 'I am not the man you want," he refused to speak to anyone only to Commandant Staines; and, of course, Staines was not likely to report what took place between them; so in the end they were forced to send him on to London for trial as an absentee under the Military Service Act! A man who had never been out of Galway in his life until his arrest! In London, of course, it was definitely established that he was not Michael Murphy of that city at all, but a totally different and quite innocent man. Moreover, as he had not represented himself in any way as being Michael Murphy, but on the contrary, had stated that he was not such a person, there was nothing for it but to send him back to the Camp."

From that time on, the British authorities could not identify any Irish prisoner unless that prisoner admitted his identity. There were no more attempts to conscript, or try for evading conscription, any of the internees in Frongoch.

Robus · 02-05-2013 9:41pm

Blue850 wrote: »

I received some information yesterday that the "wrong man" was my grandfather, Peter Barrett, prisoner number 716, was housed in Number 6 Hut in Frongoch's North Camp..

Perhaps some relations were with him..

Barrett Michael Craughwell and District, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Barrett Patrick Craughwell and District, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Barrett Peter Craughwell and District, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"

Blue850 · 02-05-2013 9:52pm

Robus wrote: »

Perhaps some relations were with him..

Barrett Michael Craughwell and District, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Barrett Patrick Craughwell and District, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"
Barrett Peter Craughwell and District, : Frongoch Roll Call, Sean O Mahony's book "Frongoch: University of Revolution"

Yes, 3 brothers, not the first time they were arrested together.

As part of a general British crack-down on Irish Nationalist agitation and activities, the Volunteers included, the young, 20 year old Peter was arrested and imprisoned. On Christmas Eve 1914, the Barrett house in Scalp was surrounded by British forces and Peter and his brothers Patrick (age 19) and Michael (age 17) were taken into custody and sent to Mountjoy Prison in Dublin. Because of the crack-down and the consequent large numbers of Volunteers and others in custody, the Irish prisons were full, and many were transferred to English prisons, Peter Barrett among them. It is said that he was imprisoned in Wormwood Scrubs prison in London.

Peter and several other Irish prisoners escaped from Wormwood Scrubs prison in 1915. They spent several months carefully scraping brick and cement from the inside of the chimney in their cell, until they had widened it enough for them to climb up and out of it. While they were widening the chimney, they carried the scrapings out of the cell in their pockets and carefully dumped them on the ground during their exercise periods in the yard. After several months work on the chimney, they escaped, found shelter in the home of an Irish woman married to an English man, and were later recaptured and returned to prison. Later in 1915, Peter was released and returned to Craughwell

mags04 · 10-05-2013 11:55pm

Would you have any info about a Hugh Gribben in Frognoch. He was on Argenta prison ship and in book about this it is said he was in Frognoch. He was my grandfather. Thanks

Robus · 11-05-2013 12:43pm

mags04 wrote: »

Would you have any info about a Hugh Gribben in Frognoch. He was on Argenta prison ship and in book about this it is said he was in Frognoch. He was my grandfather. Thanks

You are in luck if this is him.

Gribben Hugh Comdt a Commandant IRA, Down, 1921 ,made a "Witness Statement" number 640 to The "Bureau of Military History"

http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0640.pdf#page=1

mags04 · 11-05-2013 7:10pm

Hi Robus. Thanks for all the info but unfortunately I don't believe this Hugh Gribben is my grandfather. He was born in Co Down but in a village called Rostrevor. He was born on 22/23 Oct 1900. He was definitely on the Argenta prison ship and in other prisons, probably in N Ireland. If you can find any info about him or direct me to any web sites or books I would appreciate it. Thanks Mags04

topbananna123 · 20-09-2013 9:19pm

Hi Robus

Have very much enjoyed reading the information you have posted, thank you.

I was always told that my grandfather served with Develera at Bolands mill but have so far being unable to find any information or listings to back this up. However my family is in posession of a comrac medal awarded to him in the 50's or 60's but this may have been for service during the civil war. Would you have any listings for him? His name was Henry (or Harry) Synnott and he was from Painestown Co Meath.

Would you also have any information on a person initialed T.O.B who may have been an intern at Frongoch camp in 1916

Many thanks

TB

Santa Cruz · 21-09-2013 9:42am

Just a "well done" to all the posters here. Very interesting stuff. Have got stuck into the witness statements from the Military Bureau lately. They give a great insight in to the everyday events of the 1913 to 1921 events. I have learned a lot of the activities of grandfather and granduncle as well as incidents in my own locality

Frongoch internment camp.

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