Bigger women - secretly liked

Alecto · 13-12-2019 6:50pm #1

I'd really like if this could not turn into a fatty bashing thread but I won't hold my breath. So I'm a size 16-18 myself and while I'd definitely like to be toned and less wobbly, I'm not too bothered about my actual size, though my self esteem tends to fluctuate. I actually prefer bigger women myself. I used to be on this feeder website and I was really surprised how many men loved chubby and bigger women. So my question is, do you think it's not as rare as we're led to believe and that some men secretly like bigger women but it's not acceptable in society to say so?

13-12-2019 6:52pm

Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

JeffKenna · 13-12-2019 6:53pm

Every holes a goal.

Car99 · 13-12-2019 6:55pm

No acceptable to say so ? I never knew it was unacceptable for someone to say they liked curvy women.

Leg End Reject · 13-12-2019 6:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

A US size 16, that's a 12 here. She was very slender before she died.

13-12-2019 6:59pm

Leg End Reject wrote: »

A US size 16, that's a 12 here. She was very slender before she died.

I think ours are bigger not smaller eg 10 us is 12 uk

Fairly sure she wasn't size 16 either way tho

corner of hells · 13-12-2019 7:00pm

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Dial Hard · 13-12-2019 7:00pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

Nope. Completely apocryphal.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/marilyn-monroe-was-not-even-close-to-a-size-12-16/

Alecto · 13-12-2019 7:02pm

Yeah I think that was a myth about Marilyn Monroe. Maybe sizing has changed since but she was definitely not a size 16 as it measures now. Though that varies from shop to shop.

I guess maybe it's more along the lines of making jokes about taking the fat one home from the nightclub but not wanting anyone to know kind of thing. That sort of "shame".

Leg End Reject · 13-12-2019 7:07pm

bluewolf wrote: »

I think ours are bigger not smaller eg 10 us is 12 uk

Fairly sure she wasn't size 16 either way tho

You're right, I'm not fully functioning today.

Day Lewin · 13-12-2019 7:08pm

The softer the cushion, the better the pushin' :-)

Don Joe · 13-12-2019 7:13pm

If I'm honest I'm partial to a curvy woman, no qualms with a bit of a belly and a chubby bum. It's very sexy.

But there's a line... That woman that was flouted as the face of obese is beautiful and made it in all the magazines, no, just no.

mariaalice · 13-12-2019 7:16pm

My mother had this saying as God made them he matched them, everyone has different tastes. The bit I can't figure out is why this is supposed to be some sort of secret or a revelation.

Alecto · 13-12-2019 7:17pm

Don Joe wrote: »

If I'm honest I'm partial to a curvy woman, no qualms with a bit of a belly and a chubby bum. It's very sexy.

But there's a line... That woman that was flouted as the face of obese is beautiful and made it in all the magazines, no, just no.

Yeah I suppose I was thinking along the lines of maybe not bigger than a size 22-24ish.

misterme123 · 13-12-2019 7:18pm

Alecto wrote: »

I'd really like if this could not turn into a fatty bashing thread but I won't hold my breath. So I'm a size 16-18 myself and while I'd definitely like to be toned and less wobbly, I'm not too bothered about my actual size, though my self esteem tends to fluctuate. I actually prefer bigger women myself. I used to be on this feeder website and I was really surprised how many men loved chubby and bigger women. So my question is, do you think it's not as rare as we're led to believe and that some men secretly like bigger women but it's not acceptable in society to say so?

Do you mean "chubby and bigger" compared to the average in society or compared to what is medically considered a healthy amount of body fat? Because a very large percentage of people in Ireland (male and female) are overweight nowadays anyway. Skinny people are less skinny, overweight people are more overweight and there are more people at the extremes of obesity too. If the trend continues, it can't be taboo for much longer to be into bigger women because they'll make up the majority of women. That's if it's even taboo to begin with of course. I'll leave it to someone else to open a thread on the dad bod...

Alecto · 13-12-2019 7:20pm

mariaalice wrote: »

My mother had this saying as God made them he matched them, everyone has different tastes. The bit I can't figure out is why this is supposed to be some sort of secret or a revelation.

But then why do we rarely see a fat person on tv or in films? Why are most people only considered attractive if they are thin? Different strokes for different folks for sure but it seems like as long as you're not fat.

limnam · 13-12-2019 7:21pm

Alecto wrote: »

But then why do we rarely see a fat person on tv or in films? Why are most people only considered attractive if they are thin? Different strokes for different folks for sure but it seems like as long as you're not fat.

Plenty of ugly skinny fckers.

Alecto · 13-12-2019 7:22pm

limnam wrote: »

Plenty of ugly skinny fckers.

Faces matter a lot more to me than bodies so I'm always confused by this. I know people have different tastes but it's like as long as you're thin you can be on tv and face doesn't seem to matter half as much.

Don Joe · 13-12-2019 7:26pm

Alecto wrote: »

Yeah I suppose I was thinking along the lines of maybe not bigger than a size 22-24ish.

I'd be thinking cut off 18-20.

I dunno. I'll get killed for this, but my personal preference is for a woman who still looks... Womanly, if she's got extra pounds.. Or stone, that's no issue once she's still shapely, boobs much larger than belly.. Some larger people lose shape if that makes sense.

Not all size 16s or 18s are the same shape, some are sexy as could be, others are just large.

mariaalice · 13-12-2019 7:29pm

Alecto wrote: »

Faces matter a lot more to me than bodies so I'm always confused by this. I know people have different tastes but it's like as long as you're thin you can be on tv and face doesn't seem to matter half as much.

Thats not true, years ago i was friendly with a girl in work who was large but tall enought to carry it off, also very beautiful and very elegant the nails, hair makeup was always done going in to pubs men would turn around and look at her.

Beauty is a big factor and that is down to genetics.

Wibbs · 13-12-2019 7:38pm

From my observations anyway I've noted that a fair majority of men, Irish men anyway, seem to prefer bigger women and boobs are a near obsession.

When I say bigger I mean from 14-20 kinda range. Small framed women not so much and what we might see as "curvy" might be "fat" to say a Czech chap. As a very general rule anyway.

Alecto wrote:

But then why do we rarely see a fat person on tv or in films? Why are most people only considered attractive if they are thin? Different strokes for different folks for sure but it seems like as long as you're not fat.

The camera tends to add perceived weight and thin tends to wear clothes better on camera(or clothes are made with thinner people in mind). Plus media will tend to reflect more of the current cultural ideal than everyday life. I've read that one reason thinner people started to feature more on TV and in flims was when more nude and sex scenes came along and thinner bodies look better naked. Though I don't buy that as long before nude scenes were a regular thing in film actors of both sexes were still thin, though people were thinner on average in general anyway.

As for Marilyn Monroe, at her biggest she was more like a size 12, but more usually a size 8-10 and with a tiny waist. As well as getting heavier people's bodyshapes have changed too. We've got generally taller and broader and hourglass figures in women are a lower percentage in the population compared to 50 or a 100 years ago. We're also fatter at younger ages. Middle aged spread tends to happen before actual middle age. In the English speaking world moreso. EG in Spain and Italy women of 20 are smaller by a couple of sizes on average than Irish and British women, but by 40, all match up more.

cj maxx · 13-12-2019 7:38pm

Dial Hard wrote: »

Nope. Completely apocryphal.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/marilyn-monroe-was-not-even-close-to-a-size-12-16/

That is a tragic read. Though I suppose it's been covered in the media alot.
I had to Google 'apocryphal' so a new word learned today. I never knew there was a size 2 !

Thespoofer · 13-12-2019 7:42pm

Sexiness comes in all shapes and sizes.

SusieBlue · 13-12-2019 7:44pm

From my own personal experience I’ve been both a size 6 and a size 16 as an adult, so very different ends of the spectrum and I feel most confident & get the most attention from the opposite sex when I’m between a size 10/12.

My confidence was on the floor when I was at the bigger end of the scale which might have been why men didn’t approach me as much. So I can’t really say whether men didn’t like me cause of my size or whether they could smell my insecurity a mile off.
When I was on the smaller end I looked very sickly, to the point where it was regularly remarked upon. People genuinely thought I was suffering from a serious illness.

I’m a size 10 now and quite happy at that, though I’d rather be more toned but it’s a work in progress.

I do think confidence is the most important thing, regardless of size if you are comfortable and happy in yourself that will shine through and make you more attractive.

Don Joe · 13-12-2019 7:44pm

Wibbs wrote: »

From my observations anyway I've noted that a fair majority of men, Irish men anyway, seem to prefer bigger women and boobs are a near obsession.

I'll raise my hand here. 14-20. She must be booby

Always perplexed when i see larger women with virtually no boobs.

HappyAsLarE · 13-12-2019 7:46pm

I’d tea bag a fatty but I wouldn’t marry one, if ya get me

IAMAMORON · 13-12-2019 7:46pm

Keep it natural. You grow naturally, enjoy your life and be healthy.

Real women are more than just their dress size.

eviltwin · 13-12-2019 7:46pm

I'm a big person married to a big person. I don't care if every single person on the planet thinks I'm a big fat disgusting pig, the only opinion that matters is my other half. Once he likes me as much as I fancy him it's happy days. Personally I have no issue with size, some of the sexiest people I ever met were packing a few pounds.

Wibbs · 13-12-2019 7:46pm

cjmc wrote: »

That is a tragic read. Though I suppose it's been covered in the media alot.
I had to Google 'apocryphal' so a new word learned today. I never knew there was a size 2 !

Size 2 is IIRC around an Irish size 6/8? This bit stood out for me: The average American woman in the 1950s had a 25 inch waist compared to Monroe’s 22 inches. Whereas today, the average American woman has a waist size of 34 inches 34 inches? Jaysus. Unless she's 6'4...

And yep Ms Monroe was not even close to being a "bigger woman"

Alecto · 13-12-2019 7:51pm

SusieBlue wrote: »

From my own personal experience I’ve been both a size 6 and a size 16 as an adult, so very different ends of the spectrum and I feel most confident & get the most attention from the opposite sex when I’m between a size 10/12.

My confidence was on the floor when I was at the bigger end of the scale which might have been why men didn’t approach me as much. So I can’t really say whether men didn’t like me cause of my size or whether they could smell my insecurity a mile off.
When I was on the smaller end I looked very sickly, to the point where it was regularly remarked upon. People genuinely thought I was suffering from a serious illness.

I’m a size 10 now and quite happy at that, though I’d rather be more toned but it’s a work in progress.

I do think confidence is the most important thing, regardless of size if you are comfortable and happy in yourself that will shine through and make you more attractive.

I think I've never thought to myself "oh god, no one will have sex with me because I'm fat" so if I met someone in a pub I'd be flirtatious and friendly and outgoing. But then again I'd have drink in me too and be done up and that's part of it. I suppose I've thought that casual sex wouldn't be a problem as a larger woman but I think it could hold me back in finding a relationship.

Turquoise Hexagon Sun · 13-12-2019 7:54pm

I like tall and slim. Rarely would I like curvey. To me, it's associated with lack of excercise and/or potential health issues and that's for everyone, not just the opposite sex, obviously.

I have always had an athletic build but recently because a bit fat, especually on the belly. So I hit the gym. Still trying to work off the belly but getting there.

Sebastian Dangerfield · 13-12-2019 7:58pm

Wibbs wrote: »

As for Marilyn Monroe, at her biggest she was more like a size 12, but more usually a size 8-10 and with a tiny waist.

"D'ya know why they call that 'a waist'? You'd 'aisily fit another pair of tits there"

castletownman · 13-12-2019 8:01pm

Give me a bigger woman over the skinny instagram star wannabes any day of the week.

Wibbs · 13-12-2019 8:03pm

eviltwin wrote: »

I'm a big person married to a big person. I don't care if every single person on the planet thinks I'm a big fat disgusting pig, the only opinion that matters is my other half.

Exactly. I don't get this near anger with some about whether someone is too fat or thin for them. So what? Nobody's asking you to marry them or anything.

Now to be honest, I can see why someone might get wound up if they met someone and after a few years of being "settled" they, man or woman, piled on the pounds. Barring illness or a medical condition of course. And I've seen it happen in men and women, slightly more men actually and men have no excuse, again barring illness, to be sporting a hairy space hopper gut at 40, when they were thin/normal at 20.

Quantum Erasure · 13-12-2019 8:08pm

Thespoofer wrote: »

Sexiness comes in all shapes and sizes.

yes, yes he does

Dial Hard · 13-12-2019 8:09pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Now to be honest, I can see why someone might get wound up if they met someone and after a few years of being "settled" they, man or woman, piled on the pounds. Barring illness or a medical condition of course. And I've seen it happen in men and women, slightly more men actually and men have no excuse, again barring illness, to be sporting a hairy space hopper gut at 40, when they were thin/normal at 20.

The reverse can apply too. My sister watches a lot of a particular programme about morbidly obese people who get gastric bypass surgery. In a significant number of cases (particularly where the patient is female, for some reason), it's very clear that the partner is *not* happy about it.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-12-2019 8:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

Not really though. Even her biggest inch measurements weren’t bigger than today’s size 12 on the hips and size 8-10 on the waist.

She was clearly never overweight. You just had to look at her to know that.

Professor Genius · 13-12-2019 8:09pm

Alecto wrote: »

I'd really like if this could not turn into a fatty bashing thread but I won't hold my breath. So I'm a size 16-18 myself and while I'd definitely like to be toned and less wobbly, I'm not too bothered about my actual size, though my self esteem tends to fluctuate. I actually prefer bigger women myself. I used to be on this feeder website and I was really surprised how many men loved chubby and bigger women. So my question is, do you think it's not as rare as we're led to believe and that some men secretly like bigger women but it's not acceptable in society to say so?

What the f is a feeder website dare I ask?

OOnegative · 13-12-2019 8:12pm

https://youtu.be/X53ZSxkQ3Ho

Sir-Mix-A-Lot says it best!!

Wibbs · 13-12-2019 8:14pm

Dial Hard wrote: »

The reverse can apply too. My sister watches a lot of a particular programme about morbidly obese people who get gastric bypass surgery. In a significant number of cases (particularly where the patient is female, for some reason), it's very clear that the partner is *not* happy about it.

Oh yeah, I know a guy who left an ex because she lost a load of weight. Or at least that was a big part of it. He has always preferred bigger women, obese even. That's his thing and fair enough.

In some cases I suspect one reason for partners not being happy at weight loss or any improvement in general attractiveness in their other half is a concern that the other person now appears to have more options and might leave them. Doubly so if they were more matched in weight and the like at the start and one has changed in quite a big way by comparison.

ceadaoin. · 13-12-2019 8:18pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Size 2 is IIRC around an Irish size 6/8? This bit stood out for me: The average American woman in the 1950s had a 25 inch waist compared to Monroe’s 22 inches. Whereas today, the average American woman has a waist size of 34 inches 34 inches? Jaysus. Unless she's 6'4...

And yep Ms Monroe was not even close to being a "bigger woman"

US 2 is supposed to be an irish/uk size 6 but in my experience its definitely bigger, more like an 8-10. Yeah she had a pretty normal figure for the time I'd say. I have no idea why she is considered to be big at all, must be the boobs and the fact that she doesn't look like she starved herself to that size. That second pic looks just like the average movie star size today, except less toned maybe. I don't think that was expected of women back then?

Average waist size 34 inches?! That's crazy and certainly not something I notice on a daily basis. I know people think the US is full of obese people but most people that
I see are normal sized or super fit. I guess the super obese people skew the figures somewhat but how do they arrive at these "averages" anyway?

Wibbs · 13-12-2019 8:19pm

OOnegative wrote: »

https://youtu.be/X53ZSxkQ3Ho

Sir-Mix-A-Lot says it best!!

Joke is the women in that video are size 8's if that and very athletic as dancers are and compared to the huge arse instagram dolly birds of today and by comparison to that family of inflated arsed eejits whose da became their ma, they're near anorexic.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-12-2019 8:20pm

When I was 11.5 stone at 5’ 3”, my waist measured 32”. I was BMI 27-28 if I recall. And I fit comfortably into airline seats and whatnot. 34” isn’t as ginormous as you’re imagining! I lost weight and my waist was then 28”. It wasn’t a dramatic reduction.

gozunda · 13-12-2019 8:21pm

I'd concur

Quantum Erasure · 13-12-2019 8:23pm

ceadaoin. · 13-12-2019 8:28pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

When I was 11.5 stone at 5’ 3”, my waist measured 32”. I was BMI 27-28 if I recall. And I fit comfortably into airline seats and whatnot. 34” isn’t as ginormous as you’re imagining! I lost weight and my waist was then 28”. It wasn’t a dramatic reduction.

My leg length is about 34 inches, I'm trying to imagine my leg made into a circle and it seems pretty big tbh . But I accept that my scientific method could be totally wrong!

Wibbs · 13-12-2019 8:30pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That second pic looks just like the average movie star size today, except less toned maybe. I don't think that was expected of women back then?

Yeah the toned women's bodies thing really took off after the aerobics/fitness fad of the 80's(feel the burn!) and kept going. The 90's focus on six pack stomachs really added to it, even today with the big arses thing the stomach(and legs) tends to be toned as well. The gym craze escaping the minority pursuit plugged into that. Back in Monroe's time and before women's ideal was small of frame, hourglass figure, but still soft of curve and womanly. Which I suppose these days be actually harder to achieve? Even in the 60's with Twiggy and the like where "thin was in" they weren't sporting muscles.

Men's ideal has shifted too. OK it's not as extreme as the 80's steroided up action hero with muscles under their eyebrows, but it's definitely more toned and muscled. Though in general men's bodyshape ideal varies significantly less than women's over time and culture. A "Miss World" winner of the 50's or 60's wouldn't get past the local heats today. Would Marilyn be nearly so popular a sex symbol these days? I doubt it. But say Michelangelo's David would pretty consistently hover around the male ideal body over the last 3000 years.

Deebles McBeebles · 13-12-2019 8:34pm

As Prince once said;

"Honey, them hips is gone
That's alright, I clock 'em that way
Remind me of something James used to say
"I like 'em fat", "I like 'em proud"
"Ya gotta have a mother for me"
Now move your big ass 'round this way
So I can work on that zipper, baby
Tonight you're a star and I'm the big dipper".

Wibbs · 13-12-2019 8:43pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

My leg length is about 34 inches, I'm trying to imagine my leg made into a circle and it seems pretty big tbh . But I accept that my scientific method could be totally wrong!

It's very subjective alright. I'm male, 5'11, around 10-11 stone* with a 29/30 inch waist and if I were to go up to 34 bejayzus I'd feel it. So I'm probably basing much of it on that. Now in fairness I'd be considered skinny today, but 40+ years back I'd be decidedly average. And skinny will show a bigger effect of an extra stone than someone bigger.

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

As Prince once said;

And yet his romantic interests were as tiny as he was.

*don't know precisely, don't have a scales. That's what I was at 20 and my clothes size remained the same.

bazz26 · 13-12-2019 8:53pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk

13-12-2019 9:13pm

Professor Genius wrote: »

What the f is a feeder website dare I ask?

Just-eat.ie

Bigger women - secretly liked

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