Why is Tommy Tiernan not the prime talk show host on RTÉ?

Notoldorwise · 08-12-2019 1:02am #1

Genuine question, why not? Just watched him interview Barry Keoghan. The ability to bring the best conversation out of any interviewee is really refreshing on RTE.

Church on Tuesday · 08-12-2019 1:03am

Prefer the format of his own show TBH.

touts · 08-12-2019 1:22am

Notoldorwise wrote: »

Genuine question, why not? Just watched him interview Barry Keoghan. The ability to bring the best conversation out of any interviewee is really refreshing on RTE.

"Refreshing". Ah now we can't be having that sort of thing on RTE. If tis new fangled things like conversations you'll be wanting best to follow the like minded Irish lads like Norton over to the Saxon channels.

mickdw · 08-12-2019 1:32am

He is taking Darcy slot after Christmas.

kenmc · 08-12-2019 10:39am

mickdw wrote: »

He is taking Darcy slot after Christmas.

Should be taking tubs too. Excellent interviewer, actually listens to what the guests say, some really deep, insightful questions

SmartinMartin · 08-12-2019 10:50am

He's a dickhead.

JohnnyFlash · 08-12-2019 11:03am

kenmc wrote: »

Should be taking tubs too. Excellent interviewer, actually listens to what the guests say, some really deep, insightful questions

I like Tiernan, and I also like deep, insightful questions. Just not all the time. He’d be a terrible presenter of the LLS.

Felix Jones is God. · 08-12-2019 11:09am

I saw that interview last night...one of the most awkward attempts from Tommy I've witnessed... giving Barry his intense stare while struggling to ask coherent questions ... anyone thinking that was some of Tommy's best work is a bit deluded I'm afraid

MadDog76 · 08-12-2019 12:19pm

SmartinMartin wrote: »

He's a dickhead.

He has the same opinion of you, funnily enough.

SmartinMartin · 08-12-2019 1:42pm

That you Tommy? Lol.

elperello · 08-12-2019 1:46pm

TT is very good at the format he is currently presenting.
I hope RTE don't make the mistake of shoehorning him into a form of show he may not be good at.
They have a gem they should be happy with that.

RobbingBandit · 08-12-2019 1:49pm

I'd guess they'd be afraid to give him an open platform

Bobblehats · 08-12-2019 1:55pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

I'd guess they'd be afraid to give him an open platform

Not related so but they’re afraid to give hector a platform at all

elperello · 08-12-2019 1:59pm

Bobblehats wrote: »

Not related so but they’re afraid to give hector a platform at all

A bit related though in that they both have talent that needs to be nurtured and worked with.
RTE needs to follow the energy.

Berserker5 · 08-12-2019 2:01pm

A robot could do what they're doing

Would be cheaper than paying a human

Berserker5 · 08-12-2019 2:03pm

Bobblehats wrote: »

Not related so but they’re afraid to give hector a platform at all

He's PC enough really

I remember him on one of his travel shows and he was afraid to admit if he smoked pot when asked, wtf

Mam of 4 · 08-12-2019 2:04pm

I don't like Tommy Tiernan as a comedian/stand up , whatever , but when he hosted his chat show it was good . The fact that he didn't know who the guests were until they came out made for some good off the cuff questions etc .
Well , I thought so anyway !

Yamanoto · 08-12-2019 2:05pm

SmartinMartin wrote: »

He's a dickhead.

Doesn't matter.

He's demonstrated he's a natural interviewer, with the requisite social and emotional intelligence to understand the ebb and flow of a conversation and how to tease out the best from his guests.

By contrast, if a guest revealed to D'Arcy they'd just received a terminal diagnosis earlier that day, he'd plough ahead with whatevers next on his cue cards "So, I believe you and Red Hurley are heading to Haiti with GOAL, are ye excited about that?"

Berserker5 · 08-12-2019 2:13pm

Yamanoto wrote: »

Doesn't matter.

He's demonstrated he's a natural interviewer, with the requisite social and emotional intelligence to understand the ebb and flow of a conversation and how to tease out the best from his guests.

By contrast, if a guest revealed to D'Arcy they'd just received a terminal diagnosis earlier that day, he'd plough ahead with whatevers next on his cue cards "So, I believe you and Red Hurley are heading to Haiti with GOAL after you're dead,are ye excited about that?"

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Bobblehats · 08-12-2019 2:14pm

Berserker5 wrote: »

He's PC enough really

I remember him on one of his travel shows and he was afraid to admit if he smoked pot when asked, wtf

But it’s not the best thing to admit. He left it unanswered? Well there’s your answer hector’s too cute for that crap

lalababa · 08-12-2019 2:20pm

Tubs and Darcy , what can you say. It is what it is. Tubs has to have a 'verbal battle' of one-upmanship toxic masculinity thinly disguised as 'the craic' with all his guests. He has to be seen to dominate the conversation. Thus resulting in firing questions, opinions, and meaningless adjuncts disrupting any hope of a relaxed interview.
Still alot of people watch so tis just my opinion. And maybe he's mellowed as I haven't watched in years.
Ray is much more accommodating but I can't say much more as I don't watch it.
RTE is a bit sick ATM to say the least.
Needs a whole new shake up, back to basics ,and a serious clear outðŸ™‚
Will it happen....no.

Bobblehats · 08-12-2019 2:21pm

Everybody on there needs a good hectoring.

IAMAMORON · 08-12-2019 2:37pm

I was watching his show from nearly 20 years ago on TG4 last night. It was a lovely watch and I really enjoyed it. He was walking around the country, it is lovely timepiece if you ask me.

He gets a hard time from a lot of people, but for me at least he has the balls to get up there and give it a lash. There will always be other comedians, but I think he is fine for what he is at.

Comedy is so subjective, one mans pizza is another mans cheesecake. If you know what I mean.

Bobblehats · 08-12-2019 2:46pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Comedy is so subjective, one mans pizza is another mans cheesecake. If you know what I mean.

Sweet/savoury?

I suppose that’s if it’s vegetarian pizza. What if it’s a nutella pizza? Can’t be good

Ready4Boarding · 08-12-2019 2:47pm

Chat shows call for a particular style. Think of the American hosts who all have in-your-face, hysterical charisma. Loath him or loath him, Tubridy has that. Two hours of low-energy Tiernan, week in week out, would be too much to handle. I’m not sure he’d take it, either. Bit too establishment alongside his stand up career.

IAMAMORON · 08-12-2019 2:48pm

Bobblehats wrote: »

Sweet/savoury?

I suppose that’s if it’s vegetarian pizza. What if it’s a nutella pizza? Can’t be good

Chocolate pizza is actually not the worst. I have eating a few dodgy breakfasts in my time. When I have the munchies anything is possible really.

Cold 16 hour old pizza is really a delicacy, think about it.

Bobblehats · 08-12-2019 2:55pm

Well maybe if it’s sourdough. Its all about the base right? Anything’s good on a sourdough......

mmm.. marmite pizza on a sourdough base. Suddenly everybody’s in agreement

IAMAMORON · 08-12-2019 2:58pm

Bobblehats wrote: »

Well maybe if it’s sourdough. Its all about the base right? Anything’s good on a sourdough......

mmm.. marmite pizza on a sourdough base. Suddenly everybody’s in agreement

Now that is controversial....

Sam Quentin · 08-12-2019 3:54pm

To be a good interviewer,I think you need some kind of or at least show some kind of star-struck aura towards certain guests... unlike lots of Irish interviewers who seem to over compensate and even can become a bit sneary towards mega stars,who I think deserve more respect!? Anyway Tommy seems to have that empathy and just niceness towards his guests, which is a good thing...... Don't get me wrong I was never pushed on him as a comedian especially his early years,but most recently I think he has grown on me.

Berserker5 · 08-12-2019 3:59pm

Bobblehats wrote: »

But it’s not the best thing to admit. He left it unanswered? Well there’s your answer hector’s too cute for that crap

Maybe 50yrs ago

Nobody's gonna care if he smoked pot

Jinglejangle69 · 08-12-2019 4:01pm

He’s a strange one.

As soon as he got big and well known his stand up went terrible.

And the exposure of this at that time nearly finished him off.

It’s like he started fresh? stopped the shouting and he’s now bigger than ever.

Really enjoy the show, he’s a clever man.

Agricola · 08-12-2019 4:03pm

That's an easy one. RTE want prim and proper besuited yesmen (and yeswomen) to front primetime TV shows. The kind of people that have "RTE4Life" tattoos.

Tiernan is a good natural interviewer, but he has a reputation as a maverick and someone who wouldn't toe a party line. Given his track record, in today's social media age where one wrong word can end a career / bring an organisation into disrepute, the top brass at RTE wouldn't be keen on giving him a big job with a big contract I'd imagine.

And when cretins like Ryan Tubridy are probably bringing in the big (and much needed) ad revenue through high viewing figures, why would you risk someone like Tiernan. I know he's getting a shot next year but I've no doubt D'arcy will be back take his place again or some other RTE lifer next season.

Ready4Boarding wrote: »

Chat shows call for a particular style. Think of the American hosts who all have in-your-face, hysterical charisma. Loath him or loath him, Tubridy has that.

Could I interest you in some magic beans?

elperello · 08-12-2019 4:04pm

Berserker5 wrote: »

Maybe 50yrs ago

Nobody's gonna care if he smoked pot

Depends on where you admit to smoking it.

Never good to admit to breaking the law.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 08-12-2019 4:29pm

I need to watch some of his interviews. I’ve avoided them because I’m not the biggest fan of Tommy Tiernan as a person. I find him a bit po-faced. But maybe that makes a good interviewer.

Church on Tuesday · 08-12-2019 5:46pm

Bobblehats wrote: »

Everybody on there needs a good hectoring.

No thanks.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 08-12-2019 6:07pm

SmartinMartin wrote: »

He's a dickhead.

Yup, an absolute **** stain.

Mrcaramelchoc · 08-12-2019 6:11pm

Berserker5 wrote: »

A robot could do what they're doing

Would be cheaper than paying a human

Could you do better?i would pay money to see what you could do.they may be ****e but it aint an easy thing to do.the keyboard warrior thing is working out better for you methinks.

Deebles McBeebles · 08-12-2019 6:15pm

He's the best interviewer RTE have by far, his show is pure class. A top, top stand up on his day too.

Berserker5 · 08-12-2019 7:29pm

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Could you do better?i would pay money to see what you could do.they may be ****e but it aint an easy thing to do.the keyboard warrior thing is working out better for you methinks.

I'd say you're mor the keyboard warrior type tbh

Boggles · 08-12-2019 8:17pm

Agricola wrote: »

Tiernan is a good natural interviewer, but he has a reputation as a maverick and someone who wouldn't toe a party line. Given his track record, in today's social media age where one wrong word can end a career / bring an organisation into disrepute

He asked Kellie Maloney previously Frank what her fanny is like.

I'm sure he'll be grand.

:pac:

Personally I like his show, but I don't think his interview questions are that great TBH, understandable really given the format.

A lot of silence and acting profound but very little substance.

briany · 08-12-2019 8:36pm

Tiernan is, by some distance, the best interviewer RTE television have. But he wouldn't work in the main slot.

For one thing, I'd say he enjoys the freedom of not doing a TV show year round (or 9 months) in order to do standup.

For another, he'd be pressured into adopting a traditional talk show approach where the questions are prepped and he knows who he'll be interviewing. Couldn't have him asking the likes of Ryan Reynolds an insightful, off-the-cuff question. He's coming there to plug his new movie and give some light spiel about how much he likes Ireland, not give a revealing answer about his insecurities as an actor. Once you shoehorn Tiernan into that mode, you might as well have D'Arcy or Callaghan for all the difference it'd make.

Rothko · 08-12-2019 11:16pm

Ready4Boarding wrote: »

Chat shows call for a particular style. Think of the American hosts who all have in-your-face, hysterical charisma. Loath him or loath him, Tubridy has that. Two hours of low-energy Tiernan, week in week out, would be too much to handle. I’m not sure he’d take it, either. Bit too establishment alongside his stand up career.

Not every chat show has to be in the American mould, thankfully.

yosser hughes · 08-12-2019 11:22pm

Why does anyone think there needs to be any prime time chat show? Particularly on the public service broadcaster. The chat show as a format is on the way out.
It's awful
Apart from that, Tiernan labours under the delusion that he's some kind of intellectual. He genuinely does.
Unfunny man and a dilettante.

ILoveYourVibes · 09-12-2019 2:18am

SmartinMartin wrote: »

He's a dickhead.

So was Pat Kenny ...didnt make a difference.

ILoveYourVibes · 09-12-2019 2:19am

yosser hughes wrote: »

Why does anyone think there needs to be any prime time chat show? Particularly on the public service broadcaster. The chat show as a format is on the way out.
It's awful
Apart from that, Tiernan labours under the delusion that he's some kind of intellectual. He genuinely does.
Unfunny man and a dilettante.

He is very good at improv.

I don't understand why Des Bishop doesn't have a show.

He is talented and professional..according to ALL who have met him very polite and easy going.

Mad_maxx · 09-12-2019 8:39am

lalababa wrote: »

Tubs and Darcy , what can you say. It is what it is. Tubs has to have a 'verbal battle' of one-upmanship toxic masculinity thinly disguised as 'the craic' with all his guests. He has to be seen to dominate the conversation. Thus resulting in firing questions, opinions, and meaningless adjuncts disrupting any hope of a relaxed interview.
Still alot of people watch so tis just my opinion. And maybe he's mellowed as I haven't watched in years.
Ray is much more accommodating but I can't say much more as I don't watch it.
RTE is a bit sick ATM to say the least.
Needs a whole new shake up, back to basics ,and a serious clear out&#55357;&#56898;
Will it happen....no.

I lost you at Tubridy and " masculinity"

RayCon · 09-12-2019 10:25am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I don't understand why Des Bishop doesn't have a show.

... Probably because he'll try to squeeze in his Immersion joke from about 20yrs ago at every opportunity. Ha ha .... observational .... or something.

briany · 09-12-2019 11:58pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I lost you at Tubridy and " masculinity"

The dainty little bugger.

dubzjay · 10-12-2019 1:05am

Tommy subscribes to the LOUDER=FUNNIER model of comedy.

He ****ing sucks.

dubzjay · 10-12-2019 1:06am

RayCon wrote: »

... Probably because he'll try to squeeze in his Immersion joke from about 20yrs ago at every opportunity. Ha ha .... observational .... or something.

To be fair, that's every Irish comedian ever.

blade1 · 10-12-2019 6:50am

SmartinMartin wrote: »

He's a dickhead.

He'll slot in nicely so!

Why is Tommy Tiernan not the prime talk show host on RTÉ?

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