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Cattle pen with crash barrier

  • 30-01-2018 11:04am
    #1
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi guys. I'm planning on erecting a small loading pen with open box beam uprights and crash barrier rails. About 2 14' rails long by 16' wide.

    If l bolt the rails to the uprights, I'm concerned about the ends of the rails being exposed and catching cattle or myself.

    Love to hear anyones comments/ recommendations about cattle penning in general.

    Thanks


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  • #2
    larthehar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    Muckit wrote: »
    Hi guys. I'm planning on erecting a small loading pen with open box beam uprights and crash barrier rails. About 2 14' rails long by 16' wide.

    If l bolt the rails to the uprights, I'm concerned about the ends of the rails being exposed and catching cattle or myself.

    Love to hear anyones comments/ recommendations about cattle penning in general.

    Thanks

    You even commented on this thread! Tidy job by ren..

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057486411/1


  • #3
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Thanks. I suppose l should have clarified. This is a field away from yard. Only needed to gather and load a handful of times each year. Dry stock so no AI. Also very different scale. Very different budget.


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    Genghis Cant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Muckit wrote: »
    Thanks. I suppose l should have clarified. This is a field away from yard. Only needed to gather and load a handful of times each year. Dry stock so no AI. Also very different scale. Very different budget.

    Would a few aul pallets tied with baler twine not do you? :-)


  • #5
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Be wary of the gap between the crash barriers, Muckit. Can't give you the ideal measurement but I had a cow put her head through a gate last year and it was a job to get her out. Used a bottle jack. Can't do that with rigid crash barriers.
    Too wide apart and they will all be putting their heads out. Too near and you'll be wondering if calves will do the same.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • #6
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I'm going using 3 rails of crash barrier. I've been i formed they're 12". And I'll space 6" apart. I'll prob bolt timbers in between 2 bottom rails to close the gap.


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  • #7
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Genghis Cant wrote: »
    Would a few aul pallets tied with baler twine not do you? :-)

    That's not far off off what I'm using already!


  • #8
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭visatorro


    I bought ten mobile eight foot gates, five foot high. I had 26 weanlings and thought it was slightly small so tied in a fifteen foot field gate as well. Enticed them with meal. Gates were 960 all in. Only took it down yesterday because in testing soon and I'll use them as a race around yard. Connacht agri do them as well.


  • #9
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Muckit will there be more than one load in it? reason I'm asking is it might be better to have a separate smaller pen to sort whatever will be in a load first IYKWIM.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #10
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Muckit will there be more than one load in it? reason I'm asking is it might be better to have a separate smaller pen to sort whatever will be in a load first IYKWIM.

    Yes was planning on splitting it in 2 with a 12' and 4' gate. Won't be any more than 10-15cattle


  • #11
    Hagimalone
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Hagimalone


    Planning on using crash barrier on one side of crush race, what measurements did any of ye use between them. Distance from ground and between each other. 250kg weanlings would be the lightest stock.


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  • #12
    ford 5600
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭ford 5600


    Hagimalone wrote: »
    Planning on using crash barrier on one side of crush race, what measurements did any of ye use between them. Distance from ground and between each other. 250kg weanlings would be the lightest stock.


    Each barrier is 12 inches/a ft. I used 3 barriers.
    So , 12 inch gap from ground to bottom of bottom barrier, 6 inch gap , another 12 inch barrier , another 6 inch gap , and then the last 12 inch barrier . Total height of 5 ft . Happy with it , and have had various age stock in it .


  • #13
    Count Mondego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    I'm looking to build a holding pen in a bit of land I have away from the farm. Usually walk cattle over the road to it, about a mile and a half on a busy road but that's not an option going forward with the temperament of cattle and amount of cars on the road. I as aiming to use Crash barriers, which are easy to get but it's impossible to get the steel uprights. I'll have to use heavy 8ft strainer posts for this instead.

    What distance between posts would you get away with, considering the barriers are 14' with an overlap of 1' on joins?

    I'll have 3 barriers on each side. Usually heavy store cattle down there too.


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  • #14
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Hagimalone wrote: »
    Planning on using crash barrier on one side of crush race....

    Not something I'd be in favour of if animals have to be tested through it. Makes it hard to get the jab in as movement is limited. More likely to get an arm caught too due to the contortions needed to get at an animal.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • #15
    MfMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Count Mondego wrote: »
    I'm looking to build a holding pen in a bit of land I have away from the farm. Usually walk cattle over the road to it, about a mile and a half on a busy road but that's not an option going forward with the temperament of cattle and amount of cars on the road. I as aiming to use Crash barriers, which are easy to get but it's impossible to get the steel uprights. I'll have to use heavy 8ft strainer posts for this instead.

    What distance between posts would you get away with, considering the barriers are 14' with an overlap of 1' on joins?

    I'll have 3 barriers on each side. Usually heavy store cattle down there too.


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    You try these guys, FRS in Boyle, Roscommon, for uprights? at €40 VAT incl. their uprights are cheaper than H-beams, and probably easier bored. Cheaper again, get old railway concrete sleepers @ €10. About 1/4 ton in weight, 8' long. Stick them down in 2' of concrete, they'll never budge. Rawl bolt brackets to hold 2" pipe onto them.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/fencingequipment-for-sale/crash-barriers-and-steel-beams/8285327?campaign=14


  • #16
    Count Mondego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    MfMan wrote: »
    You try these guys, FRS in Boyle, Roscommon, for uprights? at €40 VAT incl. their uprights are cheaper than H-beams, and probably easier bored. Cheaper again, get old railway concrete sleepers @ €10. About 1/4 ton in weight, 8' long. Stick them down in 2' of concrete, they'll never budge. Rawl bolt brackets to hold 2" pipe onto them.

    https://www.donedeal.ie/fencingequipment-for-sale/crash-barriers-and-steel-beams/8285327?campaign=14

    He has them but they're a bit rusted.


  • #17
    MfMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Count Mondego wrote: »
    He has them but they're a bit rusted.

    A couple of other places have them too on DD. Some place in Meath as far as I recall...


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