Cattle pen with crash barrier

Muckit

Hi guys. I'm planning on erecting a small loading pen with open box beam uprights and crash barrier rails. About 2 14' rails long by 16' wide.

If l bolt the rails to the uprights, I'm concerned about the ends of the rails being exposed and catching cattle or myself.

Love to hear anyones comments/ recommendations about cattle penning in general.

Thanks

larthehar

Muckit wrote: »

Hi guys. I'm planning on erecting a small loading pen with open box beam uprights and crash barrier rails. About 2 14' rails long by 16' wide.

If l bolt the rails to the uprights, I'm concerned about the ends of the rails being exposed and catching cattle or myself.

Love to hear anyones comments/ recommendations about cattle penning in general.

Thanks

You even commented on this thread! Tidy job by ren..

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057486411/1

Muckit

Thanks. I suppose l should have clarified. This is a field away from yard. Only needed to gather and load a handful of times each year. Dry stock so no AI. Also very different scale. Very different budget.

Genghis Cant

Muckit wrote: »

Thanks. I suppose l should have clarified. This is a field away from yard. Only needed to gather and load a handful of times each year. Dry stock so no AI. Also very different scale. Very different budget.

Would a few aul pallets tied with baler twine not do you? :-)

patsy_mccabe

Be wary of the gap between the crash barriers, Muckit. Can't give you the ideal measurement but I had a cow put her head through a gate last year and it was a job to get her out. Used a bottle jack. Can't do that with rigid crash barriers.
Too wide apart and they will all be putting their heads out. Too near and you'll be wondering if calves will do the same.

Muckit

I'm going using 3 rails of crash barrier. I've been i formed they're 12". And I'll space 6" apart. I'll prob bolt timbers in between 2 bottom rails to close the gap.

Muckit

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Would a few aul pallets tied with baler twine not do you? :-)

That's not far off off what I'm using already!

visatorro

I bought ten mobile eight foot gates, five foot high. I had 26 weanlings and thought it was slightly small so tied in a fifteen foot field gate as well. Enticed them with meal. Gates were 960 all in. Only took it down yesterday because in testing soon and I'll use them as a race around yard. Connacht agri do them as well.

blue5000

Muckit will there be more than one load in it? reason I'm asking is it might be better to have a separate smaller pen to sort whatever will be in a load first IYKWIM.

Muckit

blue5000 wrote: »

Muckit will there be more than one load in it? reason I'm asking is it might be better to have a separate smaller pen to sort whatever will be in a load first IYKWIM.

Yes was planning on splitting it in 2 with a 12' and 4' gate. Won't be any more than 10-15cattle

Hagimalone

Planning on using crash barrier on one side of crush race, what measurements did any of ye use between them. Distance from ground and between each other. 250kg weanlings would be the lightest stock.

ford 5600

Hagimalone wrote: »

Planning on using crash barrier on one side of crush race, what measurements did any of ye use between them. Distance from ground and between each other. 250kg weanlings would be the lightest stock.

Each barrier is 12 inches/a ft. I used 3 barriers.
So , 12 inch gap from ground to bottom of bottom barrier, 6 inch gap , another 12 inch barrier , another 6 inch gap , and then the last 12 inch barrier . Total height of 5 ft . Happy with it , and have had various age stock in it .

Count Mondego

I'm looking to build a holding pen in a bit of land I have away from the farm. Usually walk cattle over the road to it, about a mile and a half on a busy road but that's not an option going forward with the temperament of cattle and amount of cars on the road. I as aiming to use Crash barriers, which are easy to get but it's impossible to get the steel uprights. I'll have to use heavy 8ft strainer posts for this instead.

What distance between posts would you get away with, considering the barriers are 14' with an overlap of 1' on joins?

I'll have 3 barriers on each side. Usually heavy store cattle down there too.


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greysides

Hagimalone wrote: »

Planning on using crash barrier on one side of crush race....

Not something I'd be in favour of if animals have to be tested through it. Makes it hard to get the jab in as movement is limited. More likely to get an arm caught too due to the contortions needed to get at an animal.

MfMan

Count Mondego wrote: »

I'm looking to build a holding pen in a bit of land I have away from the farm. Usually walk cattle over the road to it, about a mile and a half on a busy road but that's not an option going forward with the temperament of cattle and amount of cars on the road. I as aiming to use Crash barriers, which are easy to get but it's impossible to get the steel uprights. I'll have to use heavy 8ft strainer posts for this instead.

What distance between posts would you get away with, considering the barriers are 14' with an overlap of 1' on joins?

I'll have 3 barriers on each side. Usually heavy store cattle down there too.


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You try these guys, FRS in Boyle, Roscommon, for uprights? at €40 VAT incl. their uprights are cheaper than H-beams, and probably easier bored. Cheaper again, get old railway concrete sleepers @ €10. About 1/4 ton in weight, 8' long. Stick them down in 2' of concrete, they'll never budge. Rawl bolt brackets to hold 2" pipe onto them.

https://www.donedeal.ie/fencingequipment-for-sale/crash-barriers-and-steel-beams/8285327?campaign=14

Count Mondego

MfMan wrote: »

You try these guys, FRS in Boyle, Roscommon, for uprights? at €40 VAT incl. their uprights are cheaper than H-beams, and probably easier bored. Cheaper again, get old railway concrete sleepers @ €10. About 1/4 ton in weight, 8' long. Stick them down in 2' of concrete, they'll never budge. Rawl bolt brackets to hold 2" pipe onto them.

https://www.donedeal.ie/fencingequipment-for-sale/crash-barriers-and-steel-beams/8285327?campaign=14

He has them but they're a bit rusted.

MfMan

Count Mondego wrote: »

He has them but they're a bit rusted.

A couple of other places have them too on DD. Some place in Meath as far as I recall...

limo_100

didn't want to start a new thread but i am looking at some temporary cattle penning which would be handy during testing as space is tight would be grand to have a extra pen set up. also have one field away from the house on a dangerous road and would be handy to help control them to let them cross the road or too load them all together.

Cattle Hurdle 8ft | Condon Engineering

Coral Panels - Teemore Engineering - Livestock Housing Specialists

was looking at these different types Teemore do them in 8ft, 10ft and 12ft but 10ft would probably be m preference as it might be easier handled by one person. Also the clipex ones as well but I assume they are more expensive. I would probably start off with 6 lengths off it see how i get on. Anyone any experience with there would you recommend or not?

epfff

I bought bunch of 8'+10' off condron last spring on tams. Only received them last month and haven't used them yet. I have home made ones for years and you need level gound or they become very unsteady.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123808347#Comment_123808347

would be interested to see if you need steady ground for the Condron one as level is not on my side for this

Tibulus

Have anyone costed up a a new grant spec pen and crush with the new rates?

Have an ok crush on an out farm. Fine for loading or handling a single animal. But was a lot of TB testing in recent years and had to move them home for the test. Good crush would make things that little bit easier, if cattle prices hold onto 2026 could be a project.

Tibulus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123807183#Comment_123807183

Baught 5 of these last year. Was an issue getting from Condon. Had 10 ordered.

Good addition, handy for simple things like loading cattle onto a trailer with one person etc. Would recommend the 8ft, would say the 10ft is harder dragged around the yard.

Will probably get a few more when submitting a tams application again.

ABlur

I bought a few of the Clipex ones (6 bars), about the same price as the Condon ones you listed. Find them very heavy, need two people to move them or else a loader. Not much use when you're trying to load cattle on your own. What weight are the Condon ones?

leoch

Off topic lads

bbut were can i het 3 gates to fit between bays sive 15 .5 or 15.75 or wat ever a standard bay size is for a cattle shed or is it something thats a special order

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123815173#Comment_123815173

The handiest would be the extendable gates from Condons/Teemore etc. They’d be more expensive than a standard field gate but probably not a whole lot more if you had to get the field gates specially made to fit. They’d be 2 or 3 times the strength though and would be a lifetime job.

visatorro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123807183#Comment_123807183

The way the teemore ones are shaped at the bottom of the leg is better. I bought them off condon and they have both kinds.

I find them good anyway. Ground would want to be relatively level. I think they are 10ft ones i have. Handy then to set up a pen in the corner of the shed for a sick cow or a few calves.