The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

CIP4 · 13-12-2019 6:24pm

hooch-85 wrote: »

This is from the last available price list.

GTD's were discontinued for a while after this.

Yes that is a bit off I priced a brand new GTI last summer and the Retail was 45,170 euro for a Golf GTI PP 245BHP DSG 5dr with no options and non metallic paint. They were going up 1k at that stage aswell for some emissions tax so would of been 46,170. However when I priced it they were winding down production so wasn't sure if I would actually get one from the factory and none of the garage could guarantee it would be made as Mk8 production was starting up.

easyvision · 13-12-2019 6:33pm

Yes a newish GTD is stupid money. That 44k will come down Id say be 10k withina few months if its still there. Right about depreciation also. GTDs not keeping their value at all

Raging and all, the 2019 one is basically exaclty what I want, oh well

drunkmonkey · 13-12-2019 10:13pm

What milage you doing, what kind of roads, are you getting vat back or anything on diesel. What value do you put on pops and bangs?

easyvision · 13-12-2019 11:43pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What milage you doing, what kind of roads, are you getting vat back or anything on diesel. What value do you put on pops and bangs?

About 30,000km a year , probably 70% motorway. No all my own expense unfort! Just don’t know if the extra fuel and insurance is worth it for a GTI the resale is better. White, black or maybe red, 172 onwards, with max 35k price tag tho pref 30-32. Pretty hard to come by! There’s one of those Black Rubin GTDs going up for 30 for a 181 in Donegal by the colour is a complete no no! Didn’t realize they’d be so rare to come by, unless PCPs start coming in next year, but dealers don’t seem to be getting many in.

DaveyDave · 14-12-2019 1:08am

FKLV have been getting UK stock of Golfs in because they haven't been getting any Irish ones back, don't know if it's the same story for GTI, GTD etc though. At least that's what they told me anyway.

drunkmonkey · 14-12-2019 9:03am

easyvision wrote: »

About 30,000km a year , probably 70% motorway. No all my own expense unfort! Just don’t know if the extra fuel and insurance is worth it for a GTI the resale is better. White, black or maybe red, 172 onwards, with max 35k price tag tho pref 30-32. Pretty hard to come by! There’s one of those Black Rubin GTDs going up for 30 for a 181 in Donegal by the colour is a complete no no! Didn’t realize they’d be so rare to come by, unless PCPs start coming in next year, but dealers don’t seem to be getting many in.

Driving the GTI on that 30,000 will cost about €3600 in fuel, if it's mainly motorway you could probably do it a bit less. If you've cash I'd say you should pull a 172 for somewhere between 25 and 29, that's a lot cheaper than the diesel. At 50,000km a year the diesel is a no brainier at 30k not so much.
If your doing a lot of motorway not a lot of point in stumping up for the dsg, a mk7.5 manual with adaptive cruise would do the job and you've a nicer sounding and cheaper maintain car.

carsfan2 · 14-12-2019 9:47am

easyvision wrote: »

About 30,000km a year , probably 70% motorway. No all my own expense unfort! Just don’t know if the extra fuel and insurance is worth it for a GTI the resale is better. White, black or maybe red, 172 onwards, with max 35k price tag tho pref 30-32. Pretty hard to come by! There’s one of those Black Rubin GTDs going up for 30 for a 181 in Donegal by the colour is a complete no no! Didn’t realize they’d be so rare to come by, unless PCPs start coming in next year, but dealers don’t seem to be getting many in.

If you’re doing that much motorway driving, I’m not sure a gti is the way to go.
I never found it a particularly comfortable relaxing drive on the motorway. Actually I thought it was noisy and fidgety at motorway speeds and not at all economical.others I’m sure will disagree but it would not be my choice. Gti is a much better car off the motorway in my view.

drunkmonkey · 14-12-2019 10:22am

If it was noisy and fidgety you need new tyres or there's something else wrong. Can only comment on the 7.5 but it hums along at motorway speeds. Definitely not figety it's well planted.

vintagevrs · 14-12-2019 12:02pm

I'd prefer a diesel for driving on motorways in general. The lower rpm is the main thing. A diesel will be just ticking over at 2k rpm at 130kph, where as a petrol will be closer to 3k, which just annoys me. The golf I had was only a 6 speed dsg, so maybe the 7th gear helps here but still would prefer the diesel.

Obviously if the diesel is more expensive then that's a different story. I do very little motorway driving but 95% on national roads sitting at 100kph ish. Always felt a fast petrol was wasted on those roads, and same with motorway.

My current car is diesel and I would find it more refined sitting at 100kph than a petrol golf, mainly due to the lower rpm.

eljono · 14-12-2019 12:17pm

vintagevrs wrote: »

I'd prefer a diesel for driving on motorways in general. The lower rpm is the main thing. A diesel will be just ticking over at 2k rpm at 130kph, where as a petrol will be closer to 3k, which just annoys me. The golf I had was only a 6 speed dsg, so maybe the 7th gear helps here but still would prefer the diesel.

Obviously if the diesel is more expensive then that's a different story. I do very little motorway driving but 95% on national roads sitting at 100kph ish. Always felt a fast petrol was wasted on those roads, and same with motorway.

My current car is diesel and I would find it more refined sitting at 100kph than a petrol golf, mainly due to the lower rpm.

I changed from diesel to petrol earlier this year and am glad to be back in petrol after 8 years of the dark stuff. Smoother engine on start up, sounds nicer under acceleration, less rattly at idle and my hands don't stink after filling it up.

The rise in fuel consumption was noticeable at the beginning, but now that I'm used to it, I don't notice.

Before I bought my GTi I had been looking at a 3.0 TDi A4 which someone else snapped up as I was dithering on price. I felt that this was the one that got away. Another one came up a couple of weeks ago, 2 years newer, great spec. I considered it but ultimately have decided to stick with petrol for the foreseeable future. I feel like diesel for my circumstances would be a step backward. Currently average around 20k kms p.a.

deceit · 14-12-2019 2:43pm

For anyone thinking of going stage 1 tune on a Golf 7 R. (The below info may help you choosing)
I've purchased a Revo stage 1 today just to see how it compares to Apr stage 1 I had on the car before I decide what to go stage 2 and beyond with.
The Revo seems to feel more responsive and want to go below 100k but was still slower, after 100 up to 250 it is noticeably slower against the Apr tune. (Both in 98+ octane fuel). On 98+ fuel the Apr tune pulled a tiny bit of time compared to 0 on the Apr (Revo tuner said what the Apr tune pulled was no problem as it was so small but I expect it is a lot worse on Irish fuel and it felt so when I had it over).

I went Revo for the switchable tune for when I'm in Ireland as the Apr tune ran like a dog in Ireland.
With Apr, I kept loosing my tune when I disconnected the battery and it would go into 95 octane low torque mode until I went to APR to get it added again. With the Revo I'm hoping this doesn't happen but if it does I purchased an adapter that arrived while I was at the Revo dealer today, this will allow me change it back myself.
If all goes well in the early new year I will will push stage 2 then 3.

drunkmonkey · 14-12-2019 9:09pm

If you got the APR tune for 95ron and under might have saved you a lot.

deceit · 15-12-2019 1:06am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

If you got the APR tune for 95ron and under might have saved you a lot.

For me that would be a waste as where I live I've 102 fuel (Live in Hamburg 102 fuel, visit Ireland 95 Fuel). Having a switchable map is a lot better for me hence why I had took the chance to switch. If I don't like the tune I can always switch back and its only a few hundred euro so it wouldn't be the end of the world for the experiment.
I just figured someone else might benefit from the information and no have to do the experimenting if choosing themselves.

what the hell! · 17-12-2019 11:28am

0% on the Cupras at the moment. Would anyone have any idea if 450p/m is a good deal for a new one? With my settlement from my PCP on my 152 FR it's coming out at 36981 euro with a sunroof, metallic paint and wireless charger. I'd be throwing in 5000 euro cash too.

dar83 · 17-12-2019 12:05pm

You need to look at more than the monthly to know if it's a good deal or not...

What's the GMFV they're putting on it? From your figures it looks like about 15,800ish? Doesn't seem terrible, but I honestly don't know what kind of money a 3 year old Cupra makes.

It doesn't sound like terrible money but I would say a bit closer to 400pm on a 0% would be the snap it up kind of deal in my opinion, but the Cupra's have crepy up in price in recent times as well haven't they? They're no longer sub 40k bargains they were.

Edit: I just configured one on the website, with everything useful: Adaptive cruise, parking sensors front and rear, rear camera, SEAT navigation system plus, winter pack and the CUPRA bucket seats, total cost €46,308. With the full 30% deposit that comes out as €462.37 per month. That's a deposit of 13,892.41 EUR and a GMFV of €15,770.

So, work out what your overall deposit contribution is, then think about things like delivery etc... and figure out if your €450pm is a good figure.

hooch-85 · 17-12-2019 12:37pm

How much are they giving you for the 152 FR and what kind of equity is that leaving you with?

SaintsYB · 17-12-2019 12:39pm

That doesn't seem particularly great to me. What kind of equity have you in your current car?

When I went to price a new manual GTI Performance, it came out at €420 p/m, costing about €43,500. That was with €5k put in from me, my trade in at just under €14k. That was with 1.9% on PCP too.

drunkmonkey · 17-12-2019 1:04pm

Anyone went for the Revo performance pack, any thoughts on it..seems like it would give an R something to worry about from a rolling start...

https://www.onlyrevo.com/product-details/performance-pack/mqb-20tsi-is20-performance-pack

dar83 · 17-12-2019 1:17pm

Seems expensive for what you get. Intake, Intercooler, Hoses and a Map. €2369. If it's an all-in price including fitting then it's not so bad i guess, as the intercooler is a job.

hooch-85 · 17-12-2019 1:25pm

Fitting is separate. Will transform the car though, add an IS38 turbo and you can go for 350+.

Muppet Man · 17-12-2019 1:46pm

Me with Stage 1 Revo Map last Friday....

Wow... this things gonna get me in trouble....

Thank you Mr Dalton! The pull from 3000 Revs to the red line is phenomenal. Transformed the car. Hard to believe a software tune can be so effective.

Definitely needed the brake upgrade

These are the GTI Clubsport S drilled disks for the front. With new Brembo pads. Yes Please.

tossy · 17-12-2019 1:58pm

Muppet Man wrote: »

Keep your head inside the car

Tenzor07 · 17-12-2019 2:15pm

Hey, anyone put a DTUK Tuning box on their MK7 GTi?

If so how has it worked out for you, if not then why did you remove it or go for another solution? (apart from a full remap).

drunkmonkey · 17-12-2019 2:22pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Hey, anyone put a DTUK Tuning box on their MK7 GTi?

If so how has it worked out for you, if not then why did you remove it or go for another solution? (apart from a full remap).

Was thinking of it they weren't solid on 95ron figures but said you can upload the map and they'll tweak it for your car.
The monutune seems to be suitable for 95 and can't see any details on Racechips and 95..then there's the superchip and JB4

what the hell! · 17-12-2019 2:23pm

hooch-85 wrote: »

How much are they giving you for the 152 FR and what kind of equity is that leaving you with?

I think they were giving me around the 14500 for my FR. And there's around 7200 left on the FR PCP. I should get the proper figures off him-only dealing over text with the usual guy. If I could get a GTI for around the 420 p/m mark that would be a very good deal too.

hooch-85 · 17-12-2019 2:45pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Hey, anyone put a DTUK Tuning box on their MK7 GTi?

If so how has it worked out for you, if not then why did you remove it or go for another solution? (apart from a full remap).

I know a guy that had one on his GTi, he wouldn't recommend, spikey tunes and not very linear. A proper remap would be a much better way to go.

drunkmonkey · 17-12-2019 2:53pm

hooch-85 wrote: »

I know a guy that had one on his GTi, he wouldn't recommend, spikey tunes and not very linear. A proper remap would be a much better way to go.

Did he get them to tweak it?

Tenzor07 · 17-12-2019 3:25pm

I've heard about this box not being very kind to the Diesel 184 VW engines on Leon's, GTD's and vRS, so wonder if it's the same for the TSI engine...

hooch-85 · 17-12-2019 5:06pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Did he get them to tweak it?

This was around 5 years ago, i doubt he got them to tweak it.

drunkmonkey · 18-12-2019 11:00am

Any worthwhile mods before first tune on a GTI, Air Intake, Turbo inlet pipe, downpipe?
Still have to tell Santa what I want for Xmas.

dar83 · 18-12-2019 11:48am

Intake, Hosing, turbo elbow, muffler delete. That should run you around 7-800 quid for decent parts. Catback for sound if that's your thing too, as the GTI is (too) quiet as standard.

Downpipe is only needed if going stage 2 (or more)

drunkmonkey · 18-12-2019 12:13pm

I was thinking the intake and turbo inlet (racingline r600 intake and r600turbo inlet pipe or is there as cheaper option that gives the same thing?) , not really concerned about sound the more under the radar the better. Probably not a huge gain over a tune anyway, is it worth bothering or maybe just go direct to stage 2 with a downpipe?

hooch-85 · 18-12-2019 12:15pm

If it were me, i'd get the stage 1 tune as it is, it makes a massive difference to them. Enjoy that and if you feel the need for more go stage 2.

drunkmonkey · 18-12-2019 12:30pm

hooch-85 wrote: »

If it were me, i'd get the stage 1 tune as it is, it makes a massive difference to them. Enjoy that and if you feel the need for more go stage 2.

Test driving an R has me ruined I prefer the GTI though it just feels more refined...probably should be thinking of snow tyres in this weather though...

tossy · 18-12-2019 1:54pm

Revo do a lovely Carbon fibre intake, i have the gloss one but the do an even nicer Matt carbon one now that i'd love.

deceit · 18-12-2019 2:01pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Test driving an R has me ruined I prefer the GTI though it just feels more refined...probably should be thinking of snow tyres in this weather though...

I've a set of Michelin Crossclimite + for the winter, they are very good on snow/ice.

deceit · 18-12-2019 2:06pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I was thinking the intake and turbo inlet (racingline r600 intake and r600turbo inlet pipe or is there as cheaper option that gives the same thing?) , not really concerned about sound the more under the radar the better. Probably not a huge gain over a tune anyway, is it worth bothering or maybe just go direct to stage 2 with a downpipe?

I went with Racingline kit as it was the most stock looking and it helped that it was the only one that had TUV certification (tested to a high standard).

drunkmonkey · 18-12-2019 2:10pm

deceit wrote: »

I went with Racingline kit as it was the most stock looking and it helped that it was the only one that had TUV certification (tested to a high standard).

Anywhere in Ireland that sells them?

tossy · 18-12-2019 2:11pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Anywhere in Ireland that sells them?

Daltons sell both Revo and VWR.

hooch-85 · 18-12-2019 2:32pm

Dalton's supplied and fitted my VWR springs. Very efficient service and a quick turn around.

dar83 · 18-12-2019 2:52pm

tossy wrote: »

Daltons sell both Revo and VWR.

Racingline now fellas. No more VW even in the name. :P

tossy · 18-12-2019 2:53pm

dar83 wrote: »

Racingline now fellas. No more VW even in the name. :P

It will always bw VW .:R to me, i've a lovely VWR fleece i bought years ago that i now refuse to wear as i drive an R, i don't want to be one of those lads with the Subaru jackets

hooch-85 wrote: »

Dalton's supplied and fitted my VWR springs. Very efficient service and a quick turn around.

Everytime i'm there they try sell me stuff to make me go faster or stop quicker

hooch-85 · 18-12-2019 3:11pm

tossy wrote: »

It will always bw VW .:R to me, i've a lovely VWR fleece i bought years ago that i now refuse to wear as i drive an R, i don't want to be one of those lads with the Subaru jackets

Everytime i'm there they try sell me stuff to make me go faster or stop quicker

You're not big enough to be one of them lads:D

tossy · 18-12-2019 3:12pm

hooch-85 wrote: »

You're not big enough to be one of them lads:D

Thats the nicest thing you've ever said to me

deceit · 18-12-2019 4:28pm

tossy wrote: »

Daltons sell both Revo and VWR.

I didn't get mine from here (they didn't have it in stock before I left Ireland) but have had other work done by them and couldn't recommend them enough. I drive from Dublin to see them when getting work done rather than deal with anyone in Dublin.

George Dalton · 18-12-2019 9:34pm

hooch-85 wrote: »

If it were me, i'd get the stage 1 tune as it is, it makes a massive difference to them. Enjoy that and if you feel the need for more go stage 2.

I couldn't agree more with this. The Stage 1 tune is where you get the biggest bang for your buck. That's what I would do first off and then start adding hardware if you want.

noelf · 19-12-2019 5:00am

Euro ncap test of the mark 8 Golf the marks are better than the mark 7 but !!

https://youtu.be/Oz6H5xyjn4Q

SaintsYB · 19-12-2019 12:41pm

They've given it a 5 star rating yet the rear doors open on a side impact, am I missing something there?

drunkmonkey · 19-12-2019 1:03pm

It's probably better than turning into a chicken nugget in a tesla as you can't open the door.

hooch-85 · 19-12-2019 5:33pm

Anyone know anything about this dealer?

https://www.carsireland.ie/car-dealers/county/cork/ed's-car-sales/detail.php?ad_id=2429503&r=s.php%3F%26g%3D1

The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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