Joseph Duffy Discussion Thread May Contain Spoilers

Saipanne · 10-12-2016 7:37pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You must have missed his last interviw with Ariel Helwani so. Was very forward with what he wants, what is going on and what his plans are.

I missed it. Could you fill us in?

midnight city · 10-12-2016 7:47pm

He doesn't need to be extra witty or anything he should just start calling out other fighters saying he thinks he could beat them comfortably. He should even call out McGregor. Even though he wouldn't get that fight it may put his name in the headlines at least.

10-12-2016 8:52pm

midnight city wrote: »

He doesn't need to be extra witty or anything he should just start calling out other fighters saying he thinks he could beat them comfortably. He should even call out McGregor. Even though he wouldn't get that fight it may put his name in the headlines at least.

Exactly, the UFC is an entertainment business at the end of the day. You have too sell yourself and he doesn't seem to have any interest in doing any of the PR work (which is what brings in the money). If Joe wants to start making money he needs to start making smarter PR decisions. Yes his fight in Belfast wouldn't have done anything for him in the Rankings but he might have got a good few new Irish supporters and he could have smashed the tin can he was being offered in Belfast and then call a bigger guy out.

I mean come on, I know he is no Conor Mcgregor when it comes to selling himself but surely he learned something from watching McGoats rise to fame? SELL YOURSELF

Gamebred · 10-12-2016 8:57pm

Closed mouth dont get fed.

Django99 · 10-12-2016 9:26pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Exactly, the UFC is an entertainment business at the end of the day. You have too sell yourself and he doesn't seem to have any interest in doing any of the PR work (which is what brings in the money). If Joe wants to start making money he needs to start making smarter PR decisions. Yes his fight in Belfast wouldn't have done anything for him in the Rankings but he might have got a good few new Irish supporters and he could have smashed the tin can he was being offered in Belfast and then call a bigger guy out.

I mean come on, I know he is no Conor Mcgregor when it comes to selling himself but surely he learned something from watching McGoats rise to fame? SELL YOURSELF

I see your point, and agree with it somewhat, but it's not necessarily a requirement to be a loud mouth. The likes of GSP became famous in the merit of their fighting alone without really engaging in "trash talk".

If Joe had won against Poirier he would have shot up the rankings, and at that time he was still the last man to beat McGregor so the push would have been huge, and that's without calling out anyone.

I do agree though at this point he should start calling people out because the Poirier fight was a big anti climax for him. But it was a great fight and he bounced back with a win in 25 seconds.

If I was matchmaker I'd put him up against the likes of Lauzon or Sanchez now maybe even Miller. Someone who'll give him a war. Because the heart he showed in the Poirier fight was huge. If the UFC want to push him it should be as the humble character he is, yet with the warrior never say die attitude he showed against Poirier.

And who knows, if he improves TDD and his bottom game to compete with the top guys we could eventually have an all Irish title fight.

midnight city · 10-12-2016 9:38pm

I'm a bit perplexed as to why the UFC seem to have lost interest in him. He is talented and has been impressive in his fights.

Django99 · 10-12-2016 9:43pm

midnight city wrote: »

I'm a bit perplexed as to why the UFC seem to have lost interest in him. He is talented and has been impressive in his fights.

He's no longer the last man to beat McGregor has a lot to do with it I'd say.

Having said that, 3 first round finishes and a loss in an absolute war, he definitely has potential to be a fan favourite.

If, and it's a big if, he eventually gets a rematch against McGregor it could be huge. Modest and quiet against brash and loud. I'd say they were hoping he'd smash Poirier and get high up on the lightweight rankings.

Subcomandante Marcos · 11-12-2016 4:36am

midnight city wrote: »

I'm a bit perplexed as to why the UFC seem to have lost interest in him.

They haven't lost interest in him, they just know if they give him some nobody for his final fight he has no bargaining position in new contract negotiations so they will put off giving him a real fight until they have to.
He's 100% right to hold out because he's in a no win position.

Mellor · 11-12-2016 4:44am

Gamebred wrote: »

Yeah I know but seriously hope he has improved his grappling Poirier took him down at ease 2 fights ago and his next one was over very quick so we didnt get to see it.

Porrier is a decent jiu jitsu brown-belt and chains takedowns well. So shame getting taking down by him imo.
Porrier grappling was touted as the reason he'd beat McGregor.

Saipanne · 12-12-2016 3:20pm

http://www.the42.ie/joseph-duffy-interview-2016-3128955-Dec2016/

Depp · 12-12-2016 10:02pm

Saipanne wrote: »

http://www.the42.ie/joseph-duffy-interview-2016-3128955-Dec2016/

to be fair to duffy, fighting out his contract and going down the bellator route could be his best option, can see him doing well there, him v chandler would be an interesting fight actually

Django99 · 12-12-2016 11:08pm

Depp wrote: »

to be fair to duffy, fighting out his contract and going down the bellator route could be his best option, can see him doing well there, him v chandler would be an interesting fight actually

That would be a great fight I'd say, how much would you say he'd have to do to get a title shot in Bellator? Win a last UFC fight and then straight into it?

Subcomandante Marcos · 12-12-2016 11:16pm

Django99 wrote: »

That would be a great fight I'd say, how much would you say he'd have to do to get a title shot in Bellator? Win a last UFC fight and then straight into it?

3 or 4 wins in a row if he's asking for it and he'll get a title shot.

But those 3 or 4 wins would have to include one or two of Bendo, Josh Thompson, Anderson and Patricky Pitbull.

I reckon they'd give him a fight against one of their gate keepers to the top 5 and then start pairing against the likes of Thompson if he does well.

Depp · 12-12-2016 11:16pm

Django99 wrote: »

That would be a great fight I'd say, how much would you say he'd have to do to get a title shot in Bellator? Win a last UFC fight and then straight into it?

id say hed need a win or two in bellator to get it but you never know, can see them giving him a nice contract, with the right promotion hed be brilliant for bellator to tap into the huge irish fanbase thats after popping up recently

Depp · 12-12-2016 11:19pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

3 or 4 wins in a row if he's asking for it and he'll get a title shot.

But those 3 or 4 wins would have to include one or two of Bendo, Josh Thompson, Anderson and Patricky Pitbull.

I reckon they'd give him a fight against one of their gate keepers to the top 5 and then start pairing against the likes of Thompson if he does well.

maybe its the irish bias but i can see him doing well against those guys, think he'd be a great addition to the top end of the roster either way

Brussels Sprout · 14-12-2016 10:56pm

Story about him on the front page of MMAfighting.com right now

It appears as though Joseph Duffy's UFC hiatus is about to come to an end.

According to multiple sources, the popular Irishman has recently come to terms with the organization on his future. The agreement: Duffy will be able to fight out his contract and test the free-agent market next year, after all. He has not agreed to a new deal with the promotion.

Duffy, who currently has one fight left on his deal, is expected to make his return to the Octagon in early 2017. It's unclear at this time who he will be fighting and where.

link

BOHtox · 14-12-2016 11:52pm

He probably should have just fought the gurnik at Belfast while carrying out the tricolour and have another first round finish to his name.

Doubt he'll be fighting anyone half decent whenever he does eventually fight. There's a FN in england in March so he could well be on the main card for that.

At least if he fought at Belfast he could have drummed up a bit of Irish support and he'd be testing free agency already. He's a very good fighter and it's not beyond a possibility that if he stays in the UFC and gets a few wins to his name that he'd be given a red panty night of his own. McGregor Duffy II wouldn't be as big as Diaz II, obviously, but it would definitely sell big!

Saying that if he feels the contract in the UFC doesn't suit him then all the best to him in Bellator. There's some cracking matches over there for him too. I still think if I were him though I'd have taken the fight in Belfast.

CurryFlavoured · 15-12-2016 1:29am

It's a pity, I like Joe. Very good fighter who could've been top 15 material in the UFC.

I looked it up and see he's on a 20 + 20 contract. If he thinks the UFC want him to fight a low ranked guy and offer him a similar contract, I can see why he's pissed. But at the same time, he hasn't done a lot in the UFC yet in terms of beating high calibre guys, and he'll have to become a top contender in Bellator to earn as much or more. Generally speaking though, these guys get paid pennies.

Gamebred · 15-12-2016 1:53am

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

It's a pity, I like Joe. Very good fighter who could've been top 15 material in the UFC.

I looked it up and see he's on a 20 + 20 contract. If he thinks the UFC want him to fight a low ranked guy and offer him a similar contract, I can see why he's pissed. But at the same time, he hasn't done a lot in the UFC yet in terms of beating high calibre guys, and he'll have to become a top contender in Bellator to earn as much or more. Generally speaking though, these guys get paid pennies.

Can only beat whats in front of him, hes dispatched 3 of them by first round ko the other was a good war with Poirier, UFC has mismanaged him.

CurryFlavoured · 15-12-2016 2:24pm

Absolutely, I'm not siding with the UFC here. Just saying that although I think he's a top 15-20 guy he's only had one chance to prove that and fell short. He should 100% be getting paid more though, regardless.

MagicIRL · 16-12-2016 11:17am

Gamebred wrote: »

Can only beat whats in front of him, hes dispatched 3 of them by first round ko the other was a good war with Poirier, UFC has mismanaged him.

And that Porrier fight ended with Dustin caught in a triangle. Saved by the bell decision for Dustin, in my opinion.

TimRiggins · 16-12-2016 11:35am

He's fighting Reza Madadi in London to a source on twitter that i've never saw before. Awful fight for him if true. A lose lose situation. Win over Madadi does nothing for him. Him against someone like Michael Chiesa or Will Brooks cold have even co-mained the card.

Gamebred · 16-12-2016 12:31pm

Im happy hes on the card anyways looking forward to him ko'ing him.

eddie73 · 18-12-2016 3:15pm

I think he has to make a stand on wages. Not an ideal situation fighting for tiny purses for the tallent and sacrifice he puts in. Yes Pourier caught him but there is only one fighter undefeated in this sport let's not forget that. I think that if Duffy were matched against a top 15 contender in his next fight he would have made a name for himself. But he hasn't. The UFC are afraid of losing financial control of their fighters and therefore could be matching the likes of joe against smaller ones. Anyway, I hope he does really well at bellator. Duffy made a very honest point too about not being able to offer showmanship that the UFC seems to be more about now. This is a huge point. The sport is as much about press conferences now than anything else.

DrPhilG · 18-12-2016 4:44pm

It's not going to be any different over in Bellator though. They love a freak show hype machine even more than the UFC.

Wrongway1985 · 18-12-2016 6:23pm

eddie73 wrote: »

Yes Pourier caught him but there is only one fighter undefeated in this sport let's not forget that

Wha?

Brussels Sprout · 18-12-2016 6:32pm

eddie73 wrote: »

Yes Pourier caught him but there is only one fighter undefeated in this sport let's not forget that.

#NeverForget

eddie73 · 19-12-2016 2:17pm

Sorry I was talking lightweight.

Wrongway1985 · 19-12-2016 11:18pm

eddie73 wrote: »

Sorry I was talking lightweight.

Assume you're referring to Khabib, without doing any research Josh Emmet who fought the weekend is unbeaten for one.

JJayoo · 20-12-2016 3:59pm

I could imagine the fact that the UFCs biggest star,McG, doesn't like him also plays a part in how he's treated by the UFC

Django99 · 20-12-2016 7:41pm

JJayoo wrote: »

I could imagine the fact that the UFCs biggest star,McG, doesn't like him also plays a part in how he's treated by the UFC

Does he really not like him? I remember an interview where McGregor was taking the piss calling him Welsh Joe and Canadian Joe but I thought that was just the usual trash talk.

Mellor · 21-12-2016 7:57pm

JJayoo wrote: »

I could imagine the fact that the UFCs biggest star,McG, doesn't like him also plays a part in how he's treated by the UFC

I dont think McGregor has any ill will towards him. A bit of harmless slagging but when he spoke about one of his fights he gave a fairly honest and fair opinion of it.

thegamechanger · 29-12-2016 8:50pm

Any word on his comeback fight?

Gamebred · 29-12-2016 8:53pm

London in march

thegamechanger · 29-12-2016 8:56pm

Does he have an opponent?

Gamebred · 29-12-2016 8:58pm

Reza madadi, should be a handy fight for him hes levels ahead of him in striking terms anyways.

kumate_champ07 · 30-12-2016 12:04am

Mellor wrote: »

I dont think McGregor has any ill will towards him. A bit of harmless slagging but when he spoke about one of his fights he gave a fairly honest and fair opinion of it.

which fight? last I saw of him he really need to improve his wrestling/TD defense

Lukker- · 30-12-2016 3:57pm

Mellor wrote: »

I dont think McGregor has any ill will towards him. A bit of harmless slagging but when he spoke about one of his fights he gave a fairly honest and fair opinion of it.

Definitely not. They used to chat on twitter a bit after he beat McGregor and moved to boxing, it was always friendly. I think Conor rebutted him a bit when Joe said he'd step in to replace Aldo back when his nickname was "The last guy to beat McGregor" but it wasn't really a dig. Duffy seems to be a fan, from pics of training at Tristar he's often wearing the McGregor fight kit.

JJayoo · 30-12-2016 7:51pm

What about the video of McG saying the Joe is only trying to cash in on his fame by suddenly being 'Irish' and that he's more like Welsh and Canadian at this stage.

Gamebred · 30-12-2016 7:53pm

Didnt Duffy have an Irish tattoo on his back when he beat Conor? or Donegal one even.

Saipanne · 30-12-2016 8:17pm

JJayoo wrote: »

What about the video of McG saying the Joe is only trying to cash in on his fame by suddenly being 'Irish' and that he's more like Welsh and Canadian at this stage.

I take everything Mac says to the cameras as a bit of banter/trash talk. I dont treat it as gospel.

Depp · 30-12-2016 8:17pm

Gamebred wrote: »

Didnt Duffy have an Irish tattoo on his back when he beat Conor? or Donegal one even.

fairly sure its donegal written in irish!

CatFromHue · 30-12-2016 8:35pm

Depp wrote: »

fairly sure its donegal written in irish!

Yeah that's the one

Tommo3434343 · 08-01-2017 10:01pm

Joe's from Donegal. His family emigrated to Wales when he was 11 or 12 but he's always considered himself Irish. McGregor's just attacking him over training at camps outside Ireland in the UK and now Canada. Pretty similar to the way in which he criticised Dos Anjos for being Brazilian and training at an American camp. He calls them both disloyal. I'm sure he doesn't really believe that; I'd imagine it's just an attempt to trash talk and get under their skin. If he does believe that then its an idiotic point.

callaway92 · 09-01-2017 11:45pm

Joe doing a Q&A on Sherdog

ASOT · 19-01-2017 9:27am

Fighting Madadi at UFC London.

Lukker- · 19-01-2017 12:49pm

Both guys need a win but Duffy should have to much for him.

John_D80 · 19-01-2017 12:53pm

Lukker- wrote: »

Both guys need a win but Duffy should have to much for him.

Agreed.

He needs to make a statement here if he wants to be taken seriously at all when it comes to contract negotiations.

Mellor · 19-01-2017 1:04pm

He needs to bring out a handbag at weigh-ins hrow it at him, then hit him with a never before seen submission and dub it the handbag

Django99 · 19-01-2017 2:38pm

Yeah he needs to make a statement either in his performance or the build up to the fight, or even both. He should get a good bit of media time fight week, needs to use it to get his name out there even more.

Cant see him having too much trouble in the fight itself, should be better everywhere.

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