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Honda X-ADV

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    #32
    Claud 14.7 to 1
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Claud 14.7 to 1


    zubair wrote: »
    You're doing it wrong.

    What do you mean? I would not really be doing clutchless around town and you're going to have to use the clutch to stop anyway.

    Twist and go scooters are far more usable and comfortable for the dense city and traffic jams within the city etc. (slow speeds, less than 30/40 for example).


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    #33
    zubair
    Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    I was joking but I go clutchless bar 1-2, wherever I am..


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    #34
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Fireblade77 wrote: »
    I wonder is this the same colour,

    certainly looks like it: that's a fab looking bike.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #35
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    H_Lime wrote: »
    Very sweet machine, must blag a go of one off a dealer at some stage. If I had the monzo to buy one outright without it pinching the wallet I'd be tempted.

    Read what you wrote a couple times there and tbh it's just so alien a concept it seems a solution looking for a problem that ain't there.
    In saying that, if I were to ride it that last sentence might be moot. You don't seem prone to confirmation bias based on other bikes not meeting your requirements. Lot of lads swear by whatever bike they currently own.... because they currently own it.

    Yeah I'd have to try one to see as at the mo I just don't get it but I accept that may just be because I haven't tried it.

    Is there additional specialist servicing for the clutch and associated works? Do the dct give grief and is software an issue with them? I suppose its these issues which scare me.
    What's the wind protection like? Are you sat on or in it?
    Frontal area looks similar to my old ktm 990 adventure which didn't compare to the old bus for protection.

    I don't think getting a test ride should be difficult these days.

    I used to be biased : but I'm cured now 😉

    Don't get me wrong - I've kept & love my H-D. I also have a (very long time broken....) Aprilia Atlantic 500, not long ago sold my Vespa PX/GasGas Pampera 250 and my GasGas trials bikes too. Kept my RGV though. Spent 20 years riding BeeEmms.

    A wide pallette you might say.

    The AT isn't perfect : I've lowered it 30mm at the rear/12mm at the front, changed the awful seat. Chain drive is a throwback to me, so added an oiler. Would like to change the bars : back a bit but more specifically the angle. Compared to the H-D it's torque less, but I bought it specifically for the DCT and all the above are small things.

    Actually a GoldWing bagger with DCT sounds ideal for me tbh....

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Q2RvLXMc9dACuqkE7

    Nothing special on the clutch yet, but the DCT has a big sump - uses the oil to drive the clutch actuator.

    Wind protection? Compared to my H-D it's like a Rolls Royce.... ...but I kinda sit "in" it, which I like.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #36
    H_Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    galwaytt wrote: »
    The AT isn't perfect : I've lowered it 30mm at the rear/12mm at the front, changed the awful seat. Chain drive is a throwback to me, so added an oiler. Would like to change the bars : back a bit but more specifically the angle. Compared to the H-D it's torque less, but I bought it specifically for the DCT and all the above are small things.

    Actually a GoldWing bagger with DCT sounds ideal for me tbh....

    https://images.app.goo.gl/Q2RvLXMc9dACuqkE7

    Nothing special on the clutch yet, but the DCT has a big sump - uses the oil to drive the clutch actuator.

    Wind protection? Compared to my H-D it's like a Rolls Royce.... ...but I kinda sit "in" it, which I like.
    Reading about them there last night, a few niggles exist for sure (it's made by humans after all) but deffo seems solid. What I don't get is the surprisingly low power output for the class! I expected say 110 to 115 min rwhp but real world 85 to 90 on dynos seems mean. Not directly comparable but my old gal is 20kg lighter and 20 horse up on her, on road that would be felt. Is she breathless when getting on with other raod bikes?
    I suppose its more off road centric than the tall rounders from doocati and ktm etc? Do you use her offroad? Myself I couldn't use it on anything other than hard pack, my Dr750 at 180kg is a scary proposition on loose stuff* nevermind a 235kg tall expensive lass like that.

    *Im very average offroad:pac:


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    #37
    Fireblade77
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    Look bikes are gone like the car world , i.e. SUV 's but its a look that's in , X-adv is not for off road use , just the pot holes and bad roads are more manageable .


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    #38
    Banzai600
    Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Banzai600


    H_Lime wrote: »
    Reading about them there last night, a few niggles exist for sure (it's made by humans after all) but deffo seems solid. What I don't get is the surprisingly low power output for the class! I expected say 110 to 115 min rwhp but real world 85 to 90 on dynos seems mean. Not directly comparable but my old gal is 20kg lighter and 20 horse up on her, on road that would be felt. Is she breathless when getting on with other raod bikes?
    I suppose its more off road centric than the tall rounders from doocati and ktm etc? Do you use her offroad? Myself I couldn't use it on anything other than hard pack, my Dr750 at 180kg is a scary proposition on loose stuff* nevermind a 235kg tall expensive lass like that.

    *Im very average offroad:pac:


    Re the Africa Twin, ive ridden the revised 2018/2019 model for a few days on / proper off road, and there is nothing breathless about them. ive thrown one into a ditch off road , over a tree, into a boulder, they are ***ling unbreakable. A very robust bike.


    The DCT is slick, im well used to high powered bikes and the AT with DCT doesnt hang about, plenty of oomph, trust me.


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    #39
    H_Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Banzai600 wrote: »
    Re the Africa Twin, ive ridden the revised 2018/2019 model for a few days on / proper off road, and there is nothing breathless about them. ive thrown one into a ditch off road , over a tree, into a boulder, they are ***ling unbreakable. A very robust bike.


    The DCT is slick, im well used to high powered bikes and the AT with DCT doesnt hang about, plenty of oomph, trust me.

    Would love to try one, purely for the dct as Im curious about it feels. Fair dues using one in anger off road, in short I couldn't and if I could I wouldn't as its simply too much cash to risk faking it off the ground. That's just me tho:o


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    #40
    Banzai600
    Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Banzai600


    its very precise / smooth for gear changing. Using the manual mode is great, flappy paddle on the bars. You can bang it down into corners no breaking and having it wiggle about. its just fun fun all the way. take a very small bit of getting used to, but once you do, the DCT off road is some craic and you cant stall it, unless it falls over or you fall off.


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    #41
    Fireblade77
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    I have to laugh , they talk about the adv750 in the UK and say its too expensive.
    So at nearly 13k here in ireland , I will be like trying to spot a unicorn.


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    #42
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Fireblade77 wrote: »
    I have to laugh , they talk about the adv750 in the UK and say its too expensive.
    So at nearly 13k here in ireland , I will be like trying to spot a unicorn.

    expensive, yes, but 'too expensive'.........compared to what though ? It's a high quality modern 'bike with lots of very advanced tech, and sells in low numbers.

    Some people think that just because it's a 'scooter' that it somehow should be less than a 'proper' motorbike - in reality the tech in that way above a lot of ordinary bikes.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #43
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Even still.....13K :eek:


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    #44
    Fireblade77
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    galwaytt wrote: »
    expensive, yes, but 'too expensive'.........compared to what though ? It's a high quality modern 'bike with lots of very advanced tech, and sells in low numbers.

    Some people think that just because it's a 'scooter' that it somehow should be less than a 'proper' motorbike - in reality the tech in that way above a lot of ordinary bikes.

    Ya , I totally agree with you, so much so I bought one. I haven't got it yet but will have it in a few weeks, always one to try new technology .


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    #45
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    MojoMaker wrote: »
    Even still.....13K :eek:

    Pick any other bike at that level and it's probably in/around that. My Africa Twin was... €15.5k iirc.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #46
    Fireblade77
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    what I was trying to say earlier was the uk price is quite a bit less expensive than here , with a deal there the price there is 10k euro . So it is 25% more expensive here because no deals to be had ,then add taxes like vrt. ends up expensive in Ireland.


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    #47
    Banzai600
    Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Banzai600


    Fireblade77 wrote: »
    Ya , I totally agree with you, so much so I bought one. I haven't got it yet but will have it in a few weeks, always one to try new technology .


    interested to hear how you get on with it. Wear well.


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    #48
    Fireblade77
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    I'll let you know.


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