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Maritime News Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭murphym7


    Interesting interview with Matt Cooper now with a crew member of a cruise ship who spent a few weeks in quarantine on his cruise ship off the US coast. He's from Waterford.

    The passengers had already been unloaded but the 2000 crew seems to have been badly caught. 26 days in full lockdown and 3 more weeks of some restrictions.

    Edit. Peter Smith. A very cheerful man but that must have been a very stressful experience.

    I missed that one. I have been dipping in and out of a crew members Vlog on YouTube from a Royal Caribbean ship, the guy is called Riley Tench. Its very interesting and awful, these guys have essentially lost their jobs and are being kept on these ships until the company gets them off in bits a pieces here and there. The guy is fairly chearful but I know I would be freaking out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,154 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Worlds largest container ship arrives in UK...
    The world's biggest container ship, around the same size as four football pitches, has arrived in the UK for the first time.

    HMM Algeciras is so large its arrival had to be modelled on a simulator to ensure it could be carried out safely.

    The 1,312ft (400m) long and 200ft (61m) wide ship is delivering a variety of goods at DP World London Gateway in Thurrock.

    Its journey to the UK began in China and it has also been to South Korea, the Netherlands, Germany and Belgium.

    Preparations started more than six months ago, with the Port of London Authority carrying out simulator modelling.
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    https://news.sky.com/story/hmm-algeciras-worlds-largest-container-ship-arrives-in-uk-for-first-time-12006469



    Rather interesting amount of them built and being build...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_container_ships


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The Stellar Banner wreck has been scuttled off Brazil.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    ^^^ jesus she went down quickly!!


    ...meanwhile we are gonna spend how many millions to salvage/scrap a ship a fraction of her size that washed up on our shores...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    What fun and how glamorous it must be to travel by ferry these days!

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    Stena's mandatory use of facemasks for all passengers.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Tabnabs wrote: »

    Stena's mandatory use of facemasks for all passengers.

    probably a stupid question, but how's he gonna eat that meal? and would that not defeat the purpose of wearing the mask?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭Odelay


    probably a stupid question, but how's he gonna eat that meal? and would that not defeat the purpose of wearing the mask?

    He’s probably going to spend 10% of the trip eating. For the other 90% he won’t be eating. What reasonable measures should they take?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Cap Pinede Bunker tanker directly hits breakwater with high speed at Port of Marseille.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Jesus that voice is annoying! Is it a computer reading text or something?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Jesus that voice is annoying! Is it a computer reading text or something?

    So annoying.

    I don't get accidents like that, how likely is it that your engines are stuck on full power AND you can't steer. They must have know a long time before they hit the harbour, and couldn't do anything?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,149 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    beauf wrote: »
    So annoying.

    I don't get accidents like that, how likely is it that your engines are stuck on full power AND you can't steer. They must have know a long time before they hit the harbour, and couldn't do anything?

    they were in full reverse. if they were on full ahead they would not have stopped so quickly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    It was going a fair speed when it hit. Took a while to build that up. No?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,149 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    beauf wrote: »
    It was going a fair speed when it hit. Took a while to build that up. No?

    the voiceover says they were in full reverse. there is nothing to suggest they were stuck on full speed


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Nasty collision in Canada in a narrow ship canal.



    The suspected cause is bank effect, which takes a great deal of experience to predict in advance, to counteract the forces before its too late.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,036 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Nasty collision in Canada in a narrow ship canal.



    The suspected cause is bank effect, which takes a great deal of experience to predict in advance, to counteract the forces before its too late.

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    Id say the insurers will have fun with that one


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Moar power.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    There's something about RN submariners that makes them really bad at doing their job.
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    The Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) has released its report into the near collision of Stena Superfast VII and a Royal Navy submarine.

    A statement from the Chief Inspector of Marine Accidents calls the incident a “matter of serious concern”, as it was the third accident or incident between a dived Royal Navy submarine and a surface vessel in four years.

    The report says the vessels came within 50-100m of one another in the North Channel, as the submarine underestimated the ferry’s speed.

    The Stena Superfast VII ferry, travelling from Belfast to Cairnryan, spotted the periscope and turned to avoid a collision.

    It happened in November 2018 with 215 passengers and 67 crew on board the ferry.

    The Royal Navy submarine, based in Faslane, had been patrolling an area south of the ferry route.

    The investigation found the near miss happened because the submarine’s control room team had underestimated the ferry’s speed and overestimated its range, resulting in an unsafe situation developing, says the report. However, the submarine’s control room electronic tactical display presented a picture of a safer situation than reality; this meant that safety-critical decisions made on board the submarine may have appeared rational at the time.

    When the submarine’s control room team initially detected the ferry visually, they estimated it to be at a range of 9,000-10,000 yards.

    At a speed of 21 knots, Stena Superfast VII would cover 6,000 yards in eight minutes and 34 seconds, which was an estimate of the time available for the submarine’s officer of the watch (OOW) to take avoiding action.

    However, the report found the OOW had estimated the ferry’s speed as 15 knots, so would have “incorrectly calculated” it would take the ferry 12 minutes to travel 6,000 yards and “almost certainly assessed that there was significantly more time to take avoiding action than was actually the case”.

    A number of key safety issues were identified in the report such as passage planning and identifying potential hazards.

    “The Royal Navy co-operated with the MAIB’s investigation into this near miss and has taken a series of actions, intended to prevent recurrence, in response to this, and the other similar incidents. However, I have today recommended that the Royal Navy undertakes an independent review of the actions that have been taken, in order to ensure that the risk of similar collisions has been reduced to as low as possible,” says the chief inspector.
    https://marineindustrynews.co.uk/significant-concerns-as-nuclear-sub-and-ferry-nearly-collide/


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    I was just reading that, the ferry's watch did a fine job spotting the periscope in time to take avoiding action.

    It is hard to believe the story that it was no more than a miscalculation, why did they attempt to closely time the approach at all rather than moving out of the way or diving to a safe depth immediately on spotting the approaching ship? Intentionally using close proximity to commercial shipping for training purposes would be my guess.
    Tabnabs wrote: »
    There's something about RN submariners that makes them really bad at doing their job.

    Arrogance, complacency and the surely held belief that they will be protected from any consequences as they have been in the past.

    I suppose playing chicken with ferries makes a change from them sinking trawlers. Although to be fair our government in the 80s made it very clear (to the RN, not the Irish public) that official Ireland didn't give a fukk about Irish fishermen's lives or property so Irish trawlers were squarely in the "acceptable losses" column.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 959 ✭✭✭Conchir


    No idea of the sea state at the time or any of the other details, but the fact the ferry crew spotted the periscope is surely very impressive seamanship on their part.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    So this happened;

    https://afloat.ie/port-news/fishing/item/47104-donegal-trawler-ordered-to-move-on-by-royal-navy-frigate
    Underway is an investigation following an incident between a UK Royal Navy warship and a Killybegs-registered trawler off the Donegal coast.

    An Air Corps maritime patrol aircraft was dispatched and two Irish Naval Service ships placed on standby after the skipper of the Killybegs-based fishing vessel, the Marliona, reported that a UK frigate ordered him to leave the area where he was fishing 60 miles off the Irish coast.

    It is understood that HMS Lancaster hailed the fishing vessel on Tuesday morning, informing the skipper they were commencing a joint operation with a submarine which would continue over the next three days.

    A maritime aircraft was sent to monitor the area where the UK warship was operating and two Irish naval vessels were redeployed.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,149 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    It should be noted the USSR (ruskies) use this area too.:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,873 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Sad to hear about the collapse of the Cruise Line CMV no doubt there will be more in this crazy situation we find ourselves in.

    https://afloat.ie/port-news/cruise-liners/item/47031-british-cruise-line-collapses-due-to-seismic-proportions-of-pandemic


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Pity, were a regular operator out of Cork.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The Orient Queen cruise ship capsized overnight in Beirut, taking on water at her berth following a deadly blast in Lebanon on Tuesday evening.

    The explosion also claimed the head office of the ship's operator, Abou Merhi Cruises, as well as the entire Abou Merhi Group.

    Two crew are reported dead while seven are listed in critical condition.

    orient_queen1.jpg

    https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23337-orient-queen-sinks-in-beirut-two-crew-reported-dead.html

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    (ex Vistamar)


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,154 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Was posted on another thread but a rather interesting history of how the ammonium nitrate came to Beirut.

    https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2014/4194/crew-kept-hostages-floating-bomb-mv-rhosus-beirut/


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