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Boxing Thread 04/12 (Spence v Garcia, Saunders v Murray, Yarde v Arthur)

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    #32
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,935 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    Interesting comments from hearne saying the problem with Saunders is that he is never in shape at short notice. He asked him not to put too much weight on over Christmas.
    Basically I take it as meaning Smith got the Canelo fight because Saunders wasn't prepared.

    He definitely didn't look in condition tonight anyway.


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    #33
    NewMan1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Interesting comments from hearne saying the problem with Saunders is that he is never in shape at short notice. He asked him not to put too much weight on over Christmas.
    Basically I take it as meaning Smith got the Canelo fight because Saunders wasn't prepared.

    He definitely didn't look in condition tonight anyway.

    You could also argue his promoter should be able to get the fights done with proper notice.

    It sounds like BJS needs to know who and when his next opponent is while walking out of the ring to stay focused too though.


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    #34
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,935 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    NewMan1982 wrote: »
    You could also argue his promoter should be able to get the fights done with proper notice.

    It sounds like BJS needs to know who and when his next opponent is while walking out of the ring to stay focused too though.

    Billy Joe is going to pay for not being professional outside the ring. If only he had Chris Eubank Jr's dedication to fitness (or vice versa, CJ had his ability) you'd possibly have a great boxer. Sadly at this stage it just won't happen for either of them.


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    #35
    Ajsmiles
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    Murray was so unlucky vs sturm, Martinez . Plenty poorer fighters won world titles. Much respect


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    #36
    Morrison J
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    Yarde v Arthur about to start now. Surprised by the lack of interest tbh. Should be a good fight.


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    #37
    earthwormjack
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    Cagey opener in the yarde fight. Arthur probably landing the better jabs to sneak it.


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    #38
    Morrison J
    Registered Users Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Arthur's jab is legit world class


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    #39
    Alfred Borden
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    Arthur schooling Yarde at the moment. Tame enough affair however.


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    #40
    Morrison J
    Registered Users Posts: 3,852 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    There was a rumour that Arthur hurt his right hand in the warm up. Think he's thrown it twice. Lucky his jab is so good but you'd think eventually Yarde realises this and ups the pressure. Whether he has the gas tank to do it is the other thing.


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    #41
    walshb
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    Morrison J wrote: »
    There was a rumour that Arthur hurt his right hand in the warm up. Think he's thrown it twice. Lucky his jab is so good but you'd think eventually Yarde realises this and ups the pressure. Whether he has the gas tank to do it is the other thing.

    Yeh.

    Was thinking he has only been jabbing and moving backwards mostly..


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    #42
    titan18
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    This fight has been poor enough do far


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    #43
    walshb
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    titan18 wrote: »
    This fight has been poor enough do far

    A jab fest..


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    #44
    titan18
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    walshb wrote: »
    A jab fest..

    I'd say a feint fest myself


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    #45
    walshb
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    Yarde spending too much time trying to counter a lad that is moving backwards and feinting.. makes no sense..


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    #46
    titan18
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    Lots of those rounds too close to call as feck all happened. I think Arthur fought his best fight that he could whereas Yarde didn't do enough


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    #47
    eagle eye
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    Well deserved win for Arthur. The judge that came up with that score to Yarde should never be let near a boxing ring again.
    I thought it was a clear two round win for Arthur personally.
    I wouldn't be complaining too much if he'd lost it by a round though.


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    #48
    walshb
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Well deserved win for Arthur. The judge that came up with that score to Yarde should never be let near a boxing ring again.
    I thought it was a clear two round win for Arthur personally.
    I wouldn't be complaining too much if he'd lost it by a round though.

    Here we go again...

    Loads very close difficult rds to score...


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    #49
    titan18
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    walshb wrote: »
    Here we go again...

    Loads very close difficult rds to score...

    Ya, lot of rounds were very 50/50 to me. I don't think round 1 had a punch landed so that could easily have gone to either fight depending on what the judge prefers.

    To me that fight was probably 55/45 to Arthur but could easily have swung the other way.


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    #50
    Rolling Stone
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Well deserved win for Arthur. The judge that came up with that score to Yarde should never be let near a boxing ring again.
    I thought it was a clear two round win for Arthur personally.
    I wouldn't be complaining too much if he'd lost it by a round though.

    Agreed. The scores some of these judges come up with are simply mind boggling. How he can say 117-111 Yarde is just crazy. You would expect three so called experts to come up with scores that are somewhat close to each other. It's as if he was watching a different fight to the two other judges.


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    #51
    MD1990
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    terrible fight.
    Yarde lost to someone who wouldnt throw a right hand.


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    #52
    walshb
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    Rolling Stone wrote: »
    Agreed. The scores some of these judges come up with are simply mind boggling. How he can say 117-111 Yarde is just crazy. You would expect three so called experts to come up with scores that are somewhat close to each other. It's as if he was watching a different fight to the two other judges.

    That’s a nonsense..

    Judged loads amateur fights with 30-27 either way that can be easily justified

    It’s a human endeavour. With close rds these wide scores can be justified..

    Not sure why people can’t grasp this simplicity.


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    #53
    Morrison J
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    Had it 114-114 myself. Yarde needed to put the same pressure he put on in the 12th for the four or five previous. That Tunde Ajayi he has in his corner is a total spoofer and should've been sacked after the Kovalev fight.


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    #54
    walshb
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    Discussing Dubois now with their new medical evidence..

    Changes nothing. He quit...simple. No real shame. He’s human.


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    #55
    PEACEBROTHER
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    I'm actually shocked at how poor yarde was

    Bar 12th round didn't really go for the win


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    #56
    Rolling Stone
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    walshb wrote: »
    That’s a nonsense..

    Judged loads amateur fights with 30-27 either way that can be easily justified

    It’s a human endeavour. With close rds these wide scores can be justified..

    Not sure why people can’t grasp this simplicity.

    Human endeavour ... of course it couldn't be down to a bad judge as we all know there are none of those in boxing :rolleyes:


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    #57
    eagle eye
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    walshb wrote:
    Loads very close difficult rds to score...
    No matter what way you looked at it there was five clear rounds to Arthur, as such I said I wouldn't be consuming too much if he lost by a point even though if disagree.


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    #58
    squinn2912
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    Terrible fight to watch. How Yarde let Arthur dictate terms like that with only the jab is beyond me. Arthur has very ordinary defence too. I wondered what the Kovalev fight took out of Yarde and that’s the answer


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    #59
    simongurnick
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    Ref could have stopped that earlier. Quick win from fondura here, then on to the main.


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    #60
    simongurnick
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    That dude is a freak, with all due respect. 6 ft 6 and 154 lbs?? Wow


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    #61
    Morrison J
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    Good win from Spence. About what you'd expect. Went a bit Oscar v Tito taking his foot off the gas late on but result never felt in doubt. Danny Garcia game as ever.

    Hopefully we see more momentum behind making Spence v Crawford now. Best fight in boxing bar none.


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