Fiat Chrysler and Peugeot to merge

road_high wrote: »

I love the new 500e- anyone a price in Ireland? One of the most desirable cars I’ve seen in a long time, very contemporary and classless

Starting £20k in the UK for "Action" trim which looks fairly barren : https://www.fiat.co.uk/500-electric

Passion trim £23495
Icon £24995
La Prima (First Edition?) £26995

L1011 wrote: »

La Prima was rumored to be 38k here, but I don't know if that was pre- or post-rebates/grants. Those UK prices are after grant; so basically 30k sterling for which 38k euro makes sense.

Yes I read the La Prima was £30k which I was a bit taken aback by- granted it looks like a fantastic premium product. Interested to see what the lower to mid specs will start off at. Getting someone to spend that kind of money on a small Fiat will be a tall order I think

LIGHTNING wrote: »

+1

Just look at the GR Yaris thread and the amount of people saying "OMG its a 30k Yaris" :rolleyes:

I dont spend much time here anymore - but only 30k for a GR Yaris ! from what I read thats an absolute bargain !

colm_mcm wrote: »

It’s a €50k Yaris though

now that makes sense !

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Thanks for proving RobAMerc point, right on time too

Wrong, biggly. I have no problem with Fiat build quality or reliability. I do, however think that the 500 is very much a woman's car. I certainly wouldn't drive one.

Doesn't change my opinion. Most of them I see are driven by women.

I see the mods are hunting in packs now.

Jayzus, a live one! :pac:

I'd say you really lose the head every time the alfa won't start.

SmartinMartin wrote: »

Wrong, biggly. I have no problem with Fiat build quality or reliability. I do, however think that the 500 is very much a woman's car. I certainly wouldn't drive one.

I wouldn’t either but that’s only because of my masculine insecurities and also the type of mixed driving I do which wouldn’t suit a 500. The new electric one is still a super little car, read all about in depth in Top Gear mag a few months ago. This is a premium quality product- if the price can be made more attractive and stick in a petrol/hybrid option it can be one of Europe’s best selling cars again

ba_barabus wrote: »

My Alfa always started and never gave any unexpected issue, as does my Avensis

I used to get a 500 when the Alfa was bring serviced, I bloody well loved driving them.

Wasn't slagging alfas at all, just having a dig at some lamp on a high horse. I see he's deleted his posts now.

Are you saying I'm not allowed express my opinion on a car, on a car forum? It's not funny, it's not a stereotype, I formed my opinion based on my observation that most of the cars I see are driven by women. I have never posted this in another thread. Is that OK with you, beauf?

SmartinMartin wrote: »

Are you saying I'm not allowed express my opinion on a car, on a car forum? It's not funny, it's not a stereotype, I formed my opinion based on my observation that most of the cars I see are driven by women. I have never posted this in another thread. Is that OK with you, beauf?

We are talking about the new 500e here not the old/current one. The difference and upgrade is night and day and really isn’t worthy of dismissive derision

I certainly didn't dismiss it. Only time will tell, but I'd hazard a guess that the majority of them will be bought by women, as with the current model.

RobAMerc wrote: »

Jesus - I must be a right bird so, I had a 500 and I have an MX5 ( another hairdressers car despite me having more hair on me nuts than my head ! ). But it does prove a point, I have nuts, so I dont need my car to prove I'm a man !

You may well be, I don't know. So I have no nuts because I observe that a particular car is mostly driven by women? You use a woman's logic, that's for sure.

Anyway back to this merger.
They say they have significant spare factory capacity and will look to cut costs.

Going to be very messy and political in deciding which factories get shut down.
French, German, UK & Italian governments/unions will want to keep their factories/jobs.