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Limerick GAA Discussion Part 2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    Gillane has an ankle injury it's been bothering him for a while but my guess is he,ll be fine. Casey had his appendix removed as far as I'm aware I know there's reports saying he's a shoulder injury and maybe that's true as well but it looks like he won't make the tipp match he's a big loss but we do have options apparently pat Ryan is burning it up in training and could be close


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Walter.White


    lim4ev wrote: »
    Gillane has an ankle injury it's been bothering him for a while but my guess is he,ll be fine. Casey had his appendix removed as far as I'm aware I know there's reports saying he's a shoulder injury and maybe that's true as well but it looks like he won't make the tipp match he's a big loss but we do have options apparently pat Ryan is burning it up in training and could be close

    Gillane started today for Patrickswell so looks you're right. He should be fine , hopefully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Gillane has been palying non stop all winter, he's currently our most potent forward, foot should off the ground for the next 2 weeks to get a bit of recovery (I'm not exactly medically qualified to make that decision though)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Would like to see Greame Mulcahy given a chance in absence of Casey. He deserves a shot under a decent coach and form is very good for club and when given a few minutes against tipp, he's a natural like Casey and gillane


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    Would like to see Greame Mulcahy given a chance in absence of Casey. He deserves a shot under a decent coach and form is very good for club and when given a few minutes against tipp, he's a natural like Casey and gillane

    I'd agree re gilane resting his foot paddy not sure I'd agree re mulcahy I know you make the point that we,re under better coaches I also believe he's down the mgt pecking order,it looks like p casey is out so I think our ff line will be dowling flanagan gillane and our hf line something like hego hayes and Dempsey considering the options here I just don't know why they didn't try hego and Hayes in hb line though I think Hayes is better off in hf line for moment anyway. Like I've left out morrissey nash o Donovan downes from what I've seen so far I think they could play hego at 9 and play o Donovan at 11 with Hayes and Dempsey on the wings


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    We have Myriad options alright and Kiely is going to build to next year which is against mul, but would think he deserves a shot on form


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Walter.White


    I'm really looking forward to the match Sunday and I hope we play to our potential. If we can improve our shooting accuracy from the league we should be in with a great chance. What do people think the lineup will be ?

    I can't see our keeper or defence being changed from the league as Kiely was fairly consistent with the backline. So I think it will be Quaid Finn Hickey English Byrnes Morrissey Hannon. Cian lynch will start midfield but I'm not sure who will partner him. Browne will probably start there. I would like to see Darragh O Donovan there but he missed alot of the league through injury.

    Hegarty and Hayes will start in the half forward line probably partnered by Tom Morrissey. David Dempsey performed very well for Na Piarsiagh and could also slot in there but I think Kiely will go with that half forward line. The full forward line is probably the hardest to predict but I think Kiely will go with Gillane, Flanagan and one of Mulcahy/Downes/Dowling. Peter Casey would have been nailed on for me but he misses out through injury. Its crazy to think that we could potentially line up without a Na Piarsiagh player starting.

    The panel will come into play more so this year with the changed format. M, Casey, D, Dempsey, C,Ryan, W, O'Donoghue, Dowling, R, McCarthy, Downes and Nash all being players who could start in some of the upcoming matches. Hopefully our strong panel will see us qualify for the final in what will be a very competitive Munster Championship !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Gillane should not be risked if not 100%. We have a week off and then Cork, other than that he will go with the team he picked predominately throughout the league.

    We can beat tipp but not with old failings of keeping them in the game but not taking chances (Flanagan needs to lash first chance over the bar) and giving up soft goals (full back will be tested massively sunday)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Hegarty and Hayes will start in the half forward line probably partnered by Tom Morrissey. David Dempsey performed very well for Na Piarsiagh and could also slot in there but I think Kiely will go with that half forward line. The full forward line is probably the hardest to predict but I think Kiely will go with Gillane, Flanagan and one of Mulcahy/Downes/Dowling. Peter Casey would have been nailed on for me but he misses out through injury. Its crazy to think that we could potentially line up without a Na Piarsiagh player starting

    Amazingly, Galway footballers lined out last Sunday without a single Corofin player in the starting 15, a brilliant team that won the A.I. club football 2 months ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    I think its clear from Kiely interview that he is going to build to this year, which means he probably won't start a team I want to see, but he knows best at this stage

    We can win this from the bench


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  • Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭pajoguy


    Getting out of Munster will be an achievement in itself. After that a quarter final or even semi would make it a good year considering promotion. Roll on Sunday. If we could just halve the wide count from the last few league games that would be 6 or 7 points extra in a game. And all our games seem to be tight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Team as expected 2 backs in the forwards won't work. Disappointed but can still win off the bench


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    Team as expected 2 backs in the forwards won't work. Disappointed but can still win off the bench

    I've totally come around to hegarty at half forward I think he was out of all proportion improved in the league. Half forward suits Hayes now too. Those two give us a platform at half forward. They also provide a lot of cover to the half back line, which needs it I think, form not great there.

    I would have hoped to see a bit more cutting edge in the other four forwards, but that's probably the best we have apart from Dowling. Casey loss, Gillane the most free scoring of what's left there. No downes or Nash in the subs is a disappointment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Hegarty maybe but not hayes. We wouldn't need to bolster our back line if we just picked the right half backs. He's gone for work rate hence no Nash. It's there for us if we can grab it. Let's see how it goes tomorrow


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Walter.White


    Hegarty maybe but not hayes. We wouldn't need to bolster our back line if we just picked the right half backs. He's gone for work rate hence no Nash. It's there for us if we can grab it. Let's see how it goes tomorrow

    I think Nash is carrying a knock, his not on the bench.


  • Registered Users Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Cheese Wagstaff


    Footballers lost to Clare but the real talking point is Billy Lee and his dealings with the County Board this week which he discussed in his post match interview:

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0519/964704-treaty-boss-reveals-he-considered-forfeiting-clare-game/

    It's grim really. The likes of Kilkenny have been pilloried over the years for not doing anything regarding football, but the reality is that in this regard we are no better (And at least Kilkenny have had rampant success to somewhat justify their method of approach).

    Bottom line is that this sort of muckology should not be happening. Sadly though it's just the tip of the iceberg in this county.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Kiely has created a problem here for himself with hickey.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Well doesn't get any easier to analyse matches than that

    Tipp were gash, and we kept them in it.

    Hickey never again we have 4 better options

    Hayes is not a centre forward, at least 4 better options

    Morrisseys made errors for both goals would retain tom

    One of dowling/downes/Dempsey/Nash etc to start at half forward

    Gillane and mulcahy excellent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Thought that was a very assured performance in ways. Never panicked and stuck to the game plan of trying to lay off a ball to a man in a better position even when the goals went in which were against the run of play.

    Thought Declan Hannon put in a good performance. Midfield got on a lot of ball. Plenty room for improvement

    That's a big step towards qualification for the next phase


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Definitely a different look about us this year. Size, fitness, astute tactics, not afraid to win. May as well hand over Liam now :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Definitely a different look about us this year. Size, fitness, astute tactics, not afraid to win. May as well hand over Liam now :pac:

    Stop that talk!


  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭LMK


    Good enough for today. Lots of endeavor by everyone. Scope for improvement in all lines really, Full-back line especially but that may because of lack if cover from outside too. Gillane played well but free-taking will have to improve on todays performance, I thought the subs all contributed positively.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 Hockied


    Well doesn't get any easier to analyse matches than that

    Tipp were gash, and we kept them in it.

    Hickey never again we have 4 better options

    Hayes is not a centre forward, at least 4 better options

    Morrisseys made errors for both goals would retain tom

    One of dowling/downes/Dempsey/Nash etc to start at half forward

    Gillane and mulcahy excellent

    Nash wasnt even on panel. Agree with all of that. I watched dan morrisey carefully and what i learned is that our management have a lot to answer to. Any number of lads are better yet he and brother guaranteed place. Hickey a spent force for years. Saying all this again and again and no point in not saying it straight. Lets celebrate beating a brutal tipp team. Tipp totally under performed. Management have missed a chance to have a possible all ireland winning team by playing Morrissey, Hickey and Hegarty regardless of performance while better players can't make panel. We could have a full back nicely blooded in past two years but now what have we? Missed opportunities and all to keep the usual people happy. Lucky to get win. Hope a full back emerges and they start playing players for reasons other than who their daddy is. Then we can have a chance to win an all ireland. Not far off capable of taking a Munster though, looking at other teams. Maybe that will do limerick supporters ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Colemania


    Tom morrissey much improved compared to previous years. I agree hickey and Dan morrissey shouldn't be starting but hegarty is very useful and needs to be utilised, be it half forward or half back


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Annoyed by the idea that the morrisseys might be getting the nod on influence

    The na p tweet wasn't helpful either

    Hopefully this team can break with our tradition of grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Best of luck to them


  • Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭pajoguy


    We have caught up physically and thats a massive step to take. Mike casey will surley start in 2 weeks. At least we have a bench to make an impact. Well done today. Heads down and on we go again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    As they are are saying over on the Tipp thread, that Premier county performance was possibly the worst in living memory. Yet they were ahead at half-time and, in Kiely's words, managed to get 'buckets of ball' into our defence in the last 15 minutes. So we might not be as good as we looked or as we think we are. The Cork-Clare game certainly looked a much faster-paced affair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭RayVaughan1984


    Well done Limerick.A very assured performance despite some poor shooting in the first 30 mins.Gillane is a serious talent.He always does the right thing in possession and has very capable players around him which Limerick can build on.I can see Limerick making the last 4 if not more.They are playing without fear.They responded very well after Forde's goal(totally against the run of play)
    Tipp really need to pick it up.An embarrassing performance.You would have to expect a resurgent performance in Thurles Sunday,but won't hold my breath.No tactics or gameplan from Ryan.seems all a bit disjointed.Without Bonner,that attack doesnt function.Had a feeling Limerick would win this easy given his absence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    Hockied wrote: »
    Nash wasnt even on panel. Agree with all of that. I watched dan morrisey carefully and what i learned is that our management have a lot to answer to. Any number of lads are better yet he and brother guaranteed place. Hickey a spent force for years. Saying all this again and again and no point in not saying it straight. Lets celebrate beating a brutal tipp team. Tipp totally under performed. Management have missed a chance to have a possible all ireland winning team by playing Morrissey, Hickey and Hegarty regardless of performance while better players can't make panel. We could have a full back nicely blooded in past two years but now what have we? Missed opportunities and all to keep the usual people happy. Lucky to get win. Hope a full back emerges and they start playing players for reasons other than who their daddy is. Then we can have a chance to win an all ireland. Not far off capable of taking a Munster though, looking at other teams. Maybe that will do limerick supporters ?[/QUO


    My god what a post did we not win today bringing players parents in to it what game were you watching today far from a complete performance but will take it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Hockied wrote: »
    Nash wasnt even on panel. Agree with all of that. I watched dan morrisey carefully and what i learned is that our management have a lot to answer to. Any number of lads are better yet he and brother guaranteed place. Hickey a spent force for years. Saying all this again and again and no point in not saying it straight. Lets celebrate beating a brutal tipp team. Tipp totally under performed. Management have missed a chance to have a possible all ireland winning team by playing Morrissey, Hickey and Hegarty regardless of performance while better players can't make panel. We could have a full back nicely blooded in past two years but now what have we? Missed opportunities and all to keep the usual people happy. Lucky to get win. Hope a full back emerges and they start playing players for reasons other than who their daddy is. Then we can have a chance to win an all ireland. Not far off capable of taking a Munster though, looking at other teams. Maybe that will do limerick supporters ?

    That post is nearly as bad as Tipp were!! Hegarty was a collosus yesterday and caused Tipp untold damage, he is not a natural forward but by god is he a handful, you will win nothing without ball winners like Hegarty. Tipp would snap your hand off for a Hegarty.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    I enquired and am absolutely sure there is no influence in picking the team, only the management have infuence.

    We can only improve, their a resilient bunch, looking forward to next team picked and the cork game


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Walter.White


    I enquired and am absolutely sure there is no influence in picking the team, only the management have infuence.

    We can only improve, their a resilient bunch, looking forward to next team picked and the cork game

    You're right about that I think all the players yesterday proved they were selected on merit. The panel will be used over the next couple of games. Hickey was the only player yesterday who I would say was very poor but only because his not a natural full back. It was always going to be difficult for him against a really strong full forward line. Some people thought tom Morrissey was poor but he scored two points from play and won a few frees. His work rate was immense ! Himself and Dan have improved a lot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    They have indeed.

    Would love Richie mac to get a game, like mulcahy he hasn't got a chance with a proper team and is surely as fit as ever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Walter.White


    Hockied wrote: »
    Nash wasnt even on panel. Agree with all of that. I watched dan morrisey carefully and what i learned is that our management have a lot to answer to. Any number of lads are better yet he and brother guaranteed place. Hickey a spent force for years. Saying all this again and again and no point in not saying it straight. Lets celebrate beating a brutal tipp team. Tipp totally under performed. Management have missed a chance to have a possible all ireland winning team by playing Morrissey, Hickey and Hegarty regardless of performance while better players can't make panel. We could have a full back nicely blooded in past two years but now what have we? Missed opportunities and all to keep the usual people happy. Lucky to get win. Hope a full back emerges and they start playing players for reasons other than who their daddy is. Then we can have a chance to win an all ireland. Not far off capable of taking a Munster though, looking at other teams. Maybe that will do limerick supporters ?

    Very unfair to say this about two players who have both improved a lot this year. Tom was a handful for Tipp yesterday and scored two nice points from play, won frees and worked very hard tracking back the field. He hit one or two wides but so did others. Dan has improved a lot this year. I'm not his biggest fan but his worked hard and I thought he performed well yesterday.
    I'd agree we have better options there but at the moment the manager feels the options are better in other positions but his certainly not guranteed his place because of who his father is ! I wouldn't look down my nose at a Munster championship considering how poor we've been the last few years.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Walter.White


    They have indeed.

    Would love Richie mac to get a game, like mulcahy he hasn't got a chance with a proper team and is surely as fit as ever.

    I agree, he certainly wouldn't be worse than hickey there and he would actually get protection from his halfback line for once. Mulcahy has always had the talent and proved yesterday that he can be lethal when we play to his strength and give him good low ball instead of the hit and hope stuff under previous management !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    You'd think reading this that Limerick are regularly winning Munster championship matches. I'd expect them to do quite well this year, but beating Tipp comfortably is a rare thing and should be enjoyed. Well done Sunday, ye have turned a corner and I hope we are depending on winning when we come down to the Gaelic Grounds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭pajoguy


    Should we send a Thank You card to Mick Ryan for taking all the attention of us after sunday!!! Delighted that everyone thinks it was purely tippz fault we won on Sunday. We werent top class but the signs are promising. Momentum is always a big thing for Limerick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    pajoguy wrote: »
    Should we send a Thank You card to Mick Ryan for taking all the attention of us after sunday!!! Delighted that everyone thinks it was purely tippz fault we won on Sunday. We werent top class but the signs are promising. Momentum is always a big thing for Limerick.

    We won't be long finding out where we are down in cork.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 treklane


    great start on Sunday was elated well done.
    not posting on here flat out but love reading along great thread.
    bit disappointed about some of the chanting out of the terrace bad language not limerick supporters style.
    also hickey i agree had an off day but he does not deserve the abuse not fair his an amateur player that gives his all
    when pulling on the jersey.
    know its a bit of banter but seamus gets a lot of stick not fair in my opinion hope he turns it around
    cork will be a tough match and a draw could be a good bet.
    theirs a great determination in the team we could beat anyone on the day so well done to all involved
    come on limerick


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  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭RayVaughan1984


    We won't be long finding out where we are down in cork.

    Wouldn't fear Cork at all.Clare were so wasteful in that first half.Going for goal with every single attack.Limerick comfortably by 4 or 5.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Exactly, cork will present a very different challenge in terms of pace and athleticism


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    treklane wrote: »
    great start on Sunday was elated well done.
    not posting on here flat out but love reading along great thread.
    bit disappointed about some of the chanting out of the terrace bad language not limerick supporters style.
    also hickey i agree had an off day but he does not deserve the abuse not fair his an amateur player that gives his all
    when pulling on the jersey.
    know its a bit of banter but seamus gets a lot of stick not fair in my opinion hope he turns it around
    cork will be a tough match and a draw could be a good bet.
    theirs a great determination in the team we could beat anyone on the day so well done to all involved
    come on limerick

    Good post. Agree with all your points, especially the over-the-top criticism of Hickey. Played out of position as we all know but probably the best/only option available for this particular game, pitched against the best forward in the country at the moment by a country mile. People forgetting his many splendid performances in green over the years. Most of those he played underage with are now retired, even from club hurling. An achievement in itself.
    For the record, apart from the goal, Forde failed to score from play. Some silly frees from Hickey I know but it could also be argued that at least 2 were extremely soft, as were 2 awarded to Limerick in the second half.
    Hickey may have a big part to play in this campaign yet, be it as a replacement corner/wing back or midfielder. Every squad number will be equally important in this new format. I previously predicted that the starting team in Ennis on June 17 could see up to 5 different starters from the Tipp game. Injuries/suspensions/loss of form/horses for courses, may all come into play.
    As for the terrace chanting, I don't know where these little gits have come out of or where they've been all along but they need to be 'outed' and banned from games. End of.
    Also the genius that was responsible for the annoying and deafening rock music over the loudspeakers during the intervals needs a proper kick in the a##e.
    Leave that to our brethren at the stadium down the road while drinking their pints and cheering for a bunch of South Africans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    Any news on p casey lads? What I heard is he had his appendix out and something wasn't right and they'd to open him again? If true let's hope he gets better soon and back to what he's good at


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    Also the genius that was responsible for the annoying and deafening rock music over the loudspeakers during the intervals needs a proper kick in the a##e.
    Leave that to our brethren at the stadium down the road while drinking their pints and cheering for a bunch of South Africans.[/QUOTE]

    Enjoyed that one I thought I was the only one that thought this way


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭lim4ev


    Draw today lads could be a disaster for us as it keeps both in the hunt would have been better had cork won the way I calculate it it might come down to us and Clare in last match that's if we beat Waterford and lose to cork and Clare lose to tipp I say all this as I think Waterford are in deep trouble.

    Lot of hurling to be played yet roll on sat evening


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭RayVaughan1984


    lim4ev wrote: »
    Draw today lads could be a disaster for us as it keeps both in the hunt would have been better had cork won the way I calculate it it might come down to us and Clare in last match that's if we beat Waterford and lose to cork and Clare lose to tipp I say all this as I think Waterford are in deep trouble.

    Lot of hurling to be played yet roll on sat evening

    Ye will beat Cork.A week's rest should see ye beat them a few points and ye can improve on that Tipp performance too.Gillane will have a field day against that cork corner back line
    It will come down to Clare and Tipp in Thurles.
    i expect Tipp to lose at home to Clare.We look poor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Ye will beat Cork.A week's rest should see ye beat them a few points and ye can improve on that Tipp performance too.Gillane will have a field day against that cork corner back line
    It will come down to Clare and Tipp in Thurles.
    i expect Tipp to lose at home to Clare.We look poor.

    Not sure what you are basing any of that on to be perfectly honest.

    Cork/limerick will be 50/50, you say Gillane will have a field day, we'll Kingston and Horgan will be falling over each other tp see who gets to play on Hickey!

    Clare v Tipp in thurles will be a cracker but Clare havent won a championship game of note outside on Ennis in 5 years, If Tipp have the same attitude and application that they showed in the 2nd half yesterday Clare wont live with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭RayVaughan1984


    danganabu wrote: »
    Not sure what you are basing any of that on to be perfectly honest.

    Cork/limerick will be 50/50, you say Gillane will have a field day, we'll Kingston and Horgan will be falling over each other tp see who gets to play on Hickey!

    Clare v Tipp in thurles will be a cracker but Clare havent won a championship game of note outside on Ennis in 5 years, If Tipp have the same attitude and application that they showed in the 2nd half yesterday Clare wont live with them.

    I didn't say Limerick would hammer Cork,but do they look a more promising side than Cork?I would think yes.I hope I'm proved right even for the sake of this online message forum alone!That Limerick half back line looks far more solid than Tipp's so i'd tip them to have more possession than Cork and create more.I could be wrong of course.Tipp should beat Waterford,but they look awful flat,Yes they rallied well in Thurles but one more poor half of hurling and its curtains for the season.


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