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    #1502
    rocoll
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭rocoll


    hey guys, im coming from a non-law background, finance specifically, and sitting 3 exams in october and am a tad confused about a few things hoping someone can shed some light. I'm doing torts, criminal and contract and am finding the material quite ok so far but the exam itself is confusing me. Apologies in advance for the qs if they seem silly.

    someone mentioned in the thread about being able to bring in pieces of legislation, is that possible for all exams or just certain ones? Is there anything else we can bring in ?

    Also, i've plenty of sample answers but they all vary greatly in length and detail. Is there a guide as to how long and how much detail would be required for an answer? Would you be required to know very specific details eg. section number when talking about pieces of legislation etc.? On the same note would you be expected to reference lots of cases or would 4/5 be enough per answer? When talking about the cases do we need to give a summary of them or just ref them and discuss as if the examiners knows the case?

    As you can see the style of answering is making me most nervous! Any other tips are more than welcome as I am very out of my element when it comes to law exams !

    Thanks in advance :)


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    #1503
    Lumi77
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭Lumi77


    Hi guys,

    Am I the only one finding Easements in Property so hard understand and retain?
    I did this topic 4 times and i still find it hard.

    Any advice how would you approach a question or why am i having such hard time with it?

    Thank you


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    #1504
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Is anyone else still waiting on their exam letters? Particularly anyone who requested special circumstances.


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    #1505
    Lumi77
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭Lumi77


    Hi

    In your case you are allowed to bring the Contract legislation. if you have a look on the letter you received or the website it ll say which you are allowed to bring, no other.
    you need to know sections yes and case law.
    approx 4 to 5 pages per answer but it depends on question and style of writing as the questions are very specific but in some subjects they can be mixed. ie. in criminal you could cover 5 topics in a problem question.
    you only have 30 min per question and make sure you answer 5 its key to passing.
    last question unless is a case note, you can only give the finding in the case and why is it relevant to your answer.

    hope this helps if you have any other questions you can message me private.


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    #1506
    Officegirl101
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭Officegirl101


    jazzypatty89 wrote: »
    Passing off didn't come up last year, I don't think. Q.6 was a Q on defective products.

    That's what I thought! Okay thanks for that - was worried for a second there. Definitely covering passing off then.

    Thanks![/QUOTE]

    Does anyone know what topics came up in tort last sitting?

    Or what is due to come up?

    Literally two weekends to study for this due to work so ill have to narrow it down and hope for the best.


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    #1507
    Tony_TwoLegs
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Tony_TwoLegs


    rocoll wrote: »
    hey guys, im coming from a non-law background, finance specifically, and sitting 3 exams in october and am a tad confused about a few things hoping someone can shed some light. I'm doing torts, criminal and contract and am finding the material quite ok so far but the exam itself is confusing me. Apologies in advance for the qs if they seem silly.

    someone mentioned in the thread about being able to bring in pieces of legislation, is that possible for all exams or just certain ones? Is there anything else we can bring in ?

    Also, i've plenty of sample answers but they all vary greatly in length and detail. Is there a guide as to how long and how much detail would be required for an answer? Would you be required to know very specific details eg. section number when talking about pieces of legislation etc.? On the same note would you be expected to reference lots of cases or would 4/5 be enough per answer? When talking about the cases do we need to give a summary of them or just ref them and discuss as if the examiners knows the case?

    As you can see the style of answering is making me most nervous! Any other tips are more than welcome as I am very out of my element when it comes to law exams !

    Thanks in advance :)

    Hi
    I can give you a brutally honest answer (2 weeks out) or a nice one.

    I'll focus on the latter.....
    Your LS letter will have details on legislation allowed (pink pages).

    My answers tend to be 3 pages (4 pages max).
    Cases vary but just rattling off cases will mean a fail. You need to know the ratio (logic) behind the judgment. Discuss them in light of what's asked only.

    Yes, you need an understanding of legislation. These are law exams.

    TH if you're new to law and a bit lost 2 weeks out I worry. If you need resit in March- sit 4 and not 3. Give you leeway to fail one.


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    #1508
    MomTuR
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭MomTuR


    Does anybody have a copy of the city colleges night before notes for October 2017? Specifically Constitutional, EU, Tort, Criminal, Contract!


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    #1509
    MomTuR
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭MomTuR


    Does anybody have a copy of the city colleges night before notes for October 2017? Specifically Constitutional, EU, Tort, Criminal, Contract!


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    #1510
    MomTuR
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭MomTuR


    Does anybody have a copy of the city colleges night before notes for October 2017? Specifically Constitutional, EU, Tort, Criminal, Contract!


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    #1511
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    MomTuR wrote: »
    Does anybody have a copy of the city colleges night before notes for October 2017? Specifically Constitutional, EU, Tort, Criminal, Contract!

    They're not out yet. Will probably be on this link when they are.


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    #1512
    nmwcc
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭nmwcc


    This may be a stupid question but when exactly does one use "CJEU" / "ECJ"?


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    #1513
    Leraf
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭Leraf


    XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »
    They're not out yet. Will probably be on this link when they are.

    Never understood why there was no link for equity notes?


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    #1514
    Tony_TwoLegs
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Tony_TwoLegs


    nmwcc wrote: »
    This may be a stupid question but when exactly does one use "CJEU" / "ECJ"?

    You can use both. Technically the former is there courts (ECJ and General Court and one other).
    Using either is ok though


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    #1515
    RyanMcG123
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭RyanMcG123


    Probably a really obvious question but I just got my letter with law society and it has a really long ID number and a short candidate number and was wondering which one we write in the exam paper?


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    #1516
    jackbraiden
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭jackbraiden


    RyanMcG123 wrote: »
    Probably a really obvious question but I just got my letter with law society and it has a really long ID number and a short candidate number and was wondering which one we write in the exam paper?

    The short candidate number.


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    #1517
    Robbie25808
    Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Robbie25808


    “It is now well recognised that a company's members can give their sanction to a course of action in
    either three ways: first, by a resolution passed at a general meeting of the company, secondly, by
    unanimous written resolution and thirdly by an estoppel created with their unanimous informal agreement.”
    You are required to discuss this statement citing all relevant cases and statute law in your answer

    Anybody know what to write for this question?


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    #1518
    LegalLaaaaady
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭LegalLaaaaady


    Any predictions for EU?


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    #1519
    BASHBAG
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭BASHBAG


    Query re: Professional Negligence.

    Could anyone tell me if the Medical Negligence guidelines, expounded in Dunne v National Maternity Hospital (1989), apply equally to other professional negligence situations eg: Solicitors, Barristers, Accountands etc.,

    Thanks


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    #1520
    Mayo91
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭Mayo91


    Can anyone exaplin the difference beween successive causes in Tort

    Jobling v Assoication Dairies

    and then L v Minister for Health

    L v Minister for health seems to concur with Baker v Willoughby which HOL didn't really like.

    Kind of confused


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    #1521
    Robbie25808
    Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Robbie25808


    March 2016 – Question 1, Part A (Note, students were required to do Part A AND B in this question)

    (A) Outline and discuss the key functions in the creation and application of European Union law of (i) the European Commission; (ii) the European Parliament; and (iii) the Council.


    For a question like this, is there any point in learning off the functions when you can just copy it down from the act? Or does the act not include everything?


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    #1522
    yournerd
    Registered Users Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    LegalLaaaaady wrote: »
    Any predictions for EU?


    1. Institutions
    2. General principles
    3. Supremacy
    4. Case notes
    5. Fmg
    6. Citizenship
    7. Competiton law
    8. Equality

    The a and b parts will be mixed up I think!!


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    #1523
    yournerd
    Registered Users Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    jackbraiden wrote: »
    The short candidate number.

    What about legislation? Do we use the candidate number?


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    #1524
    SM1803
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭SM1803


    Any get any company predictions?


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    #1525
    Robbie25808
    Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Robbie25808


    In relation to constitutional law:

    If guards make a bona fide attempt to contact your solicitor and you make statements before he arrives can the court use this?
    If they do not make bona fide attempts and you make a statement can they use this?

    Thanks


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    #1526
    Lemonee_
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Lemonee_


    Any tips for constitutional please? essential topics and the likes?


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    #1527
    Tony_TwoLegs
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Tony_TwoLegs


    Robbie25808 wrote: »
    In relation to constitutional law:

    If guards make a bona fide attempt to contact your solicitor and you make statements before he arrives can the court use this?
    If they do not make bona fide attempts and you make a statement can they use this?

    Thanks

    Look at Gormley and White etc

    They must wait a REASONABLE time before questioning you I think. Can't interrogate you once you request one.
    CAN take samples though.
    Also law changed regarding right to solicitor being present in questioning.


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    #1528
    SM1803
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭SM1803


    yournerd wrote: »
    1. Institutions
    2. General principles
    3. Supremacy
    4. Case notes
    5. Fmg
    6. Citizenship
    7. Competiton law
    8. Equality

    The a and b parts will be mixed up I think!!

    hey! what do you mean a & b will be mixed up?


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    #1529
    Tony_TwoLegs
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Tony_TwoLegs


    Lemonee_ wrote: »
    Any tips for constitutional please? essential topics and the likes?

    My guessing:

    Fair Procedures
    Constitutional Challenge Obstacles
    Non Delegation Doctrine
    Proportionality
    Freedom of Expression

    To name a few


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    #1530
    LegalLaaaaady
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭LegalLaaaaady


    SM1803 wrote: »
    hey! what do you mean a & b will be mixed up?


    The Examiner states in March 2017's Examiner Report that he has done away with the (a)/(b) style Qs as it has tended to confuse students and the only (a)/(b) style choice Q will appear for the case note Q hereforth.


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    #1531
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Tony_TwoLegs wrote: »
    Look at Gormley and White etc

    They must wait a REASONABLE time before questioning you I think. Can't interrogate you once you request one.
    CAN take samples though.
    Also law changed regarding right to solicitor being present in questioning.
    The subsequent appeal in DPP v. Doyle [2015] IECA 109 is worth noting on this topic.

    The appellant had made a number of admissions during questioning and one ground of appeal was that these admissions were made in breach of his right to legal advice. An issue was made of the adequacy of the consultations the appellant received and whether this amounted to "reasonable access". There had been a number of telephone consultations and any time the appellant asked for access it was granted so this ground of appeal failed.


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