Respawn Jedi Fallen Order

Stone Deaf 4evr · 12-11-2019 2:00pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Late embargo or not in this case, anyone who decides to buy a game before reading reviews - whether they’re released a week beforehand or on the day - deserves the 60 quid hit if the game turns out to be ****e

If it was something like the division or destiny , the fear of getting left behind is real, with a single player focused thing like this, there's really no need to be preordering.

Grumpypants · 12-11-2019 2:03pm

I live life on the edge and blindly pre ordered a ps5 from gamestop. Yolo

As for embargos they are often used in place of a big marketing drive. Outside of word of mouth this is a really quiet release for a star wars game.

JimBurnley · 12-11-2019 2:08pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

If it was something like the division or destiny , the fear of getting left behind is real, with a single player focused thing like this, there's really no need to be preordering.

I wouldn't preorder at full price, but the GS offer of €10 plus old game (total cost €30 max) a few months ago was way too tempting. Even if it's pants I can get that back after a few weeks from CEX, probably even make a little profit. My only 'problem' is finding time to play as I just got Death Stranding too

2Mad2BeMad · 12-11-2019 2:18pm

Cordell wrote: »

I'm waiting for this but I'm a bit concerned about DS references (yeah, I know) - will it feature the same mechanics as DS? I mean grind/farm one section until the next, one chance to recover dropped loot?

I hope so :P

Cordell · 12-11-2019 2:40pm

It certainly looks like so, such is life

So I'll pay full price on Steam so I will be able to refund if needed

12-11-2019 2:43pm

Multiple good reasons for embargos. Prevents media putting out a review just to be first, with or without playing the game. Prevents reviews of incomplete games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRcCSYX-wLI

TitianGerm · 12-11-2019 2:45pm

Niska wrote: »

They are also not allowing the usual 10 hour advance trial for EA Access members - "to stop spoilers".

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-11-12-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-wont-get-ea-access-trial

https://twitter.com/EAAccess/status/1193958401874653184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1193958401874653184&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurogamer.net%2Farticles%2F2019-11-12-star-wars-jedi-fallen-order-wont-get-ea-access-trial

What's the campaign time on it? If it's similar to Titanfall 2 then you could probably blast through it in the 10 hours and that would affect sales.

Cordell · 12-11-2019 2:48pm

This is a single player game, unlike TF2 which is a multiplayer game with a single player campaign. So it has to be (much) more than that.

Shiminay · 12-11-2019 3:49pm

It doesn't have to be anything

It certainly should be mind you, but that's a very different thing.

I'm not at all happy about all this "Dark Souls" references. I fking hate the Dark Souls games.

Cordell · 12-11-2019 3:56pm

I hate them too. Although I didn't mind the rest with respawn of enemies and revenge quests in Shadow of Mordor, but did not like it either.

Zero-Cool · 12-11-2019 5:18pm

I've no interest in star wars but the dark souls comparison has me very intrigued in this. I believe it won't be a patch on it difficulty wise but I'm like l liking the sound of the mechanics.

Potential-Monke · 12-11-2019 11:42pm

Penn wrote: »

Well that's more troubling than the review embargo imo. I'd also wonder if that breaks the T&Cs of EA Access, if people were told they'd get trial access to all EA games, though I presume they'd have some get-out clause for that. Have they done it with any other game?

Oh they're covered!

EA Access T&C's wrote:

EA reserves the right to change and update the EA Access Services, and the EA Content offered through the EA Access Services without any liability to you. Vault titles are subject to change and may be removed, and the online services for certain Vault titles may be discontinued. In the event that EA changes the EA Access Services, including the removal of Vault titles or discontinuation of online services for certain Vault titles, we will provide 30 days advance notice to you by posting a notice on https://www.ea.com/ea-access/terms/service-vault-updates.

13-11-2019 1:54am

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

I don't think anyone is against embargoes, it's late embargoes that people are wary of. Very rarely do late embargoes actually hide a good game. Even Doom 2016 - which had no review copies sent out - was held back because the devs and Bethesda admitted they thought it would flop.

Perhaps in EA's case they are just especially nervous when it comes to the Star Wars IP because of their sordid history with it. They are probably paranoid that the critics will have knives out due to leftover resentment from Battlefront II and won't judge the game fairly...or it really could just be the game is trash. We'll see.

I was fully against embargoes earlier in the thread. I presumed it meant **** game.

Vicxas · 13-11-2019 11:36am

Embargos always rile me up the wrong way, im hoping this game is good. My heart cant handle another awful Star Wars game

Rob2D · 13-11-2019 8:36pm

Just got sent a deal there for this 20% off already.......

ERG89 · 13-11-2019 8:41pm

Rob2D wrote: »

Just got sent a deal there for this 20% off already.......

Where is that??

Grumpypants · 14-11-2019 4:43pm

It's out in New Zealand so the first few streams have shown up. I won't embed this so you have to click out to avoid spoilers but this is the first hours or so but skip to about 20 min mark if you just want to see some combat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdbaMH1igTM

Stone Deaf 4evr · 14-11-2019 5:33pm

Grumpypants wrote: »

It's out in New Zealand so the first few streams have shown up. I won't embed this so you have to click out to avoid spoilers but this is the first hours or so but skip to about 20 min mark if you just want to see some combat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdbaMH1igTM

looks ok in fairness. I'm still going to hold off until I see a few reviews though.

14-11-2019 6:32pm

Any way to play on PC early? VPN?

Sephiroth_dude · 14-11-2019 10:05pm

I got the duluxe for 50 on cd keys for xbox one.

Varik · 15-11-2019 1:19am

Watched the opening, Is that the hu playing at the start.

KilOit · 15-11-2019 7:20am

Ign

9 -gave it a glowing review

Grumpypants · 15-11-2019 8:01am

84 on PS4, 85 on XBOX, and 90 on PC on metacritic from around 20 reviews. Seems to be a hit.

15-11-2019 8:23am

Respawn are a top Dev

Kiith · 15-11-2019 9:30am

Looking good anyway. Will get stuck into it this week, after seeing those reviews.

Retr0gamer · 15-11-2019 9:51am

Eurogamer review less than enthusiastic. Said they were bored for a lot of it and the story is drivel.

Kiith · 15-11-2019 9:56am

While others seem to be saying the story is pretty good. It's like reviews are subjective or something :P

To be fair, i was probably going to play this regardless of the reviews. It's Star Wars...and while that's not quite as important to me anymore, it's still Star Wars

Penn · 15-11-2019 10:01am

Kiith wrote: »

While others seem to be saying the story is pretty good. It's like reviews are subjective or something :P

To be fair, i was probably going to play this regardless of the reviews. It's Star Wars...and while that's not quite as important to me anymore, it's still Star Wars

Yeah for me this is one of those "A family member asked me what I want for Xmas and I can't think of anything so I'll just pick this game. F*ck it, it'll do" kind of games. Not hyped in the least about it, but might be a decent enough playthrough. Most reviews are generally positive enough.

Kiith · 15-11-2019 10:26am

It definitely helps that i only need to pay €15 to subscribe to Origin Prime for a month to play (and likely complete) it.

Minime2.5 · 15-11-2019 10:43am

Really delighted to hear it's like the Dark Souls games. Some of tbe best games ever made despite what others may say

Vicxas · 15-11-2019 11:19am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Eurogamer review less than enthusiastic. Said they were bored for a lot of it and the story is drivel.

Eurogamer are normally very sceptical about everything.

Retr0gamer · 15-11-2019 11:29am

Vicxas wrote: »

Eurogamer are normally very sceptical about everything.

I'd rather that than the blind reviewers on board the hype train which is the majority of publications on Metacritic, the IGNs and Easy Allies of the world.

Kat Bailey at USgamer gave it a 7/10. Wonderful combat but uneven pacing, technical issues, feels a bit rushed and the writing not being great as well seem to be her main points. Good but needed more time in the oven so the combat could shine through the not so good parts.

pixelburp · 15-11-2019 11:40am

I've seen footage of the ingame (holo)map once the game opens up a little, it looks utterly horrendous.

Exclamation Marc · 15-11-2019 11:43am

Glad that for once a review embargo hadn't meant a brutal game.

15-11-2019 11:44am

I've impulsively bought it. 47 on dodgy key sites. I like metroidvanias and I like star wars. I'm gonna jump in and not gonna read any reviews. The high-ish marks people have quoted here are good enough for me.

Grumpypants · 15-11-2019 12:07pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Eurogamer review less than enthusiastic. Said they were bored for a lot of it and the story is drivel.

I read it, and it was a pretty glowing review up until she had to backtrack through the locations and that seems to be the main issue. I do hate it myself, especially if all the enemies you just killed just reappear. I'd be okay with running back through all the dead bodies, or a new group of enemies being there investigating. But just the same ones again and again is daft.

She did mention the thing I always bang on about with how reviewers play these games and how it gives a different impression than when players will play it.

"I'll admit crunching a Souls-like in less than four days is an unnatural and gruelling experience: I imagine if I'd played Fallen Order over several months, I would have been less frustrated, but probably still bored."

Watched the IGN review and they loved it, said it's about 20 hours, that enemies only respawn if you use the meditation and the story is great with a satisfying payoff

bennyl10 · 15-11-2019 4:07pm

hey guys, where would be the cheapest place to grab this?
PS4?

Vicxas · 15-11-2019 4:14pm

Smyths have it for 60 quid

15-11-2019 4:51pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'd rather that than the blind reviewers on board the hype train which is the majority of publications on Metacritic, the IGNs and Easy Allies of the world.

Kat Bailey at USgamer gave it a 7/10. Wonderful combat but uneven pacing, technical issues, feels a bit rushed and the writing not being great as well seem to be her main points. Good but needed more time in the oven so the combat could shine through the not so good parts.

Like Death Stranding :P

15-11-2019 9:37pm

It has an awful hour long intro with dreadful climbing mechanics, but gets going once you are given free reign. If your into metroidvania style exploring, this might be for you.

15-11-2019 11:18pm

What issues are you having with the climbing. It's a simple system that works more the fine.
Dreadful it aint

16-11-2019 12:34am

Deleted User wrote: »

What issues are you having with the climbing. It's a simple system that works more the fine.
Dreadful it aint

It's slow, cumbersome and not fun at all. Majority of the intro was made up of it.

JimBurnley · 16-11-2019 12:54am

Enjoyed the intro level. Mix of Uncharted style platforming and a bit of light saber tomfoolery. Promising start

Calhoun · 16-11-2019 2:22am

JimBurnley wrote: »

Enjoyed the intro level. Mix of Uncharted style platforming and a bit of light saber tomfoolery. Promising start

That stupid machine you had to unlock at the start I kept jumping off took me ages to figure it out.

I'm loving the atmosphere, it really feels like.a star wars game.

Potential-Monke · 16-11-2019 3:00pm

Oh lovely people of the gaming boards, I await your reviews of this. And maybe someone will keep this in mind while playing to see if it may be worth my time:

- I don't like Dark Souls and their types
- I'm not a fan of Star Wars (but Rogue One was good, the only good one)

So reading it so far, seems like it's not for me! But it does look good...

16-11-2019 5:05pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Oh lovely people of the gaming boards, I await your reviews of this. And maybe someone will keep this in mind while playing to see if it may be worth my time:

- I don't like Dark Souls and their types
- I'm not a fan of Star Wars (but Rogue One was good, the only good one)

So reading it so far, seems like it's not for me! But it does look good...

Difference being here is there are actual difficulty selections so if you are not into massive levels of infuriating difficulty then you can scale the difficulty up and down accordingly.
It's way more forgiving in that sense.

However on point 2, it's authentic Star Wars which is great for fans although a bit more of a grim feel to it considering it's timeline. Can't help you there if you don't like Star Wars the franchise.

Zero-Cool · 16-11-2019 5:11pm

I think when some people read 'dark souls game', they jump to 'infuriating difficulty' which i don't think a star wars game would ever have as, as posted above. I also have no interest in star wars but a video i watched earlier like like a game I'd really enjoy, definitely gonna pick it up soon.

Drumpot · 16-11-2019 5:18pm

Played a fair bit of the game. It’s a real puzzle type of game.

I’m on planet zaffa trying to escape after getting what’s required and don’t know where to go!!! Some parts very frustrating,

Calhoun · 16-11-2019 6:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

However on point 2, it's authentic Star Wars which is great for fans although a bit more of a grim feel to it considering it's timeline. Can't help you there if you don't like Star Wars the franchise.

This is it for me, I never really got into the dark souls type games so that was not a hook for me but you put it so well the authentic star wars feel is what I have fallen in love with.

I love BD1 and also how they have taken some of the plot devices like from the Kotor series

cutting a Jedi off from the force.

ktulu123 · 16-11-2019 9:39pm

Anyone having audio lag issues during cut scenes? Audio is about 5 seconds behind the footage. Have tried a few bits to fix but nothing works so far

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