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Should you expect a christmas bonus?

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    #92
    major bill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Quite lucky to be in a job where the employer rewards staff very generously with a hefty reward card every xmas.

    Also aware that we aren't entitled to one either so its always a nice gift.


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    #93
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    What's your point? I look up where Johnny has posted. Generally I agree with what he says. The man has his head screwed on right.

    Thanks Paddy. Right back at ya. You seem to understand how the world really works. Not some idealised ‘hippie drum circle’ view of the world where all employers are tyrants, and all employees are under the thumb of their boss.


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    #94
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Lots of those Eastern European lads are absolute sauce mechanics. Id say he's telling the truth. Two of them arrived to my gaff to put together an IKEA built in wardrobe. Bang of vodka off them would have knocked out a horse.

    That's true, you can still run strict no alcohol at work policy. When you are operating vehicles or heavy machinery you shouldn't have people who are drunk. We are fairly relaxed about some issues but not being drunk at work.


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    #95
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Thanks Paddy. Right back at ya. You seem to understand how the world really works. Not some idealised ‘hippie drum circle’ view of the world where all employers are tyrants, and all employees are under the thumb of their boss.
    I understand that you are a small business and wouldn't expect you to give bonus's to 11 staff if you can't afford it, it's more the way you talk about your staff that gets my back up. You make them sound like lower life forms. Without those grunts, you wouldn't be having your most profitable year, even if all they do is lift stuff in and out of vans.


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    #96
    Degag
    Registered Users Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭Degag


    Duffryman wrote: »
    Thank you for proving my point that many people don't understand how this 'bonus' lark really works.

    It's just your annual salary being paid in a different way to equal weekly, fortnightly, or monthly instalments.

    The company will have budgeted the relevant figure for your pay over the course of the full year. Pick any figure you like. Say €36,000. Now, would you like to get that as €3,000 per month, every month? Or as say €2,800 per month for 11 months, and then all the odd €200 amounts stacked up in December as a so-called 'bonus'? It's all the same in the end.


    Eh no.


    My company pays out a bonus that is dependant on a few things but generally works out as about an extra month salary. A bit more if the aforementioned depenancies are met, a bit less or none at all if they are not met.


    So, taking your example - if i am earning 36k - that is the figure on my contract and i therefore receive 3k gross every month. Come December if targets are met i will get 6k but nowhere on my contract will it say my salary is 39k.


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    #97
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,717 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    The lads who work for me are very much manual labour grunts. The majority of them are Eastern European, as thick as two short planks, and have serious issues with alcohol consumption. They load heavy things into vans, unload them, and sometimes they will install these heavy things (commercial kitchen equipment). I could replace any of them in the morning, and not skip a heartbeat. They certainly don't deserve any sort of bonus. They don't offer any sort of differentiating skill that makes them worthy of a bonus. If they don't like that, then they can go and find another job. I'm doing most of them a favour by giving them a job in the first place. It's a small business I'm running, not bloody Goldman Sachs.

    I know this is AH so the above is read with a bucket of salt..

    But if that's your attitude to your staff, I very much doubt you treat your customers any better.

    No wonder so many small businesses fail, but also with an attitude like that, why would anyone support them anyway?


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    #98
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I have never ever got a Christmas bonus. Ive been working for 30 years.

    As far as I knew only bankers and those on the dole get a Christmas bonus.


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    #99
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,717 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    ... And no. Never gotten a Christmas bonus. December into January is usually a very long month with 5/6 weeks between paydays, and any annual bonuses in the new year I lose half to tax.

    Bah humbug!


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    #100
    mikemac2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    The lads who work for me are very much manual labour grunts. The majority of them are Eastern European, as thick as two short planks, and have serious issues with alcohol consumption.

    Weren't you here last week saying you'd never rent to Irish people as they are wasters. Foreigners only for your fancy apartment

    Now your Eastern european employees are no good either

    More bitterness in ya than a taxi driver :pac:


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    #101
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    My husband’s current and previous company (both private sector) don’t give Christmas bonuses. They pay for the Christmas party. I think hubs would rather the money.

    My friend works in a public sector laboratory. The employees pay for the Christmas party themselves and don’t get a Christmas bonus.

    My best bonus was when I was an entry-level employee in a company. You got €1000 or if you started in the company during that year, it was pro rata for the amount of the year you had been with the company. I believe I got €600 or so after tax. I probably got a higher bonus after tax than some higher ups because I was still within the lower tax band even with the bonus that month. Our Christmas party was also paid for.

    I never expected a bonus in any job though. The clue is in the name.


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    #102
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    I'm only in my current job since May after being in the previous one for 14 years (both pubs). My new employer is an absolute gent. He is paying me an extra week this week and told me to order my turkey and ham from our butcher, on him. That's more than I was given in all those years in the last place


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    #103
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    Weren't you here last week saying you'd never rent to Irish people as they are wasters. Foreigners only for your fancy apartment

    Now your Eastern european employees are no good either

    More bitterness in ya than a taxi driver :pac:

    No, my employees are great. I like them and they like me. They just aren’t getting a bonus as they don’t do anything that would make them worthy of a bonus. Doing the same as loads of other employers. They’ve a good work ethic actually. I couldn’t find Irish lads to do the work I’d say.


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    #104
    Degag
    Registered Users Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭Degag


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    No, my employees are great. I like them and they like me.

    The lads who work for me are very much manual labour grunts. The majority of them are Eastern European, as thick as two short planks, and have serious issues with alcohol consumption.

    and turn a blind eye to the fact that some of them are barely functioning alcoholics.


    Right.


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    #105
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    My Christmas bonus will be around 20 bags of blocks.

    I purposely ringed them to bring them home, put each and every one up on the big block,I'll chop them Saturday.

    Nothing more pleasurable than splitting block's with a New York fireman's axe a few days before Christmas.

    Roll up the sleeves and off I go....ho ho ho


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    #106
    blackcard
    Registered Users Posts: 3,868 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Spent half my working life in the private sector, generally got 1-2 weeks wages as a bonus. One exceptional year when I got 25% of my annual salary. Never got 1 cent in the public sector.


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    #107
    CIP4
    Registered Users Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭CIP4


    Get an annual bonus but it’s paid in March every year and is dependent on company, department and personal performance but is generally a sizable amount. Don’t get anything special in December just normal pay thinking about it now would be better to get the bonus paid in December or January.


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    #108
    jamesbere
    Registered Users Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    We get a 100 euro one tor all voucher. But also all employees get paid a bonus every march


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    #109
    jamesbere
    Registered Users Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    CIP4 wrote: »
    Get an annual bonus but it’s paid in March every year and is dependent on company, department and personal performance but is generally a sizable amount. Don’t get anything special in December just normal pay thinking about it now would be better to get the bonus paid in December or January.

    Yeah same here


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    #110
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Truckermal wrote: »
    Just so you know any time Johnny is involved in a thread on Boards Pintman Paddy suddenly arrives to thank his posts and back him up and vice versa....

    Yup, noticed that. :D


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    #111
    Rezident
    Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭Rezident


    I've never gotten a bonus but that's the public sector for you, I think you have to very high-up and already-overpaid to get a bonus.


    My missus works for a pharmaceutical company, when she is raging against the public sector, the issue of bonuses never comes up. Sectors like finance and Pharma etc. can and do pay massive bonuses.


    I suppose it's easy to pay bonuses when you don't pay tax and you're a drug dealer.


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    #112
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    blackcard wrote: »
    Never got 1 cent in the public sector.
    Rezident wrote: »
    I've never gotten a bonus but that's the public sector for you

    Wha ? Every week is bonus week in the public sector.


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    #113
    Autosport
    Registered Users Posts: 22,246 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Yeah I receive a Christmas bonus every year :) Christmas party/dinner is all paid for by the company :)


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    #114
    TheDavester
    Registered Users Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭TheDavester


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Wha ? Every week is bonus week in the public sector.

    when your in the lower rungs, It really isn't great


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    #115
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Or the individual concerned could have refrained from asking a question that was irrelevant. Works both ways.

    Or you could have refrained from smugly using the word 'substantial' in your post. But you didn't. It was also irrelevant.


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    #116
    lashes34
    Registered Users Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    We get a weeks wages and up to €500 can be paid as a voucher so tax free. Christmas party paid for along with a free bar. Still a crappy place to work.


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    #117
    EPAndlee
    Registered Users Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭EPAndlee


    I normally get one of those pre paid credit cards and just transfer the money to myself using PayPal


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    #118
    NSAman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Personally, I never get a bonus, I give them....;)


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    #119
    aaakev
    Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Everyone in my company gets a bonus, they start at €200 all4one voucher for the lowest level ie apprentices and go up to €500 all4one along with a few grand in the wages for highest level. They are very good with it, we get it every year along with some bonuses during the year if performance is good


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    #120
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    titan18 wrote: »
    The dole get one, so yes, I think people who are actually working should get one.

    Wrong.
    JSB don't (ie, the recentl.y unemployed)


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    #121
    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    I usually get a €300 bonus from dairygold as a dairy farmer but as JFK once said the farmer is the only man in our economy that buys at retail sells at wholesale and pays freight both ways. So I guess they can well afford it.


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