Irish Rail Jobs Discussion

dashcamdanny · 03-01-2019 4:06pm

TallGlass wrote: »

Well see, what logic are they using here? Technically it's one electrified line as far as physics goes. I think they meant more so, they operate one service in Dublin Area (generally) and not another service in say Cork.

I'm also thinking there is a fair amount of weight placed on the questions 'select the best 3' and 'select the worst 3'

It does say dart line 1 IS TO BE so 1 is correct I guess.

I had not been in a bus in 30 years and never ever on a DB. I did not have a clue how a bus worked or how they are run in a city I explained that to the interviewer on my last career change. Yet here I am now. Driving a double decker around the city center. In a fairly highly sought after job.

I would think they will expect people not to know anything about trains or stations either.
And judge you on suitability, reliability and common sense.

LouD2016 · 03-01-2019 4:07pm

Staplor wrote: »

It was a straight up question about infrastructure, looking up the answer is the clever thing to do if you don't know an answer.

Also I did the stage 2 exam. That was tricky, takes an age to get through them. Go at them with a clear head and nothing to distract you.

Just finished them. I'm gone cross eyed after them! I hate those scenario type questions...

TallGlass · 03-01-2019 4:31pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

It does say dart line 1 IS TO BE so 1 is correct I guess.

I had not been in a bus in 30 years and never ever on a DB. I did not have a clue how a bus worked or how they are run in a city I explained that to the interviewer on my last career change. Yet here I am now. Driving a double decker around the city center. In a fairly highly sought after job.

I would think they will expect people not to know anything about trains or stations either.
And judge you on suitability, reliability and common sense.

I hear ye! I know nothing much about trains myself to be honest. As I said did a fair few of these tests previously, always got past the first hurdle and never have I seen questions about the company appear, wouldn't surprise me if they came up in the interview as to why you selected certain answers etc..

Your better off been honest rather than going in and talking badly out your arse. They sit there daily, they'll know right away if your spoofing them.

Staplor · 03-01-2019 4:54pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Can you give an idea of the questions asked? Tia.

Bit like the last ones rate 1-4 what you'd do in a situation.

Finding letters in something like a word search.

Read a paragraph and answer questions based on it

Quosarmy · 03-01-2019 5:31pm

Guys can anybody tell me how long it takes to get a reply, applied around 11.00 this morning, havnt heard anything since, still watching the emails? Is it a lengthy waiting time? TIA

L1011 · 03-01-2019 5:38pm

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

and someone gave an incorrect answer here in response to it.

That was me. It isn't incorrect.

There is one DART line with one small branch. Wikipedia was speculatively rewritten by someone assuming that the original DART Underground was going to be built by now, which would have had two distinct lines.

If IE are marking tests based on Wikipedia info rather than what actually exists...

Working class heroes · 03-01-2019 5:42pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

I wrote two as the wiki states 2 lines. Im guessing most people did the same. I would not think these questions are important really though.

DART Line 1
The southern portion of the existing DART line is to branch west after Connolly Station to run onto the Western Commuter line, which is to be electrified as far as Maynooth. The branch to Navan is also due to be electrified as far as Dunboyne, with the goal of increasing the frequency of services on these lines.[citation needed]

8329 at Howth in October 1985
DART Line 2
The Northern portion of the DART line (North of Connolly Station) will be linked using the DART Underground to the Kildare line via Docklands station at Spencer Dock and Heuston Station. This strategic tunnel will link the DART directly with existing Luas light rail lines, hundreds of bus routes, planned Metro lines and extend the high frequency DART service to the Kildare commuter line. A DART service originating from the Northside (i.e. Howth) will divert to the Docklands and from there through a tunnel to Heuston station to continue service on the Kildare line. In April 2009, it was announced that an electrification project would extend the DART as far as Drogheda.[9] In February 2018 the Irish government announced a 10 year plan to electrify the lines to Drogheda, Maynooth, Hazelhatch, M3 Parkway and Docklands.[citation needed] Part of this plan also included ordering 200 New Emu DART coaches and building new stations. Irish rail are also planning on ordering 100 bi mode coaches to extend DART services before the lines are electrified and to run through the Phoenix park tunnel.

This is very wrong.

fordyjames · 03-01-2019 5:45pm

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Congratulations on googling all the answers... Glad you can think for yourself.

Wow, what did you expect someone to do. You sound like the user did something wrong by googling the answer, this is what any smart person would do. Also going by that comment no wonder you didn't get through the personality tests

Anyway Round 2 interview now to complete when I get home from work.

GBX · 03-01-2019 5:45pm

Quosarmy wrote: »

Guys can anybody tell me how long it takes to get a reply, applied around 11.00 this morning, havnt heard anything since, still watching the emails? Is it a lengthy waiting time? TIA

I did the first part around 11 yesterday morning and got a reply at 12.07am

03-01-2019 5:52pm

khaldrogo wrote: »

Some of the questions were about the company that you would be hard pressed to know if you didn't look up the info. Don't understand the issue myself?

My issue was that poster seemed to have a swipe at me in his initial comment, or it was just bad timing.

I said in my comment that maybe my gender went against me and then a message or two later the opening line was a counter to that which I took offence to.

Sorry if that wasn't the case.

Quosarmy · 03-01-2019 5:58pm

GBX wrote: »

I did the first part around 11 yesterday morning and got a reply at 12.07am

That ok, dream isn't over yet, very kind of you, thank you so much ðŸ‘

SweetCaliber · 03-01-2019 6:01pm

Quosarmy wrote: »

That ok, dream isn't over yet, very kind of you, thank you so much ðŸ‘

I did the first part last night around 8.30 and got the email this morning at 9.10 for part 2 online assessments

Quosarmy · 03-01-2019 6:13pm

SweetCaliber wrote: »

I did the first part last night around 8.30 and got the email this morning at 9.10 for part 2 online assessments

Thanks sweet, I had thought Id made a hames of it, il just have to wait.....

Infini · 03-01-2019 7:36pm

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance but why would unions oppose this? What could they possibly have against new entrants?

Only legitimate concern I could think of is if the company were offering new entrants inferior terms and conditions compared to existing staff and against current agreements aka shafting the new guy/girl.

n!ghtmancometh · 03-01-2019 8:48pm

L1011 wrote: »

That was me. It isn't incorrect.

There is one DART line with one small branch. Wikipedia was speculatively rewritten by someone assuming that the original DART Underground was going to be built by now, which would have had two distinct lines.

If IE are marking tests based on Wikipedia info rather than what actually exists...

On the IE website itself, Dart is described as Dublin's electric rail system, system as in singular. No other area in the country has an electrified rail line, so the correct answer has to be one. They didn't ask about branch lines or anything else you are blathering on about to try and come across as superior.

"The "Dublin Area Rapid Transit" is our only electrified rail line. From early morning to late at night, fast and frequent DART services operate along the Dublin coastline from Malahide and Howth in the North to Greystones in the South."

Del.Monte · 03-01-2019 9:13pm

Whatever happened to starting on the platform and working your way up? Sorry for asking.

Breffni1997 · 03-01-2019 9:14pm

Anyone hear anything reagrding results with the stage 2 online assesments ? And do we know when they are planing on taking the firat batch of trainie drivers ?

Thanks ,
-B

Jamie2k9 · 03-01-2019 9:20pm

Infini wrote: »

Only legitimate concern I could think of is if the company were offering new entrants inferior terms and conditions compared to existing staff and against current agreements aka shafting the new guy/girl.

Yet staff had no problem shafting additional drivers not so long ago!

PirateShampoo · 03-01-2019 9:33pm

Breffni1997 wrote: »

Anyone hear anything reagrding results with the stage 2 online assesments ? And do we know when they are planing on taking the firat batch of trainie drivers ?

Thanks ,
-B

Relax, it hasn't been 48 hrs yet.

Dats me · 03-01-2019 9:55pm

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

On the IE website itself, Dart is described as Dublin's electric rail system, system as in singular. No other area in the country has an electrified rail line, so the correct answer has to be one. They didn't ask about branch lines or anything else you are blathering on about to try and come across as superior.

"The "Dublin Area Rapid Transit" is our only electrified rail line. From early morning to late at night, fast and frequent DART services operate along the Dublin coastline from Malahide and Howth in the North to Greystones in the South."

They're not trying to come across as superior, you are coming across very poorly however. Look at a map of the system, you can see it branches at Howth junction hence "from Malahide and Howth in the North".

They answered a question earlier to be helpful.

SweetCaliber · 03-01-2019 10:04pm

Those tests, the one with the letters, I couldn't finish but was concentrating on getting what I marked off right so hopefully that doesn't impact too much. Other ones were fine, the 30 question one made me go off my head!

khaldrogo · 03-01-2019 10:07pm

In the initial questions about having any convictions etc it asks about colour blindness.

I had to pass a colour blindness test 20 years ago in order to do my apprenticeship. Obviously I passed it.

A couple of years ago I had another test as part of a general eye test and the optician said I had a touch of colour blindness. I've just done an online test now which I passed but some of the colours took me a while to get.

How important would you think this might be???

Obviously I can tell a red light from a green light so I'm not going to crash but I see different shades of brown as dark greens or dark purple.

Rootsblower · 03-01-2019 10:11pm

khaldrogo wrote: »

In the initial questions about having any convictions etc it asks about colour blindness.

I had to pass a colour blindness test 20 years ago in order to do my apprenticeship. Obviously I passed it.

A couple of years ago I had another test as part of a general eye test and the optician said I had a touch of colour blindness. I've just done an online test now which I passed but some of the colours took me a while to get.

How important would you think this might be???

Obviously I can tell a red light from a green light so I'm not going to crash but I see different shades of brown as dark greens or dark purple.

Fail the colour blindness test at the medical stage(assuming you get that far) and it’s goodbye. The colour blindness test for drivers is very strict

L1011 · 03-01-2019 10:15pm

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

On the IE website itself, Dart is described as Dublin's electric rail system, system as in singular. No other area in the country has an electrified rail line, so the correct answer has to be one. They didn't ask about branch lines or anything else you are blathering on about to try and come across as superior.

"The "Dublin Area Rapid Transit" is our only electrified rail line. From early morning to late at night, fast and frequent DART services operate along the Dublin coastline from Malahide and Howth in the North to Greystones in the South."

Are you unable to count?

I said there was one.

You are trying to argue against me, by saying that there is one.

PirateShampoo · 03-01-2019 10:16pm

Ran out of time on the RAAT got to question 25 or so. Found them a little hard to follow so kept double checking.

The IR-LDSJT was handy enough doing the right thing and common sense.

The mini Scaat I'm assuming it's impossible to finish the who page, or at least I didn't?

Also I'm guessing it submits automatically when I finish all 3?

weadick · 03-01-2019 10:57pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Whatever happened to starting on the platform and working your way up? Sorry for asking.

That would be great if anyone knew how to get that job...

whisky_galore · 03-01-2019 11:05pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Whatever happened to starting on the platform and working your way up? Sorry for asking.

There aren't many entry level positions left to get staff from, the cleaning, security etc have been contracted out, manual gates are almost a thing of the past and there's been a recruitment freeze for years. There's a chronic shortage of drivers so it's sh1t or burst time.

Sterling Archer · 03-01-2019 11:30pm

Just having a look there, Looks like there application site crashed.. Woops

Working class heroes · 03-01-2019 11:36pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

There aren't many entry level positions left to get staff from, the cleaning, security etc have been contracted out, manual gates are almost a thing of the past and there's been a recruitment freeze for years. There's a chronic shortage of drivers so it's sh1t or burst time.

There have been numerous gatekeeper positions advertised over the last 2/3 years. Many of the successful candidates have already progressed.

They may be looking for more soon enough.

Working class heroes · 03-01-2019 11:38pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

There aren't many entry level positions left to get staff from, the cleaning, security etc have been contracted out, manual gates are almost a thing of the past and there's been a recruitment freeze for years. There's a chronic shortage of drivers so it's sh1t or burst time.

There have been numerous gatekeeper positions advertised over the last 2/3 years. Many of the successful candidates have already progressed.

They may be looking for more soon enough.

whisky_galore · 03-01-2019 11:48pm

Working class heroes wrote: »

There have been numerous gatekeeper positions advertised over the last 2/3 years. Many of the successful candidates have already progressed.

They may be looking for more soon enough.

Drop in the ocean.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 03-01-2019 11:58pm

Siptu issued something today to Irish rail in relation to external recruitment

Don't be expecting jobs in a hurry here, this could cause delays

Unsure if Nbru issued anything yet

Hilly Bill · 04-01-2019 12:01am

weadick wrote: »

That would be great if anyone knew how to get that job...

Apply for the summer staff roles, they are using them to back fill positions. You can then apply for any other positions that may take your fancy.

Hilly Bill · 04-01-2019 12:06am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Siptu issued something today to Irish rail in relation to external recruitment

Don't be expecting jobs in a hurry here, this could cause delays

Unsure if Nbru issued anything yet

They don't have a leg to stand on seeing that they had no issues with the hiring of summer staff even at the time of pay issues. The union did zilch then so why are they getting involved now? They are supposed to represent all members and not just drivers.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 04-01-2019 12:09am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

They don't have a leg to stand on seeing that they had no issues with the hiring of summer staff even at the time of pay issues. The union did zilch then so why are they getting involved now? They are supposed to represent all members and not just drivers.

Well according to their notice that's actually their issue

They have stated on a documented I saw a little earlier that there is interest in the driver positions from Irish rail internal staff aswell as Dublin bus and bus Eireann staff.

They said in their documented the positions should've been advertised first on the internal system before taking it public like they did just over two years ago when they only advertised these jobs withing CIE.

So essentially they want it internal advertising, not public, yet.

Stephen15 · 04-01-2019 12:12am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Well according to their notice that's actually their issue

They have stated on a documented I saw a little earlier that there is interest in the driver positions from Irish rail internal staff aswell as Dublin bus and bus Eireann staff.

They said in their documented the positions should've been advertised first on the internal system before taking it public like they did just over two years ago when they only advertised these jobs withing CIE.

So essentially they want it internal advertising, not public, yet.

I thought there was interest within DB and BE alright but not IE.

Hilly Bill · 04-01-2019 12:16am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Well according to their notice that's actually their issue

They have stated on a documented I saw a little earlier that there is interest in the driver positions from Irish rail internal staff aswell as Dublin bus and bus Eireann staff.

They said in their documented the positions should've been advertised first on the internal system before taking it public like they did just over two years ago when they only advertised these jobs withing CIE.

So essentially they want it internal advertising, not public, yet.

They can still apply for it. They already hired from within a while back and even advertised in Dublin bus and bus eireann. Some bus drivers have already expressed an interest in applying this time.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 04-01-2019 12:17am

Stephen15 wrote: »

I thought there was interest within DB and BE alright but not IE.

Word got around that the people on platforms etc were told to go apply online for it too

Hilly Bill · 04-01-2019 12:20am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Well according to their notice that's actually their issue

They have stated on a documented I saw a little earlier that there is interest in the driver positions from Irish rail internal staff aswell as Dublin bus and bus Eireann staff.

They said in their documented the positions should've been advertised first on the internal system before taking it public like they did just over two years ago when they only advertised these jobs withing CIE.

So essentially they want it internal advertising, not public, yet.

I'd say it's just a few moaning heads who have no desire to apply anyway but and the union is stupidly listening to them. It would be nice if they even bothered to send us out theses memos seeing that we pay the subs etc.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 04-01-2019 12:20am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

They can still apply for it. They already hired from within a while back and even advertised in Dublin bus and bus eireann. Some bus drivers have already expressed an interest in applying this time.

And many of us have applied for it online just incase

But at the moment there's no option to apply via the internal channels which is the issue

The unions are backing up saying we should be able to transfer across if suitable from the tests etc. So we should keep service status etc.

This has not been advertised internally this time round and there seems to be an issue with getting answers from management

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 04-01-2019 12:22am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

I'd say it's just a few moaning heads who have no desire to apply anyway but and the union is stupidly listening to them. It would be nice if they even bothered to send us out theses memos seeing that we pay the subs etc.

Well I got an email from my rep about it

And no to be honest the ones moaning want to go, I'm moaning but did apply already online again just incase

There's an awful lot of people that want out of BÉ and Dublin bus

We could easily filll the 100 positions internally and people on internal would still be people left over

Hilly Bill · 04-01-2019 12:23am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Word got around that the people on platforms etc were told to go apply online for it too

They would have to do that anyway to get the tests done. Mind you, some can't drive a broom properly never mind doing a test. If they have an issue with the tests then they aren't suited to the job.

Hilly Bill · 04-01-2019 12:27am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Well I got an email from my rep about it

And no to be honest the ones moaning want to go, I'm moaning but did apply already online again just incase

There's an awful lot of people that want out of BÉ and Dublin bus

We could easily filll the 100 positions internally and people on internal would still be people left over

Could you get 100 suitable and head screwed on drivers who won't spad on the first day driving and end up being stood down and put on a gate somewhere. The company needs new blood.

Stephen15 · 04-01-2019 12:27am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

They would have to do that anyway to get the tests done. Mind you, some can't drive a broom property never mind doing a test. If they have an issue with the tests then they aren't suited to the job.

Are cleaning staff not employed by ISS not IE?

Jamie2k9 · 04-01-2019 12:32am

Is the progression level from bus to train driver good, most drivers I know of have only come from IE.

BE and DB staff must be worried, much better talent outside CIE

Jamie2k9 · 04-01-2019 12:33am

Stephen15 wrote: »

Are cleaning staff not employed by ISS not IE?

Both staff do cleaning, ISS a better one at that....

Hilly Bill · 04-01-2019 12:35am

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

And many of us have applied for it online just incase

But at the moment there's no option to apply via the internal channels which is the issue

The unions are backing up saying we should be able to transfer across if suitable from the tests etc. So we should keep service status etc.

This has not been advertised internally this time round and there seems to be an issue with getting answers from management

It's not that much of a sought after job within Irish rail anymore,, the money is grand but you can't move for new rules and regulations. I've talked to a few drivers and they have all said the same thing, don't go for the driving. It's never interested me anyway. It seems to interest mainly the new staff and the bus drivers etc.

Paul_Mc1988 · 04-01-2019 12:37am

So is it 45k all in. Does your pension come out of this also?. Also is there overtime on occasion and if so is it paid on top of gross salary or included in it.

Just asking as I'm above the 45k in my current job but this is somthing that really intrigues me but the financial side is holding me back a bit.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 04-01-2019 12:42am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

It's not that much of a sought after job within Irish rail anymore,, the money is grand but you can't move for new rules and regulations. I've talked to a few drivers and they have all said the same thing, don't go for the driving. It's never interested me anyway. It seems to interest mainly the new staff and the bus drivers etc.

We've an awful lot of new staff in both Dublin bus and bus Eireann, who funny enough also came from the "outside" just like I did when I was new.

Plenty of level headed people in both companies.

It may not be sought after in IE but in both bus companies an awful lot of people are happy to jump for it.

The two bus companies aren't safe anymore don't forget, Dublin bus losing routes and BE losing even more because the NTA want to dismantle both of them and with private operators on the up an awful lot of people are worried about their jobs, so of course we're going to be very interested in moving over.

I don't know what'll happen in regards to this anyway but we'll wait and see !

Hilly Bill · 04-01-2019 1:08am

Stephen15 wrote: »

Are cleaning staff not employed by ISS not IE?

Yes.

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