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    #272
    SweetCaliber
    Registered Users Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    Those tests, the one with the letters, I couldn't finish but was concentrating on getting what I marked off right so hopefully that doesn't impact too much. Other ones were fine, the 30 question one made me go off my head!


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    #273
    khaldrogo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    In the initial questions about having any convictions etc it asks about colour blindness.

    I had to pass a colour blindness test 20 years ago in order to do my apprenticeship. Obviously I passed it.

    A couple of years ago I had another test as part of a general eye test and the optician said I had a touch of colour blindness. I've just done an online test now which I passed but some of the colours took me a while to get.

    How important would you think this might be???

    Obviously I can tell a red light from a green light so I'm not going to crash but I see different shades of brown as dark greens or dark purple.


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    #274
    Rootsblower
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Rootsblower


    khaldrogo wrote: »
    In the initial questions about having any convictions etc it asks about colour blindness.

    I had to pass a colour blindness test 20 years ago in order to do my apprenticeship. Obviously I passed it.

    A couple of years ago I had another test as part of a general eye test and the optician said I had a touch of colour blindness. I've just done an online test now which I passed but some of the colours took me a while to get.

    How important would you think this might be???

    Obviously I can tell a red light from a green light so I'm not going to crash but I see different shades of brown as dark greens or dark purple.

    Fail the colour blindness test at the medical stage(assuming you get that far) and it’s goodbye. The colour blindness test for drivers is very strict


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    #275
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    n!ghtmancometh wrote: »
    On the IE website itself, Dart is described as Dublin's electric rail system, system as in singular. No other area in the country has an electrified rail line, so the correct answer has to be one. They didn't ask about branch lines or anything else you are blathering on about to try and come across as superior.

    "The "Dublin Area Rapid Transit" is our only electrified rail line. From early morning to late at night, fast and frequent DART services operate along the Dublin coastline from Malahide and Howth in the North to Greystones in the South."

    Are you unable to count?

    I said there was one.

    You are trying to argue against me, by saying that there is one.


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    #276
    PirateShampoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Ran out of time on the RAAT got to question 25 or so. Found them a little hard to follow so kept double checking.

    The IR-LDSJT was handy enough doing the right thing and common sense.

    The mini Scaat I'm assuming it's impossible to finish the who page, or at least I didn't?

    Also I'm guessing it submits automatically when I finish all 3?


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    #277
    weadick
    Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭weadick


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Whatever happened to starting on the platform and working your way up? Sorry for asking.

    That would be great if anyone knew how to get that job...


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    #278
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,781 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Whatever happened to starting on the platform and working your way up? Sorry for asking.

    There aren't many entry level positions left to get staff from, the cleaning, security etc have been contracted out, manual gates are almost a thing of the past and there's been a recruitment freeze for years. There's a chronic shortage of drivers so it's sh1t or burst time.


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    #279
    Sterling Archer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Just having a look there, Looks like there application site crashed.. Woops


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    #280
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    There aren't many entry level positions left to get staff from, the cleaning, security etc have been contracted out, manual gates are almost a thing of the past and there's been a recruitment freeze for years. There's a chronic shortage of drivers so it's sh1t or burst time.

    There have been numerous gatekeeper positions advertised over the last 2/3 years. Many of the successful candidates have already progressed.

    They may be looking for more soon enough.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #281
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    There aren't many entry level positions left to get staff from, the cleaning, security etc have been contracted out, manual gates are almost a thing of the past and there's been a recruitment freeze for years. There's a chronic shortage of drivers so it's sh1t or burst time.

    There have been numerous gatekeeper positions advertised over the last 2/3 years. Many of the successful candidates have already progressed.

    They may be looking for more soon enough.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #282
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,781 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    There have been numerous gatekeeper positions advertised over the last 2/3 years. Many of the successful candidates have already progressed.

    They may be looking for more soon enough.

    Drop in the ocean.


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    #283
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Siptu issued something today to Irish rail in relation to external recruitment

    Don't be expecting jobs in a hurry here, this could cause delays

    Unsure if Nbru issued anything yet


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    #284
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    weadick wrote: »
    That would be great if anyone knew how to get that job...

    Apply for the summer staff roles, they are using them to back fill positions. You can then apply for any other positions that may take your fancy.


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    #285
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Siptu issued something today to Irish rail in relation to external recruitment

    Don't be expecting jobs in a hurry here, this could cause delays

    Unsure if Nbru issued anything yet

    They don't have a leg to stand on seeing that they had no issues with the hiring of summer staff even at the time of pay issues. The union did zilch then so why are they getting involved now? They are supposed to represent all members and not just drivers.


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    #286
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    They don't have a leg to stand on seeing that they had no issues with the hiring of summer staff even at the time of pay issues. The union did zilch then so why are they getting involved now? They are supposed to represent all members and not just drivers.

    Well according to their notice that's actually their issue

    They have stated on a documented I saw a little earlier that there is interest in the driver positions from Irish rail internal staff aswell as Dublin bus and bus Eireann staff.

    They said in their documented the positions should've been advertised first on the internal system before taking it public like they did just over two years ago when they only advertised these jobs withing CIE.

    So essentially they want it internal advertising, not public, yet.


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    #287
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Well according to their notice that's actually their issue

    They have stated on a documented I saw a little earlier that there is interest in the driver positions from Irish rail internal staff aswell as Dublin bus and bus Eireann staff.

    They said in their documented the positions should've been advertised first on the internal system before taking it public like they did just over two years ago when they only advertised these jobs withing CIE.

    So essentially they want it internal advertising, not public, yet.

    I thought there was interest within DB and BE alright but not IE.


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    #288
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Well according to their notice that's actually their issue

    They have stated on a documented I saw a little earlier that there is interest in the driver positions from Irish rail internal staff aswell as Dublin bus and bus Eireann staff.

    They said in their documented the positions should've been advertised first on the internal system before taking it public like they did just over two years ago when they only advertised these jobs withing CIE.

    So essentially they want it internal advertising, not public, yet.

    They can still apply for it. They already hired from within a while back and even advertised in Dublin bus and bus eireann. Some bus drivers have already expressed an interest in applying this time.


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    #289
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    I thought there was interest within DB and BE alright but not IE.

    Word got around that the people on platforms etc were told to go apply online for it too


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    #290
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Well according to their notice that's actually their issue

    They have stated on a documented I saw a little earlier that there is interest in the driver positions from Irish rail internal staff aswell as Dublin bus and bus Eireann staff.

    They said in their documented the positions should've been advertised first on the internal system before taking it public like they did just over two years ago when they only advertised these jobs withing CIE.

    So essentially they want it internal advertising, not public, yet.

    I'd say it's just a few moaning heads who have no desire to apply anyway but and the union is stupidly listening to them. It would be nice if they even bothered to send us out theses memos seeing that we pay the subs etc.


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    #291
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    They can still apply for it. They already hired from within a while back and even advertised in Dublin bus and bus eireann. Some bus drivers have already expressed an interest in applying this time.

    And many of us have applied for it online just incase

    But at the moment there's no option to apply via the internal channels which is the issue

    The unions are backing up saying we should be able to transfer across if suitable from the tests etc. So we should keep service status etc.

    This has not been advertised internally this time round and there seems to be an issue with getting answers from management


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    #292
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    I'd say it's just a few moaning heads who have no desire to apply anyway but and the union is stupidly listening to them. It would be nice if they even bothered to send us out theses memos seeing that we pay the subs etc.

    Well I got an email from my rep about it

    And no to be honest the ones moaning want to go, I'm moaning but did apply already online again just incase

    There's an awful lot of people that want out of BÉ and Dublin bus

    We could easily filll the 100 positions internally and people on internal would still be people left over


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    #293
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Word got around that the people on platforms etc were told to go apply online for it too

    They would have to do that anyway to get the tests done. Mind you, some can't drive a broom properly never mind doing a test. If they have an issue with the tests then they aren't suited to the job.


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    #294
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Well I got an email from my rep about it

    And no to be honest the ones moaning want to go, I'm moaning but did apply already online again just incase

    There's an awful lot of people that want out of BÉ and Dublin bus

    We could easily filll the 100 positions internally and people on internal would still be people left over

    Could you get 100 suitable and head screwed on drivers who won't spad on the first day driving and end up being stood down and put on a gate somewhere. The company needs new blood.


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    #295
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    They would have to do that anyway to get the tests done. Mind you, some can't drive a broom property never mind doing a test. If they have an issue with the tests then they aren't suited to the job.

    Are cleaning staff not employed by ISS not IE?


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    #296
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Is the progression level from bus to train driver good, most drivers I know of have only come from IE.

    BE and DB staff must be worried, much better talent outside CIE ;)


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    #297
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Are cleaning staff not employed by ISS not IE?

    Both staff do cleaning, ISS a better one at that....


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    #298
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    And many of us have applied for it online just incase

    But at the moment there's no option to apply via the internal channels which is the issue

    The unions are backing up saying we should be able to transfer across if suitable from the tests etc. So we should keep service status etc.

    This has not been advertised internally this time round and there seems to be an issue with getting answers from management

    It's not that much of a sought after job within Irish rail anymore,, the money is grand but you can't move for new rules and regulations. I've talked to a few drivers and they have all said the same thing, don't go for the driving. It's never interested me anyway. It seems to interest mainly the new staff and the bus drivers etc.


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    #299
    Paul_Mc1988
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Paul_Mc1988


    So is it 45k all in. Does your pension come out of this also?. Also is there overtime on occasion and if so is it paid on top of gross salary or included in it.

    Just asking as I'm above the 45k in my current job but this is somthing that really intrigues me but the financial side is holding me back a bit.


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    #300
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    It's not that much of a sought after job within Irish rail anymore,, the money is grand but you can't move for new rules and regulations. I've talked to a few drivers and they have all said the same thing, don't go for the driving. It's never interested me anyway. It seems to interest mainly the new staff and the bus drivers etc.

    We've an awful lot of new staff in both Dublin bus and bus Eireann, who funny enough also came from the "outside" just like I did when I was new.

    Plenty of level headed people in both companies.

    It may not be sought after in IE but in both bus companies an awful lot of people are happy to jump for it.

    The two bus companies aren't safe anymore don't forget, Dublin bus losing routes and BE losing even more because the NTA want to dismantle both of them and with private operators on the up an awful lot of people are worried about their jobs, so of course we're going to be very interested in moving over.

    I don't know what'll happen in regards to this anyway but we'll wait and see !


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    #301
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Are cleaning staff not employed by ISS not IE?

    Yes.


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