Healthcare assistant jailed for 11 years for rape of woman with Alzheimer's

One eyed Jack · 30-07-2020 12:29pm #1

It’s not often they get praise around here, but the Judge deserves credit for handing down an 11 year sentence in this case -

At the Criminal Courts of Justice, Mr Justice Paul McDermott described it as "an egregious breach of trust by a qualified and experienced healthcare worker".

He said he showed little or no insight of the effect on the victim and his expressed remorse lacked depth beyond verbalised regret.

Healthcare assistant jailed for 11 years for rape of woman with Alzheimer's

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 30-07-2020 12:31pm

11 is mild - should have gotten longer.

SEPT 23 1989 · 30-07-2020 1:15pm

The law would not have been involved if he did that to my mother

Atlantic Dawn · 30-07-2020 1:19pm

A married father of 4 no less.

KevRossi · 30-07-2020 1:21pm

Took only a few months to get to trial, should be used as a template for getting other serious offenders onto trial rather than having them walking the streets.

I agree with the above; he should have gotten a lot more time in prison.

jones · 30-07-2020 1:23pm

Absolute insanity i hope he gets a taste of his own medicine in prison

ratracer · 30-07-2020 1:24pm

KevRossi wrote: »

Took only a few months to get to trial, should be used as a template for getting other serious offenders onto trial rather than having them walking the streets.

I agree with the above; he should have gotten a lot more time in prison.

This has amazed me, that it was fully dealt with in a very short time frame. Normally you’d expect cases like this take years to get to court.
Hope he rots in jail the sick fúck!!

Danzy · 30-07-2020 1:25pm

Given the severity of his crime, why isn't he on a plane out of here, back home.

UDAWINNER · 30-07-2020 1:25pm

Not a fan of the death penalty, but I would apply to this scumbag.

suicide_circus · 30-07-2020 1:42pm

i'm flabbergasted at the speed at which the wheels of justice can turn, wtf like?

jam_mac_jam · 30-07-2020 1:43pm

Jesus christ. That is horrible. That poor woman

30-07-2020 1:44pm

Deported I hope after his release in about 3 years time.

Mrcaramelchoc · 30-07-2020 1:51pm

Danzy wrote: »

Given the severity of his crime, why isn't he on a plane out of here, back home.

Absolutely let him serve his time then him And his whole family on a plane and back to their country of origin.
Let daddy explain why they all had to leave.

suicide_circus · 30-07-2020 1:52pm

the children should not pay for the crimes of the father

Eric Cartman · 30-07-2020 2:45pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

the children should not pay for the crimes of the father

And the welfare state shouldnt have to pay to support the children of a man who is in prison and those kids arent irish citizens

Odhinn · 30-07-2020 2:50pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

And the welfare state shouldnt have to pay to support the children of a man who is in prison and those kids arent irish citizens

You believe in all prisoners children being discriminated against for the crimes of their parent?

You've a source for that claim?

suicide_circus · 30-07-2020 2:54pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

And the welfare state shouldnt have to pay to support the children of a man who is in prison and those kids arent irish citizens

do you know that the kids arent citizens?

30-07-2020 2:56pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

11 is mild - should have gotten longer.

Cage the animal for life.

Beechwoodspark · 30-07-2020 3:47pm

I often wonder what checks are done on ppl arriving into this country and work in the health system?

There’s been a long list of dodgy cases reported

Is it the case that if Joe Schmo arrives in from random country x, the garda check will only reveal past convictions in Ireland but no further details about his past in country X ?

If so that is truly shocking.

eviltwin · 30-07-2020 3:51pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I often wonder what checks are done on ppl arriving into this country and work in the health system?

There’s been a long list of dodgy cases reported

Is it the case that if Joe Schmo arrives in from random country x, the garda check will only reveal past convictions in Ireland but no further details about his past in country X ?

If so that is truly shocking.

Garda getting for anyone who has lived abroad is hit and miss. Same for Irish residents, you can only be vetted for something you have been convicted of. This guy has no criminal record but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t assaulted vulnerable people before.

Beechwoodspark · 30-07-2020 3:54pm

eviltwin wrote: »

Garda getting for anyone who has lived abroad is hit and miss. Same for Irish residents, you can only be vetted for something you have been convicted of. This guy has no criminal record but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t assaulted vulnerable people before.

So would the guards have said “yer man is from country x, lets investigate his criminal record there?”

Like is that what happens or do they just look at records from Ireland since they arrived here ?

This is critical to know

paw patrol · 30-07-2020 3:56pm

KevRossi wrote: »

Took only a few months to get to trial, should be used as a template for getting other serious offenders onto trial rather than having them walking the streets.

I agree with the above; he should have gotten a lot more time in prison.

is there any reason this case was done so quick. I know he pleaded guilty buy never seen on actioned this quick.

eviltwin · 30-07-2020 4:01pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

So would the guards have said “yer man is from country x, lets investigate his criminal record there?”

Like is that what happens or do they just look at records from Ireland since they arrived here ?

This is critical to know

You have to give all your previous addresses here and abroad and they check if you have a criminal record in those places but they can’t verify if you are being honest. If someone spent a year backpacking across Asia when they were 18 or spent a summer in Ibiza and don’t put it on the form how is anyone to know.

Ideally you don’t work until your vetting is complete but I know certain sectors will get you working while it’s in progress. But this person hasn’t a record so it’s moot anyway. 15 years in Ireland with a clean work history....of course he looks trust worthy

is_that_so · 30-07-2020 4:03pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The law would not have been involved if he did that to my mother

It would, at your trial!

WrenBoy · 30-07-2020 4:06pm

I'd struggle to think of a more helpless target than a 70+ year old woman with Alzheimers, makes me sick. Already in a bad situation plus now the isolation from friends and family due to social distancing/cocooning for the elderly. Makes me sick.

I hope this follows him for the rest of his life.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 30-07-2020 4:11pm

StackSteevens wrote: »

No doubt a (taxpayer-funded) appeal is on the way, probably on the basis that the sentence is much too harsh.

He can't - he pleasded guilty.

Cordell · 30-07-2020 4:15pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I often wonder what checks are done on ppl arriving into this country and work in the health system?

There’s been a long list of dodgy cases reported

Is it the case that if Joe Schmo arrives in from random country x, the garda check will only reveal past convictions in Ireland but no further details about his past in country X ?

If so that is truly shocking.

In this case county X I's say it's Nigeria. How relevant will be a clean record from Nigeria, Pakistan, India, Somalia and so on? Maybe he raped his grandma when he was 13, but even in Ireland such a conviction may no be kept on record.

stinkypinky · 30-07-2020 4:17pm

Doubt a lot of them are even using their real names

paw patrol · 30-07-2020 4:17pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

He can't - he pleasded guilty.

you can appeal the severity of the sentence if you pleaded guilty

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 30-07-2020 4:19pm

paw patrol wrote: »

you can appeal the severity of the sentence if you pleaded guilty

Did wonder about that - but he'd be unwise in that case. It's more likely to be increased.

marklazarcovic · 30-07-2020 4:25pm

he will never get work again when he gets out,no way i want to contribute to this mans dole, send him back where he came from permanently once hes served his sentence. no sympathy from me for people who abuse our hospitality by committing crimes against our citizens .

30-07-2020 5:06pm

Dr DB Anderson wrote: »

Not a chance. He'll just cry that his life is in danger back in whatever ****hole he left

Its something we shouldn't give a damn about. I have zero concern what happens to some scumbag rapist in his home country.

freshpopcorn · 30-07-2020 5:14pm

If I had a family member in that home I’d be very concerned about what could have being going on with that guy there.

One eyed Jack · 30-07-2020 5:20pm

Danzy wrote: »

Given the severity of his crime, why isn't he on a plane out of here, back home.

Just to be clear -

I started the thread because I thought the Judge deserved credit for the sentence he handed down in this particular case, as all too often complaints are made that sentencing for these types of crimes is considered too lenient.

When I started the thread, there was no mention of the perpetrators name in the article I quoted from the RTÉ website. My intent in starting the thread wasn’t just to fuel more shìte talk about migrants. There’s enough of those types of threads in CA already.

As an example of more Judges deserving credit where it’s due for sentencing for this type of crime, there’s another case today in the news where the perpetrator is appealing the length of his sentence where he was sentenced to 14 years -

Rapist Patrick Nevin appeals severity of 14-year sentence, DPP counter appeals

No bollocks talk about “sending him home”, because you can’t. Send him to hell for all I care. I don’t care whether or not the perpetrator in the case I started this thread with is or isn’t a migrant either. He could just as easily be born and bred Irish for all anyone knows or cares. I certainly didn’t care who or where he was from at the time when I made the thread and there was no mention of his name.

The more pertinent fact was that he committed a despicable act against another human being and was handed what I thought was a fair and appropriate sentence, although I do accept it’s a fair point that he should have gotten a longer sentence in this case. The point was more so that all too often Judges are perceived to hand down lenient sentences, and this one deserved to be highlighted and the Judge given credit for the length of the sentence in this particular case.

Edgware · 30-07-2020 6:50pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Deported I hope after his release in about 3 years time.

Deported? Not Irish so?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 30-07-2020 6:57pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

And the welfare state shouldnt have to pay to support the children of a man who is in prison and those kids arent irish citizens

Their father is a rapist which is hard enough but, yeah, let's punish them further. How do you know that they aren't citizens?

take everything · 30-07-2020 7:04pm

What the fcuk is wrong with people.
Beyond comprehension.

Bobblehats · 30-07-2020 7:15pm

stinkypinky wrote: »

Doubt a lot of them are even using their real names

They’re on the run from something alright ..

Pete Moss · 30-07-2020 7:27pm

This animal has worked in healthcare for 15 years. You'd have to wonder if it was the first act of this nature he has committed, or just the first time he was caught.

Rodney Bathgate · 30-07-2020 7:32pm

Please God this sick f**k will be deported back to whatever African country he is from upon release.

Rodney Bathgate · 30-07-2020 7:35pm

Dr DB Anderson wrote: »

Weird how RTE seem to be the only ones mentioning the rapist's name. Wonder will they remove it from the article?

This predatory animal has been named in the BBC article also. I’m actually surprised there is a BBC article at all given the non-Irish ethnicity.

Irishman80 · 30-07-2020 7:38pm

What will he serve? 5-8 years?

For raping a vulnerable, helpless 73-year old woman in a nursing home who he was in a position of care over.

OP, I think you just might be a modern day "liberal" if you think that's a harsh sentence.

Heckler · 30-07-2020 7:41pm

I have a 79 year old mother who is thankfully compos mentis and as healthy as a person of that age can be. The thought that someone could do the likes of that to someone like my mother but even more vulnerable is incomprehensible. The devastation on that poor woman is incalculable. 11 years is too little. The planet would be the better for his departure.

Spanish Eyes · 30-07-2020 7:45pm

In fairness, this has to be a sentence on the higher end of the scale. Thank you Judge.

There are many incidences of sexual assault, rape, and trauma for others where a suspended sentence is passed because of the age or whatever of the perpetrator.

Seems to me that male perpetrators are just absolved in the main. Looking at recent sentencing for these people.

bertiebomber · 30-07-2020 7:50pm

disgusting we need to seriously vet people entering our country to live among our people. No one pays for care ( & its not cheap ) for their elderly parent to be exposed to a migrant pervert. I cannot describe how awful i feel hearing about this incident. MSM seem to be ignoring it and not mentioning the fact that its a non national who did this.
Disgusting treacherous government & various NGO's vouching for these invaders.

Gael23 · 30-07-2020 7:51pm

Such a huge breach of trust. It had implications well across the residential care system

Irishman80 · 30-07-2020 7:52pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

In fairness, this has to be a sentence on the higher end of the scale. Thank you Judge.

There are many incidences of sexual assault, rape, and trauma for others where a suspended sentence is passed because of the age or whatever of the perpetrator.

Seems to me that male perpetrators are just absolved in the main. Looking at recent sentencing for these people.

The higher end of the scale in Ireland is life imprisonment. This scumbag will likely be out in 5 years.

StackSteevens · 30-07-2020 7:53pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

He can't - he pleasded guilty.

His appeal will be against the sentence - not the verdict!

bertiebomber · 30-07-2020 7:53pm

I visit care homes as a volunteer and the residents are as vulnerable as new born babies this is unfathomable the care home should also be held accountable for not vetting a sex offender.
I hope the family sue the carhome out of business thats the real problem care for profit ( no real care involved !!) Cut corners employ cheap immigrant perverts all for the profit . The carehome industry should be banned in ireland & people should be paid to look after their own people like we always did.

Spanish Eyes · 30-07-2020 7:59pm

Major claim incoming against the Nursing Home now. And rightly so. For once in my life I can agree with a claim for damages, well that's if the family take a case.

ClydeTallyBump · 30-07-2020 8:16pm

I was very surprised that he got 11 years. It is rare to see a convicted rapist get a sentence in this country in double figures. I applaud the judge even though I feel the sentence should be higher.

Hopefully stricter and tougher sentencing for rapists will become more common. Our justice system needs to less lenient regarding sex crimes.

I don't think the man's race should have much to do with the discussion. There are plenty of rapists in Ireland, both Irish born and non Irish born. We need to be discussing and educating everyone about rape and consent and making it very clear that rape will not be tolerated in our society.

I was also surprised to see that this case was dated April 2020. I had to stop and read it again.

Healthcare assistant jailed for 11 years for rape of woman with Alzheimer's

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