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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Oh, small Q, were the crowds always chanting "this is arkham-arkham!" or something else (I swear it wasn't "Miz is awesome! awesome!")
    Yup pretty sure it was. A few people I was talking to though, thought they were saying "this is gotham-gotham" so im not 100% sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    They did chant it in the Lazerus pit and it was explained/translated so i assume it wasn't english. But it sure sounded like that!

    Beating Bane in the manner he did was a bit naff. How did he get the upper hand? Why punching him in the mask. Since Nolan's ending the trilogy maybe they could've had Batman have to kill himself to stop Bane to save Gotham. Bane kinda whimpers out.

    Also a literal ticking timebomb to finish us off felt a bit off. Like i know Gotham was at stake but it didn't have as much payoff.

    I wonder if Levitt's storyline, if it was entirely left out, would the film have been better...How come they're spending the last film of a trilogy w/ the director building up this guy? Maybe it's just to expound on the notion of "symbol > man" that is the whole reason for Batman.

    I agree it was different to see Bale mope around the mansion for the first hour but it's not gripping me seeing him hobble around. 7 years of him sitting on his arse seems a bit of a quiet way to start the film.

    I'm nit picking really, i'm just trying to verbalise why I'm disappointed. It was still a very good film.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭caspa307


    i reckon nolan is buillding for a batman beyond film........also references to killer croc, deadshot, all were thrown in i really doubt that was the last unless he goes with .......robin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Nah, they'll be rebooting completely. They'll be going with a Justice League film. Only way they can do that is with Bruce Wayne Batman, which means reboot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Oh, small Q, were the crowds always chanting "this is arkham-arkham!" or something else (I swear it wasn't "Miz is awesome! awesome!")
    Yup pretty sure it was. A few people I was talking to though, thought they were saying "this is gotham-gotham" so im not 100% sure.

    Nope. Used to think this meself though.

    They're chanting (and this is a rough attempt at spelling) Deh-shay, deh-shay bah-sah-rah, bah-sah-rah. Loosely translated from Moroccan to English it would be rise, rises or to rise from something. Sounds like a mash up of Moroccan and Spanish in some parts though.

    Could very well be something they just made up on the spot though.

    They actually say it in the film you know....Bruce asks "what are they saying?" and hes told "its means rise".


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    ***Spoilers galore***

    I loved the ending, it was put together well.

    I didn't get the Dark Knight rises tag line before going to see it. But it makes sense now.

    The new characters were introduced quickly and were a huge part of the movie.

    Blake was introduced well in the movie. The bit where the cops blew the bridge out of gotham was really smart as it gave Blake the push to throw away his badge as he couldn't get Justice as part of the force. But we were shown he was smart, he was resourceful, he really believed in right and good. Considering this is the first time we see him i thought he was possibly the best character in the whole movie.

    Catwoman was the complete opposite of the whiney helpless Dawes character. I loved how she screwed Batman over but showed a conscience and ended up playing a key part in saving Gotham. She wanted a new start and gets it in the end.

    Bane was excellant. He was smart as well as brutal. The opeining scenes were brilliant and his line to the doctor wets up his character brilliantly.

    I don't have a problem with how he was "killed off" (the avengers for example
    Hulk just wiped the floor with Loki and it was pure comedy and more of a let down
    ) - once Batman beat him the first time his indestructible aura was gone, the fact it took a missile to take him out is pretty fine. I also liked that Cat Woman was the one to save Batman.

    I also liked how Batman got the better of him initially - first time round Batman got pummeled and broken. Next time round he out thought him and in a well shot fight scene even though bane is pummeling him again he completely focuses on the mask as its Bane's weakness. Also considering how Bane broke the Batmans mask first time around i thought it was another smart piece of the movie.

    Batman himself was really good. I liked the bit in the doctors where his joints are screwed. The mental anguish, the physical pain, the way he comes back time and time again. His interactions with the Brilliant Alfred and how it all leads to the ending. Excellent.

    The ending was really good. I loved everything about it, from the bit over the bay right through to the credits.

    Also the time flew!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    caspa307 wrote: »
    i reckon nolan is buillding for a batman beyond film........also references to killer croc, deadshot, all were thrown in i really doubt that was the last unless he goes with .......robin

    when was killer croc referenced ? i know people think the sniper during the shoot out scene before gordon enters the sewers is dead shot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,494 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I wasnt sure if Blake
    was going to be Robin or take over from Bruce Wayne as Batman

    Overall excellent end to Nolan's trilogy and I hope come Oscar time it is a nominee for best picture


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I wasnt sure if Blake
    was going to be Robin or take over from Bruce Wayne as Batman

    Overall excellent end to Nolan's trilogy and I hope come Oscar time it is a nominee for best picture
    my interpretation of it was that he was Robin all along, but just didnt wear the costume or use the name. He was the same character if you get what I mean. Is he not a bit "small" to play batman though?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    ricero wrote: »
    when was killer croc referenced ? i know people think the sniper during the shoot out scene before gordon enters the sewers is dead shot

    Was just a small thing. Bruce asks Blake shouldnt he be telling his superiors about what Gordons saying and he says "I did. Then they asked me about the giant alligators down there" or something like that


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    my interpretation of it was that he was Robin all along, but just didnt wear the costume or use the name. He was the same character if you get what I mean. Is he not a bit "small" to play batman though?

    I think we have to remember this was a trilogy ending movie, it wasn't meant to be made with another movie in mind.

    Throughout the movie Bruce showed he didn't trust people to take the technology he developed and use it for good. I think the ending was more about Bruce moving on and actually finding someone else he could entrust with the tools that in theory could be used by bad people (Like the way Bane got his hands on the hidden Wayne enterprise weaponry).

    Also as far as I know Robin did become Batman at one point in the comic books. He was also Nightwing, no reason he actually has to become The Batman, the tools were left for him to fight crime more so than wear Batmans costume.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Well it's hard to see it go anywhere from here anyway. I think it's left for us to interpret. I didn't actually gather that he was Robin while I was watching it last night. What with his name not being Dick Grayson and all. But yeah, Robin was Batman in the comics for a while. I do think it would be a bad move to start doing a franchise led by Robin though. Whoever were given that task would have to realise that it couldn't be as succesful. All hypothetically.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭caspa307


    ricero wrote: »
    when was killer croc referenced ? i know people think the sniper during the shoot out scene before gordon enters the sewers is dead shot


    pretty much 2 mins after that and if you look at the sniper in the quick shot he has bullets sewn in to the outfit the same way he does in the arkham city game, also during the stock exchange, did anyone catch how bane was wearing the brown leather jacket and red helmet was very similar to the red hood outfit


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    I think we have to remember this was a trilogy ending movie, it wasn't meant to be made with another movie in mind.
    In saying that, what about the JLA? There is big rumblings about a movie being made of that team ala the Avengers especially with man of steel out next year. Should a movie like that be made in 5-10 years, you'd wonder who would play Batman?

    But I suppose who knows, we might get a batman beyond type film in a few years with levitt as batman as if my memory is correct for those cartoons, that the batman was small and very agile in those cartoons. The emphasis was on speed and not strength, so levitt could play him fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Whoever plays Batman in the reboot that they're doing next, is going to play him in the Justice League movie. That is apparently what they're building towards, long term, if all goes according to plan. I'm pretty sure this has been talked about in the off-topic thread at some stage as well. Christopher Nolan was adamant he wanted nothing to do with the League.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭weareallmarks


    saw this on saturday night and was completely let down

    bane and his downton abbey voice, hathaway looked great but just tried to recreate pfeiffer....

    why did bane do all this? he ended up being a pussy. when wayne manor is sold are we meant to believe that it covered the debts of the company when they made such a big deal about the company losing half its money?

    bane says he was born in the dark when it was actually yer woman al ghul''s daughter?

    thats only the first half of the questions....it looked amazing, but nolan struggles with actual stories.....


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Just remembered the bat signal at the end. Was that done to imply Robin would be Batman in Nolans world or let Gordan/the audience know Wayne was okay (maybe both).


    why did bane do all this? he ended up being a pussy. when wayne manor is sold are we meant to believe that it covered the debts of the company when they made such a big deal about the company losing half its money?

    bane says he was born in the dark when it was actually yer woman al ghul''s daughter?

    Bane did all this for the girl. Even though he was thrown out of the league of shadows Talia went back to him. Also he is a pretty despicable bloke so he would have done for lols. He took pleasure in other people pain. Like the Joker before him.

    Who said Wayne manor was part of Wayne Enterprises. Would Bruce not have has his own money, assets outside the companies?

    bane said he was born in the dark Yes, he didn't say he was born in the Pit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭weareallmarks


    bane doing this for a girl? that makes him look like a pussy. he is meant to be a machine that was too badass for the league of shadows...

    they said the manor or its contents (cant remember) was used to pay off wayne enterprises debts. the leftovers for alfred...wouldnt be much left...

    killer croc was NOT referenced! they where talking about giant crocodiles in the sewers because that is a legend in new york...

    i thought it looked amazing, the characters looked great. the dialogue was far better than the dark knight. bane was great for the first half, everythng was strong for the first half then it went off a cliff. bane shouldnt do anything for a woman. the joker didnt in dark knight .... he did in the original (and best), but it was a better more believable make sense film.

    nuclear bombs shouldnt be banged off buildings.

    when bane reads out the speech gordon wrote, why didnt anyone say 'eh........that could have been written by anyone'?

    why does bane sound like he is from downton abbey?

    the last fight in the crowd of people looses intensity because of the amount of action...the first fight was brilliant!

    the bat flying thing looked like a beatle...

    i think i take my batman a bit too seriously...

    rant over......need valium ;)
    DM-ICE wrote: »
    Just remembered the bat signal at the end. Was that done to imply Robin would be Batman in Nolans world or let Gordan/the audience know Wayne was okay (maybe both).

    this is a good question....add it to the pile of questions...

    how did batman survive?

    how did the bomb not go off when he banged it off every building in gotham?

    why was bane a pussy?

    ok i must go now....


    Bane did all this for the girl. Even though he was thrown out of the league of shadows Talia went back to him. Also he is a pretty despicable bloke so he would have done for lols. He took pleasure in other people pain. Like the Joker before him.

    Who said Wayne manor was part of Wayne Enterprises. Would Bruce not have has his own money, assets outside the companies?

    bane said he was born in the dark Yes, he didn't say he was born in the Pit!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭caspa307


    bane doing this for a girl? that makes him look like a pussy. he is meant to be a machine that was too badass for the league of shadows...

    they said the manor or its contents (cant remember) was used to pay off wayne enterprises debts. the leftovers for alfred...wouldnt be much left...

    killer croc was NOT referenced! they where talking about giant crocodiles in the sewers because that is a legend in new york...

    i thought it looked amazing, the characters looked great. the dialogue was far better than the dark knight. bane was great for the first half, everythng was strong for the first half then it went off a cliff. bane shouldnt do anything for a woman. the joker didnt in dark knight .... he did in the original (and best), but it was a better more believable make sense film.

    nuclear bombs shouldnt be banged off buildings.

    when bane reads out the speech gordon wrote, why didnt anyone say 'eh........that could have been written by anyone'?

    why does bane sound like he is from downton abbey?

    the last fight in the crowd of people looses intensity because of the amount of action...the first fight was brilliant!

    the bat flying thing looked like a beatle...

    i think i take my batman a bit too seriously...

    rant over......need valium ;)

    In Batman #489, Killer Croc attacks a shopping mall. After delivering several blows to Croc, Batman is distracted by a glimpse of Bane Croc then grabs Batman and tries to break his back again. He fails, and Bane pits himself against Croc, breaking his arms. He is then put back into arkham.

    When Bane helps get Batman's rogues gallery out of Arkham in the knightfall saga, Croc goes after Bane. While in the sewers, he smells Bane and goes after him and the two fight each other atop a ledge.

    i too take the bat way to seriously;)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Loyalty doesn't make Bane a pussy, he was loyal to the person that saved him from the Pit. Well thats mytake on it anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,280 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    my interpretation of it was that he was Robin all along, but just didnt wear the costume or use the name. He was the same character if you get what I mean. Is he not a bit "small" to play batman though?

    I'd imagine that in whatever incarnation is coming next, if he's even used that is, he would become Nightwing rather than Robin or the new Batman. Batman's legacy has been immoratalised in his sacrifice for Gotham so becoming the new Batman wouldn't work in that sense. Taking on the mantle of Gotham's new protector as Nightwing would though and it would seem the logical choice in order to cover up his identity and real name (Robin), but then he goes by Blake as well so...

    Would've preferred that when he picked up the gear bag he would be acknowledged with a simple, "Thank you Mr. Grayson" rather than Robin. I get that it's a cheeky nod to when Nolan said there wouldn't be any Robin in the film, but still :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    Personally, I was disappointed with the film.

    Bane: His voice was distracting. His manner seemed odd - I was surprised after the fact that it was actually Tom Hardy doing the voice because, it all looked a bit David Prowse. At times it didn't look like the man on set was actually talking at all and that they'd add it all in Post. He was physically a match for Batman, but on-screen it didn't amount to much.

    Maybe because he comes from the reserve team of Batman Bad guys, it went against him. There just wasn't the hook. He had a hard task following Heath Ledger's Joker - every time he was on screen you were worried because he didn't seem to have a plan; there was no scheme, no method to the madness; it was madness for madness sake.

    Catwoman: An interesting character, that brought a lighter tone to the film. She was wily and able to play all sides of a situation to her advantage, able to unarm attackers in many ways - not just high-kicking. In the scene where the police track down the governer, how she manages to play the 'poor screaming girl taken hostage' to her advantage was really good.

    Blake: A really good character, fleshed out really quickly and you rooted for him through the film. He had the hope to get everyone through it and wasn't afraid to try to do the right thing - the moral compass of the film, if you will. The last scene of the film sets it up that if they wanted to, he could take over the mantle and I think it would be interesting.
    Definitely lost points for the 'Legal name' rubbish. Many groaned in the cinema at that.

    Batman: Apparently this was a Batman film, but he wasn't actually on-screen or doing Bat-things for about 75% of the film. And that 'batman' voice... honestly.

    Also, some things like the 'ticking time bomb' and flying the bomb out to sea (after clanging it around a few times) just didn't gel with the overall tone of Begins and Dark Knight.

    Visually, it was stunning, and the deserve to be applauded that (for the most part) they actually use hundreds of extras in a scene or create actual environments rather than tons of green screen and post-processing cut-and-paste of crowds.

    Audio, likewise, was excellent. Apart from the aforementioned 'Bane' voice mess up. The soundtrack from Hanz Zimmer really adds to the tone of the film.

    Overall, it was a poor relation to the previous two films. Which is strange because it was produced on a much bigger scale, but I think that the story and the bad guy just didn't measure up so it felt a little 'flat'.

    As a trilogy, it's a bit of a soft note to finish on, but it shouldn't take away from Nolan's amazing work on the Franchise. Playing it 'for real' was a master stroke and brought cartoon films out to the mainstream and accepted by a larger audience.

    I would agree with Chris Nolan's desire not to be associated with a Justice League film. It wouldn't be worth tarnishing himself with that. It certainly only seems like a grab by DC to get some of the Marvel cash that the Avengers are coining in.

    It's strange play (considering Dark Knight is one of the highest grossing films of all time), and may backfire spectacularly as they would weaken the strength of the Batman brand to try to give others a boost (Wonder Woman, etc.).

    We'll see how it all turns out after the Superman reboot in 2013.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


    Having now seen the film twice it definitely doesn't have the rewatch value of the Dark Knight(a movie I've watched atleast 100 times. Mimimum) although i absolutely loved it the first time, the second time alot of the flaws are far far more prominent.

    I loved Bane. I think he's was an absolutely menacing character for 90% of the film. Basically up until the final fight and its ultimate reveal. My only real gripes about the Movie, where the Miranda Tate character, who's motives and reveal where pretty obvious from the start. And lack of Batman in the middle of the film, also the lack of Alfred for the majority of the film was a disappointment for me, especially given Michael Caines wonderfully heartbreaking and honest performance.

    Christian Bale was excellent as was Anne Hathaway, and she definitely shut a lot of the internet comic book fanboys up. Who bitched and moaned about her not being sexy enough to be catwoman:pac:

    As a trilogy though, its now the greatest of All time ahead of Star Wars III-VI and LOTR in my honest opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Fcuking epic. A little slow at the start but once it got going it flew by. Probably the first 45 or so minutes were slow but the next two hours were brilliant.

    I didn't expect much from Bane considering he was never one of the big villains, but he was bad ass until his final scene. Someone was shouting at him earlyish in the film and I was already thinking "that's a bad idea". Shows how well they built him I guess.

    The ending was a little obvious, but nothing to complain about. You can't kill Batman off, he had to be alive even if he doesn't dawn the mask again.

    I really, really, really hope they don't do a reboot. We'll get the exact same story we have gotten several times already. Even if you need a new director and a new Batman, keep it going without a reboot. Still plenty of villains to get through. I'd accept Robin being included in future if it meant continuing the story. Keep Batman in his own universe. He doesn't fit with the likes of Superman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    A reboot is already been given the green light! script and everything!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    when is this reboot landing? Because i felt that the Spider-Man reboot was a few years too soon. Like Spider-Man 3 came out 5 years ago; Batman & Robin to Batman Begins was 8 years' difference.

    I REALLY hope it's not another bloody origin story. Please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    I wonder if we could apply this to the Batman Franchise.
    Kotaku.com wrote:
    For people over the age of 10, this year's Spider-Man movie re-boot seems to have emerged rather quickly. Wasn't it just a decade ago that we got the last "first" Spider-Man movie? It was.
    Well, technically, it's been 3,714 days, which is closer to 10 years and two months.

    I'd like to tell you when the next 10 Spider-Man re-boots will be:
    1.Spider-Man (re-reboot) - September 3, 2022
    2.Spider-Man (re-re-reboot) - November 3, 2032
    3.Spider-Man (re-re-re-reboot) - January 4, 2043
    4.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-reboot) - March 6, 2053
    5.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - May 7, 2063
    6.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - July 7, 2073
    7.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - September 7, 2083
    8.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - November 7, 2093
    9.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - January 9, 2104
    10.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - March 11, 2114

    The only thing more depressing than the prospect of there being 10 more Spider-Man movie re-boots is that I probably won't be alive to avoid seeing all of them.
    There is, of course, some hope. You noticed, I'm sure, that this re-boot happened way sooner than it needed to. Don't we usually go about 20 years between re-boots and re-makes? At least? We've gone 10 this time, which raises the possibility that maybe the Spider-Man movies will be released in the same in some sort of asymptotic, Xeno's Paradox-style quickening pace, each re-boot happening in half the amount of time as we had expected, regardless of how our expectations happened. If this is the case, the next reboot won't happen in 10 years (3,714 days, I mean). It'll happen in 5. The one after that will happen in 2 1/2 years. Etc.

    I present to you a schedule of the next 10 Spider-Man re-boots in what we can call the half-life method of movie reboots:
    1.Spider-Man (re-reboot) - August 3, 2017
    2.Spider-Man (re-re-reboot) - February 18, 2020
    3.Spider-Man (re-re-re-reboot) - May 28, 2021
    4.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-reboot) - January 16, 2022
    5.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - May 13, 2022
    6.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - July 11, 2022
    7.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - August 10, 2022
    8.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - August 25, 2022
    9.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - September 2, 2022
    10.Spider-Man (re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reboot) - September 6, 2022

    Oh, I can't stop that list there.
    The next one (the 12th reboot, including this year's) would be on September 8, 2022. The 13th reboot would be on September 9, 2022. So would the 14th, 15th and the rest of them, Spider-Man re-boots would begin to occur within the same hour, then within the same minute, then the same second. We'd wind up with some sort of Spider-Man movie singularity.

    Who's excited for more Spider-Man?
    Kotaku

    With any luck they'll kill the Justice League idea, too. Who else is there? Batman (cool in his own right - after recovering from Joel Schumacher); Superman (Big enough for his own franchise, and a certain level of coolness); Maybe Wonder Woman (meh?) ... Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, the Martian Manhunter. (who?, who?, oh yeah him, and who?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,494 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    when is this reboot landing? Because i felt that the Spider-Man reboot was a few years too soon. Like Spider-Man 3 came out 5 years ago; Batman & Robin to Batman Begins was 8 years' difference.

    I REALLY hope it's not another bloody origin story. Please!

    Way too soon to be talking about a reboot imo but whomever takes on the job of the Batman reboot/sequels (continuation after TDKR), they have tough boots to fill, Nolan's Batman trilogy is a masterpiece

    I would love to see Nolan in about 8 or 10 years time maybe came back with a second trilogy

    There is talk/rumours of Catwoman spin off with Hathaway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    that would be awful, not to mention lacking in continuity. Really hope it doesn't happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Any chance that Nolan continues with Batman completely separate from the Justice League? Let them have a different Batman if needed. I know Nolan said he was only doing the three but I'm sure he could be convinced to keep going.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Any chance that Nolan continues with Batman completely separate from the Justice League? Let them have a different Batman if needed. I know Nolan said he was only doing the three but I'm sure he could be convinced to keep going.

    I doubt it. I'd say he's told the batman story he wanted to tell and thats it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    no one should touch batman after nolan he has taken it to whole other level even though i'd like to see a film on arkham asylum


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    With any luck they'll kill the Justice League idea, too. Who else is there? Batman (cool in his own right - after recovering from Joel Schumacher); Superman (Big enough for his own franchise, and a certain level of coolness); Maybe Wonder Woman (meh?) ... Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, the Martian Manhunter. (who?, who?, oh yeah him, and who?)

    The appeal of a Justice League film would be Batman and Superman on the same screen, the rest would just be periphery characters (from the bigger names like Green Lantern and Flash down to the likes of Green Arrow). And for the money it'd be worth, they'd be crazy not to try and get Superman and Batman on the same screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    The appeal of a Justice League film would be Batman and Superman on the same screen, the rest would just be periphery characters (from the bigger names like Green Lantern and Flash down to the likes of Green Arrow). And for the money it'd be worth, they'd be crazy not to try and get Superman and Batman on the same screen.

    It might be just me, but I don't think Batman and Superman belong in the same universe. Batman doesn't really fit with any of them (at least the ones I know) but he's going to be forced in somehow anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    Just back from seeing it in manchester.

    Holy 90 foot high screen, batman! :eek: We are seriously missing out in this country by not having a proper imax screen.

    Heres a pic i snapped at the end of the movie:
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    I know it might not seem that big, but when you consider that there's 12 rows in front of me and that was taken with my back against the back wall, its pretty epic.
    It boosted the movie from an epic to a holymudderagawdwtf-epic! So that could be a bad thing and could cloud my judgement for how i found the movie overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    Saw TDKR earlier on,thought it was decent enough but definitely didn't live up to the hype for me,was basically the same as the first two films only slightly longer.So many ridiculous holes in the plot too,even for a superhero movie.

    Can't understand some of my mates who have seen it x3 times since release day and are still banging on about it.Warner Bros have a good marketing department I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Going to see it again over the weekend IN an imax screen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    cena wrote: »
    Going to see it again over the weekend IN an imax screen

    Awesome! :D
    What one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭cena


    CMpunked wrote: »
    Awesome! :D
    What one?

    In liverpool one in the odeon


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 280 ✭✭Yousef


    Finally seen this and have got to say that it will go down as the weakest Batman of Nolans' trilogy - batcopters? Can someone say korny...I literally burst out laughing in pity at the sight of it. You've only to have a look over on Metacritic to see the disappointment.

    But I got to say I'm on the fence with Bane. When I first heard about him being the bad guy I didn't really care. Listening more to people I wondered whether or not he just wouldn't have that personality draw that Ledger had as the Joker or perhaps that Ras had but he did what he could - the Joker and Heaths performance were big boots to fill but I liked his English accent and the character played. Apart from that though I didn't think there was much going character dept wise. I didnt care about any of them at all. For example, Anne Hathoway was great in that suit but why the f*ck was she wearing it? No backstory like the Batman returns. Robbin didn't do anything that impacted anybody in any way whatsoever. Why were Bane's people so willing to die for him? And how did Batman climb a wall with a broken back?

    Of course this is all fantasy comic book stuff but I just thought it could have been better put together from a couple of Batman freaks than Nolan and his brother. Wonder who will take the reigns now? Is Batman finished for a while? Nolan is anyway.

    Anyone considered that only Bane was the villian this time round? Usually there are at least 2...i.e - Ras and Liam, Joker and Harvey Dent. I wouldnt count Catwoman as they portrayed her as background character/lesbian thing. Should have had a strong Penguin or unstable Riddler for good measure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    cena wrote: »
    In liverpool one in the odeon

    If you can, book it soon and get the premium seats. They are literally the best seats in the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Saw it. Liked it. Though couple parts I was questioning. Miranda Tate was with Gordon and co when they were caught and when Batman meets Gordon on the ice, he asks where she is. But between the capture and the walking on ice, Bruce met her when getting Lucius so he knew where she was. Bad editing? Same as when the bomb truck was being chased. One second she's driving, the next she's a passenger then back driving again.

    And the reason Bane was willing to help her was because, he was her protector in the prison and she got him out, so they had a bond.

    Biggest shock of the movie: Jamie Reagan left New York!:D (I'm sure someone gets the reference)

    As for a Justice League, if they want Superman and Batman onscreen together, they should just do World's Finest, otherwise it'll take too long. Maybe bring in Wonder Woman for the Trinity. Bet they're kicking themselves now for preventing Whedon from doing the Wonder Woman movie.
    But I think Warners should give up on the idea of a Justice League movie and concentrate on what they do best with superheroes and that's the animated series. Get one big universe and get back to the days of Batman/Superman/JLU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Saw it. Liked it. Though couple parts I was questioning. Miranda Tate was with Gordon and co when they were caught and when Batman meets Gordon on the ice, he asks where she is. But between the capture and the walking on ice, Bruce met her when getting Lucius so he knew where she was. Bad editing? Same as when the bomb truck was being chased. One second she's driving, the next she's a passenger then back driving again.

    And the reason Bane was willing to help her was because, he was her protector in the prison and she got him out, so they had a bond.

    Biggest shock of the movie: Jamie Reagan left New York!:D (I'm sure someone gets the reference)

    As for a Justice League, if they want Superman and Batman onscreen together, they should just do World's Finest, otherwise it'll take too long. Maybe bring in Wonder Woman for the Trinity. Bet they're kicking themselves now for preventing Whedon from doing the Wonder Woman movie.
    But I think Warners should give up on the idea of a Justice League movie and concentrate on what they do best with superheroes and that's the animated series. Get one big universe and get back to the days of Batman/Superman/JLU

    Copped the exact same things. So little motivation for the characters. I would've cut out catwoman and Levitt altogether. And the whole bomb element annoyed me. From the exact timing of the meltdown and the whole bomb exploding oversea. I would've assumed thered be fallout. Still a great watch but in the vain of the avengers movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Yeah, same here in relation to the bomb. I just thought that whole disposal of it and sudden rush at the end was very reminiscent of The Avengers. I guess there's only so many ways they can magic away something like that though! But Catwoman was a bit too much of a babyface, so to speak for my liking also. I mean, I prefer her as a bad oul bitch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Africa


    Got to see it last night. I read through this thread and found a lot of things asked here are actually answered in the film, I advise going back and watching it again...

    Apart from Anne Hathaway, I thought it was awesome. Plenty of stand out moments. I always thought Bane was a secondary character but my god, it was very well done and he was genuinely awesome.

    Didnt like the Bat-thing. Thought that could have looked much better.

    But overall, very entertaining, and really enjoyed it. Hoping to see it again soon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭cocalolaman


    Brillaint film, but I'm not sure if it was better than the dark night. It was lacking something. Ledger as Joker was such a convincing villain. Tom Hardy was brilliant as Bane but I never really thought he was mentally as mad as The Joker. For example this scene (at 3:50) where Joker's getting the shít kicked out of him and he's just laughing. That's when I was thinking "This guy is truly mental." I didn't really feel like that for Bane throughout the film. Also his voice was a bit hard to understand at times. But when I did understand him he sounded like some mad scientist which was cool. Also Bane's death was a bit anticlimactic. I think Batman begins was the weakest of all of them though.

    Still well worth the money for the ticket.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Seriously didn't go into it wanting to pick holes or be a dry ****e.

    Thought it was decent enough but didn't live up to the hype. Can't complain about the acting but there were too many characters I didn't care about, weird editing and too much not explained/acknowledged. Not to mention people cheering a NUCLEAR BOMB exploding in front of them WTF? Wasn't done it a big and dumb way either just the film was just a wee bit ****. Seemed very phoned in by Nolan with very little detail work done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    went to see it tonight, you could fly a 747 through the plotholes, not a patch on the last film


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    rovert wrote: »
    Seriously didn't go into it wanting to pick holes or be a dry ****e.

    Thought it was decent enough but didn't live up to the hype. Can't complain about the acting but there were too many characters I didn't care about, weird editing and too much not explained/acknowledged. Not to mention people cheering a NUCLEAR BOMB exploding in front of them WTF? Wasn't done it a big and dumb way either just the film was just a wee bit ****. Seemed very phoned in by Nolan with very little detail work done.
    Did you even pay attention to the story?


    The film is a modern classic, but not the master piece that TDK was. And it did live up to the hype, and then some.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    went to see it tonight, you could fly a 747 through the plotholes, not a patch on the last film
    What plot holes exactly? Im interested to hear what plot holes there were, as I didnt notice anything major, but in saying that, I didnt over think the film.


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