Rammstein Megathread

senordingdong · 12-05-2020 2:10pm

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

40K is similar to most of the venues they are playing .
Milton Keynes only holds 30K ,Coventry would be similar.
They are in Cardiff 3 days before Belfast so its not that far a journey ,they just take the ferry .

I know but the costs of shipping a band and their stage to mainland UK can be spread over all the gigs they do there. There's usually only one such gig on this island to absorb all those costs.
Either way, we'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they had all this sussed out before they organised the tour.

vintagecosmos · 12-05-2020 4:33pm

Kind of a side note - but the logistics implications and costs around the tour are considerable. I think they have 3 teams on the go. Check out the time lapse here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgGuRKgvWQ4

senordingdong · 12-05-2020 9:16pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Lads, don't air your opinions about Belfast not being a great venue in the "Rammstein Belfast" thread. You'll be slaughtered for having an opinion :pac:

ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ I see what you mean!!

MetzgerMeister · 13-05-2020 12:52am

senordingdong wrote: »

&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834; I see what you mean!!

I live in Tipp, you'd swear they thought I was a Dub with the way they went at me.

senordingdong · 13-05-2020 9:14am

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I live in Tipp, you'd swear they thought I was a Dub with the way they went at me.

It's Belfast or bust

MetzgerMeister · 19-05-2020 3:17pm

Belfast gig rescheduled to 12.06.21 - 360 days after it was supposed to be on

Gavman84 · 19-05-2020 3:40pm

Ill take that! Now have to wait all over again :pac:

vintagecosmos · 19-05-2020 3:47pm

Just got the email. its on a Saturday now too which is dead handy. Although I may be out of pocket 50% of my current AirBnb unless their terms change.

MetzgerMeister · 19-05-2020 3:52pm

I just got an email from Eventim about the reschedule. "All tickets will remain valid for the rescheduled shows" .... yeah it'd be great if I actually had tickets :pac:

Flibble · 19-05-2020 4:16pm

I assume cancelled tickets will be made available for that soon... I'd love to pick up an extra Feuerzone ticket for the rescheduled date. I'm gonna keep my original but I can now bully my bf into going with me

Xenji · 19-05-2020 5:41pm

Ostend is now the last date of the tour leg, quite happy with that.

senordingdong · 19-05-2020 8:27pm

Gavman84 wrote: »

Ill take that! Now have to wait all over again :pac:

Ugh, it's depressing.
I remember the day I bought the tickets and thought to myself "it's bleed'n ages away"

Wrongway1985 · 21-05-2020 2:34pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I live in Tipp, you'd swear they thought I was a Dub with the way they went at me.

I'm also from Tipp too though and didn't share your views :pac:

Didn't have a ticket to the original show as I was due to be abroad but now I'd imagine it's on!

On the RDS talk, is it they couldn't half to blow up the place in around residential areas and such perhaps?

MetzgerMeister · 21-05-2020 2:43pm

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

I'm also from Tipp too though and didn't share your views :pac:

Didn't have a ticket to the original show as I was due to be abroad but now I'd imagine it's on!

On the RDS talk, is it they couldn't half to blow up the place in around residential areas and such perhaps?

You should have shared my views....poor you :pac:

I didn't hear any reason as to why they didn't book the RDS. I think the Aviva would be a great venue for it. Plenty of opportunity for cool photos of flames shooting up through the lovely design of it.

Boucher Road is somewhat a residential area but moreso commercial.

Mushy · 21-05-2020 8:20pm

While belfast may be better for gigs (to some people), I always find that crowds are far smaller than they would be if a gig was in Dublin, particularly on a large outdoor event with only one show on the island. This being switched from a Wednesday to a Saturday is a way for them to attract more people from further away to attend the show. Itll likely work too.

SureYWouldntYa · 22-05-2020 1:08am

For most of Ireland we have to put up with Dublin as the default location for a gig, be it 3 Arena or Malahide Castle or Marley Park, it’s just the way things are

Being from the north west its an approx 3 hours journey whether its Belfast or Dublin, bother either way and a necessary evil no matter what you do.

We always have to consider if the cost of a bus/train and a hostel if needs be are worth the gig in the grand scheme of things, which if you live in Dublin you dont have to consider

If all gigs we in Athlone most of the country would have a 1.5 hour journey or thereabouts, but the world aint perfect so the main location of Dublin is just automatically where it’s at for many reasons

So for once as a change, it’s funny to see Dubliners have to take travel into account when most of us have to do it naturally

vintagecosmos · 22-05-2020 3:04am

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

You should have shared my views....poor you :pac:

I didn't hear any reason as to why they didn't book the RDS. I think the Aviva would be a great venue for it. Plenty of opportunity for cool photos of flames shooting up through the lovely design of it.

Boucher Road is somewhat a residential area but moreso commercial.

At a complete guess, Id say margins come into it. Boucher road probably going for a song (see what I did there) compared to the Aviva and all the associated costs of policing etc.

MisterAnarchy · 22-05-2020 11:39am

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

You should have shared my views....poor you :pac:

I didn't hear any reason as to why they didn't book the RDS. I think the Aviva would be a great venue for it. Plenty of opportunity for cool photos of flames shooting up through the lovely design of it.

Boucher Road is somewhat a residential area but moreso commercial.

The Aviva is unavailable due to the European Championships .
Its too big a venue capacity wise anyway ,rental would be high .

The RDS was the obvious reason ,but Aiken is a bit of a cheapskate so went for Belfast .
There could be issues with the pyrotechnics ,they might be prohibited in the Republic.

MetzgerMeister · 22-05-2020 11:44am

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The Aviva is unavailable due to the European Championships .
Its too big a venue capacity wise anyway ,rental would be high .

The RDS was the obvious reason ,but Aiken is a bit of a cheapskate so went for Belfast .
There could be issues with the pyrotechnics ,they might be prohibited in the Republic.

They had a lot of pyro in the O2 back in 2012 though. Just thinking about it, I can't believe it's been over 8 years since that gig! Feels like it was a month ago.

Degag · 22-05-2020 11:02pm

I'd say cost has a big part to play in it. Probably why they play the likes of Milton Keynes and Coventry too.

They must have a huge production cost compared to most other bands.

MetzgerMeister · 25-05-2020 9:17am

Degag wrote: »

I'd say cost has a big part to play in it. Probably why they play the likes of Milton Keynes and Coventry too.

They must have a huge production cost compared to most other bands.

I think it was in an interview with Flake where he said they have to work very hard in order to make a living and the cost of the live shows is huge. For the tour last year they had 30+ trucks on the road. Metallica had (I think) 2 stages on the go so the next one was being set up while they were getting ready for/playing a gig. I don't think it's the same with Rammstein, I think they just have the one stage.

vintagecosmos · 25-05-2020 10:01am

Saw this on the logistics of the latest tour. Looks like they have 2 crews on the go with 60 trucks. Thats a lot of Diesel

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50 tons of equipment, 60 trucks: Rammstein's tour of superlatives
Update: June 17th . For Till Lindemann, the past concert in the Rostock Baltic Stadium was a real home game. Among other things, the Rammstein singer grew up in the city in Mecklekburg-Vorpommern. Before the show on Sunday (June 16) yesterday, the 56-year-old strolled through his old residential area with singer Marteria.

Next up is Rammstein in Denmark. Copenhagen is waiting for the boys on Wednesday (June 19) to travel through Europe with a superlative stage production. The band travels across the continent on two identical stages. During the show in one city, the other stage is set up at the next venue.

"It is one of the largest stages currently on the move," the band is quoted on the Facebook page "Rammstein Belgium". It is 24 meters wide, 15 meters high and impresses with a pure steel construction. The other numbers are tough too.

400 people work on setting up the stage every day. 100 loudspeakers are hung up. 50 tons of equipment are pulled up on 120 motors for each concert. The music system is a proud 380,000 watts. So you could still hear Rammstein in Dresden ten kilometers away.

60 trucks are required for each concert, which alone transport the accompanying power plants. "These are two megawatt units that pull around 1000 liters of diesel per show." These are required so that the electricity in the respective city does not run out during the Rammstein concerts.

"Most of the productions today look like television studios. Even the rock concerts. Ice cold. That's the way it works. But not at Rammstein," it says. And this gigantic production experience 30,000 to 50,000 people every time. Almost one million fans are expected at the 30 concerts of their stadium tour.

https://www.msl24.de/promis/rammstein-tour-2021-coronavirus-tickets-till-lindemann-europa-termine-11880734.html

MetzgerMeister · 25-05-2020 10:43am

Yeah....30+ trucks is right :pac:

vintagecosmos · 25-05-2020 1:50pm

ah i wasnt having a go. Just fascinated by the machine behind the band.

MetzgerMeister · 25-05-2020 2:39pm

vintagecosmos wrote: »

ah i wasnt having a go. Just fascinated by the machine behind the band.

I know, I was actually taking the piss out of my own previous post

I was slightly off with 30+ trucks hah

senordingdong · 25-05-2020 2:58pm

Doing the gigs this way, less gigs with more consolidated crowds must be better for them financially.

Lithium93_ · 01-03-2021 11:42am

Giving this a bump...

https://twitter.com/Loudwire/status/1366166289505468419

senordingdong · 01-03-2021 12:06pm

Well that's something to look forward to!

MetzgerMeister · 01-03-2021 12:23pm

We might even get 2 album tours in one at the Belfast gig if and when it happens!

Royale with Cheese · 01-03-2021 12:32pm

I saw them in Paris in 2019 just after the last album came out so would be happy enough to see some new songs on the setlist when they finally play Belfast.

Ash.J.Williams · 01-03-2021 12:34pm

vintagecosmos wrote: »

Saw this on the logistics of the latest tour. Looks like they have 2 crews on the go with 60 trucks. Thats a lot of Diesel -

50 tons of equipment, 60 trucks: Rammstein's tour of superlatives
Update: June 17th . For Till Lindemann, the past concert in the Rostock Baltic Stadium was a real home game. Among other things, the Rammstein singer grew up in the city in Mecklekburg-Vorpommern. Before the show on Sunday (June 16) yesterday, the 56-year-old strolled through his old residential area with singer Marteria.

Next up is Rammstein in Denmark. Copenhagen is waiting for the boys on Wednesday (June 19) to travel through Europe with a superlative stage production. The band travels across the continent on two identical stages. During the show in one city, the other stage is set up at the next venue.

"It is one of the largest stages currently on the move," the band is quoted on the Facebook page "Rammstein Belgium". It is 24 meters wide, 15 meters high and impresses with a pure steel construction. The other numbers are tough too.

400 people work on setting up the stage every day. 100 loudspeakers are hung up. 50 tons of equipment are pulled up on 120 motors for each concert. The music system is a proud 380,000 watts. So you could still hear Rammstein in Dresden ten kilometers away.

60 trucks are required for each concert, which alone transport the accompanying power plants. "These are two megawatt units that pull around 1000 liters of diesel per show." These are required so that the electricity in the respective city does not run out during the Rammstein concerts.

"Most of the productions today look like television studios. Even the rock concerts. Ice cold. That's the way it works. But not at Rammstein," it says. And this gigantic production experience 30,000 to 50,000 people every time. Almost one million fans are expected at the 30 concerts of their stadium tour.

https://www.msl24.de/promis/rammstein-tour-2021-coronavirus-tickets-till-lindemann-europa-termine-11880734.html

wow must be the loudest thing to hit Dresden since...maybe not....

senordingdong · 24-03-2021 3:03pm

Well, there's the official announcement we were all expecting.

vintagecosmos · 24-03-2021 3:10pm

senordingdong wrote: »

Well, there's the official announcement we were all expecting.

Disappointing, but not unexpected I suppose. Still tickets left for Cardiff but its a mid week gig...

gaming_needs90 · 24-03-2021 3:17pm

They really should organise a Dublin gig now.

Ash.J.Williams · 24-03-2021 3:18pm

gaming_needs90 wrote: »

They really should organise a Dublin gig now.

yeah best option

Royale with Cheese · 24-03-2021 3:27pm

Can't believe that, the only date on the entire tour cancelled. I was worried it would happen last time round, it didn't appear to sell very well. I think they'd shift more tickets in Dublin but there was obviously a reason they didn't go with Dublin in the first place, can't see it happening now.

senordingdong · 24-03-2021 3:36pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Can't believe that, the only date on the entire tour cancelled. I was worried it would happen last time round, it didn't appear to sell very well. I think they'd shift more tickets in Dublin but there was obviously a reason they didn't go with Dublin in the first place, can't see it happening now.

Iirc, eufa had the aviva booked.

If the soccer tournament goes ahead as planned, that will free up the above for 2022

Royale with Cheese · 24-03-2021 3:37pm

The Aviva would be too big for them here, the RDS would be more their size. Would the stage even fit there though.

MetzgerMeister · 24-03-2021 3:39pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

The Aviva would be too big for them here, the RDS would be more their size. Would the stage even fit there though.

With the way it's set up all the seating to the sides of the stage would be empty anyway.

They've more than likely grown in popularity since the 2012 gig too so maybe more ticket sales.

Jimmy Bottlehead · 24-03-2021 3:51pm

God fucking dammit.

MetzgerMeister, I'm looking at you as the resident guru... I had tickets for the Belfast gig Feuer Zone, so obv that's not happening.

You reckon they'll consider a Dublin gig?
And if not, is there any chance of getting Feuer Zone tickets elsewhere?

I'm gutted at this.

MetzgerMeister · 24-03-2021 3:55pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

God fucking dammit.

MetzgerMeister, I'm looking at you as the resident guru... I had tickets for the Belfast gig Feuer Zone, so obv that's not happening.

You reckon they'll consider a Dublin gig?
And if not, is there any chance of getting Feuer Zone tickets elsewhere?

I'm gutted at this.

I bought 6 Feuerzone tickets through LIFAD before general sale and I still haven't received them. Hopefully EventIM aren't as slow with the refunds.

It's hard to know what they'll do regarding another Irish gig. There must have been good reason for them to have chosen Belfast whether it's Brexit or whatever.

I haven't a clue about getting FZ tickets for other gigs. I haven't looked myself.

gaming_needs90 · 24-03-2021 3:56pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

God fucking dammit.

MetzgerMeister, I'm looking at you as the resident guru... I had tickets for the Belfast gig Feuer Zone, so obv that's not happening.

You reckon they'll consider a Dublin gig?
And if not, is there any chance of getting Feuer Zone tickets elsewhere?

I'm gutted at this.

I have 5 feuerzone tickets alright.

I'd say little to no chance myself. As I posted on the other thread;

The best thing would be for a Dublin gig before the UK dates as that would mean just one load of checks going into the UK. I don't think this would work either come to think of it as these heavy trucks would need to pass through the UK mainland, thus requiring big checks. God, this has ramifications for a whole host of big shows in the years to come

EDIT: If anyone knows anyone in Aiken promotions, they will probably know the real reason behind this and also any plans to reschedule.

senordingdong · 24-03-2021 3:57pm

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I bought 6 Feuerzone tickets through LIFAD before general sale and I still haven't received them. Hopefully EventIM aren't as slow with the refunds.

Christ.
Now the torture of getting a refund from Ticketmaster...

Furious-Red · 26-03-2021 4:36pm

If they played Dublin instead of Belfast could they still not go from the UK to Belfast then drive the trucks down to Dublin and back to avoid the extra checks etc?

Alkers · 26-03-2021 6:21pm

Furious-Red wrote: »

If they played Dublin instead of Belfast could they still not go from the UK to Belfast then drive the trucks down to Dublin and back to avoid the extra checks etc?

But sure they'll have the checks going into the UK from the EU anyway so it wouldn't make any difference if they go to Dublin at all. I'd say the Belfast gig just didn't sell well so they pulled the plug

Degag · 26-03-2021 10:19pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

The Aviva would be too big for them here, the RDS would be more their size. Would the stage even fit there though.

I don't know. Like i guess they could garner a crowd of 25000-40000 here? At the lower end of that then ya Aviva might be too big but the higher end it would be pretty perfect due to the amount of space their stage would take up.

I'd bet towards the higher figure too. People will be mad for tickets to gigs when all this is over!!!

Ash.J.Williams · 26-03-2021 10:34pm

They’d easily do well in the aviva

senordingdong · 26-03-2021 10:59pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

They’d easily do well in the aviva

Wikipedia claims aviva holds 65k for concerts. I presume the huge Rammstein stage would shave a few extra seats off that but I still don't see them getting close to that here.

3arena for example is supposed to be 13k and it is still debated whether they sold that out or not

Jofspring · 26-03-2021 11:01pm

Marley Park would surely be ideal size wise?

Ash.J.Williams · 26-03-2021 11:52pm

senordingdong wrote: »

Wikipedia claims aviva holds 65k for concerts. I presume the huge Rammstein stage would shave a few extra seats off that but I still don't see them getting close to that here.

3arena for example is supposed to be 13k and it is still debated whether they sold that out or not

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