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  • #102
    metricspaces
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭metricspaces


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    well no box is going to be 100% secure. you can open any one of them with an angle grinder. you can only ensure that they are secure enough to deter a thief. ow much effort will a thief put in if they don't even know what they are robbing?

    They can all be open with an angle grinder. So it's not a meaningful way of comparing how secure they are.

    I would consider it at the level of whether someone can open merely by using their hands or some small tool to activate the mechanism that would not alert people near by.

    Based on this, I would see the An Post DeliveryBox as more secure as you need a key to open it.


  • #103
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    metricspaces wrote: »
    They can all be open with an angle grinder. So it's not a meaningful way of comparing how secure they are.

    I would consider it at the level of whether someone can open merely by using their hands or some small tool to activate the mechanism that would not alert people near by.

    Based on this, I would see the An Post DeliveryBox as more secure as you need a key to open it.

    with the one I linked to i cannot see how a thief could use their hands or a tool to gain access to the parcels inside.


  • #104
    grattanoh
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭grattanoh


    metricspaces wrote: »
    They can all be open with an angle grinder. So it's not a meaningful way of comparing how secure they are.

    I would consider it at the level of whether someone can open merely by using their hands or some small tool to activate the mechanism that would not alert people near by.

    Based on this, I would see the An Post DeliveryBox as more secure as you need a key to open it.

    The one on done deal requires a key too. It also has four bolts which go into the ground. An Posts one would be a lot easier to pry off a wall. Also I have seen An Posts secured to wooden fences which would make it very easy to remove with a nail bar. When it is fixed with small screws it doesn’t matter matter how many keys you need to open it!!


  • #105
    metricspaces
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭metricspaces


    grattanoh wrote: »
    The one on done deal requires a key too.

    It doesn't require a key to place a parcel in it. The only way to add a parcel to An Post box is with a key.

    Regards pulling the entire box off the wall. It's the same as I mentioned before - it depends what criteria you apply to comparing security. If someone wants your mail box they will get it regardless of whether it is screwed or bolted. ATM machines are robbed :)

    I would say there is much more risk from someone being able to use their hands or a small tool to activate the mechanism to open the delivery box. As it can be easily done without drawing too much attention. When you can only open the box with a key, then the risk is lower here.


  • #106
    grattanoh
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭grattanoh


    metricspaces wrote: »
    It doesn't require a key to place a parcel in it. The only way to add a parcel to An Post box is with a key.

    Regards pulling the entire box off the wall. It's the same as I mentioned before - it depends what criteria you apply to comparing security. If someone wants your mail box they will get it regardless of whether it is screwed or bolted. ATM machines are robbed :)

    I would say there is much more risk from someone being able to use their hands or a small tool to activate the mechanism to open the delivery box. As it can be easily done without drawing too much attention. When you can only open the box with a key, then the risk is lower here.

    Well I agree with you regarding the security and that anything can essentially be stolen.
    Where I disagree is that An Posts box matches the benefits of the other residential post boxes. An post should have designed their product so that anyone could could leave packages and letters in it as opposed to trying to isolate the market. They have now effectively left themselves with a product that is outdated and doesn’t achieve the needs of online shoppers.
    If even one time I buy a product that is not delivered by An Post, my mailbox is not serving its purpose. If my residential mail box can accept all suitably sized packages then it serves a much better function.
    An Post needs to redesign their product so that it caters for the full online shopping market. Until then there will be a growth in the sale of alternative post boxes and the reported decline of sales in An Posts box will continue.


  • #107
    metricspaces
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭metricspaces


    Yes for someone who wants their mailbox to be used by all delivery people (An Post and other couriers) then the An Post mail box does not satisfy all their needs.

    For someone who is happy to deal with deliveries from couriers separately (either be there to accept, or rearrange time\location, or use Parcel Motel etc.), then An Post delivery box is more favorable as it is more secure than alternative boxes because it requires a key to open it.


  • #108
    54and56
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    grattanoh wrote: »
    90% of the delivery drivers that leave packages at my house don’t require a signature. If I’m not there to collect it they either ring to ask if they can leave it in the green bin or leave a collection slip.

    Same here. There are regular drivers from DHL, DPD etc which I've established a relationship with and will typically leave parcels for me tucked behind a flower pot at my front door without any signature required.

    I think it helps that having done it a few times it's never bitten them on the ass with me querying a delivery. It also helps that I have a Nest Doorbell which allows me to see and speak to delivery drivers or postmen when they ring the bell and ask them to leave the package for me.

    It also records my front door area 24/7 and stores 5 days worth of footage online in HD quality so if necessary I can look back and see if some scumbag has stolen a package that was left for me.


  • #109
    funnystory
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭funnystory


    Hi Guys,

    How long it takes to get "Delivery Box", I hand delivered my application form and fee at GPO last Monday?


  • #110
    Spocker
    Moderators Posts: 6,871 ✭✭✭Spocker


    Five working days after payment is processed: https://www.anpost.com/Post-Parcels/Receiving/Home-Delivery-Box


  • #111
    shaveAbullock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    I hope it's ok to resurrect an old thread.
    I got a home delivery box over 2 years ago and it had been great.
    But in the the last few months I don't get the email notification until after midnight. Previously it I would always get the notification 30 mins after the postman left.

    Have other had the same problem?


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  • #112
    silver2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    shaveAbullock wrote: »
    I hope it's ok to resurrect an old thread.
    I got a home delivery box over 2 years ago and it had been great.
    But in the the last few months I don't get the email notification until after midnight. Previously it I would always get the notification 30 mins after the postman left.

    Have other had the same problem?

    I get notification anytime from 8pm to about 12.30am these days. Its down to volumes and depends on when your parcel gets sorted. The new parcel hub in Dublin is automated and only needs a few pairs of eye on it to ensure it operates smoothly whereas before it was manual and they finished around 11pm, now it goes 24/7


  • #113
    shaveAbullock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    I live in North Tipp and my sorting office is Portlaoise.

    How does it work? The postman scans the barcode on the box and then uploads it when he gets back to the post office?
    Can't the message be sent at that stage? There is no tracking involved it's simply a message that something has been left in the box.
    Would the sorting office in Portlaoise have to approve the message?


  • #114
    Truckermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    shaveAbullock wrote: »
    I live in North Tipp and my sorting office is Portlaoise.

    How does it work? The postman scans the barcode on the box and then uploads it when he gets back to the post office?
    Can't the message be sent at that stage? There is no tracking involved it's simply a message that something has been left in the box.
    Would the sorting office in Portlaoise have to approve the message?

    I used to get the message seconds after the post arrived but it's nearly midnight now..


  • #115
    shaveAbullock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    It was always at least 15 minutes for me but that was adequate. Now 8pm is early even though the latest delivery I get is actually 14:30.
    I don't understand how this is an issue at the sorting office.


  • #116
    Truckermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    shaveAbullock wrote: »
    It was always at least 15 minutes for me but that was adequate.
    I don't understand how this is an issue at the sorting office.

    It's not as whoever said that thinks your talking about something else I'd say...


  • #117
    shaveAbullock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    But they too talk about getting notifications from 8pm to 0:30am, which is the time frame for delivery notification these days.


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