Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

Gatling · 23-06-2019 2:30am

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Ah yes the Mujahadeen, great bunch of lads. The photo of Brzezinski

The photo was well and truly debunked,keep quoting fake **** .

Didn't that great bunch of lads take on and defeat the Russians who well and truly retreated with tails firmly between their legs,

smurfjed · 23-06-2019 3:24pm

Are you popping in here to defend Saudi Arabia?

Defend them against what?

It's not tolerated as far as I'm aware there is no other religious places of worship any where in Saudi

Sure they are!

I'm fairly sure there are that the shia population are treated like ****e however.

true

Jimmy Garlic · 23-06-2019 4:56pm

Gatling wrote: »

The photo was well and truly debunked,keep quoting fake **** .

Didn't that great bunch of lads take on and defeat the Russians who well and truly retreated with tails firmly between their legs,

My apologies gatling, you are right about the photo. It was an officer of the Pakistani army inspecting arms enroute to the Mujahadeen with Brezinzinski. I can admit my mistakes, unlike you. Operation Cyclone, the destruction of what was a secular Muslim country at the time to be replaced with a bunch of headchoppers, how many times has the US done that now Gatling?

Gatling · 23-06-2019 6:04pm

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

the destruction of what was a secular Muslim country

By russia they bombed the country back to the stone age they purposely massacred villages and operating a scorched earth policy , bringing communism to the forward looking Western style country of Afghanistan.

And here you are let's blame America

specky4eyes · 23-06-2019 6:08pm

Trumps adviser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUSwARCMkPE

its_steve116 · 23-06-2019 6:33pm

The Z-lister Donald J. Trump lies yet again.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 23-06-2019 7:30pm

Gatling wrote: »

By russia they bombed the country back to the stone age they purposely massacred villages and operating a scorched earth policy , bringing communism to the forward looking Western style country of Afghanistan.

And here you are let's blame America

Just curious, when it suits your narrative, do you make any comparison between a forward looking Iran which was backed by the West, but which was subject to massive corruption, cronyism and political suppression, all of which resulted because of Western manipulation of Iran most famously expressed in Operation Ajax and the resultant Iranian revolution which rejected Western intervention and now has Iran seriously paranoid of any Western attempt to corral it, and the Mujahideen which were backed to the hilt by the West and which ultimately resulted in a conservative, Muslim fundamentalist Afghanistan which destroyed centuries old works of art, suppressed women, massacred anyone who stood in their way and eventually supported Al-Qaeda to destroy the Twin Towers and take over 1,500 lives on 9/11?

Odhinn · 23-06-2019 7:41pm

Gatling wrote: »

The photo was well and truly debunked,keep quoting fake **** .

Didn't that great bunch of lads take on and defeat the Russians who well and truly retreated with tails firmly between their legs,

....while warning that there should be a negotiated agreement rather than a unilateral withdrawal, given the militant nature of some of the resistance groups. A hawk in the reagan administration at the time (Richard Perle, I think) said to them "Let freedom take care of itself". Not long after freedom had taken care of itself with the Taleban outfighting the other factions and taking control of the state.

archer22 · 23-06-2019 8:25pm

That Bolton geezer looks and sounds like a f**king nonce.

Odhinn · 23-06-2019 8:36pm

archer22 wrote: »

That Bolton geezer looks and sounds like a f**king nonce.

He's a dangerous malignant individual who quite genuinely wants a war with Iran.

archer22 · 23-06-2019 8:40pm

Odhinn wrote: »

He's a dangerous malignant individual who quite genuinely wants a war with Iran.

Just a question..did he actually get elected or is he just part of the permanent neocon furniture around capitol hill?

Odhinn · 23-06-2019 8:43pm

archer22 wrote: »

Just a question..did he actually get elected or is he just part of the permanent neocon furniture around capitol hill?

Neocon furniture, alas. Featured quite prominently in the Bush Jr regime, but evidently that doesn't discredit him in the eyes of the current fuckwit incumbent of the oval office. He is, quite literally, a war monger.

The Late Late Show · 23-06-2019 8:43pm

Odhinn wrote: »

He's a dangerous malignant individual who quite genuinely wants a war with Iran.

Bolton is a danger. I cannot help but feel that that Commander Fred in The Handmaid's Tale graphic novel is based on Bolton. The Handmaid's Tale is the ONLY place Bolton should be: sadly, Margaret Atwood didn't make him up and he is real!!

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 23-06-2019 8:51pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Bolton is a danger. I cannot help but feel that that Commander Fred in The Handmaid's Tale graphic novel is based on Bolton. The Handmaid's Tale is the ONLY place Bolton should be: sadly, Margaret Atwood didn't make him up and he is real!!

Late Late Show posts, mentions Handmaid's Tale = TAKE A DRINK!

The Late Late Show · 23-06-2019 8:54pm

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Late Late Show posts, mentions Handmaid's Tale = TAKE A DRINK!

Cider and wine = blessed be the fruit!

A drink of wine and now going to watch The Handmaid's Tale = not a bad idea.

Odhinn · 23-06-2019 8:55pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Bolton is a danger. I cannot help but feel that that Commander Fred in The Handmaid's Tale graphic novel is based on Bolton. The Handmaid's Tale is the ONLY place Bolton should be: sadly, Margaret Atwood didn't make him up and he is real!!

O there's been others just as bad. Richard Perle, Paul wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams Donald Rumsfeld, Dough Feith etc. It's actually terrifying how these creatures get access to power.

Hedgelayer · 23-06-2019 8:56pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Bolton is a danger. I cannot help but feel that that Commander Fred in The Handmaid's Tale graphic novel is based on Bolton. The Handmaid's Tale is the ONLY place Bolton should be: sadly, Margaret Atwood didn't make him up and he is real!!

Bolton reminds me of a character in the board game "guess who" he's been wanting to Go to war with Iran since his first moustache..

nacho libre · 23-06-2019 9:32pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Neocon furniture, alas. Featured quite prominently in the Bush Jr regime, but evidently that doesn't discredit him in the eyes of the current fuckwit incumbent of the oval office. He is, quite literally, a war monger.

I would not be one for praising Donald too often, but he has disrupted Bolton's plans for the time being, but I fear Bolton will eventually get his way

Gatling, what is your opinion of John Bolton? Can you give a direct answer, or will you jump through hoops as usual;)

Gatling · 23-06-2019 9:51pm

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Muslim fundamentalist Afghanistan which destroyed centuries old works of art, suppressed women, massacred anyone who stood in their way and eventually supported Al-Qaeda to destroy the Twin Towers and take over 1,500 lives on 9/11?

Who were the only country who wanted and eventually did go in and remove the said Taliban ..

Answers on a postcard.

- remind newly registered what was your last account

Gringo180 · 23-06-2019 9:52pm

specky4eyes wrote: »

Trumps adviser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUSwARCMkPE

Lol.

John Bolton should be hanged for crimes against humanity.

Has he ever served any time in the military?

janfebmar · 23-06-2019 9:55pm

"Muslim fundamentalist Afghanistan which destroyed centuries old works of art, suppressed women, massacred anyone who stood in their way and eventually supported Al-Qaeda to destroy the Twin Towers and take over 1,500 lives on 9/11?"

Gatling wrote: »

Who were the only country who wanted and eventually did go in and remove the said Taliban ..

Answers on a postcard.

USA, with help from her allies like the UK. Fair play to them. They are by no means perfect but the world would be poorer without them.

Gatling · 23-06-2019 10:03pm

nacho libre wrote: »

Gatling, what is your opinion of John Bolton? Can you give a direct answer, or will you jump through hoops as usual;)

Bolton should have accidentally driven his car off a road and died a long time ago ,
He is more dangerous than trump and likely has more sway than Donald behind the scenes and knows the game a lot better too ,

Iran shooting down the drown has brought us into a very tight game of high stakes poker ( ship attacks and downing a drone ) in international waters has brought them to the brink either they go all in and try to bluff America in the hope they will be powerless to stop Iran or Bolton and go all in and decide Iran is going to be hammered .

Iran has the ability to cause big problems in Iraq for the states multiple heavily armed militias only loyal to Iran who would happily be involved in a new insurgency iraq not for the first time either with the support of several hardliners inside the Iraq government,
It's very highly likely Israel will hit Iran in support of America ,can Iran fight on multiple fronts and maintain the upper hand I personally do see them winning out .

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 23-06-2019 10:35pm

Gatling wrote: »

Who were the only country who wanted and eventually did go in and remove the said Taliban ..

Answers on a postcard.

- remind newly registered what was your last account

Removed Taliban? Remind me again which country has been trying to make deals with said Taliban in order to extricate themselves from a never ending conflict? While you're at it, remind us which country put the Taliban there in the first place.

Gatling · 23-06-2019 11:07pm

Steyr 556 wrote: »

While you're at it, remind us which country put the Taliban there in the first place.

Pakistan

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 23-06-2019 11:15pm

Gatling wrote: »

Pakistan

Obtuse response is hilarious.

specky4eyes · 24-06-2019 2:08pm

Gatling wrote: »

Who were the only country who wanted and eventually did go in and remove the said Taliban ..

Answers on a postcard.

- remind newly registered what was your last account

Are you talking about the same Taliban that the US are having peace talks with so they can leave Afghanistan without losing face?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-talks/u-s-taliban-aim-to-firm-up-date-for-foreign-force-exit-from-afghanistan-idUSKCN1TP186

Khalilzad, an Afghan-born American diplomat has been leading the talks to secure a political settlement with the hardline Islamist group that now controls more Afghan territory than at any time since being toppled in 2001 by U.S.-led forces.

Yea they really put the Taliban in their place.:pac::pac::pac:

specky4eyes · 24-06-2019 2:10pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Lol.

John Bolton should be hanged for crimes against humanity.

Has he ever served any time in the military?

Him and Pompeo should be sent in first, dirty animals.

specky4eyes · 24-06-2019 2:18pm

Gatling wrote: »

Pakistan

Washington supported and armed the Taliban
Ronald Reagen invited the Taliban to the White House in 1985. Jimmy Carter supplied Jihad with Stinger rockets and US dollars.

https://ivarfjeld.com/2011/05/14/washington-supported-and-armed-the-taliban/

They even sent Rambo in to aid Osama........:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCNZN3v2l0

Cheerful Spring2 · 24-06-2019 2:31pm

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-06-24/uk-could-join-us-in-assault-on-iran-jeremy-hunt-says/

jeremy Hunt has said Britain would consider joining the US in military action against Iran.

Tensions between the US and Iran have increased in recent weeks after the downing of an American drone and claims by Washington that Tehran was behind attacks on oil tankers in the Persian Gulf.

The Foreign Secretary’s comments came as his department minister Andrew Murrison held talks with the Tehran government at the weekend where he said he was “clear” about the UK’s concerns over Iran’s activities.

It not a surprise to most people, just another sign the UK imperalist ways will never change. They love destroying countries, in the middle east. They done a great job in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen they are now signing up for another war against Iran and its allies.

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-06-2019 2:42pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

jeremy Hunt has said Britain would consider joining the US in military action against Iran.

Already are, the weekend tabloids report they have their special boat people hanging out with the Seals doing mini-sub scuba in the warm sunny waters.

Meanwhile any guesses for the gold spot price?
$1,750 <3mths me thinks. Hits a 6yr high today 1,407 (+8.8% 30days).

Crude/Brent is still low overall, but that may oversupply already, and subject to change.

The Late Late Show · 24-06-2019 2:48pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-06-24/uk-could-join-us-in-assault-on-iran-jeremy-hunt-says/

jeremy Hunt has said Britain would consider joining the US in military action against Iran.

Tensions between the US and Iran have increased in recent weeks after the downing of an American drone and claims by Washington that Tehran was behind attacks on oil tankers in the Persian Gulf.

The Foreign Secretary’s comments came as his department minister Andrew Murrison held talks with the Tehran government at the weekend where he said he was “clear” about the UK’s concerns over Iran’s activities.

It not a surprise to most people, just another sign the UK imperalist ways will never change. They love destroying countries, in the middle east. They done a great job in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen they are now signing up for another war against Iran and its allies.

Jeremy Hunt would NOT be a good UK PM that is for certain. 'The Republic of Gilead' and its imperialism will always be able to justify its acts when it gets British politicians like him to back them up in a bid to try and revive their own imperialism too. Beware of the evil that is being forced on the world by unelected idiots like John Bolton and now possibly Hunt.

Cheerful Spring2 · 24-06-2019 2:53pm

Uriah Petite Slowpoke wrote: »

Already are, the weekend tabloids report they have their special boat people hanging out with the Seals doing mini-sub scuba in the warm sunny waters.

Meanwhile any guesses for the gold spot price?
$1,750 <3mths me thinks. Hits a 6yr high today 1,407 (+8.8% 30days).

Crude/Brent is still low overall, but that may oversupply already, and subject to change.

Likely true, low key training operations happen all the time. Still Uk would have to boost numbers of soldiers in the region to fight. More warships and planes will need to be send to bases and the persian gulf.

Madness there even considering a war against Iran. Let the US fights it own battles. Trump dummy decdision to pull of an agreed Iran nuclear deal caused this, but UK are dummies too they think we always have to fight the brown people in the middle east when they fight back and don't bow down to us.

The Late Late Show · 24-06-2019 2:56pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Likely true, low key training operations happen all the time. Still Uk would have to boost numbers of soldiers in the region to fight. More warships and planes will need to be send to bases and the persian gulf.

Madness there even considering a war against Iran. Let the US fights it own battles. Trump dummy decdision to pull of an agreed Iran nuclear deal caused this, but UK are dummies too they think we always have to fight the brown people in the middle east when they fight back and don't bow down to us.

Some Iranians think that Britain 100% control Iran, were behind the 1979 revolution and go as far to say it is a colony of the UK. Some even say former Shah Ayatollah Khomeini was half British and his father or mother was called Williamson.

Cheerful Spring2 · 24-06-2019 3:14pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Jeremy Hunt would NOT be a good UK PM that is for certain. 'The Republic of Gilead' and its imperialism will always be able to justify its acts when it gets British politicians like him to back them up in a bid to try and revive their own imperialism too. Beware of the evil that is being forced on the world by unelected idiots like John Bolton and now possibly Hunt.

Its real life not a TV series. I would stop talking about the Republic of Gilead and just start focusing on reality.

Reality on Earth- its naive to believe all the world leaders are good people and their intentions are always benign. Human beings are different and not everyone sees the world in same way as you do. Wars are a result of us being different.

John Bolton is blamed for everything, yet his only a cog in the wheel.

Odhinn · 24-06-2019 3:17pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-06-24/uk-could-join-us-in-assault-on-iran-jeremy-hunt-says/

jeremy Hunt has said Britain would consider joining the US in military action against Iran.

Tensions between the US and Iran have increased in recent weeks after the downing of an American drone and claims by Washington that Tehran was behind attacks on oil tankers in the Persian Gulf.

The Foreign Secretary’s comments came as his department minister Andrew Murrison held talks with the Tehran government at the weekend where he said he was “clear” about the UK’s concerns over Iran’s activities.

It not a surprise to most people, just another sign the UK imperalist ways will never change. They love destroying countries, in the middle east. They done a great job in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen they are now signing up for another war against Iran and its allies.

Evidently even the Iraq disaster hasn't been enough to penetrate some thick skulls.

archer22 · 24-06-2019 3:33pm

Iran has commented on the American cyber attack saying "they tried hard, but failed".

And that's the real reason Trump cancelled the attack...he knew the cyber attack had failed and that Iran's defences would be fully operational.

He didn't give a toss about dead Iranians, it was the prospect of a lot of dead Americans that made him think twice.

specky4eyes · 24-06-2019 4:15pm

archer22 wrote: »

Iran has commented on the American cyber attack saying "they tried hard, but failed".

And that's the real reason Trump cancelled the attack...he knew the cyber attack had failed and that Iran's defences would be fully operational.

He didn't give a toss about dead Iranians, it was the prospect of a lot of dead Americans that made him think twice.

Yea Iran certainly have a lot of targets in their neighborhood, and Hezbollah's 150,000 missiles primed and aimed at Israel might have cooled his head down a little.

Gatling · 24-06-2019 4:19pm

specky4eyes wrote: »

Washington supported and armed the Taliban

No and no ...

Gatling · 24-06-2019 4:20pm

specky4eyes wrote: »

Hezbollah's 150,000 missiles primed and aimed at Israel

Oh dear .

Lol

Cheerful Spring2 · 24-06-2019 4:29pm

Odhinn wrote: »

Evidently even the Iraq disaster hasn't been enough to penetrate some thick skulls.

Yes. I see no way out now. This war is likely only weeks away from happening, maybe sooner if someone does a foolish act in the region or elsewhere and blamed on Iran.

Cheerful Spring2 · 24-06-2019 4:32pm

archer22 wrote: »

Iran has commented on the American cyber attack saying "they tried hard, but failed".

And that's the real reason Trump cancelled the attack...he knew the cyber attack had failed and that Iran's defences would be fully operational.

He didn't give a toss about dead Iranians, it was the prospect of a lot of dead Americans that made him think twice.

Iran is a powerhouse militarily in the region. They have groups in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen. All will be let loose when the war begins. It will resemble a mini WW3 in someways without the nuclear weapons.

nthclare · 24-06-2019 4:36pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Iran is a powerhouse militarily in the region. They have groups in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen. All will be let loose when the war begins. It will resemble a mini WW3 in someways without the nuclear weapons.

I think the Americans know that, and if they bring in any ground troops there will be absolute carnage.
I'm sure Persia is well prepared, they'd give the imperialist more than a bloody nose.
They'll probably give them a slipped disc, broken legs and plenty of scar's...

The whole Shia world will respond without hesitation..

Gatling · 24-06-2019 4:36pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Iran is a powerhouse militarily in the region.

I believe your actually overstating their capacity to wage wars on multiple fronts , insurgency is all well till you actually have to defend your own borders from multiple military interventions .

But again it's only yourself and one or two others shouting a war is coming ,

Doesn't really say much

Cheerful Spring2 · 24-06-2019 4:41pm

nthclare wrote: »

I think the Americans know that, and if they bring in any ground troops there will be absolute carnage.
I'm sure Persia is well prepared, they'd give the imperialist more than a bloody nose.
They'll probably give them a slipped disc, broken legs and plenty of scar's...

The whole Shia world will respond without hesitation..

They have been sending aircraft carriers and destroyers to the region for months, just most of the world not paying attention. It was the reeason Trump was able to give the go ahead to strike on short notice and then pulled back last minute. There about 70,000 US troops in the Middle East already, just not enough for a ground invasion.

Cheerful Spring2 · 24-06-2019 4:47pm

Gatling wrote: »

I believe your actually overstating their capacity to wage wars on multiple fronts , insurgency is all well till you actually have to defend your own borders from multiple military interventions .

But again it's only yourself and one or two others shouting a war is coming ,

Doesn't really say much

Sure its only me. If Trump did not change his mind on Thursday we be seeing a war right now. Everyone in Trump inner circle wanted strikes against Iran, you just don't get it. Trump can't pull back from this again and again. War is coming.

You see if i overstated Iran ability to fight.

bunderoon · 24-06-2019 4:48pm

specky4eyes wrote: »

Yea Iran certainly have a lot of targets in their neighborhood, and Hezbollah's 150,000 missiles primed and aimed at Israel might have cooled his head down a little.

Christ..
If you believe that, I have a bitcoin to sell you. Going for 10 euro.

nthclare · 24-06-2019 4:50pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

They have been sending aircraft carriers and destroyers to the region for months, just most of the world not paying attention. It was the reeason Trump was able to give the go ahead to strike on short notice and then pulled back last minute. There about 70,000 US troops in the Middle East already, just not enough for a ground invasion.

I just hope there's no war there in Iran, the people have enough hardship, whether they're under dictatorship or not.
They don't need a war.

Iran has great potential for tourism, fishing, hiking, shopping, and sharing their cultural heritage.

A lot of nations have nuclear weapons and don't use them, they talk a lot about wiping Israel off the map, but I think if they wanted to they'd have peppered it at this point.

There was a time when Israel and Iran had a great relationship.

The best man to explain the entire situation about Iran and Israel is Robert Fisk.

bunderoon · 24-06-2019 4:55pm

nthclare wrote: »

I just hope there's no war there in Iran, the people have enough hardship, whether they're under dictatorship or not.
They don't need a war.

Iran has great potential for tourism, fishing, hiking, shopping, and sharing their cultural heritage.

A lot of nations have nuclear weapons and don't use them, they talk a lot about wiping Israel off the map, but I think if they wanted to they'd have peppered it at this point.

There was a time when Israel and Iran had a great relationship.

The best man to explain the entire situation about Iran and Israel is Robert Fisk.

They never said they wanted to wipe Israel off the map. They said they wanted to rid the world of the racist ideology called Zionism.
Before Zionism, Iran did get on with Israel. So did the Palestinians before Zionists sent the bulldozers in.

Cheerful Spring2 · 24-06-2019 4:59pm

nthclare wrote: »

I just hope there's no war there in Iran, the people have enough hardship, whether they're under dictatorship or not.
They don't need a war.

Iran has great potential for tourism, fishing, hiking, shopping, and sharing their cultural heritage.

A lot of nations have nuclear weapons and don't use them, they talk a lot about wiping Israel off the map, but I think if they wanted to they'd have peppered it at this point.

There was a time when Israel and Iran had a great relationship.

The best man to explain the entire situation about Iran and Israel is Robert Fisk.

It's evident now war is about to begin. Iran would have do a massive u turn and agree to a new deal to stop it. Trump was able to call of strike this time, but his boxed in now, i don't think he be able to next time.

Apparently the White House is in lockdown right now, a suspicious package found. This is what you expect to see with tensions raising. It maybe be false alarm we see.

Trump is now targetting the supreme leader of Iran with sanactions. Seeing now in my twitter feed breaking news, it be news in mainstream news shortly. Other major sanactions also announced

nthclare · 24-06-2019 5:08pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It's evident now war is about to begin. Iran would have do a massive u turn and agree to a new deal to stop it. Trump was able to call of strike this time, but his boxed in now, i don't think he be able to next time.

Apparently the White House is in lockdown right now, a suspicious package found. This is what you expect to see with tensions raising. It maybe be false alarm we see.

Trump is now targetting the supreme leader of Iran with sanactions. Seeing now in my twitter feed breaking news, it be news in mainstream news shortly. Other major sanactions also announced

Oh dear I hope the Iranians talk to him, and just get some correlation between them and the imperialistic threat.

Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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