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Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

specky4eyes

The fucking idiot of the united states has said that Iran did attack 2 oil tankers in the gulf of Oman, the idiot would want to take a step back and consider the consequences of going to war with Iran, Iran is not Iraq in 2003 after 13 years of sanctions against Saddam, the only way Usrael can beat Iran is by using nukes.

I have followed various wars and reasons for wars since the late 80's, looked into all I could find, and in every case a false narrative was put forward by the USA in it's want of war, just like today.

The US (best military in the world:rolleyes:) would be best looking at the fact it hasn't won a war since WW2, even then the Russians actually did the bulk of killing and dying.

I hope Russia stand in the way again and bring them to task or total destruction, the only solution.

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Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Ah yes the Mujahadeen, great bunch of lads. The photo of Brzezinski

The photo was well and truly debunked,keep quoting fake **** .

Didn't that great bunch of lads take on and defeat the Russians who well and truly retreated with tails firmly between their legs,

smurfjed

Are you popping in here to defend Saudi Arabia?

Defend them against what?

It's not tolerated as far as I'm aware there is no other religious places of worship any where in Saudi

Sure they are!

I'm fairly sure there are that the shia population are treated like ****e however.

true

Jimmy Garlic

Gatling wrote: »

The photo was well and truly debunked,keep quoting fake **** .

Didn't that great bunch of lads take on and defeat the Russians who well and truly retreated with tails firmly between their legs,

My apologies gatling, you are right about the photo. It was an officer of the Pakistani army inspecting arms enroute to the Mujahadeen with Brezinzinski. I can admit my mistakes, unlike you. Operation Cyclone, the destruction of what was a secular Muslim country at the time to be replaced with a bunch of headchoppers, how many times has the US done that now Gatling?

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

the destruction of what was a secular Muslim country

By russia they bombed the country back to the stone age they purposely massacred villages and operating a scorched earth policy , bringing communism to the forward looking Western style country of Afghanistan.

And here you are let's blame America

specky4eyes

Trumps adviser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUSwARCMkPE

its_steve116

The Z-lister Donald J. Trump lies yet again.

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Gatling wrote: »

By russia they bombed the country back to the stone age they purposely massacred villages and operating a scorched earth policy , bringing communism to the forward looking Western style country of Afghanistan.

And here you are let's blame America

Just curious, when it suits your narrative, do you make any comparison between a forward looking Iran which was backed by the West, but which was subject to massive corruption, cronyism and political suppression, all of which resulted because of Western manipulation of Iran most famously expressed in Operation Ajax and the resultant Iranian revolution which rejected Western intervention and now has Iran seriously paranoid of any Western attempt to corral it, and the Mujahideen which were backed to the hilt by the West and which ultimately resulted in a conservative, Muslim fundamentalist Afghanistan which destroyed centuries old works of art, suppressed women, massacred anyone who stood in their way and eventually supported Al-Qaeda to destroy the Twin Towers and take over 1,500 lives on 9/11?

Odhinn

Gatling wrote: »

The photo was well and truly debunked,keep quoting fake **** .

Didn't that great bunch of lads take on and defeat the Russians who well and truly retreated with tails firmly between their legs,

....while warning that there should be a negotiated agreement rather than a unilateral withdrawal, given the militant nature of some of the resistance groups. A hawk in the reagan administration at the time (Richard Perle, I think) said to them "Let freedom take care of itself". Not long after freedom had taken care of itself with the Taleban outfighting the other factions and taking control of the state.

archer22

That Bolton geezer looks and sounds like a f**king nonce.

Odhinn

archer22 wrote: »

That Bolton geezer looks and sounds like a f**king nonce.

He's a dangerous malignant individual who quite genuinely wants a war with Iran.

archer22

Odhinn wrote: »

He's a dangerous malignant individual who quite genuinely wants a war with Iran.

Just a question..did he actually get elected or is he just part of the permanent neocon furniture around capitol hill?

Odhinn

archer22 wrote: »

Just a question..did he actually get elected or is he just part of the permanent neocon furniture around capitol hill?

Neocon furniture, alas. Featured quite prominently in the Bush Jr regime, but evidently that doesn't discredit him in the eyes of the current fuckwit incumbent of the oval office. He is, quite literally, a war monger.

The Late Late Show

Odhinn wrote: »

He's a dangerous malignant individual who quite genuinely wants a war with Iran.

Bolton is a danger. I cannot help but feel that that Commander Fred in The Handmaid's Tale graphic novel is based on Bolton. The Handmaid's Tale is the ONLY place Bolton should be: sadly, Margaret Atwood didn't make him up and he is real!!

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The Late Late Show wrote: »

Bolton is a danger. I cannot help but feel that that Commander Fred in The Handmaid's Tale graphic novel is based on Bolton. The Handmaid's Tale is the ONLY place Bolton should be: sadly, Margaret Atwood didn't make him up and he is real!!

Late Late Show posts, mentions Handmaid's Tale = TAKE A DRINK!

The Late Late Show

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Late Late Show posts, mentions Handmaid's Tale = TAKE A DRINK!

Cider and wine = blessed be the fruit!

A drink of wine and now going to watch The Handmaid's Tale = not a bad idea.

Odhinn

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Bolton is a danger. I cannot help but feel that that Commander Fred in The Handmaid's Tale graphic novel is based on Bolton. The Handmaid's Tale is the ONLY place Bolton should be: sadly, Margaret Atwood didn't make him up and he is real!!

O there's been others just as bad. Richard Perle, Paul wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams Donald Rumsfeld, Dough Feith etc. It's actually terrifying how these creatures get access to power.

Hedgelayer

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Bolton is a danger. I cannot help but feel that that Commander Fred in The Handmaid's Tale graphic novel is based on Bolton. The Handmaid's Tale is the ONLY place Bolton should be: sadly, Margaret Atwood didn't make him up and he is real!!

Bolton reminds me of a character in the board game "guess who" he's been wanting to Go to war with Iran since his first moustache..

nacho libre

Odhinn wrote: »

Neocon furniture, alas. Featured quite prominently in the Bush Jr regime, but evidently that doesn't discredit him in the eyes of the current fuckwit incumbent of the oval office. He is, quite literally, a war monger.

I would not be one for praising Donald too often, but he has disrupted Bolton's plans for the time being, but I fear Bolton will eventually get his way

Gatling, what is your opinion of John Bolton? Can you give a direct answer, or will you jump through hoops as usual;)

Gatling

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Muslim fundamentalist Afghanistan which destroyed centuries old works of art, suppressed women, massacred anyone who stood in their way and eventually supported Al-Qaeda to destroy the Twin Towers and take over 1,500 lives on 9/11?

Who were the only country who wanted and eventually did go in and remove the said Taliban ..

Answers on a postcard.

- remind newly registered what was your last account

Gringo180

specky4eyes wrote: »

Trumps adviser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUSwARCMkPE

Lol.

John Bolton should be hanged for crimes against humanity.

Has he ever served any time in the military?

janfebmar

"Muslim fundamentalist Afghanistan which destroyed centuries old works of art, suppressed women, massacred anyone who stood in their way and eventually supported Al-Qaeda to destroy the Twin Towers and take over 1,500 lives on 9/11?"

Gatling wrote: »

Who were the only country who wanted and eventually did go in and remove the said Taliban ..

Answers on a postcard.

USA, with help from her allies like the UK. Fair play to them. They are by no means perfect but the world would be poorer without them.

Gatling

nacho libre wrote: »

Gatling, what is your opinion of John Bolton? Can you give a direct answer, or will you jump through hoops as usual;)

Bolton should have accidentally driven his car off a road and died a long time ago ,
He is more dangerous than trump and likely has more sway than Donald behind the scenes and knows the game a lot better too ,

Iran shooting down the drown has brought us into a very tight game of high stakes poker ( ship attacks and downing a drone ) in international waters has brought them to the brink either they go all in and try to bluff America in the hope they will be powerless to stop Iran or Bolton and go all in and decide Iran is going to be hammered .

Iran has the ability to cause big problems in Iraq for the states multiple heavily armed militias only loyal to Iran who would happily be involved in a new insurgency iraq not for the first time either with the support of several hardliners inside the Iraq government,
It's very highly likely Israel will hit Iran in support of America ,can Iran fight on multiple fronts and maintain the upper hand I personally do see them winning out .

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Gatling wrote: »

Who were the only country who wanted and eventually did go in and remove the said Taliban ..

Answers on a postcard.

- remind newly registered what was your last account

Removed Taliban? Remind me again which country has been trying to make deals with said Taliban in order to extricate themselves from a never ending conflict? While you're at it, remind us which country put the Taliban there in the first place.

Gatling

Steyr 556 wrote: »

While you're at it, remind us which country put the Taliban there in the first place.

Pakistan

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Gatling wrote: »

Pakistan

Obtuse response is hilarious.

specky4eyes

Gatling wrote: »

Who were the only country who wanted and eventually did go in and remove the said Taliban ..

Answers on a postcard.

- remind newly registered what was your last account

Are you talking about the same Taliban that the US are having peace talks with so they can leave Afghanistan without losing face?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-talks/u-s-taliban-aim-to-firm-up-date-for-foreign-force-exit-from-afghanistan-idUSKCN1TP186

Khalilzad, an Afghan-born American diplomat has been leading the talks to secure a political settlement with the hardline Islamist group that now controls more Afghan territory than at any time since being toppled in 2001 by U.S.-led forces.

Yea they really put the Taliban in their place.:pac::pac::pac:

specky4eyes

Gringo180 wrote: »

Lol.

John Bolton should be hanged for crimes against humanity.

Has he ever served any time in the military?

Him and Pompeo should be sent in first, dirty animals.

specky4eyes

Gatling wrote: »

Pakistan

Washington supported and armed the Taliban
Ronald Reagen invited the Taliban to the White House in 1985. Jimmy Carter supplied Jihad with Stinger rockets and US dollars.

https://ivarfjeld.com/2011/05/14/washington-supported-and-armed-the-taliban/

They even sent Rambo in to aid Osama........:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCNZN3v2l0

Cheerful Spring2

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-06-24/uk-could-join-us-in-assault-on-iran-jeremy-hunt-says/

jeremy Hunt has said Britain would consider joining the US in military action against Iran.

Tensions between the US and Iran have increased in recent weeks after the downing of an American drone and claims by Washington that Tehran was behind attacks on oil tankers in the Persian Gulf.

The Foreign Secretary’s comments came as his department minister Andrew Murrison held talks with the Tehran government at the weekend where he said he was “clear” about the UK’s concerns over Iran’s activities.

It not a surprise to most people, just another sign the UK imperalist ways will never change. They love destroying countries, in the middle east. They done a great job in Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen they are now signing up for another war against Iran and its allies.

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Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

jeremy Hunt has said Britain would consider joining the US in military action against Iran.

Already are, the weekend tabloids report they have their special boat people hanging out with the Seals doing mini-sub scuba in the warm sunny waters.

Meanwhile any guesses for the gold spot price?
$1,750 <3mths me thinks. Hits a 6yr high today 1,407 (+8.8% 30days).

Crude/Brent is still low overall, but that may oversupply already, and subject to change.