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Here comes the Judge, my 69 GTO

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    With the diff out I attached it degreaser & wire wheels to remove years of grim & loose surface paint etc,

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    With that done I pulled the axles out with the drum brake backing plates, this gave me more room to swing a wirewheel & also reduced the weight of the diff to make it a bit easier for me to move it about & flip it over

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    The bearings & the axles seem fine, not that I was expecting anything else

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    With that done I was able to give the diff a good clean up & then several coats of a rust inhibiting underbody spray

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    I installed the new upper control arm bushing using the tried & tested smack them with a lump of wood method & that worked fine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    The next thing was to install the new lower bracket for the coilover suspension, made sense to do that on the bench, needed to ensure that the bracket was mounted at 90 deg to the axle housing tube, I’m sure there is probably a clever tool to use for this, I don’t own one so improvised, this bracket uses the existing hole for the original lower shock mount & then requires you to drill a second hole to secure it properly.

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    Likewise the new upper bracket mounts to the existing upper shock mounting holes & require a 3rd hole to be drilled to secure it in place

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    I installed the new replacement upper control arm

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    The new replacement lower control arm

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    Also the new triangulation brace that ties the upper & lower control arm mounting points to each other

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    With all of these installed & hanging it was time to slide the diff under again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    The plan was pretty simple here, the reverse of how I got the diff out, chock the car frame in the air to free up my hoist jacking plate, slide the diff onto the jacking plate & then move it into place so I could attach the two lower control arms to the diff housing

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    With them connected but not tightened up fully I jacked the diff up & tilted it back to its natural angle to allow me to connect the two upper arms too, then I measured the diff location & once it was centered I tightened everything up, but not to full torque specs yet as they say not to do that until the car is on its wheels under it’s own weight

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    Then it was time to admire a lot of the shiny new bits that where to go on next

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    Assembled the coilovers, not sure exactly how much anti-seize you’re supposed to put on the threads but I put what I think was a fair bit

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    Took a stab in the dark guess at ride height for now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Then it was time to mount the new handbrake (or E-brake given this is a US car) backing plate

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    Then reinstall the axles into the diff housing

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    Then the new disk brake rotor & hat slide over the e-brake backing plate

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    Install the new 4 piston caliper

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    Then put the wheels back on & drop the car to the ground & torque up all the new suspension bits to the instructed values.. not a bad ride height for my first guestimate

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Last bit to be installed is the new rear swaybar which they should only be installed with the car on the ground, unlike the bar I removed that just bolted to the lower control arms this new bar attaches via these funky blocks that mean that I have some adjustment as to where the bar sits

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    As I just about to bolt up the new bar I remembered that I’m replacing the fuel tank & that the bar would most likely be in the way, so I’ve now not installed the sway bar yet

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    I used the jacking plate to take the weight of the tank so that I could undo the straps & then simply lower the tank (I think it’s got 20-30ltrs in it) down & then slide it onto the same table I used for the diff, fast becoming an indispensable member of the Skunk Works garage this table

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    I’m very happy with the boot floor & chassis rails back here, you can tell this car lived the vast majority of her 51 years in dry climates

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    Very happy with how this all looks from behind now

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Now it’s time to tackle the front end, first step the strip down

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    All of the this needs to be removed

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    I’ll be reusing the tie-rod ends & I only replaced them a short while ago (well in driven miles terms) so care was taken to split them in such a way as to not damage them

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    The upper ball joints are split now & will never be reused so a lump hammer & a tuning fork did their work here

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    I’ve removed the lower arm & spindles in one piece, I’ll split the spindle from the lower arm on the bench, I’ll need to reuse the spindles in the new set up

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    With the front now stripped I have another collection of old front suspensions bits I’ll probably never need, I’ll box them up like I did with the stuff from the XB & the Challenger & keep them.. you know, just in case

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    I’ll give the front end a little clean up but won’t go mad & then I can start installing all the shiny bits

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Before starting with any of the shiny clean new bits, I figured I’d break down the lower arms & spindles as I’d need to reuse the spindles & the steering rod arms

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    Used a ball joint breaker on the spindles, not that I think for a second that the old hitting it with a hammer method or using a tuning fork would damage the spindle in any way

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    With the bits apart I was able to wire brush all the years of crap & crud off of them

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    Now I’m ready for operation assemble the new QA1 front end..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    With the F1 cancelled this morning I found myself at home with a day of leave from work & nothing to do…. So I cleaned up the front chassis rails & the crossmember

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    Once cleaned up, I painted it ready to install the new parts

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    I’ll be replacing the radiator & the A/C Condenser too so out came the rad

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    I had to remove the front grills to get to the bolts that hold the condenser in but I can’t seem to get it out thru the engine bay side as the brackets are in the way… bit of Dr Google research needed here I think as I really don’t want to have to remove the nose as I’ve been told that that is a massive pain in the rectum

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Ok, time to put some shiny new bits on, the coilovers are designed to work with the original lower control arm if you wish & the new tubular lower control arm is designed that it could be used with the stock spring & shock set up.. so I need to remove the pin from the bottom of the coilover as it’s only for use with the original lower arm configuration

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    Then this plate gets installed into the new lower arm to fill over the hole that the stock shock would install into

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    I love the ease of installing new shiny clean parts on a clean prepped car with all new nuts & bolts… it’s such an easy task… so lower & upper arms get installed

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    Then you install the coil spring on the shock & you can hang it from its top mounting point

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    Then I gently jacked the bottom arm up so that I can install the lower mount of the coilover into its bracket

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    That’s the install done now…

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    I have tomorrow free now as I had planned to be at the F1, so now I’ll install the new front brakes & reconnect the steering arms instead, then I’ll have another go at removing the A/C condenser before I install the sway bar as right now I can stand up in the engine bay in front of the crossmember but the sway bar would be in my way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Today was indeed front brake install day… first step was to install the new wheel studs into the billet hubs

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    The hub is drilled so it can be used on either Pontiac or Chev wheel bolt patterns, so I screwed the studs in by hand & then tested them on a wheel before committing to some red Loctite & a whack of the torque wrench, sadly the new studs are a different thread pitch than the stock studs in the rear axles, so I may have to swap them out, for now it will mean having a different set of wheel nuts front & rear

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    These Wilwood brakes are a multi part piece of kit, so next job was to bolt the brake rotor to the adapter plate

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    Then the rotor/adapter plate assembly is bolted to the hub

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    Then I packed the inner bearing & installed that & the dust seal into the hub

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next step was to install the caliper bracket onto the spindle, these have to be shimmed to fit as the engineering on these cars isn’t exactly too NASA levels of exactance…. So I went with a guess of 4 shims for the lower bolt as you can see from the 2nd pic

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    Then you install the rotor assembly & then you can measure the top & bottom gap from the bracket to the disk & either add or remove shims as required until you have the same gap from the bracket to the rotor top & bottom

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    Once you have that sorted then you can put the split pin in & screw on the billet cap

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    Then you install the caliper & again measure the gaps, this time left & right of the rotor faces to the caliper wall so you can shim the caliper so that the rotor is in the middle of the caliper

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    Then you install the pads & you are done

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    They give you a wheel spacer in the kit too as some wheels won’t clear the caliper

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    I test fit a wheel on mine, not that I ever even remotely thought I’d need the spacer to clear my 17’ wheels… I was correct spacer not needed

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    The next step was to reattach the steering arms

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    Job done… very very happy with how they look

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    I won’t be in the Skunk Works tomorrow… I need to spend some time with Mrs XB & some friends.. but the jobs for next week will be to figure out how to replace the AC condenser at the front whilst removing the minimum amount of panels & parts to do so…. Once that’s done I can install the new front sway bar & then make up any new brake lines I need… then I’ll clean up the rear chassis & install the new fuel tank & run the new fuel lines.. so stay tuned, same bat time.. same bat channel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I have a new fuel tank to go in the car, an aeromotive setup with an in-tank pump… the kit is pretty good, comes with the correct OEM shaped tank as you would expect but with a recess cut out to take the new pump outlets

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    They supply the correct -8 (& -6 for the vent line) connectors

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    The fuel pressure regulator & inline filter

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    They also supply the correct pressure gauge for the regulator & the 3 x -8 connectors that you need

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    The one way ball vent for the tank vent line

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    & finally the wiring kit for the pump

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    I then went out panic bought a heap on AN fittings & some braided line so that I can make up the whole system once I’ve given the rest of a chassis a quick clean & paint

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    Just need to decide where to mount the regulator in the engine bay, you mostly see them mounted off on the inner wing

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Another option I have is to place it on the firewall, there is an old external regulator that was for the old 1969 alternator as they didn’t have internally regulated ones back then, if you’d read this thread from the start you’d know that I replaced the ALT not long after getting the car so this part can be removed & added to the pile of old unwanted parts I’m building

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    I think I’d rather have it mounted here if I can

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Everyone on the interwebs who knew told me that you cannot remove the AC condenser without taking the front panels off… can’t be done don’t try, I really didn’t wan to do that… so I spent a long time looking at it whilst having a beer & figured I could do it by removing the drivers side bracket & then gently twisting that bracket out & then pulling the actual condenser out thru the engine bay

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    Take that interwebs… got it out without damaging anything at all.. now that’s out I’ll clean up the space behind the nose

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    I have a brand new condenser to go in, it’s silver & whilst I know there is little to no real thermal benefit to black vs silver I think that the silver will stand out too much behind the grills so I’ll paint it flat black

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    The new AC kit I bought came with everything except a drier I found out when I opened the new condenser box.. so I pulled the old one off

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    Test fitted it

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    Then thru it in the bin & have ordered a brand new one.. it should arrive next week.. then I took the brackets off the new condenser & painted the whole lot matt black

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    This is now ready to go in & yes I have remembered that the drives side bracket has to be removed to get it in, but keeping it all together means I can’t lose any bits… I want to buy a external transmission cooler & install that in the nose in front of where the condenser goes, so that’ll go in first when I get it

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    I am also replacing the battery tray as acid has leaked onto this over the years & it’s badly corroded.. I have a new one on a shelf somewhere here in the Skunk Works as I know I bought one not long after getting the car

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    I’ll also clean up the area under the battery tray before installing the new one

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I’ve decided to fit a remote trans cooler to the front of the car since I have both the radiator & condenser out, I’ve decided to bypass the radiator & it’s only job being cooling the engine. I bought a PWR cooler that has AN fittings & not the usual barbed ones that use hose clamps to hold the hose on

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    I’ve bought straight & 90 deg -6 AN connectors as I’m not sure how the mounting will be up front yet

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    I’ve also painted this stealth black too

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    I’ve also gotten the correct ¼” NPSM to -6 connectors for the Turbo 400 transmission, as I plan to run -6 braided lines instead of making up new hard lines

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    This means that my stock pile of -6 & -8 AN fittings & braided hoses are building…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Spent a bit of time mounting up the trans cooler, I installed the new AC condenser so I could see exactly how much room I had to play with…

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    One of the two horns will be an issue & will need to be moved

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    For now I just moved it to the other side of the core support

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    Then I hung the cooler in with some cable ties so I can sit back & have a good look at where it would sit

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    Pulled the AC condenser back out again to give me room to work now that I know the cooler will fit nicely in front of it without fouling on anything other than the horn that I’ll move

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I can’t just leave the horn flipped onto the other side of the support like I have now as its in the airflow & I don’t want that

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    The bracket on the back of the horn is molded into the horn & can’t be removed without cracking the horn case, so I carefully spent some time heating the metal & gently folding it into the new shape I wanted

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    That works… the horn mounts to the original holes & is now out of the way of the cooler but still out of the airflow too… now to make up some brackets for the cooler

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    The cross bar at the top is a square section so I can’t drill a whole & push a bolt thru, so I’ve welded a pair of screws on to mount the cooler hanging brackets

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    Not happy with just the two vertical brackets even though they’d probably be fine, so I made a horizontal brace too

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    Then I painted them both black

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    With the paint dry & the cooler installed, I’m pretty happy with how it sits

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    I can’t finish up the install of this cooler until the final AC part the drier turns up & then I can get the front 3 x rads in & move onto something else. I went to make up the brake lines but I had the wrong parts to fit the rear hard lines into the Wilwood calipers so I’ve had to order some new fittings that hopefully work… but I did get the fronts finished

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I’m trying to spend an hour a night now out in the shed working on stuff, it doesn’t sound like a lot but it does help progress things along. The AC drier turned up, it was again bright chrome so I’ve painted it black to match the rest of the AC parts up front behind the grills..

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    I decided to clean up the gearbox crossmember, man was it caked in crap on top

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    It took a while & it was a messy job, but as with these types of jobs it now looks great painted in the same black coating as the rest of the chassis

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    Also painted up the fuel tank straps.. hopefully this weekend I’ll get the tank installed & the new fuel lines run

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Speaking of fuel lines, the new aeromotive in tank pump is set up to use -8 AN fittings as I’d said, so I was looking to see if I could easily remove the existing factory hardlines without cutting or bending them… simple answer is no, the body would have to be unbolted off the frame to be able to get them out in one piece undamaged

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    So I’m simply going to route the new -8 braided lines down the same route but on the passenger side of the chassis, I made up a length of clear hose I had with one of the -8 AN fittings (that I wrapped in tape to protect the finish) so that I could do a trail run to ensure that I could feed the hose where I wanted it to run & double check that it doesn’t rub on anything or get crimped at any point

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next was to work out where to mount the inline fuel filter, it needs to be easy to each to replace & also out of the way.. I looked for spots above the diff close to the tank but none of these really looked good to me

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    In the end I think that midway along the chassis rail where there is a vertical brace is the best spot, it protects it, keeps it out of the way & is easy to get to when I need to replace it..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    This is going to be a practically new car - like Triggers broom :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    This is going to be a practically new car - like Triggers broom :D

    maybe.... for now I'm not pulling the body off the frame & doing a bare-metal restore of it.... so lets call it a mechanical freshen up for now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Daved_XB wrote: »
    maybe.... for now I'm not pulling the body off the frame & doing a bare-metal restore of it.... so lets call it a mechanical freshen up for now

    Freshen up? Jesus that's some money on a freshen up!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Freshen up? Jesus that's some money on a freshen up!!

    Have you seen my other threads on here.. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Wanted to finish the install of the trans cooler, so I decided that rather than trying to measure the lengths I though I’d need I’d install the transmission back in & measure that way..

    So I swapped out the existing hardline connectors with the correct NPT to AN adapters

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    Then fitted the two 45 deg AN fittings

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    Then I placed the trans back in the car connected to the crossmember so it is exactly where it will be when the engine goes back in

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    Then I fitted the cooler end fitting to the -6 hose & ran the hose exactly the way it will be routed when installed & that gave me an exact measurement of how long the hose needs to be. For the trans fluid they recommend that I used a Teflon lined hose, so unlike normal rubber lined braided hose that just uses press assembly, the Teflon core needs a soft metal olive or ferrule as some call them

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


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    With that done I then I removed the cooler again to give me as much space as I could get to install the AC condenser

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    Installed the new drier before installing it into the car

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    What happened next was an hour of me inventing new swear words… no matter how hard I tried I couldn’t get the new condenser into the car, turns out that it’s 3mm too tall to fit in at the very front on the condenser so I ended up having to trim a 45deg angle off the top of the condenser frame to get it to fit

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    After that I won’t say that it went in easy but it went in…

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    Then installed the trans cooler for hopefully the last time

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    Then installed the grille

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Then decided that I didn’t like the fact that I hadn’t painted the mounting screws & felt they would look better black so removed the grille again, painted the screws black & reinstalled the grille again

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    I also swapped out the old sun beaten GTO badge with a shiny new one

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    Bought a trans temp gauge & gauge holder to mount in the car & this one has a sensor that I’ll tap into the actual trans oil pan for the most accurate reading

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Then it was time to install the new fuel tank, unlike the old one the filler neck is not part of the pressing here & needs to be added, also hooked up a vac line for the fill vent that will run across the top of the tank & connect to the original vent tube behind the license plate

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    This “simple” task also turned out to be a bit of a nightmare as this new tank is a little wider than the old one that was taken out

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    Finally managed to get the thing in… I think that with 2 people this would have been a lot easier or if the diff was still out it would have been easy… but its in

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    Obviously with the tank fully installed I can’t get to the AN fittings on the top of the pump

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    Luckily the tank braces allow me to lower the front enough so that I can wire up the pump & connect the lines without the tank falling on my head

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    Hope to get an hour or two one night this week in the shed & get all the lines made up & installed


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Wow its coming together so well, a great project to follow thanks..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Wow its coming together so well, a great project to follow thanks..

    Thanks... it is a nice feeling to be knocking jobs off the todo list as fully finished.. just hope that my engine builder is still working thru this lock down or who knows when I'll have it back on the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    The next task was to make up some braided lines with the correct AN fittings to plumb in the fuel tank, now I have experience in making braided lines & my underlining memory from that experience is almost bleeding to death from the thousand tiny dagger stabbings I got working with the cut ends of the braid as I tried to push the AN fitting ends on..

    Wanting to avoid that I bought these little tools awhile ago

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    These are some simple & work so well… you open them up & put the hose end of the AN fitting inside

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    Then put the tool in the vice to hold it & the tapered opening of the tool is just slightly smaller in diameter than the opening of the AN fitting

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    Meaning you just push whilst slowly twisting the hose & it just slides in with no catching or bending or bunching of the braided hose cover & most importantly (for me at least) no chance of stabbing myself just under the finger nail with a timy sharp steel dagger or 10!

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    Then just use your soft vice jaws to assemble the AN fitting

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    With the lines attached to the tank & run as neatly as I can get them the tank end of the install was done & I could bolt it in place

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I’m running the lines the same route as the factory hard lines really just on the other side of the frame

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    The fuel filter I’m mounting in this little protected section

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    Now that the tank & lines are in I can install the rear sway bar & officially say that the rear suspension install is done

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    The very last thing that I have to do at the rear is make up new rear hard brake lines to run from the distribution block on the top of the diff pumpkin to the calipers.. I have the correct fittings to make the caliper side of the lines, but I’m still waiting on the other fittings & a roll of the actual hardline to be delivered

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    I also have a complete new wiring loom for the rear end & once I’m finished under the car I’ll rewire the rear of the car

    Moving onto the front, I’ve installed the new battery tray

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    I’ve installed the new radiator for now… yes yes I know it needs to come out again to put the engine in, but I also need to do a shed tidy up this weekend & by installing it I achieve two things, it’s one less part box taking up space & it’s in the safest place.. unlikely to be damaged sitting in the car

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    Next up, I’ll install the new front sway bar & mount up & plumb in the fuel pressure regulator & then I’m kinda out of parts until the engine arrives, I have some things to do inside the car too but I’m waiting on some parts to rock up.. getting close


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    That must be a pleasure making up those braided lines now without ripping your fingers off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    That must be a pleasure making up those braided lines now without ripping your fingers off

    I can't express how much easier this previously dangerous task has become.. my new fave tool for the weekend for sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Installing the sway bar was pretty simple, hung it in place & then simply installed the new torque plates as they seem to call them

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    Then the end links to the lower control arms… no rocket doctoring needed here

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    Right well that’s all of the suspension installed finished then…

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    Decided on the install location for the new fuel pressure regulator in the engine bay on the firewall

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    Then it was time to try & work out what way to route the fuel lines, as you’re looking at these pics the inlet on the left, the return is the bottom & the Carb feed is on the right. My preference is to have the inlet a 90 deg bend & the return the 45 deg, but I’m not sure if the lines will interfere with each other too much.. I have to use two 45 degs for both inlet & return

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    I decided to make up the return line end & fit that as I know that that will be a 45 deg either way, rather than pull the hose all the way out I was able to slide the table I’d been using to make install the AN fittings after I measured the lines & cut them to length

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    After trying both the 45 & the 90 on the inlet I was happy to see that I can use the 90 as I had hopped, I think that this is the neater of the two options that I could have gone with

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    That’s the fuel system done now until the engine is in & I can make up & plumb the line from the regulator to the carb itself

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    I’m fast running out of jobs for this car now… tomorrows plan is to do my annual shed tidy up & then I’ll probably start back on the Challenger & the XB again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I’m running out of things I can be doing on the GTO now whilst I await the engine build, decided to make up the new hard brake lines for the rear, I have a length of 3/16” stainless steel brake line.

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    A cutter

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    A line bending tool

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    And most importantly a proper flaring tool

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    With the suspension at full droop there isn’t a lot of space between the caliper & the coilover so I figure if I bend it up for this minimal gap then it’ll be fine under load

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    My flaring tool, is quiet cool I think, it has different dies to hold different diameter lines & the different ends are used for different flare styles

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    You slide the tube into the die

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    Then you set the dial to 0 & pull the handle to push the tube into the correct depth… once this is done then you can clamp down fully on the die to hold the tube solid

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    For the brake lines I’m making up, I needed to double flare my 3/16” line, so step one is turn the dial to 3/16 flare 1… this makes a bubble flare

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    Then you adjust the dial to 3/16 flare 2 & that gives you the double flare

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    Here is the gap at full droop (so as close as it should ever get) & then at normal ride height…

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    So that’s the brake lines run

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Since I had the wheels off I figured I’d fit the disk end of the new Wilwood handbrake cables

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    These simply pull on the internal drum of the new disk brake set-up

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    Then I ran the new cables along the same route as the old ones ran

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Thought I’d just share some progress pics for the engine build for the GTO… because who doesn’t like looking at shiny engine build pics…

    So the block was assembled to check for deck heights, clearance issues etc as I’d said before

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    After that was done then the block was cleaned again & then primed for paint

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    Then we painted the block in the correct Pontiac blue… it’s not my fave engine colour I must admit but it looks good… it’ll be a bitch to keep clean going forward in the bay of course & I’m sure I’ll be wishing I’d just painted it black… but here it is

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    New freeze plugs in

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    Rotating assembly now in for good

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    The new oilpan got a painting too rather than leaving it in its raw aluminum

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Other than the actual block itself the only other original part off my old engine we’re reusing is the front timing cover, so that was blasted & cleaned up too

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    One of the heads has now been port-matched to the intake to help with the flow

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    These new heads are what they call big D port heads, add this larger port opening to the fact that we’ve done some smoothing work on the ports the original gaskets I had no longer fit the heads so I got onto Butler performance & got a set of large port gaskets for the heads.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    It must be some relief to see the engine coming together! Has the builder said when they'll get it finished?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    It must be some relief to see the engine coming together! Has the builder said when they'll get it finished?

    Not in a detailed way no.... I saw him on Tuesday night to give him the gaskets & he said used phrases like it was close & wouldn't be long now... but didn't want to give a direct date... it's a long weekend this weekend here so hopefully he spends a bit of time on it in a final big push kinda way.

    But when I saw him Tuesday he told me of another part needed so that only got ordered this week & won't be here till next week now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    The new MagnaFlow 3” stainless steel exhaust for the GTO turned up today, I was getting silly quotes from exhaust shops to make me one here so it was much cheaper to buy a sectioned kit that was pre-cut to fit my exact car.

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    The old exhaust I pulled off had no H or X pipe, this is an X pipe system so will sound much better & give better performance to boot

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    The mufflers are a straight thru design so I’m glad the car is already registered as I think with this new system it would fail the road worthy test on noise

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    The rear of this exhaust is designed to pop out the sides just past the rear wheels.. I’m not sure if I’ll route it that way or not, I’ll wait till I have it on the car & I can see how it looks to make that call… I bought a set of GTO correct chrome tips incase I decide to go straight out the back past the fuel tank like the old system did

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    Daved_XB wrote: »
    Not in a detailed way no.... I saw him on Tuesday night to give him the gaskets & he said used phrases like it was close & wouldn't be long now... but didn't want to give a direct date... it's a long weekend this weekend here so hopefully he spends a bit of time on it in a final big push kinda way.

    But when I saw him Tuesday he told me of another part needed so that only got ordered this week & won't be here till next week now

    goddamn that must be annoying not to have an end date -- ah well, once it gets rebuilt properly it will be worth it, it's a hobby car so you don't need it immediately. Or will you use it for the drive to work :p


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