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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭long range shooter


    tricky D wrote: »
    Further developments on the USS Guardian, from The Guardian no less!


    US navy will dismantle minesweeper stranded on coral reef

    The damage to the ship that ran aground in the Philippines is so extensive the vessel will have to be cut up and removed

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/jan/30/us-navy-dismantle-minesweeper-coral
    The senior officers of the USS Guardian was fired today:eek:
    I guess it had to be some heads rollin after this.


    http://gcaptain.com/senior-leadership-ex-uss-guardian/


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    They're calling it a ship, bit more of a barge really, but a very interesting scheme.

    IHA_20130208_271645.jpg
    The Karadeniz Powership Fatmagül Sultan, which has a production capacity of 205 MW of electricity, will be operated in Lebanon by a sixty-member team of technicians and engineers. The Powership is 142 meters long and 42 meters wide. The Powership houses the electricity generating equipment, the high voltage transformers, a special workshop as well as onboard fuel tanks allowing for continuous power production.

    http://beiruting.com/LeMag/Karadeniz_Powership_FATMAG%C3%9CL_SULTAN_arrives_to_Lebanon_/794


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    No return for the Isle of Inishfree.

    Off the ICG website.
    Irish Continental Group plc announces that it has entered an agreement for the extension of the bareboat charter of its vessel MV Kaitaki, (formerly MV Isle of Innisfree), to KiwiRail Limited (trading as Interislander), of New Zealand, for a period of four years from 1 July 2013, in direct continuation from the current charter, which was due to expire on 30 June 2013. The charter rate is €3.75 million per annum. The agreement also provides for an option for Interislander to extend the charter for a further period of three years from July 2017, at a reduced rate.

    There was talk of the Inishfree returning to the Irish Sea to facilitate ICG to compete with the Stena Nordica but this agreement has kicked that prospect away. ICG's last interim management statement had already stated that there would be no increase in capacity on their routes.

    Its a shame, anyone who worked with or on the Inishfree speaks very highly of it in terms of speed, reliability and versatility. The fact that Interislander Ferries are so keen to hang onto it despite it being the only ship on their routes not to have a rail deck says a lot about the ship too.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Speaking of the Stena Nordica,surly thats in line to be replaced..?I have used it a few times over the last year and its way to small.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Bagenal


    Taken from the IIFA newsletter which I received today

    Irish Continental Group - Freight Report

    The Irish Continental Group plc recently released their Statement of Results for the Year ended 31 December 2012. The report contained a small feature on Freight as follows:

    "The Republic of Ireland's RORO market remained challenging with overall volumes marginally lower than 2011 (194.5 in 2011 down 5.6% to 183.7 in 2012). There also continues to be overcapacity in the freight market particularly on the longer sea routes, which is unsustainable at current market demand. There was some recognition of this in the termination by one operator of a pure RORO service from Heysham to Northern Ireland.

    Irish Ferries carryings, at 183,700 freight units were down approximately 5.6% in the year reflecting this difficult economic and capacity backdrop.

    The extremely challenging economic circumstances in the Republic of Ireland and UK contributed to the lack of growth in the market and the pressure on operating costs for our freight customers remained intense. Irish Ferries remained focused on delivering high quality service combined with real value for regular users of our services. The backdrop of increased fuel costs also made trading difficult for our customers who are consumers of road diesel in addition to purchasing deck space on our ferries."


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Dub13 wrote: »
    Speaking of the Stena Nordica,surly thats in line to be replaced..?I have used it a few times over the last year and its way to small.

    I've heard the most unlikely rumour that Stena are looking at new tonnage for Dun Laoghaire. TBF, the Explorer can't go on forever, but the unique set up of DL massively restricts the options. Unless, the old chestnut of the Stena Charisma is back on the table?

    http://www.stenaline.com/en/stena-line/corporate/about-stena-line/routes-and-vessels/ship-gallery/Stena-Carisma---Express

    But it was a rumour from a good source, so who knows...:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    seanmacc wrote: »
    Its a shame, anyone who worked with or on the Inishfree speaks very highly of it in terms of speed, reliability and versatility. The fact that Interislander Ferries are so keen to hang onto it despite it being the only ship on their routes not to have a rail deck says a lot about the ship too.

    Not being cursed also helps :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Bagenal wrote: »
    Taken from the IIFA newsletter which I received today

    Irish Continental Group - Freight Report

    The Irish Continental Group plc recently released their Statement of Results for the Year ended 31 December 2012. The report contained a small feature on Freight as follows:

    "The Republic of Ireland's RORO market remained challenging with overall volumes marginally lower than 2011 (194.5 in 2011 down 5.6% to 183.7 in 2012). There also continues to be overcapacity in the freight market particularly on the longer sea routes, which is unsustainable at current market demand. There was some recognition of this in the termination by one operator of a pure RORO service from Heysham to Northern Ireland.

    Irish Ferries carryings, at 183,700 freight units were down approximately 5.6% in the year reflecting this difficult economic and capacity backdrop.

    The extremely challenging economic circumstances in the Republic of Ireland and UK contributed to the lack of growth in the market and the pressure on operating costs for our freight customers remained intense. Irish Ferries remained focused on delivering high quality service combined with real value for regular users of our services. The backdrop of increased fuel costs also made trading difficult for our customers who are consumers of road diesel in addition to purchasing deck space on our ferries."

    I'll call BS on this one.

    The reason Irish Ferries RORO freight carryings are down is down to 2 simple reasons.
    1. The Nordica is taking traffic away. Although the Nordica was around last year Stena have been more efficient at filling her up with freight in the last year. Often there is more freight on the Nordica in the afternoon than Stena's route flagship Adventurer in the evening. As they have more options than Irish Ferries and a lot of hauliers get discounts based on their volumes with the companies more will go to Stena.

    2. Stena are able to offer their freight customers Ferrylink or Landbridge services on their own ferrys from Britain to France making a large amount of traffic want to go with them. Irish Ferries don't presently offer that to freight customers forcing them to go through brokers.

    What Irish Ferries have going for them is a dam fine and reliable vessel in the Ulysess. After Stena's debacle over their drydock cover, the Finnarrow incident and several long weather delays of the Nordica and Adventurer a lot of traffic has swung back their way this year.

    Its funny how when it comes to passenger traffic Irish Ferries and Stena operate like a cartel, where their prices are almost the exact same as each other all year round. They do compete for scraps of freight business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭long range shooter


    private Security guards defending a vessel against Somali pirates.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5e2_1333668975


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    That's a pretty old clip now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭long range shooter


    That's a pretty old clip now.

    Maybe to You,not to me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Ooops!

    Stena Aventurer cancelled out of Dublin tonight. Cancellation came at about 20:00hrs.

    They cancelled Roslare-Fishgaurd earlier today as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭The_Wrecker


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    I've heard the most unlikely rumour that Stena are looking at new tonnage for Dun Laoghaire. TBF, the Explorer can't go on forever, but the unique set up of DL massively restricts the options. Unless, the old chestnut of the Stena Charisma is back on the table?

    http://www.stenaline.com/en/stena-line/corporate/about-stena-line/routes-and-vessels/ship-gallery/Stena-Carisma---Express

    But it was a rumour from a good source, so who knows...:confused:

    The HSS Voyager has been stripped back to its rivets! The Explorer will have parts for a few years yet. http://www.bairdmaritime.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14050:hss-readies-for-breakers&catid=71&Itemid=63


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    It may have parts, but it may not have sufficient load to justify the fuel costs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭long range shooter




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Deadliest Catch Vs the Canadian Navy :eek:
    Trawler strikes navy ship sending 6 to B.C. hospital
    HMCS Winnipeg struck by American fishing trawler near CFB Esquimalt

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/04/23/bc-navy-esquimalt-ship-collision.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭ex_infantry




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    What an idiot. All crew were on the weather deck - he clearly was trying to squeeze through because he luffed up, then lost way and crrunch! No race is worth that!
    The reason for the delay is not very clear from the article (The journalist’s reporting and English skills are rubbish, he does not know the difference between ‘flouting’ and ‘flaunting’.)
    IMO the prosecution process took longer because the case was brought in a Crown Court (hears indictable offences) as opposed to a Magistrates Court (minor offences), probably because the offence was considered very serious. (Crown/Magistrates are +/- like our Circuit and District Courts). His defence team challenged jurisdiction, trying to get it heard in the lower court. The closing paragraph suggests that they were successful – so a Magistrates Court will be 3 lay people on the bench with advisors as opposed to a judge and jury. There also is a cap on the fine/sentencing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Anyone at a loose end this weekend coming?

    Maritime Festival for everyone http://dungarvanmaritimefestival.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/DungarvanMaritimeFestival


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭jamesdiver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Coming up over the June Bank Holiday, lets hope for nice weather

    http://www.galwayseafestival.com/

    Another one for your calendar
    Currach racing cancelled last week due bad weather new date 26th May

    http://www.discoverireland.com/gb/ireland-things-to-see-and-do/whats-on/listings/product/?fid=FI_506082


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,528 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Not sure if this should go here or in the "what's out there" thread.....

    Queen Mary II due next Thursday (16th), will be anchoring off DL harbour.

    Should be some sight!

    http://www.dublinport.ie/information-centre/next-100-arrivals/


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Queen Elizabeth will be in the same place later in the year as will Arcadia and Oriana (all going to plan)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    How come they are not docking ???


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Tricky to dock a 300+m ship in DL currently. They can in theory swing in the Liffey, but there isn't enough margin for error so Cunard have said no to Dublin Port. But Dublin remains a very attractive destination on cruise calendar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    That's why they come to cork, tie up at the cruise liner berth at Cobh, and let their passengers disembark to see the beautiful sights and sounds of munster.
    showphoto.aspx?photoid=1199783


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,840 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Not sure if this should go here or in the "what's out there" thread.....

    Queen Mary II due next Thursday (16th), will be anchoring off DL harbour.

    Should be some sight!

    http://www.dublinport.ie/information-centre/next-100-arrivals/


    She's only in for 12 hours??

    I'll be at work all day. Would have liked top get a chance to drive out there and have a look at her. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,528 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    She's only in for 12 hours??

    I'll be at work all day. Would have liked top get a chance to drive out there and have a look at her. :(

    http://afloat.ie/port-news/cruise-liners/item/21745-queen-mary-2-cruise-liner-in-dun-laoghaire-6am-thurs-may-16

    http://afloat.ie/port-news/cruise-liners/item/21773-final-preparations-underway-as-dun-laoghaire-gears-up-for-rms-queen-mary-2?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    Don't think she'll be leaving till midnight. So all evening to get out and have a look.

    We'll be racing Thursday evening, hope our course brings us somewhere nearby - I wonder could they make her an extra mark of the course? :D


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    http://afloat.ie/port-news/cruise-liners/item/21745-queen-mary-2-cruise-liner-in-dun-laoghaire-6am-thurs-may-16

    http://afloat.ie/port-news/cruise-liners/item/21773-final-preparations-underway-as-dun-laoghaire-gears-up-for-rms-queen-mary-2?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    Don't think she'll be leaving till midnight. So all evening to get out and have a look.

    We'll be racing Thursday evening, hope our course brings us somewhere nearby - I wonder could they make her an extra mark of the course? :D

    My source in Dublin Port says the pilot is booked for a 1800 departure.

    Also arriving in Dun Laoghaire is SERENISSIMA (http://www.msserenissima.com/serenissima/) a very historic little ship.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    According to Dublin Port as posted above she departs at 1800


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,528 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    My source in Dublin Port says the pilot is booked for a 1800 departure.

    Also arriving in Dun Laoghaire is SERENISSIMA (http://www.msserenissima.com/serenissima/) a very historic little ship.
    Storm 10 wrote: »
    According to Dublin Port as posted above she departs at 1800

    Readers of the Afloat article won't be too impressed if they arrive out in the evening for a look, only to see a shrinking dot on the horizon :(


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




    An X-47B Unmanned Combat Air System (UCAS) demonstrator flies over the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77). George H.W. Bush is the first aircraft carrier to successfully catapult launch an unmanned aircraft from its flight deck.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    We all known that video of the USS ship demanding a lighthouse alter course to avoid collision, well here's what a similar situation would sound like on the bridge of a US warship including the collision with a VLCC.

    http://www.navytimes.com/article/20130514/NEWS/305140001/Hear-audio-Chaos-bridge-before-brutal-ship-collision
    Miraculously, no one was injured on either ship in the collision, which took the destroyer out of service for a month and will cost the service upward of $50 million to fix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Near miss in the bay earlier today.

    FB/Tweet from the Baily:
    Jonathan swift blasted 5 horns in bay and went into reverse. Was it for cruise ship coming out? VTS silent!

    264573_10151921115354622_1821278721_n.jpg


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Is it possible to go back in time on a site like http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ to have a look at this incident?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Couldnt be real, hills in the backround...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭zagmund


    You can click on the vessel and "show vessels track".

    I had a look earlier to see, but I couldn't see anything unduly odd other than that the Swift took about 15 minutes on the approach to the harbour - this seems a little long.

    The other vessel is the Caribbean Princes (one 's' according to what I can see) and it's off Arklow at the moment. If you click on it, show vessels track and go back up to Dublin you see it heading out about 1800. The Jonathan Swift was coming in around the same time (as you can see in the photo) but there's nothing obvious in the tracks.

    It would be cool/interesting/nerdy if you could pick two vessels and plot their routes over time but I don't think you can do it with marinetraffic.com.

    z


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    The Swift is in port at the moment, so I clicked for its track. Can't get a time stamp on the positions for either vessel, nor can I get both tracks up at the same time. However, you can see the Swift at erratic speed (assuming constant time sampling) with a slight kink in the track when viewed close-up, and the Carribean Princess (off Wicklow right now) taking what might well be an evasive maneouvre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭zagmund


    Dub13 wrote: »
    Couldnt be real, hills in the backround...?

    It looks like it's taken through a telescope, so the depth of field thing would be shortened. If I'm reading it right then it's taken from north of the bay, back towards the Dublin hills/mountains.

    I was looking at it from Blackrock as it was heading out of Dublin. I didn't hear any alarm, but then I wasn't listening, the kitchen was noisy, etc . . . . so I could easily have missed it.

    z


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Dub13 wrote: »
    Couldnt be real, hills in the backround...?

    No, very real. It's from the telescope in the Baily Lighthouse where Decisions [D4H] are based. They do emergency and incident response software solutions and a neighbour who works there and for the Coastguard has regular pix on his FB page. They also have a webcam pointing over the Bay at: http://webcam.d4h.org/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭zagmund


    tricky D wrote: »
    The Swift is in port at the moment, so I clicked for its track. Can't get a time stamp on the positions for either vessel, nor can I get both tracks up at the same time. However, you can see the Swift at erratic speed (assuming constant time sampling) with a slight kink in the track when viewed close-up, and the Carribean Princess (off Wicklow right now) taking what might well be an evasive maneouvre.

    If you hover over the graphed points you can see the time for each location. I tried to correlate the wiggle on the Swift & the deviation on the Princes but they seemed to be out a little - when the Swift wiggled (1758) the Princes was still inside the South Bull Wall. The time stamps could be out - I'm not familiar enough with AIS to know whether it's absolute or not, but I imagine it needs to be.

    z


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Yup, I usually get the time stamp but today there's just a question mark appearing for some unknown reason.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A 19th-century self-propelled torpedo, one of the first ever to be developed and used by the Navy, has been discovered by specially trained dolphins off the San Diego coast.

    The 130-year-old Howell torpedo was found in March near Hotel del Coronado during a mine-training exercise. The Navy trains and uses dolphins to find and mark the location of underwater objects as part of its Navy Marine Mammal Program.

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/may/20/dolphins-find-century-old-torpedo/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,416 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Anyone in Dublin Port the last couple of weeks will have noticed the Clipper Faith, it was impounded and will be auctioned 14th June to pay outstanding debts.

    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=312268000

    showphoto.aspx?mmsi=312268000&imo=9149677
    The crew of a Ukrainian ship seized in Dublin last March are to be repatriated to the Ukraine after a deal was struck over pay.

    The 17 crew of the MV Clipper Faith have been stranded in Dublin since their ship was arrested on 12 March.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0527/453005-ukrainian-ship/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    tricky D wrote: »
    Near miss in the bay earlier today.


    FB/Tweet from the Baily:
    Quote:
    Jonathan swift blasted 5 horns in bay and went into reverse. Was it for cruise ship coming out? VTS silent!

    Just been looking back over this thread – I’ve always understood that five blasts is sounded by a vessel constrained to a channel, so if the Jonathan Swift draws 3 metres and the Princess draws 8.5, why should the JS get into a hissyfit? Surely it was the Princess that sounded the signal?:confused:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Just been looking back over this thread – I’ve always understood that five blasts is sounded by a vessel constrained to a channel, so if the Jonathan Swift draws 3 metres and the Princess draws 8.5, why should the JS get into a hissyfit? Surely it was the Princess that sounded the signal?:confused:

    Jaysus, you'd have been laughed out the door in Goff's orals class for saying that :pac:
    (d) When vessels in sight of one another are approaching each other and from any cause either vessel fails to understand the intentions or actions of the other, or is in doubt whether sufficient action is being taken by the other to avoid collision, the vessel in doubt shall immediately indicate such doubt by giving at least five short and rapid blasts on the whistle. Such signal may be supplemented by a light signal of at least five short and rapid flashes.

    http://www.stormy.ca/marine/colregs/rule34.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    This is probably not the place to have a discussion. No idea who Goff is and as I’ve never skippered anything over 100m (biggest was a long-haul delivery of a 20m ketch), I’m not worried about Goff and his (her) hilarious friends. At that size and smaller you keep clear everywhere of everything bigger.
    In my simple view, looking at the relative sizes, drafts and positions of the two vessels, it would be a lot more difficult for the Princess (290m drawing 8.5m) to manoeuvre. So I would have expected the JS, (86m drawing 3m ) to stay clear earlier, instead of leaving it until it had to signal five blasts indicating that it doubts the Princess is taking sufficient action to avoid a collision. That's all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭murphym7


    This is probably not the place to have a discussion. No idea who Goff is and as I’ve never skippered anything over 100m (biggest was a long-haul delivery of a 20m ketch), I’m not worried about Goff and his (her) hilarious friends. At that size and smaller you keep clear everywhere of everything bigger.
    In my simple view, looking at the relative sizes, drafts and positions of the two vessels, it would be a lot more difficult for the Princess (290m drawing 8.5m) to manoeuvre. So I would have expected the JS, (86m drawing 3m ) to stay clear earlier, instead of leaving it until it had to signal five blasts indicating that it doubts the Princess is taking sufficient action to avoid a collision. That's all.

    Vivian Gough, aka Viv, aka Kinder. All round legend. Not many Irish guys (in past 20 years) working at sea in the deck department that have not passed though his classroom.

    The guy personally helped me out when I needed it, there are many guys he went the extra mile for.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Jaysus, you'd have been laughed out the door in Goff's orals class for saying that :pac:



    http://www.stormy.ca/marine/colregs/rule34.htm


    Thought it was Gough.


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