Champions Cup no longer on Eir (via BT Sport)

Sheep Shagger · 30-06-2019 9:11am #1

Well this is a pain...effective 1 August 2019 if you want to watch the Champions Cup (outside of the one game shown on Virgin Media or Channel 4), you will have to buy BT Sport as an add on on Sky (presumably it will show on Now TV ?)

https://www.balls.ie/other/sky-sports-distribution-deal-413148

RWC and PRO14 coverage remains on Eir sport.

thomond2006 · 30-06-2019 9:28am

Well I got one good year of it. The pub it is so for the HCC.

Squidgy Black · 30-06-2019 9:31am

Brutal development, no indication as of yet for being able to purchase BT sports as an add on for your Eir package either yet, which means if you want to be able to watch the champions cup and the Pro14 (legally), it'll likely be 60 euro a month for the Sky and BT package, and then 30 euro a month for the Eir add on.

Long live IPTV.

kuang1 · 30-06-2019 10:21am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Brutal development, no indication as of yet for being able to purchase BT sports as an add on for your Eir package either yet, which means if you want to be able to watch the champions cup and the Pro14 (legally), it'll likely be 60 euro a month for the Sky and BT package, and then 30 euro a month for the Eir add on.

Long live IPTV.

Hear hear.

icdg · 30-06-2019 10:47am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Brutal development, no indication as of yet for being able to purchase BT sports as an add on for your Eir package either yet

Eir customer service are saying that customers to eir’s cable TV service, eir Vision, will be able to subscribe to BT Sport as a premium service from 1st August. This won’t be of help to those who were getting BT Sport free as part of an Eir Broadband only package obviously.

Cookiemunster · 30-06-2019 10:50am

Any word from Eir on price reductions for an Eir Sports only package?

icdg · 30-06-2019 10:56am

I wouldn’t be holding up hope on that one. When Setanta GB went bust in 2009 and the Setanta Sports Pack suddenly went from 10 channels down to two (the likes of Setanta Sports 2, Setanta Golf, Setanta Sports News etc - remember them - all closing, while the football club channels and NASN (predecessor of ESPN America)left the pack) the price stayed exactly the same. Granted it was about half the price of what it is now (about €15.99 at the time, I recall).

But eir now has one and only driver of standalone subscriptions - the Pro14. And even then most of Connacht’s games are free to air. Is it worth €30pm?

Former Former · 30-06-2019 12:34pm

Very hard to see anyone paying more than 10-15 euro per month for Eir Sport now

Sheep Shagger · 30-06-2019 1:39pm

Former Former wrote: »

Very hard to see anyone paying more than 10-15 euro per month for Eir Sport now

They still have the PRO14 and RWC but yeah...

ScrubsfanChris · 30-06-2019 3:16pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

They still have the PRO14 and RWC but yeah...

Pro 14 yes.
But all the RWC games are also FTA on ITV who will have coherent and knowledgeable commentary, unlike Eir

Dave_The_Sheep · 30-06-2019 3:22pm

Good aul BT huh.

Jupiter Mulligan · 30-06-2019 3:34pm

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

all the RWC games are also FTA on ITV who will have coherent and knowledgeable commentary .....

...... and 14½ minutes of advertisements at half time. :mad:

Cookiemunster · 30-06-2019 4:23pm

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Pro 14 yes.
But all the RWC games are also FTA on ITV who will have coherent and knowledgeable commentary, unlike Eir

Plus all the Irish games and the knock out stages will be on RTE.

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

...... and 14½ minutes of advertisements at half time. :mad:

That was TV3 last time round wasn't it?

BorneTobyWilde · 30-06-2019 4:27pm

What if you already have a sky subscription with all the channels, sports, movies so on. Does that mean I'll have BT Sports as part of that now?

Finally a reason to kick EIR to the kerb, what a nasty group of people they are.

jelutong · 30-06-2019 4:36pm

The email ends ends thus. "Watch this space for more exciting announcements in the coming months" . No Moto GP, WRC or Supercar on Eirsport. Rubbish channels.

Squidgy Black · 30-06-2019 4:38pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What if you already have a sky subscription with all the channels, sports, movies so on. Does that mean I'll have BT Sports as part of that now?

Finally a reason to kick EIR to the kerb, what a nasty group of people they are.

No, it'll be bundled in a package with sky sports that you can avail of, but you won't get it free of charge.

Former Former · 30-06-2019 5:29pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What if you already have a sky subscription with all the channels, sports, movies so on. Does that mean I'll have BT Sports as part of that now?

Finally a reason to kick EIR to the kerb, what a nasty group of people they are.

Yeah. Instead of getting it for free, now you get to give another 30 quid every month to Sky who are a shoo-in for the next Nobel Peace prize. Awesome.

skillbane · 30-06-2019 6:37pm

I got in touch with Eir as I barely use the service anyway apart from BT Sport so I tried to cancel my contract early. The person I was speaking to on the web chat denied they had to agree to cancel the contract. To me that's a clear change of service and a breach of contract... nothing I can do about it though

Squidgy Black · 30-06-2019 6:46pm

skillbane wrote: »

I got in touch with Eir as I barely use the service anyway apart from BT Sport so I tried to cancel my contract early. The person I was speaking to on the web chat denied they had to agree to cancel the contract. To me that's a clear change of service and a breach of contract... nothing I can do about it though

It depends on what's in your contract, most will include a clause to say offerings are subject to change during the duration of the contract. In fact the below is from the Eir vision terms and conditions:

"The Service that eir provides to you may change from time to time as the
provision of the Service is variable and eir cannot guarantee the availability of
any particular channel or programme which forms part of the Service. This may
occur for reasons beyond eir’s control, including but not limited to decisions of
programme providers, technical difficulties, for reasons that we were not aware
of nor could not have foreseen at the time the programme was advertised or
scheduled, if we believe it will improve the Service or for commercial reasons.
eir shall not be liable to you for any changes, lack of availability or failure to
transmit any advertised eir Vision programme or channels or to do so at the
advertised time. Therefore the Service including any eir Vision programme
contents, channels, channel packages, programming, programming schedules,
channel broadcast hours, channel allocations, and transmission times may change
from time to time or channels or eir Vision programme may no longer be available"

Blinky Plebum · 30-06-2019 6:51pm

I have the Eir Sport Pack (i.e BT sport and Eir Sport) and I have the Sky Sports Pack.

When the switch happens will my subscription still keep the Eir Channels that are left.

I don;t want to have the hassle of having to ring Eir and Sky and set up the subscription again when I already have all the channels.

skillbane · 30-06-2019 6:51pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

It depends on what's in your contract, most will include a clause to say offerings are subject to change during the duration of the contract. In fact the below is from the Eir vision terms and conditions:

"The Service that eir provides to you may change from time to time as the
provision of the Service is variable and eir cannot guarantee the availability of
any particular channel or programme which forms part of the Service. This may
occur for reasons beyond eir’s control, including but not limited to decisions of
programme providers, technical difficulties, for reasons that we were not aware
of nor could not have foreseen at the time the programme was advertised or
scheduled, if we believe it will improve the Service or for commercial reasons.
eir shall not be liable to you for any changes, lack of availability or failure to
transmit any advertised eir Vision programme or channels or to do so at the
advertised time. Therefore the Service including any eir Vision programme
contents, channels, channel packages, programming, programming schedules,
channel broadcast hours, channel allocations, and transmission times may change
from time to time or channels or eir Vision programme may no longer be available"

Well found and thanks for putting in the effort. It seems they are probably covered so.

They only problem I have with Eir's representation of BT Sports is that they promoted the whole BT Sport package so much, seemingly without having a long term agreement with them that they could even guarantee they would have it for the duration of a 12 month contract, but it was enough to catch my eye when making a choice of provider. Not the worst thing in the world, my contract is up in November anyway.

Cookiemunster · 30-06-2019 8:22pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

No RWC on RTE, for the ROI its Virgin Media (the old TV3).

Somebody should tell RTE then.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.rte.ie/amp/1012407/&ved=2ahUKEwiAk5zT9pHjAhVHQMAKHZalCBgQFjAAegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw19nHCOomZ-f_9LiA06IZRE&ampcf=1&cshid=1561922516686

Sheep Shagger · 30-06-2019 10:28pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Somebody should tell RTE then.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.rte.ie/amp/1012407/&ved=2ahUKEwiAk5zT9pHjAhVHQMAKHZalCBgQFjAAegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw19nHCOomZ-f_9LiA06IZRE&ampcf=1&cshid=1561922516686

My mistake- sorry! You are correct.

jelutong · 01-07-2019 1:48pm

Will it still be available on Eirsport Mobile I wonder?

PMC83 · 01-07-2019 1:56pm

jelutong wrote: »

Will it still be available on Eirsport Mobile I wonder?

Nope, it will be fully gone

Prestonites · 01-07-2019 5:07pm

Eir seem to be losing alot of their subs due to cutting this and the UFC events turning them to PPV.

crisco10 · 02-07-2019 3:19pm

I see yow will get BT and Premier Sports on the "Sports Extra" package with Sky. Anyone want to make a guess when it will be available, and how much it will cost?

Squidgy Black · 02-07-2019 3:23pm

crisco10 wrote: »

I see yow will get BT and Premier Sports on the "Sports Extra" package with Sky. Anyone want to make a guess when it will be available, and how much it will cost?

I'm going to guess that it'll be just before the start of the new premiership season (when most people add sky sports to their subscription) and around 60 quid a month in the bundle. They'll likely have a promo offer for it for new customers or people who don't have sky sports already at like 40 quid (they used to do sky sports for 22.50 for 6 months which was half price just before the premier league season).

PMC83 · 02-07-2019 4:48pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I'm going to guess that it'll be just before the start of the new premiership season (when most people add sky sports to their subscription) and around 60 quid a month in the bundle. They'll likely have a promo offer for it for new customers or people who don't have sky sports already at like 40 quid (they used to do sky sports for 22.50 for 6 months which was half price just before the premier league season).

Any idea if this package can be added to Virgin?

Squidgy Black · 02-07-2019 4:59pm

PMC83 wrote: »

Any idea if this package can be added to Virgin?

No clue, haven't worked in the industry for a couple years so just guessing off experience. I'd say it probably will though at some stage, if they can negotiate a deal with Sky.

BIGT4464 · 02-07-2019 5:00pm

I presume it will be gone off Vodafone TV also

Cookiemunster · 24-07-2019 4:25pm

The prices have been released. Existing Sky Sports customers have to pay an extra €10 per month for the first 6 months rising to €20 after that.
Non Sky Sports customers can get BT and Premier without Sky Sports for €17 per month rising to €34 per month after 6 months.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/sky-sports-bt-sport-and-premier-sport-could-cost-92-per-month-1.3965907

PTH2009 · 24-07-2019 4:39pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

The prices have been released. Existing Sky Sports customers have to pay an extra €10 per month for the first 6 months rising to €20 after that.
Non Sky Sports customers can get BT and Premier without Sky Sports for €17 per month rising to €34 per month after 6 months.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/sky-sports-bt-sport-and-premier-sport-could-cost-92-per-month-1.3965907

Better than I thought tbh bloody eir sport not being part of it is annoying

Hopefully Premier sport will carry some of the irish pro 14 games

awec · 24-07-2019 5:14pm

Eir need to drop their price.

aloooof · 24-07-2019 5:15pm

I wonder will get every get to a subscription / stream service where you just sign up for Pro 14, Champions Cup? I've little to no interest in the other sports on these packages.

Squidgy Black · 24-07-2019 5:28pm

aloooof wrote: »

I wonder will get every get to a subscription / stream service where you just sign up for Pro 14, Champions Cup? I've little to no interest in the other sports on these packages.

Doubt it. At the moment the idea is for them to get exclusive rights to certain competitions and then you have to pay for the entire package even if you don't want to watch certain sports. They'll always make more money that way, market is too small for them to split it out for the competitions.

icdg · 24-07-2019 10:30pm

Be careful what you wish for on that front, LaLiga effectively took that gamble with Eleven Sports last season and lost dramatically.

Indeed think of a world where the Six Nations, Rugby Championship, Rugby World Cup, Heineken Cup, Pro14, Premiership Rugby, Top14, Super Rugby - all had their own steaming services with their own individual prices. Then think that many sports fans are fans of more than one sport all of which have their own sets of competitions. Really a better world?

OldRio · 25-07-2019 12:22pm

To get a basic Sky sub and then the BT add on will cost a pretty penny. I'll be looking at Rugby Pass and/or other services.
Also I have eir for the land line at the moment but that's definitely going.

WeleaseWoderick · 25-07-2019 12:47pm

Does Rugby Pass show all Champions Cup & Pro14 matches or just a selection?

Kevski · 25-07-2019 6:57pm

WeleaseWoderick wrote: »

Does Rugby Pass show all Champions Cup & Pro14 matches or just a selection?

It shows all of them live, and also allows you too watch back full games too. It shows Super Rugby, Premiership and The Rugby Championship too.

crisco10 · 26-07-2019 2:52pm

WeleaseWoderick wrote: »

Does Rugby Pass show all Champions Cup & Pro14 matches or just a selection?

I'm guessing with rugby pass, you also need a VPN?

Sheep Shagger · 27-07-2019 11:42am

crisco10 wrote: »

I'm guessing with rugby pass, you also need a VPN?

Yep will be geolocked in Iteland and anywhere else Rugbypass don't have the broadcast rights.

PMC83 · 29-07-2019 5:03pm

Anyone hear of anything regarding adding BT to Virgin? Looks like it won't be a runner:(

icdg · 29-07-2019 8:51pm

Not happening apparently, for reasons which likely have little to do with rugby and more to do with the UEFA Champions League which is VM Sport’s flagship property. The only wholesale deal announced is with Vodafone, while eir have made noises about doing a wholesale deal but nothing concrete has been announced.

lawred2 · 29-07-2019 8:53pm

Paid TV has jumped the shark. Too many operators each trying their own slice of the pie. What will ultimately happen is that sports fans will decide not to bother as no package will come near to covering the sports they want sufficiently.

PMC83 · 30-07-2019 8:24am

icdg wrote: »

Not happening apparently, for reasons which likely have little to do with rugby and more to do with the UEFA Champions League which is VM Sport’s flagship property. The only wholesale deal announced is with Vodafone, while eir have made noises about doing a wholesale deal but nothing concrete has been announced.

Such a pity! Would happily pay for it if I could

legohouse · 18-10-2019 1:32pm

https://www.nowtv.com/ie/offers
BT Sports is now available on the NowTV app.
€17pm for 3 months. Will cover you for all the pool matches anyway
or €30pm if you include the regular sky sports package for Premier league

ScrubsfanChris · 18-10-2019 4:12pm

legohouse wrote: »

https://www.nowtv.com/ie/offers
BT Sports is now available on the NowTV app.
€17pm for 3 months. Will cover you for all the pool matches anyway
or €30pm if you include the regular sky sports package for Premier league

Thanks, that great.

Just some advice, a "month" according to NowTV is 30 days.
So to get all six rounds of the Championship, don't sign up until next Tuesday 22nd

giveitholly · 09-11-2019 9:58pm

Do Virgin Media have one game a week they can show on FTA and if they do then what games are they showing in the first 4 rounds before Christmas?

ScrubsfanChris · 09-11-2019 10:13pm

giveitholly wrote: »

Do Virgin Media have one game a week they can show on FTA and if they do then what games are they showing in the first 4 rounds before Christmas?

1. Bath v Ulster
2. Saracens v Ospreys
3. Northampton v Leinster
4. Leinster v Northampton
5. Ospreys v Saracens

No info for round 6.

Tigerandahalf · 10-11-2019 10:09pm

Now tv has sky sports and bt for €30 p/m for 3 months. Offer ends around the 22nd of November.

Champions Cup no longer on Eir (via BT Sport)

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