New Development Royal Canal Park D15

fret_wimp2 · 05-02-2017 10:26am

summerplans wrote: »

Thanks. There was a queue from the day before but it was well organised by the people there and Sherry Fitzgerald ran it very well in the morning thankfully.

Good to hear. Did they sell out?

mandy662 · 05-02-2017 10:56am

Hey everyone,
Managed to pick up a 3 bed in yesterday's launch (an iris)
Forgot to ask though, do the houses comes with the built in wardrobes?

And for anyone that got an Iris in previous phases, did you manage for fit your washing machine/dryer nicely into the utility space under where the stairs is?

Also really curious about the width of the kitchen between the counters, as in the width of your walking space from cooker to sink if that makes sense!

Pity they had no show houses of the iris!

Manion · 05-02-2017 1:38pm

summerplans wrote: »

Thanks. There was a queue from the day before but it was well organised by the people there and Sherry Fitzgerald ran it very well in the morning thankfully.

Sherry Fitz still telling people not to bother turning up before 12 on the day. Must be a liability thing, but yes queuing the night before was happening all the way back in phase 2.

fret_wimp2 wrote: »

Who needs to sign off on it though? I asked Tom In ballymore and he just gave me numbers for the plumber and the electrician and told me to work it out with them. It felt very unofficial as I assumed changes would need to go through ballymore, rather than me trying to sync changes with a plumber and an electrician

Ballymore takes no responsibility for alterations agreed between you and their subcontractors. It's something to note that it will be you doing the chasing if something is wrong.

Something to note is that changing the layout of the radiators can impact the term al efficiency of your home. The houses are actually incredibly well designed. You only start to realise how effective the design is when you start to think about how it might be changed.

cronos wrote: »

Your getting the showhouse. The plans are old. Any changes from showhouse layout require agreement. I've heard some people being charged.

Any reason for wanting the radiatior on that wall to the kitchen. I'd have thought it better behind a couch on either the wall closest to the hallway or the opposite side.

But you can ask for there to be the following options between the kitchen and living room:

1. Just a wall matching the showhouse
2. No wall
3. Wall with double door opening
4. Wall with double door opening and a double door (have to pay for that I think)
5. Pocket doors (circa 1700 euro)

We where initially told no wall was an option, but it isn't. You can have an double door opening in the wall with no doors.

slayerking · 05-02-2017 4:53pm

We nabbed a Heron is yesterdays launch.

Were looking at requesting some modifications to it - specifically installing pocket doors between kitchen - living room and possibly moving the island a little bit towards the back door.

If anyone has done such modifications I would really appreciate some tips/ideas and if you have any pictures that would be great also (via PM).

Keithchap · 05-02-2017 5:12pm

According to myhome and Sherry Fitz website the current phase is already sold out.

I wonder did they all sell out on the Saturday/yesterday.

Miss Lemon · 05-02-2017 5:16pm

Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has thought about their plans for managing bicycle storage?

Gumbo · 05-02-2017 5:25pm

Miss Lemon wrote: »

Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has thought about their plans for managing bicycle storage?

Shed in back garden?

Miss Lemon · 05-02-2017 5:28pm

I think this works if youre not using regularly but not ideal to be carrying bikes through the house on a daily basis if you use to commute...

Nhol78 · 05-02-2017 5:32pm

I was over at the show houses today, Heron with two car parking spaces are now 445K!!! and they have all sold out..

fret_wimp2 · 05-02-2017 5:33pm

Miss Lemon wrote: »

I think this works if youre not using regularly but not ideal to be carrying bikes through the house on a daily basis if you use to commute...

Unfortunately it's just the way it is. No access to the back garden is a bummer, but it's made clear if you ask, and it's clear on the site plan.

We debated it before deciding it wasn't a deal breaker.

cronos · 05-02-2017 6:52pm

Miss Lemon wrote: »

Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has thought about their plans for managing bicycle storage?

I'm looking into bike hooks for the hallway. Alternatively you could use the downstairs bathroom. Plenty big to fit one at least.

Would be nice to have some communal bike sheds or something though.

Bruncvik · 05-02-2017 6:56pm

Nhol78 wrote: »

I was over at the show houses today, Heron with two car parking spaces are now 445K!!! and they have all sold out..

We went there today, too, just to ask which houses were being sold and how the sale went (and to take a photo of the media wall to have it done elsewhere). We were told that all houses were sold on Saturday. No Ashes in that phase, so we're curious about their asking price in the final phase, and how new buyers will react to that price.

cronos · 05-02-2017 6:57pm

Bruncvik wrote: »

We went there today, too, just to ask which houses were being sold and how the sale went (and to take a photo of the media wall to have it done elsewhere). We were told that all houses were sold on Saturday. No Ashes in that phase, so we're curious about their asking price in the final phase, and how new buyers will react to that price.

What houses were on sale on Saturday out of interest?

Bruncvik · 05-02-2017 7:12pm

I was the section between the supermarket site and the canal. Mainly Herons and Irises, with a few corner houses. We were told that the Irises sold out first.

cronos · 05-02-2017 7:14pm

Bruncvik wrote: »

I was the section between the supermarket site and the canal. Mainly Herons and Irises, with a few corner houses. We were told that the Irises sold out first.

Herons 445k and Irises 350?

Gumbo · 05-02-2017 7:39pm

Miss Lemon wrote: »

I think this works if youre not using regularly but not ideal to be carrying bikes through the house on a daily basis if you use to commute...

When I'm commuting on continuous days, I just leave the bike in the hall. It if I know I won't need it tomorrow, it goes in the shed.

Shared bike storage is a nightmare for upkeep, liability and they you run the risk of someone else damaging your bike or you damaging someone else's. Then the structure will not be in view of everyone that uses it so theft risk increases.

slayerking · 05-02-2017 8:31pm

cronos wrote: »

Herons 445k and Irises 350?

Iris 345k
Rushes 370k (detached)
Hazel 410k
Heron 435k
Willow 455k

They're the 'from' prices so some houses were more. I.e. The Heron price is one parking space. 10k more for the extra one.

A good price increase from the last phase but this phase was always going to be more given its location overlooking the canal.

cronos · 05-02-2017 8:45pm

slayerking wrote: »

Iris 345k
Rushes 370k (detached)
Hazel 410k
Heron 435k
Willow 455k

They're the 'from' prices so some houses were more. I.e. The Heron price is one parking space. 10k more for the extra one.

A good price increase from the last phase but this phase was always going to be more given its location overlooking the canal.

Yes the canal and no busy road. Plus the help to buy.

tippmon · 06-02-2017 10:30am

We are in a similar position re Kitchen - we'd be very interested in any alternative kitchen layouts - moving the island- removing the island or even making a peninsula (if possible!!)

Keithchap · 06-02-2017 10:58am

Intertesting link on the plan for the site next to Rathborne, accross from the Ashtown train station:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1842436&page=2

Nhol78 · 06-02-2017 11:07am

tippmon wrote: »

We are in a similar position re Kitchen - we'd be very interested in any alternative kitchen layouts - moving the island- removing the island or even making the a peninsula (if possible!!)

I have two drawings for a modified kitchen layout, I am happy to share them, PM me an e-mail address to send them to.

slayerking · 06-02-2017 11:25am

Nhol78 wrote: »

I have two drawings for a modified kitchen layout, I am happy to share them, PM me an e-mail address to send them to.

PM sent. Very interested in some ideas for the kitchen layout and the pocket doors between kitchen and living room.

Miss Lemon · 06-02-2017 2:40pm

Thanks for the comments on bike situation- agree with all said. By no means do we see it as a deal breaker either but was just wondering what practical solutions others had come up with!

Nhol78 · 06-02-2017 4:00pm

I have mailed everyone details on a different kitchen layout for the island in the middle. If you did not get it then let me know.

summerplans · 06-02-2017 6:37pm

fret_wimp2 wrote: »

Good to hear. Did they sell out?

Yeah quite quickly

andreionut · 06-02-2017 9:46pm

Miss Lemon wrote: »

Thanks for the comments on bike situation- agree with all said. By no means do we see it as a deal breaker either but was just wondering what practical solutions others had come up with!

I was thinking about storing it somehow under the stairs. I don't have a bike so I might get a folding one, but from seeing the house on Friday there seems to be a bit of space in there.

Bandana boy · 06-02-2017 10:24pm

Would a bike fit in where the bins are stored ?

andreionut · 06-02-2017 10:38pm

Bandana boy wrote: »

Would a bike fit in where the bins are stored ?

I was thinking the same until I saw that The bin storage has no roof.

Kevpaul1 · 06-02-2017 10:59pm

Bandana boy wrote: »

Would a bike fit in where the bins are stored ?

from the plans lodged as part of the Planning application, the little area for the bins is labelled as "Bins and Bike Storage".. If there was a secure way to lock the bike to the wall it would be ok but probably too small to fit both bins and even 1 bike i think.

cronos · 07-02-2017 12:10am

Kevpaul1 wrote: »

from the plans lodged as part of the Planning application, the little area for the bins is labelled as "Bins and Bike Storage".. If there was a secure way to lock the bike to the wall it would be ok but probably too small to fit both bins and even 1 bike i think.

I've heard it's too small to fit a bike. But have not tried myself.

mandy662 · 08-02-2017 6:44pm

Just wondering could anyone confirm if there is a shower in the main bathroom of the iris?
It's not on the layout/plans but is on the ash

Manion · 08-02-2017 7:12pm

Is it just me or are the driveways on bridge avenue shorter than the ones on Royal canal avenue and Phelan avenue?

Seems every single car is jutting out onto the footpath.

cronos · 08-02-2017 9:31pm

Manion wrote: »

Is it just me or are the driveways on bridge avenue shorter than the ones on Royal canal avenue and Phelan avenue?

Seems every single car is jutting out onto the footpath.

I think so also. Your not the first person to say it to me either. I think we got screwed there.

slayerking · 08-02-2017 10:16pm

Does anyone have a contact (phone/email) in Ballymore for requesting/discussing changes? I've heard Tom being mentioned in the thread so maybe hes the man. Probably via PM as per charter.

Manion · 08-02-2017 10:46pm

slayerking wrote: »

Does anyone have a contact (phone/email) in Ballymore for requesting/discussing changes? I've heard Tom being mentioned in the thread so maybe hes the man. Probably via PM as per charter.

http://www.ballymoregroup.com/get-in-touch

If you ring the number listed they will give you the direct line to the site office.

cronos wrote: »

I think so also. Your not the first person to say it to me either. I think we got screwed there.

Maybe or maybe not, perhaps my longer drive way is why my garden is shorter than advertised.

Manion · 10-02-2017 12:28am

cronos wrote: »

Did anyone notice that they seem to be looking for planning permission not to build the new residents gym? (I'm aware of the RCP apartments gym) This new gym was a major selling point for the estate so I'm quite annoyed. Anyone else feel the same?

http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=2063/17&theTabNo=1

That seems very poor. There are other vacant retail units available, why should we loose our gym?

From the planning application it's not clear if this is where the new developement gym is though.

googlewhack · 10-02-2017 12:35am

We were told only last week that the new gym would be opened by the end of this year. Seems a very odd decision.

Manion · 10-02-2017 12:55am

cronos wrote: »

It's possible it's just a part of it. But I'd have expected some level of communication.

Just seems easy to build all the houses, sell them off, then renege on the gym. Probably followed by the train station never getting built haha

As I say, I'd suggest putting in a comment on the application stating what you have been told.

All you sure it's the same unit? The planning permission places In a different lo where the gym is sign posted to be.

PhoenixParker · 10-02-2017 1:38am

If you read that planning permission it says that they're planning to start on the new gym in the next few weeks. The site isn't where the new gym is meant to go.

The refurb they've done on the existing gym is lovely too.

cronos · 10-02-2017 10:02am

PhoenixParker wrote: »

If you read that planning permission it says that they're planning to start on the new gym in the next few weeks. The site isn't where the new gym is meant to go.

The refurb they've done on the existing gym is lovely too.

I stand corrected. Ignore my previous comments. The description threw me off.

Note to mod. Probably worth deleting the last few comments just not to cause confusion.

mynameissinead · 10-02-2017 10:41am

Hi, we put a deposit down on one of the new Heron's last weekend. I would be really interested in seeing the alternative kitchen plans as I'm not a fan of the current layout, can someone share them with me?
Also, I know some people have added shower heads to the showers / bath, any idea how much the builders are charging for this modification?
Thanks a mill.

Rosia · 10-02-2017 12:08pm

Hi, does anyone know when the next houses are going to be released? I know that they're the ones on the most right hand side but haven't gotten any more information. From looking at the plans, most of these houses seems to have two parking spaces so I assume the price will be raised to cover this.
Also, could anyone give me a bit more information on the last launch day? At what point did people start queuing the day before and how did that work?
Thanks!

JustAThought · 10-02-2017 12:13pm

Rosia wrote: »

Hi, does anyone know when the next houses are going to be released? I know that they're the ones on the most right hand side but haven't gotten any more information. From looking at the plans, most of these houses seems to have two parking spaces so I assume the price will be raised to cover this.
Also, could anyone give me a bit more information on the last launch day? At what point did people start queuing the day before and how did that work?
Thanks!

I'd be running a mile from all these new accounts celebrating new estates and cheerleading price rises & proposing queung all night. estate agent much. As regards buying I'd be scrutunising every detail extremely closely and asking a lot of questionsand demanding answers from the vendor in writing - and from a company account.

Rosia · 10-02-2017 12:22pm

Well, I'm not an estate agent. I would much prefer if the price did not increase and if I did not have to even consider queuing for a house, but from reading through the thread it would appear that the last release of houses sold out immediately. I'm considering this estate after several visits to the estate, lots of questions and careful deliberation. I posted here in the hope of getting some more information, that's it.

fret_wimp2 · 10-02-2017 12:25pm

JustAThought wrote: »

I'd be running a mile from all these new accounts celebrating new estates and cheerleading price rises & proposing queung all night. estate agent much. As regards buying I'd be scrutunising every detail extremely closely and asking a lot of questionsand demanding answers from the vendor in writing - and from a company account.

Havnt seen many people cheerleading price increases here, in fact this thread is very objective and helpful overall.

rosia wrote:

, does anyone know when the next houses are going to be released? I know that they're the ones on the most right hand side but haven't gotten any more information. From looking at the plans, most of these houses seems to have two parking spaces so I assume the price will be raised to cover this.
Also, could anyone give me a bit more information on the last launch day? At what point did people start queuing the day before and how did that work?
Thanks!

Phase 3 was just released last weekend and sold out. Unsure of how many houses exactly, there are details back a page or two in this thread, but guestimating 20-30 properties, varying from 3 to 4 bed.

Prices seem to go up by 15-20k each phase, with last phase being a bit more expensive due to being right alongside the canal.

Some houses have one parking space, some have two, the ones with two are more expensive. It's you're decision if you need two, or if there's even a property available with two.

Regarding the selling process, people usually queue from the night before outside the office on site and it's first come first served. Anyone who doesn't get a house can jump on a waiting list in case others pullout.

I heard Phase 2 release was a bit unorganized, with queue jumping and people losing their place due to sherry Fitz not keeping track of things or running it in an organized manner.

Word is phase 3 launch last week was much better organized, but people still queued up from the night before. You need to be early and very assertive to ensure you get a spot.

To be notified about the next phase get in touch with sherry Fitz. They will add you to a mailing list that is usually notified a few days before launch, but also call them weekly and ask as I am on that list, yet never got an email.

If you really want a house, join the waiting list as there are dropouts. Thsts how we got ours, no queueing! Less choice however but these are the decisions we made.

PhoenixParker · 10-02-2017 12:34pm

Rosia wrote: »

Hi, does anyone know when the next houses are going to be released? I know that they're the ones on the most right hand side but haven't gotten any more information. From looking at the plans, most of these houses seems to have two parking spaces so I assume the price will be raised to cover this.
Also, could anyone give me a bit more information on the last launch day? At what point did people start queuing the day before and how did that work?
Thanks!

I believe the queue actually started at 730 Friday morning by someone who wanted a specific house of which there was only 1. People who arrived early on Saturday morning got the last houses. Three beds tend to sell out before four beds. Prices tend to rise by about €30k a phase but that varies a lot.

A second parking space adds €10k to the list price, or it has to date.

Next phase I'd estimate as June/July but that's very much a guess.

I'll second the recommendation to keep an eye for drop outs.

There will be another phase after that on the far side of centra. It's a separate planning application.

Bandana boy · 10-02-2017 12:39pm

I believe it was 22 houses last time out

First person in the queue was 7am Friday morning
By Midnight Friday that was 15 or so People
Not sure anybody who arrived after about 8am Sat got a house

Next phase will be ~24 house I believe and certainly for the 4 beds this will be the most desirable Phase as this will be the quietest road

4 bed two parking spaces went up to 445K most recent phase which was a jump of ~40K so plan on at least 20K on top of that for last phase would be my guess.

If you are going to queue make sure you announce yourself when you arrive , people queuing put together the list not Sherry last time out and there was some queue jumping attempted.

Bandana boy · 10-02-2017 12:46pm

One thing I might warn is that there was a lot of people turning up around 12 who looked like they were interested in buying and lost out so queue could be bigger next time out.

Keithchap · 10-02-2017 1:09pm

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Rosia wrote: »

Hi, does anyone know when the next houses are going to be released? I know that they're the ones on the most right hand side but haven't gotten any more information. From looking at the plans, most of these houses seems to have two parking spaces so I assume the price will be raised to cover this.
Also, could anyone give me a bit more information on the last launch day? At what point did people start queuing the day before and how did that work?
Thanks!

I believe the queue actually started at 730 Friday morning by someone who wanted a specific house of which there was only 1. People who arrived early on Saturday morning got the last houses. Three beds tend to sell out before four beds. Prices tend to rise by about €30k a phase but that varies a lot.

A second parking space adds €10k to the list price, or it has to date.

Next phase I'd estimate as June/July but that's very much a guess.

I'll second the recommendation to keep an eye for drop outs.

There will be another phase after that on the far side of centra. It's a separate planning application.

People who got there early Saturday morning got the last 3 beds, there were still plenty of 4 beds left, they sold later in the day.

janeybaby · 10-02-2017 1:16pm

Hi Rosia,

To answer some of your questions:

- 10k more for a house with a second car space.

- Talk of the next phase being possibly sold in March 2017 but that they
would not be ready until Spring next year, as phase 3 still had to be built.
That was said as not concrete so worth keeping you eye out over the next
while if you are interested.

- We were told queue for the last phase started on the Friday and that
there was some trouble from a couple that arrived early on sat claiming
they were first in line. EA said things apparently got very
heated when they arrived but you'll always get people with that sense of
entitlement.

By the sound of it people who had been queuing overnight kept their own list which worked well when EA showed up.

New Development Royal Canal Park D15

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