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  • #1002
    heretogetreal
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭heretogetreal


    Emmser wrote: »
    They're on Instagram not Snapchat. The girl is from the Reddit forum. It is clear what its intention is; to show young girls that Instagram life is not real life.

    Ironically, it shows how the MUF shared a post five days ago about Britney Spears, two pics side by side of her face, saying me on the Internet versus me in real life. Very ironical that she thinks she isn't a bully because Britney is American but if someone does it to an 'Irish Celeb', it's bullying.

    Also can anyone remember which blogger it was that shared a recent snap of Kylie Jenner entitled 'when the Snapchat filter comes off'? I remember seeing it on a snapchat story.

    Louise Cooney has totally pulled her horns back in. She said this isn't the page that caused her to go on a bullying rant and to stand up to bullies. God, more lies.

    Of course she’d pull her horns back in, the girl hasn't an original thought in her head to put it lightly so only in keeping with her trend-lead ‘style’ that she’d jump on the trend of boo-hooing about being bullied before realising it might cost her a sponsored post or two and pull back.

    She’s the worst for promoting anything for a fee, clearly in it for the money so after the excitement of getting involved wore thin she was obviously going to panic about how this might affect how much cash she’s squeezing from her dull-as-dishwater insta by daring to have an opinion.


  • #1003
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    I genuinely wanted to see what all the fuss is about so I requested to follow the page but my request so far has been ignored. So I can't decide for myself if it falls into the realm of bullying or not.

    I see Cherrysue targeted it yesterday as being direct singling out and bullying and I'd normally trust and endorse her opinion so I would like to see for myself.


  • #1004
    njs030
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    I genuinely wanted to see what all the fuss is about so I requested to follow the page but my request so far has been ignored. So I can't decide for myself if it falls into the realm of bullying or not.

    I see Cherrysue targeted it yesterday as being direct singling out and bullying and I'd normally trust and endorse her opinion so I would like to see for myself.

    There is thousands and thousands of requests waiting according to the owner of the instagram page. She said that on the reddit thread.
    Cherry sue isnt above taking jabs at bloggers herself but doesn't name names so does it very slyly. Most people know who she's talking about though.
    I don't follow her myself because I don't like those underhand tactics tbh. Either say it straight or keep it to yourself, that is bitchy and two faced.


  • #1005
    heretogetreal
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭heretogetreal


    Has even one bloggers responded and not given the same copy-and-paste opinion? It’d be refreshing (to say the least) so see even half an original opinion coming from these people.

    They’re well able to have strong thoughts when being paid to talk about the latest lipstick, where are all the original thoughts now?


  • #1006
    Dublingarda
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Dublingarda


    I don't think it's bullying at all.

    I found myself following these people for fashion,makeup and fitness tips which they gave me from the beginning. But since they all have made a business out of it the fame has gone to their heads and they don't give good content. Like I don't think followers need to know you are going to your brothers house for dinner or that you have just dropped your Son off to creche and your sitting outside it to see if you get a phone call to say he is unsettled.if I want a reality tv show I'll watch the kardashians.

    They all thank us for our support but when we simple question or suggest improving what they offer to us they jump on the defensive.

    My new years resolution was to stop wasting time watching ****e. You all seem greatly opinionated and effected by this so why not take a leaf out of my book and unfollow them.


  • #1007
    heretogetreal
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭heretogetreal


    notjustsweet wrote: »
    There is thousands and thousands of requests waiting according to the owner of the instagram page. She said that on the reddit thread.
    Cherry sue isnt above taking jabs at bloggers herself but doesn't name names so does it very slyly. Most people know who she's talking about though.
    I don't follow her myself because I don't like those underhand tactics tbh. Either say it straight or keep it to yourself, that is bitchy and two faced.

    How can I search for that thread please? I’m lost on Reddit.


  • #1008
    njs030
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    heretogetreal wrote: »
    Has even one bloggers responded and not given the same copy-and-paste opinion? It’d be refreshing (to say the least) so see even half an original opinion coming from these people.

    They’re well able to have strong thoughts when being paid to talk about the latest lipstick, where are all the original thoughts now?

    Rosemary Mc did, Dublin girlo has written some very well worded insta posts on the subject.
    Have a look at honthehuns on instagram they have a dear Irish influencers post that sums up the issue very well.


  • #1009
    heretogetreal
    Registered Users Posts: 39 ✭heretogetreal


    notjustsweet wrote: »
    Rosemary Mc did, Dublin girlo has written some very well worded insta posts on the subject.
    Have a look at honthehuns on instagram they have a dear Irish influencers post that sums up the issue very well.

    Yea I’m thinking Instagram but should look on Twitter too, thanks.

    Just saw Sarah Hanrahan’s IG stories about it there, she takes a totally refreshing point of view. Hoping there’ll be more bloggers like her and RmC.


  • #1010
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    So highlighting that people alter pictures on social is now bullying. Alot of the problems that affect young girls stem from these altered imagined that they are bombarded with on a daily basis.

    Eating disorders, low self esteem, bolemia etc can be the outcome of glsmourizing these false body images with Photoshop and filters


  • #1011
    njs030
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    notjustsweet wrote: »
    Rosemary Mc did, Dublin girlo has written some very well worded insta posts on the subject.
    Have a look at honthehuns on instagram they have a dear Irish influencers post that sums up the issue very well.

    Just to add to this - the original question was if any bloggers had responded with a different opinion - Rosie has changed her opinion this morning and while she still says online bullying is wrong (obviously we all know that!) she agrees that using photoshop a huge amount isn't right.

    The beautiful truth has recently posted on snapchat saying she feels influencers have to be more responsible with the images they portray to young girls and the pressure that those images might put on them.
    She then linked to a petition for a suicide prevention authority to be created in Ireland.


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  • #1012
    sashafierce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • #1013
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Ok. I've seen some of the pics. They do tend to focus very much on the MUF.

    I don't know what to think. I've thought for a long time she would benefit greatly from a complete break from social media but I suppose that's not easy when it is your livelihood.

    I'm kinda on the fence.


  • #1014
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    If she didn't edit all her images to the point of not looking remotely like herself they wouldn't be focusing on her. Nobody is accusing her of looking awful or bad or fat in the real pics they're calling out that she does not look like her photoshopped images. That's not bullying, that's fact


  • #1015
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    They mainly focus on her because she's the main culprit of distorting your appearance to such an extent it wouldn't actually be physically possible to have that kind of body without removing several organs or severely damaging them.

    If I have one criticism of the page it's that it probably should have mainly focused on photoshop before and after pics, rather than old pics vs new pics. Mainly because sure we all looked at state at once but most importantly because it gave those effected a handy get out of jail free line, "sure don't we all look different now".. etc.. and enabled them to twist the narrative into something it was never meant to be about.


  • #1016
    njs030
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    Ok. I've seen some of the pics. They do tend to focus very much on the MUF.

    I don't know what to think. I've thought for a long time she would benefit greatly from a complete break from social media but I suppose that's not easy when it is your livelihood.

    I'm kinda on the fence.

    Yes they do. She photoshops herself to look 2-3 sizes smaller in comparison to photos taken on the same day.
    She didn't care that the majority of comments were saying how amazing she looked naturally, all she can see is this ideal fake version of herself.

    In her instagram rant today she's called herself a fat girl at size 14-16 - let's remember she's 5'10 - and insisted she's now a size 10 as she does in every conversation with everyone, really who other than her cares about it!

    The issue is the person most ashamed is her, she's the one hiding her body shape, and pretending to be someone she isn't.
    Maybe she needs help and nows the time to get it.


  • #1017
    sashafierce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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  • #1018
    lisasimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    I see joanne put up a post saying shes crying the last number of days. While people are feeling sorry for her they are also asking her to give up photoshop and editing pictures to be more real...


  • #1019
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    lisasimpson wrote: »
    I see joanne put up a post saying shes crying the last number of days. While people are feeling sorry for her they are also asking her to give up photoshop and editing pictures to be more real...

    There's a very simple solution to the problem she keeps facing. Stop over manipulating your pics. It's really not that complicated but she just won't do it


  • #1020
    lisasimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Maybe thebeautifultruth could give them all a few lesson.. all people want is some honesty, requestinf honesty isnt bullying


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  • #1021
    222233
    Registered Users Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    I think it's fantastic that they have addressed bullying. I don't think they are referring to just the IG account with the before and after pics I believe it's the manner in which people speculate and talk about them online in general. I remember some months back being horrified by some of what I read in this thread, no one deserves to be torn down for no reason. On defending the MUF at the time separate posters asked me if I was the MUF - To me this almost suggests that alot of the time positivity is not expected , the fact that I had something good to say meant I couldn't be a genuine poster, I was then told it was because I was "fangirling", when actually I was just pointing out that there are positives to every person and really who cares what they do. My point is that there is alot of negativity towards these men / women alot of it for no good or productive reason, live and let live. I'm glad that they have addressed this and going forward I hope that people will be more considerate of the fact that these influencers are in fact real people, who likely see all the things people write about them online.


  • #1022
    ace_irl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭ace_irl


    I re-framed from saying anything on the matter for awhile because I honestly had so many different feelings on this whole thing. When everything kicked off, and despite what they have now said, it was in direct relation to the Instagram. Now I haven't gone on and seen it myself but their intial response was aggressive and they wanted to intimidate people into stopping because they don't like it. That is the very defintion of bullying in itself, but I am not saying they are bullies.

    Anyway, I was very upset at all this because it brought back tough memories for me from when I was bullied. I wish it was online and I could avoid the mean nasty things people were saying and block them but I couldn't, because I was actually bullied in person.

    What I just don't get is that if they want people who aren't happy with them to just unfollow them and so on, why don't they just stop reading what's said about them and go about their lives? Live by what they preach and just don't read it.

    I get that people send them nasty messages, and that is vile and cowardly, but there's always going to be people who just aren't right in the head.

    The industry is starting to dry up, and I think they've started to notice this, that's why they are all coming out with products and opening companies, I just hope that they actually do something that does benefit the many people who are victims of bullying instead of just blowing steam to keep themselves relevant.


  • #1023
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    222233 wrote: »
    I think it's fantastic that they have addressed bullying. I don't think they are referring to just the IG account with the before and after pics I believe it's the manner in which people speculate and talk about them online in general. I remember some months back being horrified by some of what I read in this thread, no one deserves to be torn down for no reason. On defending the MUF at the time separate posters asked me if I was the MUF - To me this almost suggests that alot of the time positivity is not expected , the fact that I had something good to say meant I couldn't be a genuine poster, I was then told it was because I was "fangirling", when actually I was just pointing out that there are positives to every person and really who cares what they do. My point is that there is alot of negativity towards these men / women alot of it for no good or productive reason, live and let live. I'm glad that they have addressed this and going forward I hope that people will be more considerate of the fact that these influencers are in fact real people, who likely see all the things people write about them online.


    Sorry have you even seen the pictures???
    Photoshopping yourself 4 sizes smaller than what you are while promoting your #fitfam lifestyle and flogging your own brand turkey burgers and protein shakers, as well as tickets to your "lifestyle" workshop for €65 a piece is an absolute disgrace.

    It is morally and socially irresponsible to promote yourself to young, impressionable teenagers in that way, when it is all a lie.
    She altered herself to the point of her body being totally unrealistic, her proportions resembled a Bratz doll.
    Young women were using her "transformation" from this once plus size model to a teeny, tiny, petite barbie doll as inspiration for themselves. What kind of message does that send to those she is influencing about self worth and insecurity????

    There are HUGE issues in this country regarding eating disorders and mental health issues centered around appearance. She is a grown woman in her 30's and the message she is sending to her target audience of teenagers is downright negligent.

    It would be one thing if she actually did look like how he portrays herself online. She doesn't. There is nothing wrong with her real figure. Her real figure is tall, toned, muscular and in proportion. A world apart from the tiny little size 4 pixie she edits herself into.

    I don't feel sorry for her at all tbh, she brought all this on herself. People have brought it to her attention numerous times before via private message and she just blocked them and called them a hater.


  • #1024
    ace_irl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭ace_irl


    Another point I wanted to make was, that while they all went on this rant, did any of them actually share and statistics? or helplines for people? No one I follow bothered to. They have this amazing platform to actually spur change, and they had this amazing opportunity but they did nothing with it.


  • #1025
    Sunny Dayz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    ace_irl wrote: »
    Another point I wanted to make was, that while they all went on this rant, did any of them actually share and statistics? or helplines for people? No one I follow bothered to. They have this amazing platform to actually spur change, and they had this amazing opportunity but they did nothing with it.
    I thought this as well when I was trying to catch up on all the fuss yesterday, I only recall one blogger putting up a link for a helpline. So for all the talk from Sue et all of their "power to influence" to tackle bullies, they couldn't be bothered to post a helpline that might actually help someone other than themselves.


  • #1026
    ace_irl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭ace_irl


    It's extremely disappointing. Maybe if they all stopped talking about it, and actually did something things would be better.


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  • #1027
    Sunny Dayz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    It took a while to catch up on all the fuss over the weekend. I think from observing it all, it's really only a very small percentage of Irish bloggers who actually photoshop or overly edit their images.
    IMO many of the "top influencers" are really just advertising vessels - they would advertise their grandma for a few bob of #sp / #ad / #iworkwith...
    All people want is a bit of honesty and integrity. Don't tell us that your plump lips are down to lip liner and gloss, that your chest is due to push up bras and contour and that your completely flawless face is just down to a medium coverage foundation. Stop with the false advertising!


  • #1028
    ace_irl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭ace_irl


    I made a new thread with some helpful links for anyone who may need them.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105769300#post105769300


  • #1029
    lisasimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    There was one particular photo that took things oot for me. One of these bloggers on a beach.in real life if her waste was that tiny she would have caused damage to her internal organs


  • #1030
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    lisasimpson wrote: »
    There was one particular photo that took things oot for me. One of these bloggers on a beach.in real life if her waste was that tiny she would have caused damage to her internal organs

    Maybe a Mod can clarify whether we're allowed post them or not? They've been posted by a few media outlets so I don't see why it would be a problem but I don't want to cause any trouble.


  • #1031
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    ace_irl wrote: »
    Another point I wanted to make was, that while they all went on this rant, did any of them actually share and statistics? or helplines for people? No one I follow bothered to. They have this amazing platform to actually spur change, and they had this amazing opportunity but they did nothing with it.

    No. Because it's all pie in the sky. They don't actually want to help anyone but themselves. All of that was just a load of backtracking hogwash to make it sound like they're "all for the kids" when in actuality it was quite clear from the get go this was a very aggressive response by them in relation to posts about them and nobody nor any child on earth mattered as much as bloggers targeted with unflattering pics.


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  • #1032
    silvervixen84
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 6,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭silvervixen84


    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    Maybe a Mod can clarify whether we're allowed post them or not? They've been posted by a few media outlets so I don't see why it would be a problem but I don't want to cause any trouble.

    Mod: I've been following the whole debacle all weekend myself so what I'll do is open a new thread here just about the Instagram page and everything that stemmed from it (bullying accusations etc), and you can post the pictures in there.


  • #1033
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    silvervixen84 wrote: »
    Mod: I've been following the whole debacle all weekend myself so what I'll do is open a new thread here just about the Instagram page and everything that stemmed from it (bullying accusations etc), and you can post the pictures in there.

    Thanks @silvervixen.


  • #1034
    CallmeKeano
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭CallmeKeano


    XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »
    I'm inevitably going to word this wrong but hopefully, you'll get what I mean!

    What do you guys think of bloggers who include their friends and family in their posts? I don't mind the occasional mention or picture but some bloggers seem to have more posts/snaps relating to other people than to what their blog is meant to be about and I can feel quite uncomfortable about it. Is it not a bit too personal?

    I think they do this so that some followers will go and follow their family members, the kardishians do this all the time as they seem to pop up out of nowhere, but if you don't want a 9-5 job and your cousins Grandmother's best friend's daughter is an influencer well go and piggyback of her and if you are (female) attractive and willing to post with little or no clothes you will gain followers.


  • #1035
    Pinkycharm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Pinkycharm


    Is the other thread archived?


  • #1036
    Tinaken
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Tinaken


    Pinkycharm wrote: »
    Is the other thread archived?

    Wondering the same thing, missing my fix of blogger gossip 🙈


  • #1037
    Cutie 3.14
    Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Cutie 3.14


    Pinkycharm wrote: »
    Is the other thread archived?
    Tinaken wrote: »
    Wondering the same thing, missing my fix of blogger gossip 🙈

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bloggers/comments/8cgp7a/irishbloggerchat/


  • #1038
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Cutie 3.14 wrote: »
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bloggers/comments/8cgp7a/irishbloggerchat/

    sort by: new
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bloggers/comments/8cgp7a/irishbloggerchat/?sort=new

    the other forum https://www.reddit.com/r/ibloggerchat is private, but if you're a regular poster on the main thread, you might get access


  • #1039
    Tinaken
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Tinaken


    Brilliant! Thanks


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