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Last of the V8 Interceptors.. my XB Falcon Coupe

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Hi All, ok so I’ve been in a world of travel & other crap again, so whilst there has been some progress on this it is as usual not nearly as much as I would have liked….

    I’ve been finishing up the bottom of the passenger side inner wheel tub, I went for the easy option of making two separate patches & welding them in that the more complex option of making one multi-folded patch

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    Then it was time to flip the old girl over on her back again & finish off the driver’s side rear Qtr & inner wheel tub… I’m very happy with how this side has come up & even more so with the fact that I did it right & it’s metal, there is no bog of filler or chicken wire or fiberglass in this thing… it will a slight skim to get the finish perfect for paint but it’s one Qtr finished…

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    With the car upside down I also got to work on the upper sections where the door seals, there was some small rust in this area so lots of time send grinding that off or cutting it out & replacing where needed… another area done

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    I’ve also started work on the front drivers side torque box by cutting the old damaged & rusted one off.. I’ve been given the name of a company that make this as a repair section so I’m very happy to hear that I won’t have to cobble something together for this & I simply buy a professional repair section

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    There is still a lot of work to go into the passenger side Qtr till it’s right but I did manage to find a big piece of unicorn poop a few weeks ago at a price that was actually reasonable…. I present to you my NOS (yes that’s New Old Stock) never been on a car before rust & dent free passenger side Rear Qtr panel….

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    you lucky man!!! a NOS on a car of that vintage has to be up there with the winning lotto numbers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Right well all of efforts have really been focused on the Challenger now & the XB has been slid to the side of the shed as I’m a little bit over it right now, but I did decided that it would be a good idea to start looking at the hanging panels… so I put the doors up on some panel stands & had a bit if a look…

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    The passenger side door has some rust in the bottom section, it’s a fairly common spot for them to go so I was expecting to see this

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    The drivers side was just starting to go in the same spot & then also has a section of rust in the bottom rear corner… again nothing too hard to fix in the grand scheme of things.

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    Now the following pictures I can take zero credit for… I’ve been traveling for work for the last two weeks & I’ve simply not been home to get anything done in shed.. so Mrs XB took it upon herself to go out into the shed every night after work for 4 nights & do this……

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    Yes… you read that right I was off travelling for work enjoying fancy meals & drinking it up at the bar on the companies tab & my wife was out in the shed up to her armpits in paint stripper getting the two XB doors spotless for me to work on because she knows it’s frustrating me to be away & falling behind on the car work…

    Next up will be stripping back the two bonnets…


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Fair play to Mrs XB!

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    I hope you buy your wife the best Christmas present ever in the history of mankind, she deserves it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    I hope you buy your wife the best Christmas present ever in the history of mankind, she deserves it!

    More sandpaper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I decided to do a bit more paint stripping on the XB this week…. I started with the spare bonnet I have, I plan to have two bonnets for this car.. my stock unmolested one that came off the car & a second one with a reverse hood scoop on it like they raced with in the 70’s. As this bonnet already has a dodgy hole cut in it I’m hoping it can be saved to use as my scooped bonnet option.

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    The worst bit that can be seen with the paint still on is in the lower corner here, not too bad in the grand scheme of things

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    So I started the slow messy process of taking the bonnet back to bare metal to see what horrors lay hidden underneath, as I always say you can’t polish a turd but you can bog & paint one

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    So the passenger side half wasn’t too bad, but there was a lot of bog towards the front, I suspect that this panel had a mild knock at the front & little to no effort was made to beat the panel straight

    With the panel back to shiny metal it’s in pretty good shape

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    I was right about the front mind you, you can see where a truly halfarsed attempt was made to beat the panel & in the end it seems that a 5mm coat of bog was seen as the better fix, but again this probably was done in the 80’s when these cars where only worth a few hundred dollars & no one would have spent the cash or the time to fix it properly back then

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    Now the bonnet sits in what looks like a state of shock awaiting repairs, well actually I need to flip it over & strip back the underside next…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next up was the roof… I have heard horror stories of people warping the roof when stripping the paint off depending on the method they used, it’s such a large panel with little to no rigidity that it’s very easy to overheat the panel in the process & cause it to warp.. so blasting was out, I also didn’t want to attack it with the grinder like I had the bonnet… so it was going to be the hard way, lots of elbow grease & chemical paint stripper.. but again working in very small areas & allowing breaks in between to prevent any heat buildup… it took multiple passes to get it done… apply & let it blister up

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    Then use a scraper to remove the paint

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    The hi-fill & primer wasn’t coming off after the first application so that often needed a second & in some cases third go

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    It took a while but the panel underneath is looking beautiful

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    I ran out of the original tin of stripper I had & I ended up having to change brands… the new one was evil… it actually made the paint run off the panel like blood after 5 mins… no wonder the bonnet above looked so shocked..

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    This new stuff that I have renamed Agent Orange is definitely the way to go, in the same time it took to get the progress show in the first 4 pics here I did this

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    There is still a tiny bit of hi-fill left on the lower section but that’s because it was getting late & I need to call it quits, it’ll only take 5 mins to finish this when I get out to the shed next

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I decided that for a change of pace I’d test fit the fancy new multi-link coilover rear end I have for the XB… so I unpacked all the boxes & laid all the bits out on the floor, whilst the HW is top quality everyone has warned me that the installation instructions are poor… well that’s an understatement, the instructions are for the Mustang install that uses totally different brackets in different locations… so this will have to be figured out on the fly as I go.

     

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    Right so somehow all of that bolts up into here

     

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    Oh well with the diff as well obviously

     

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    Now whilst the front section should be super simple working out the multi-link rear end with no real instructions has the potential to be fun… now see that loan bracket in the middle here

     

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    Yeah this one..

     

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    Well turns out that’s the adjustable bottom bracket for the coilover & it attaches to the diff bracket like so  

     

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    Well turns out they only shipped me one & not two… so that ended play early tonight, I’ll have to get onto them tomorrow to get a replacement… the top coilover mounting bracket bolts into the hole for the factory shocks

     

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    However the middle set of bolt holes don’t line up with the factory holes in the floor pan, you can see they are behind the edge of the bracket here… due to the crap build quality of these old cars I fully expect that the bracket was perfect on the test car they used in product development…  so I either need to massage the floor to get the bracket lined up or I might just weld the bracket in fully for additional strength

     

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    The Mumford link bracket (it’s similar to a Watt’s link) seems to fit up fine, I’m now in two minds on how to install this stuff, it’s all setup for bolt in & out so you can return a car to stock…. But with 700HP (or more importantly the huge torque figure) at the pointy end I’m starting to think that I might weld all this kit in to be sure nothing moves or breaks loose   

     

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    Excuse the poor quality pics, it was late & the lights on that side of the shed are less than ideal.. I’ll get some better shots in the daylight when I continue the test fit install this week.

     


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Daved_XB wrote: »
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    If the car doesn’t work out, you can use that to begin a Giant Cyberman project!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Welding definitely sounds like a good plan with all that extra grunt going through things.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to take pictures and post them here for us who are following the thread to enjoy. Along with your witty comments, it's a real joy watching the progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to take pictures and post them here for us who are following the thread to enjoy. Along with your witty comments, it's a real joy watching the progress.

    I have to second this, its a pleasure seeing this thread coming to the top again. Its one of the few threads I have bookmarked in the whole site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭biketard


    I have to second this, its a pleasure seeing this thread coming to the top again. Its one of the few threads I have bookmarked in the whole site

    Thirded! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Tonight’s task was to fit all the parts of the multi link rear end that needed to go on the diff… so step one was to scrub years of dirt & grease off it so I wouldn’t get filthy playing with it

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    As I’d said above the instructions where pretty useless, so I wasn’t sure if I needed to remove the tramp rob brackets off my diff… the tramp rods won’t be needed with the Mumford Link rear end anyway… turns out yes was the answer, with that bracket still on the diff the U-Bolts are kicked way off to the side

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    Now, I’d always figured that these brackets are welded to the diff tubes.. turns out it was only years of dirt & crap holding them on once the U-Bolts that hold the leaf springs are removed

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    The old U-Bolts where way too long as they had to clamp the springs too, so I had to go shopping for some new shorter ones, with them in hand I installed the brackets that would take the Mumford Link arm & the bottom of the coil over

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next up was to install what they call the Torque Tube… it’s job is to connect the face of the Diff to a bracket that is at the end of the gearbox.. the idea is that the diff cannot twist at all under the torque load..

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    So first up I needed to add the extended bolts onto the diff face

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    I’d also have to remove the pinion snub cover

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    Now with this Torque Tube bolted on it just looks plan mad… looks like something that should be mounted to the roof of a Humvee

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    Yes, that’s Mr’s XB in the background there… stripping the paint off the Challenger’s boot lid… bless her little heart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next up it was time to drill holes in the boot section that I’ve spent months getting right… so the section of the Mumford Link that mounts to the rear was first up… now the section that runs front to rear with the body work is nice & simple to bolt up, drill the 3 holes & bolt up the bracket

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    But the section that runs left right at the back with 4 holes was a slightly different story

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    The final hole in tight in the corner is going to be fun to get a bolt into…

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    Yep as I feared.. no way that bracket will fit… guess I’ll have to modify that to make it fit

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    I wasn’t bothered doing that tonight as it had gotten late, so I took an angle grinder my bonnets rusted section instead

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    I have another bonnet at a mate house, so I guess I’ll go grab that this weekend & workout if I can use sections of it to patch this one… stay tuned


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    biketard wrote: »
    Thirded! :)

    Thanks guys for the kind words... truth is I really enjoy documenting the build process here... but it is nice to know that other are enjoying it too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I still haven’t decided exactly how I’m going to solve the bracket issue, but for now I just used some shorter ones that I had in the shed that I could drill to take 3 of the bolts so that I can test fit this RRS multi-link rear end (called a Mumford Link if you want to google that)

     

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    Next was to install the new lower control arms

     

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    Then it was the bracket that will hold the Coil-overs, it bolts into the mounting holes for the original diff bump stop & where the original shocks mounted into the body

     

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    Then I fitted the crazy looking link arms into the big Mumford bracket

     

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    You can see now that the brackets on the diff will be located by the lower control arm for up/down movement & by the arm of the Mumford link for left/right movement

     

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    Now the more observant of you will have noticed that the car is currently sitting side ways… now I’m not sure if you have ever felt the weight of a Ford 9” Diff with a 5 foot torque tube attached… but they are heavy… so I had to think outside of the box on how to install this, I opted for my engine hoist

     

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    That allowed me to swing the diff in & connect it to the two lower control arms

     

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next up was to connect the arms of the Mumford link to the diff

     

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    Now I only have one coil-over bracket for the two diff brackets, so I could only install one Coil-over right now

     

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    So that’s the rear end in then I guess..

     

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    Now the links have a LOT of adjustments that can be made, but I can’t do any one that until the car is right way up & the diff is at the ride height I want… so for now here’s a look at the 3 links of the Mumford link

     

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    Then I fitted the front bracket to the end of the Torque tube

     

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    I’m not drilling & mounting this big bracket until I have the diff set up exactly where I want it, I don’t want to get the placement of this bracket wrong… now sorry for the poor lighting but it was late by the time I’d finished… but this is what the new rear suspension of the XB looks like

     

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    More hanging panel prep work needs to be done, I plan on having two bonnets for this car, one fully stock & one with the reverse racing hood scoop… so you’ve seen the work started on the bonnet for the scoop that already has the hole cut in it, next task for Mr’s XB was to strip back the original non molested bonnet that was on the car to start with

     

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    Was very happy to see that this bonnet looks as good without the paint as it did with the paint.. Now I can’t remember if I told you, but a friend took my passenger side guard to his work place to have it blasted for me, sadly it seems to have gone missing… to say that I’m unhappy is of course a massive understatement.. luckily I was able to find one no more than 10 minutes away to use.. it’s pretty good, a few small bits that need work

     

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Next job on the list was to repair the drivers side front torque box section…. Here is a pic of the good passenger side torque box, just so you can get an idea of what it’s supposed to look like

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    I had to cut the drivers one off as it was rusting badly

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    Lucky for me (well not just me for all Ford Coupe owners really), there is a guy here to makes replacement panels for this section & they are great reproductions.. same thick gauge metal & all the bends & folds in the right spots

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    It’s a great fit too… didn’t take long at all to weld this piece of humpty back in

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    Next job will be to make a new parcel shelf I think, I have to fab that bit from a combination of original metal from 2 different cars & some new replacement panels… so should be fun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    The task over the next couple of days is to do the last of the structural work on the XB… I need to rebuild the parcel shelf section, including the bracing that joins the shelf to the boot floor (this is the bit the rear seat rests against) & of course the panel that suits under the rear window between the boot lid & the rear glass… This is very much a Mad Max movie moment as this is being built with a piece from here & a piece from there…. I’ll be using parts from 2 XB Coupes, An XB Sedan & some new rust repair panels… to make the whole section

    I bought a good rust free & unmolested rear parcel shelf out of a 4 door XB Sedan, now this won’t fit a Coupe at all…. But the middle section with the speakers holes is the same & with this one the speaker holes have not been butchered to take larger speakers over the years

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    The first step was to cut off all of that Sedan donor shelf that I don’t need & can’t use…. This bit goes in the bin

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    This bit I keep

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    Hmmmm….. looks like that new rust repair section I bought had no protection on it at all… guess I’m cleaning this back to bare metal & coating in rust treatment & primer tonight

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    Now the sides of the parcel shelf that join the speaker section above to the fat wide rear Qtrs of a Coupe are very different to the Sedans & no one makes a rust repair section yet… so I have to unpick them out of the spare XB rear end I currently have (you can see the piss poor repair done to this parcel shelf on the donor section)

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    It might be a bit easier to see how this panel with its integrated drain channel fits in if I put it in the back of my XB with no other panels in place

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    This is how the cut up Sedan section & the new rear repair section join up… you can see the 3 x seat belt mounting points on the Sedan section, they get cut off as the seat belt mountings for the Coupe are in the end panels above as you can see in the pics above

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    And now with the side section in place

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    Now with the rust repair sections cleaned up, rust treated & primed for use

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Now to start assembling this jigsaw into the XB as a complete rear parcel shelf… this is a very happy day in the Skunk Works as this is the last of the structural welding & fabrication that needs to be done. Once this piece is in it’s officially a complete XB shell again, there is still some stitch welding of certain spots to add more strength etc… but as far as missing bits of car go this is it.

     

    Started by clamping in the edge drain sections & the main shelf that houses the speakers inside the car

     

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    Then the new rust repair rear section that goes under the rear window & into the boot area

     

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    Then the rear window panel itself & the vertical section that joins the lower rear section to this rear window panel

     

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    Then the boot hinge/support sections go in

     

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Then it was out with the welder & start welding this whole jigsaw together

     

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    Then the diagonal rear seat braces go in  

     

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    THAT’S IT!!! We are done with the structural welding (yes there is still more to be done, but nothing structural)… this ****ing piece of poo is now a full solid complete shell again… I cannot even begin to put into words how this feels, it’s been 2 years of hard slog, having no real idea of what I was doing,  learning as I went with a sort of dumb I won’t be beaten mindset… I’ve had great support & help from my panel beater mate (the brains of this operation) & of course from Mrs XB herself…. Now I won’t lie.. I stood back in the shed last night with a beer in hand looking at this & I had to fight back a tear or two, there have been many days during this project that I really felt that this day would never come… I feel so good right now, I’m even allowing myself to mentally picture this thing is full colour painted up waiting for me to install all the running gear… now to start looking for a good painter

     

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    I was just starting to strip back the boot lid now this morning, but the weather has beaten it… it’s 10am Sat morning & it’s 35 degrees already & the high for today is 43 & as I have no A/C in the shed (make mental note, add A/C to the shed) it’ll get over 50 in the shed soon, so I have retreated to the comfort of the house that has A/C…. I’ll finish the boot tomorrow

     

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I bloody love this build and the other. :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Ok… so a quick pop quiz… what’s the first thing that you do the very next day after you’ve worked for months on end to get your XB Coupe back into a complete structurally sound shell again?

    If you answered “you cut off a rear Qtr panel again” then congratulations you win a bin bag full of genuine XB rust (Phone lines are now closed)

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    Now I apologise if anyone just spat tea all over their screen shouting “you ****ing muppet” at me… but let me explain my logic (or insanity, you choose)… this passenger side Qtr is never going to be right… just look at the amount of repair patch sections that are in it… with the best will in the world & even with days of work it is always going to need a good few mm of bog to ever ever look the right shape

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    Now you may remember a few posts back that I had sold my kidney when I found a genuine NOS Qtr panel, well I’ve decided that the right thing to do by the car is to do this job correctly (or as close to it as someone as halfarsed as me can get it)… so a tough decision was made, but I just felt that I would have always regretted it if I hadn’t done it… & as the car was structurally complete it’s a very simple swap as none of the other parts of the car are flexing or moving at all

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    This bit of the car at least will look right when I’m done & I’ll know that its bog free & straight underneath the paint


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    On a build this well done and having a NOS unicorn panel you had only one choice really. Fair play and it'll look and be better.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    This is the sort of rust protection stuff I’ve been doing… so the section behind the rear Qtr panel has been wire brushed back to bare metal & then chemically rust treated before being etch primed

     

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    The window winder mechanism has been cleaned up & lubed up too

     

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    Then I used a top coating which is a thick sound deadener & rust preventative paint to completely covet the inside… you know to be sure to be sure

     

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    The NOS Qtr panel goes on tomorrow & then the car will be a complete finished structural shell… again.. hopefully for longer than a day this time…  

     

     


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭biketard


    Fantastic! Congratulations on getting the shell back to where it should be (I mean, before you cut the quarter panel out again, but you know what I mean).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭bluferbl


    "Halfarsed" - a new level for me to aim at! :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Ok… uber quick update, so my madness has been rewarded…. Please behold my complete 1975 Ford Falcon GS Coupe body shell!! The NOS panel looks a million dollars (as you would expect). The pics don’t show it as well as it looks in the metal but the Coke bottle wave curve in the Qtr Panel & the door are lining up so well & they just look so so sexy…. Or at least to me the fat arse lines of the XB Coupe look sexy…

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    She is a beauty. :) Love the lines and for me coupes are my fave car shape/layout of all.

    Lucky where you are too. In Ireland it would have flashed a rusty red in seconds. :eek:

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Lead wiping of the panel joins has begun on the XB now… the Qtr to Roof join

     

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    Also the inner door jam join

     

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    Now I don’t expect any of you to have noticed but the Sill panel is for a Sedan & so there was a recess here for the B pillar base to join the Sill, I’ve lead loaded this with lead too

     

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    Work has also started on stripping the engine bay clean so I can weld up any non-factory holes that have been added over the years & get it ready for paint.

     

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Stripping back the engine bay continues & is a long slow dirty process, but it has to be done… no corners can be cut with the metal prep for painting or it will show when it’s finished. The difference between a good paint job & a great paint job is all in the prep. Excuse the poor lighting but work only happens in the shed at nights on weekdays

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    The Plenum area under the front window is perfect, I’m so blessed here… it’s a known problem area for these cars & I had expected to find some rust but nothing to report

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    I’ve also taken the build tags off too… storing these somewhere safe for now… here in Aus the tags for a good spec car are worth thousands as folks use them to reshell say a 6 cylinder Falcon 500 shell into a full GS Fairmont like mine to double the cars worth.. I think I’ll spend some time & effort to clean these up & make them shiny again so that when they go back on they look good

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    I had cleaned most of the underside off already, but hadn’t tackled the really hard to reach areas but that’s not a job that can be put off any longer now… this is not a fun job I can tell you, rewarding when you stand back & look at all the shiny metal but not fun

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Daved_XB wrote: »
    I’ve also taken the build tags off too… storing these somewhere safe for now… here in Aus the tags for a good spec car are worth thousands as folks use them to reshell say a 6 cylinder Falcon 500 shell into a full GS Fairmont like mine to double the cars worth.. I think I’ll spend some time & effort to clean these up & make them shiny again so that when they go back on they look good

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    That hits the spot D.

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    All in the details. These cars and your build story are fantastic reading. TBH D it's informative and genuinely humbling for this weekend petrolhead to observe your skills and perseverance.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Thanks man, Any skills I have I learned on the job.... anyone can do it, just need to decide to start


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    This is one of those updates where it probably looks like nothing has been done, but in fact several long hours have been spent…. Cleaning of the front end continues unabated & I’m happy to report that there is no evil rust being found anyway as we clean this up… there are a few (read a lot) of little holes in the engine bay where people have attached things with self-tapper screws over the years & I reckon I’ll weld them up so that there isn’t a Swiss cheese effect once its painted

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    If you cast your minds back to what seems like a long time ago now, you may remember that the bottom of the front cross member was badly damaged… well I’ve reconstructed that section & it’s back on now looking very square again

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    The last section of boot channel that needed be fabricated & fitted has gone on

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    Now this little bit of metal in the far right bottom corner of the rear window opening may not look like much & in fact on its own it isn’t… it’s 3 inch long slightly curved piece of metal that has been welded in to finish off that window lip… BUT in the bigger scheme of things this may well prove to be the final piece of new metal that ever needs welding into this car… unless I find something I’m not expecting whilst finishing up the cleaning of the front I think that we are done with the welding bits of metal on this car… I will probably add some extra spots or stitch welds to the torque effected areas for additional strength but this is the end of making repair sections to be welded in/on… another big milestone reached

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    I’ve removed the battery tray from the engine bay, there will be a lot of catch cans & other such stuff needing to live up here so I’m relocating the battery to the boot to make some more space & to tidy up the engine bay a bit. Plus over the year leaking battery juice has damaged this section, so off it came

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    No real damage behind it, it’ll clean up nicely

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Lead wiping the Roof to Qtr panel seam.. coming up nice

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    I’ve also decided to wipe & fill all the factory panel gaps on the rear, like the join between the Qtr & the panel that crosses under the rear window

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    Also the gap where the Qtr joins the sill panel

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    I think that it will look cleaner (& different) than the stock gap join looks

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    I’ve also lead wiped the join of the inner door jam & the qtr

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    Been working on getting the door & the Qtr lines to all run perfect (or as close as I can get them) sadly there is a need for bog, but when it’s sanded down it’s a skim of less than 1mm thick & I don’t know of any restored car that ended up with metal so perfect it didn’t need a light skim (unless 7 digits where spent on it)

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    God this sanding back process is a messy & thankless task… there will be many more hours spent on this now…. But the light at the end of the tunnel is in sight… I can see this thing being in hi-fill & ready to go to paint this month if I’m lucky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Haven’t updated this in a while… but I did finish off the passenger side door & Qtr panel of the XB to a high fill level to be sure that lines are right… I think it came out well

    The process involves a lot of spraying light black paint over the primer so that when you are block sanding off you can see the high spots & the lows

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    By now the shed has been getting way to dirty for my liking with grinding dust & sanding dust covering everything…. So I decided that enough was enough & emptied the whole thing out for a clean… so the XB had a quick spin into the open to be cleaned off using the air compressor

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    Then I started (with the help of Mrs XB of course) to pull everything & I mean every single thing out of the shed….

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    Every inch of the shed was then cleaned & washed & every item was cleaned before being stacked back inside again… this took an entire 3 day long weekend to do…. This was so so worth it, I found parts I forgot I had, tools I’d lost etc ect… plus it’s just so nice to be in a clean shed where you can pick stuff up without getting filthy… it’s not quite up to Ron Dennis standards… but it’s good enough for me

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    Another reason for doing this is that my new Camaro will be arriving sometime around the end of March all things being considered so I needed to be sure I’d have the space to put it in the shed with the rest of the family.

    I’ve taken a few weeks off doing any work on the cars now as it had been becoming all consuming & it was starting to feel like a chore & not be enjoyable at all…. So now I feel a renewed energy to get back into it… I have some maintenance on the GTO I’d been putting off until the hoist was free so I’ll have to crack into that on the weekend & then get back into operation restoration..


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    I have serious, serious shed envy.. Thanks for the update :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    I’ve had a custom long range drop tank (160ltrs) sitting around for the XB for a while now & I’d been wondering what fuel pump set up to use, today I unboxed my Aeromotive stealth kit…. It’s a very neat setup designed to fit almost any fuel tank & is designed to be able to feed a 950HP NA Carb engine, I’ve only a meager 700 so this should be fine for me..

    First things first mind you, the tank had a protective covering on it which peeled off easily but the there was also some masking tape on it & wow this stuff does not want to come off..

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    Any ideas? last resort will be a scraper as that will scratch the polished aluminum of the tank sadly.. I’ve bought some can of stuff called goo off & I’ll see how soaking it in that helps…

    Once I have that tape off I’ll be able to cut a hole in the top of the tank & lower the sponge swirl pot tank (for want of a better description) in.. my tank is almost too tall to take this kit but it just fits

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    The sponge houses the pump within it & the design is such that it holds the fuel in the pot even when it is fully drained away due to cornering (there are some good clips of it working on YouTube if you’re so inclined)

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    The kit is pretty comprehensive & comes with everything needed except he actual fuel line they do sell it but I didn’t see the point in paying for shipping from the US for something that I can get here easily

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    SO if I can get that bloody tape off then this will be one of the weekends jobs, installing this in the tank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭biketard


    Nice!

    I'm sure the goo off will do the trick, but if not WD40 or lighter fluid (naptha) both work well. You more you soak it, the easier it'll be (might have to do two or three passes if it's really, really dried in). You really shouldn't have to scrape it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Acetone another option. You can get bottles of it cheap in pharmacies as nail polish remover.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    I have serious, serious shed envy.. Thanks for the update :)

    I'm really happy you posted here again, I've some one coming to the house next week to look at putting up a shed for working on cars and he wanted me to figure out what size I want. -- Can I ask what the L x B X H of your shed is please?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Daved_XB


    The shed is 14.5m wide & 10m deep... the height at the low point which is the top of the front hanger doors is 3.5m & the apex height is a little over 4.5m


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